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How to switch off Treo Pro???

I have been using my Treo Pro for a couple of months now and have not managed to simply switch it off!?!
When I press the "power" button on the top shortly the screen goes off and when I press it longer only the phone function goes off.
To switch it off completely I need to take out the battery.
Is this a bug or a feature???? Anyway it annoys me...
Cheers
fredw_de

fredw_de said:
I have been using my Treo Pro for a couple of months now and have not managed to simply switch it off!?!
When I press the "power" button on the top shortly the screen goes off and when I press it longer only the phone function goes off.
To switch it off completely I need to take out the battery.
Is this a bug or a feature???? Anyway it annoys me...
Cheers
fredw_de
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Yes there is no off, holding the top button is only radio on and off e.g flight mode, thats how it was designed?, great isn't it!!!!

Reset instead of "off"
Yeah, I was a bit concerned about not being able to turn off my Treo completely either. The only way to reset it was to remove the back cover and press the reset button on the back lower left side of the phone. But taking the back cover off over repeatedly - which is somewhat of a pain to do as you may have noticed - could possibly lead to the widely reported cracks in the phone. However, if you remove the stylus and look in the small opening there, you can see the reset button! I unfolded a paper clip and was able to reach the reset button without any difficulty. I've tried to do this with the stylus itself, but I feel it's just slightly too thick to get in there properly without bumping into the rear cover. Windows Mobile tends to need a soft reset every now & then to keep things running smoothly, so hopefully this helps you.

It should also be noted that whenever you do a Sprite backup it will actually restart the phone before and after the backup.
I just do a weekly Sprite backup and haven't had to do a soft reset at all yet.

There is no Treo as far as I know of that had the ability to turn off completely. Probably because they thought that flight modus was enough
To soft reset device is advised to install a small app rather than to take the back cover off every time. This is absolulty the most stupid place to put the reset button. If I take off the cover you might as well pull out the battery instead

I have this POS also! I noticed this inability to power the phone off as well. I was able to power mine off by holding down the top power button then afterwards I held the red end button down untill it turned off. Seems to work, correct me if i'm wrong. I put my treo pro back in the box because i'm selling it asap! This phone has a very nice look and feel but I hate the tiny cramped keyboard and the display is very dull and faded looking. My two biggest gripes which is more than enough for for to deactivate it and go back to one of my other phones... like the touch pro i'm using to type this post. Fare well Palm Treo Pro!

Dull and faded screen?
To each his own I guess. My screen is sharp and so bright I had to crank it way down.
It's weird that you can't simply turn it all the way off. But that does not bother me too much. I want my phone on all the time.
The keyboard is small.....but very usable...IMHO.
I think it's near perfect in size and functionality. The Pre looks sweet but I will be in no hurry to switch over.....I can wait.

I would strongly disagree about the screen being dull and dark, that is crazy to me.
The only time I really ever want or need to shut my phone off is if it about to die and I want to shut my phone off in case I need it in an emergency to make a call. Not being able to do that has been incredibly inconvenient quite often lately. After a heavy day of usage my phone can die now by 7-8pm sometimes earlier. I had to go out and buy an i-go portable charger.

fungflex said:
I would strongly disagree about the screen being dull and dark, that is crazy to me...
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Same here.. ..I seemed that PocketNow received a Pro for a review suffering the same problems.
Can't complain on the screen on my Treo Pro! (It's not as colorful as my Nokia E71, but still good enough..

Power Off
waynebam said:
Yes there is no off, holding the top button is only radio on and off e.g flight mode, thats how it was designed?, great isn't it!!!!
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Yes there is an Off for the Palm Treo
Pull the Battery
While holding the Top power button, Red Button & Green Button all at the same time, Put it back in this is put it into i think its called a Sleep Mode....
Hope this helps

pjogorman said:
Yes there is an Off for the Palm Treo
Pull the Battery
While holding the Top power button, Red Button & Green Button all at the same time, Put it back in this is put it into i think its called a Sleep Mode....
Hope this helps
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hahaha, the only thing left to do is find a third hand ;P

isnt there a poweroffwarning.exe in the windows folder , i know a link to that can turn off my diamond ?

In order to shutdown any Windows at the bottom level there is a call to a function called ExitWindowsEx, which in Windows Mobile 6 the flag EWX_POWEROFF isn't supported.
So in fact the problem of shutting down Treo isn't a problem specific of the device, but with the OS itself. So any Windows Mobile 6 based device will not power off, unless you take out the battery.

PJonDevelopment said:
In order to shutdown any Windows at the bottom level there is a call to a function called ExitWindowsEx, which in Windows Mobile 6 the flag EWX_POWEROFF isn't supported.
So in fact the problem of shutting down Treo isn't a problem specific of the device, but with the OS itself. So any Windows Mobile 6 based device will not power off, unless you take out the battery.
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This explains the whole thing !!!
Apparently I have seen my HTC touch shutdown totally with the power button. This I believe is a "feature" with HTC phones. Since TP is actually HTC Panther, wonder if we can implement this...I will try and get an app around this and see what happens.

Go into the comm's menu and turn the phone off. Then lock it by hitting the red button once and hit the button at the top of the phone, left side of top.
Done.

You can turn off a treo pro by doing soft-reset and quickly holding the red, green, and top power buttons simultaneously for 3 seconds. You can also remove and insert the battery and quickly hold those 3 buttons for 3 seconds. You turn it on by pressing the top power button.

OK, it does turn the treo pro off, but I can only turn it on by removing and putting back the battery.

kashifsiddique said:
You can turn off a treo pro by doing soft-reset and quickly holding the red, green, and top power buttons simultaneously for 3 seconds. You can also remove and insert the battery and quickly hold those 3 buttons for 3 seconds. You turn it on by pressing the top power button.
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[hack] broken power button "fix" - remap genius

UPDATE: This remapping allows the Genius button to "act" like the power on button while your phone is on. Having trouble getting it to actually turn the phone on. Any thoughts?
Dead or dying power button on you MT4G? Mine was dying suddenly and i didn't want the hassle and risk a warranty exchange and get a phone with a bad eMMC chip or screen. Also didn't want to pay $100 to get the power button replaced.
Using the guide found below, I just remapped my Genius/search button in hopes it will become a power button (UPDATE: as of right now, it can only act to shut off the screen and to power down the phone--powering on the phone via the remapped button doesn't work yet.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836702
The only difference: by key 183, replace FUNC_4 with POWER (all caps).

like when you press the genius button, it turns the actual phone on/off...or just the screen on/off? if it turns the phone itself on/off, thats pretty cool as my power button was getting a bit unresponsive also. you could also use the trackpad to wake up the device(not sure if all roms have this feature tho). but either way Ive never thought of this little mod, reps to you

I've tried remapping Genius and Camera (I know, potentially lose a factory reset option), NEITHER of these will act to power on the phone. They'll power it down and shut the screen off, but they won't wake up an off phone.
Could it be that the power button is the only button capable of turning the phone on (based on hardware wiring and $hit?).
I've tried swapping Genius and Home buttons...they work perfectly EXCEPT for as a way to power the phone on.
I've also read that you can power up the phone by plugging it in and holding down the home button. That doesn't seem to work for me.
There must be some other code that would make this work...

Thank you for this. With the TPU case holding the power button to power off the phone is a little strange. Cant tell if im pressing the button too hard or not. I do not want to press it harder than I need to cause I know how fragile they can be. Now I dont have to worry about it!

Getting a replacement
The remapping POWER is surely helpful to some...and prevents wear on the pitiful power button.
But with no clear, definitive way to turn my phone on, should the power button completely die (which seems like it will this weekend...it's worse each time), I'd be f*cked.
I did the web customer chat with T-Mobile to get a replacement. They offered me a Samsung Galaxy S. I declined that, saying I want a MT4G or better. They responded that the MT4G is out of stock and they don't know when, if ever, if will be available. This waste of time was about an hour.
So I CALLED customer service, explained the situation, the rep looked in their systems and talked with a manager and said they have *limited* stock of MT4G. My guess is that when something is *limited* they can't give it out as an exchange. Anyhow, this rep put in the order, making sure they had the MT4G in stock, and wondered why the web chat people said they were on back order. This CS experience took about 15 minutes.
Should have a replacement MT4G next week--hopefully good screen, good chip and good power button.
This is only my second exchange.

ANY changes to the power button behavior in the ROM are in effect only when the ROM is up and running.
You can't do ANYTHING to make the phone turn on using another button when it's off, without reworking the HW.

Focus is dying, what could it be?

i suspect the power/lock button is FUBAR, but there are some other symptoms that do not resemble just a bad power/lock button. here are the symptoms that indicate it is the power/lock button:
1. when the phone is off, almost impossible to turn on. sometimes have to press and hold power button 10-12 times before it will shut on
2. when the phone is on and i press the lock button to lock the phone, most of the time it thinks i held the button and says "slide down to power off" although sometimes it doesn't respond at all. it almost NEVER locks when i press it (like it should be doing)
3. when the phone is on and i press the lock button to unlock the phone, most of the time it shuts off completely and i go back to step 1
symptom that indicates another problem not related to power/lock button:
1. if the phone is off and i press the power button, when the phone responds it will sometimes say "samsung" like it is turning on, and then nothing else will happen. i won't get the ATT screen and it won't boot up. this some times happens multiple times before the phone finally boots
currently i've been letting the phone time out automatically instead of the lock button, and using the camera button to unlock it. i've also been trying to not let it turn off at all, because getting it back on is really tough.
is there anyway i can disable the lock/power button...and/or is there an alternative way to lock and turn on your phone that doesn't require the use of that button? even if i tell myself not to use it, there are still times in your pocket where the darn thing gets pressed. for me that could mean it kills my phone and doesn't restart for the rest of the day, which i'm sure you can imagine is not ideal.

tuffluck said:
i suspect the power/lock button is FUBAR, but there are some other symptoms that do not resemble just a bad power/lock button. here are the symptoms that indicate it is the power/lock button:
1. when the phone is off, almost impossible to turn on. sometimes have to press and hold power button 10-12 times before it will shut on
2. when the phone is on and i press the lock button to lock the phone, most of the time it thinks i held the button and says "slide down to power off" although sometimes it doesn't respond at all. it almost NEVER locks when i press it (like it should be doing)
3. when the phone is on and i press the lock button to unlock the phone, most of the time it shuts off completely and i go back to step 1
symptom that indicates another problem not related to power/lock button:
1. if the phone is off and i press the power button, when the phone responds it will sometimes say "samsung" like it is turning on, and then nothing else will happen. i won't get the ATT screen and it won't boot up. this some times happens multiple times before the phone finally boots
currently i've been letting the phone time out automatically instead of the lock button, and using the camera button to unlock it. i've also been trying to not let it turn off at all, because getting it back on is really tough.
is there anyway i can disable the lock/power button...and/or is there an alternative way to lock and turn on your phone that doesn't require the use of that button? even if i tell myself not to use it, there are still times in your pocket where the darn thing gets pressed. for me that could mean it kills my phone and doesn't restart for the rest of the day, which i'm sure you can imagine is not ideal.
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You seem to have a (hardware) problem with the power button (obviously).
There are a couple of ways to turn on the phone/display without the power button:
- camera/back
- connect power charger
- usb connect
Last 2 are not practical and first you already do. You should try and see how much would it cost to replace the power button, if you're out of warranty. Should be cheap, and beats workarounds.

is there any way to lock it rather than letting it just time out? what about turning it on?
do you feel pretty confident that the seemingly unrelated symptom where the "samsung" screen comes up and then shuts off while trying to turn the phone on STILL indicates the button is broken? just worried this problem extends further than just the button.
thanks for your help.

tuffluck said:
is there any way to lock it rather than letting it just time out? what about turning it on?
do you feel pretty confident that the seemingly unrelated symptom where the "samsung" screen comes up and then shuts off while trying to turn the phone on STILL indicates the button is broken? just worried this problem extends further than just the button.
thanks for your help.
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There's no other way to turn it on (except plugging it to charge) and you found the one workaround, with the camera.
I am *very* sure that the power button is the culprit in your case, most likely the spring that pops back the button is either broken or out of place.
If you keep the power button pressed, in 2 seconds you'll see the slide message, but if you keep it pressed, then it just turns off after 2 more seconds. So, yes, it's the power button and nothing else, in your case.
Fix that and you should be back to normal.
And you're not the only one with this problem. Recently, I've tried to help someone else here, with the same problem, as you can see here.

thanks. i called around and a guy here in town said it will take him 30 minutes for $30 to fix it. i'm taking it to him at lunch, so hopefully i'll come back with a fully functional phone--he also was pretty certain it was the power button, and had seen this before. thanks for your help.

well it wasn't the power button. apparently there is a battery connected to the power button that is dying. but you can't even order a new battery, so pretty much once it's dead, it's dead for good and you have to do the camera button workaround like i was doing.
though he did solder the battery to the board a little more (that's another problem, from the factory it is soldered to the main board so even if you could replace it, you'd likely damage the board), and it seemed to fix the problem. he claimed it would only be temporary and within a few weeks the problem will likely come back.

tuffluck said:
well it wasn't the power button. apparently there is a battery connected to the power button that is dying. but you can't even order a new battery, so pretty much once it's dead, it's dead for good and you have to do the camera button workaround like i was doing.
though he did solder the battery to the board a little more (that's another problem, from the factory it is soldered to the main board so even if you could replace it, you'd likely damage the board), and it seemed to fix the problem. he claimed it would only be temporary and within a few weeks the problem will likely come back.
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That is weird indeed. I don't think I ever heard of another type of battery being used in phones, tied to buttons. Unless it's a capacitor but anyways...
Thanks for sharing the info with us!

I know this is thread is almost a year old, but unfortunately, it seems my Samsung Focus (v1.3) also has the exact same issue.
The worst bit is that every other aspect of this once glorious phone still works and I was very happy using it, not really feeling the need to upgrade.
I was using a custom ROM which I flashed back to AT&T original 7004 but that did not work. It doesn't seem to be a software issue at all.
The symptoms are the same - tapping the power button to lock the phone gives you the option to slide to power-off and after a second it will do that anyway (without any interaction). When you try to boot, it won't progress past the SAMSUNG screen and in the rare chance it does boot, it will work for an hour or two before dying again. Connecting power helps a little (as you can't turn off the phone with mains power connected), but only just. I have tried using the original battery which I initially suspected was causing issues but even a generic battery has the same issues. I'm tempted to spend $20 on a genuine battery but I don't think it will really help given the generic battery did work properly when the phone was itself.
I'm now faced with upgrading to the Lumia 920 but with new models around the corner I think I'm going for the budget Lumia 520 which has similar specs to the Focus (except LED flash) and will hold out for the new flagship model, or buy the 920 when it falls a bit more.

Hi - just wanted to add my experience with this issue (as my focus exhibited these exact symptoms today). Unlike some people, though, even if my phone managed to boot up, it would shut down again after a few seconds on the tile screen.
Like cysser0, I also suspected the battery at first, but replacing the long-life I had purchased last year with the original battery (which I keep charged as a back-up) had no effect on the symptoms. To be brief, I tried all sorts of things over the course of an hour. Nearing the end of my tether, and resigning myself to try a format as a last resort, I discovered that if I held the power button and the volume button down, I could get the phone to stay on. Releasing either of these buttons would result in the phone switching off suddenly.
Wrapping a rubber band tightly around the top of the phone has allowed me to continue using the phone for the moment, and I have managed to do a backup of all my content (not that I will be able to restore it on this phone, it seems).

HTC HD2 broken

Hi,
After a night in a tent my HTC HD2 started to malfunction. When turning on the device I noticed it said ''safe mode'' (Android NAND (sensation rom)). At first I didn't think much of it, because I thought the device had turned of due to a dead battery. However after leaving it for a while to recharge I noticed that after each reboot it would return to safe mode. Then I noticed that the device kept showing that it was in vibration mode --> the volume down button is stuck(not physically though). Also the device kept popping up ''recent activities''... I'm under the impression that this is due to a malfunctioning call button, not a 100% sure though.
After I reflashed it to wm 6.5 the problem still prevails. However I was able to get a more detailed view of the issue:
The windows button lacks every response, the call button does not respond on touch but seems to randomely activate the call function. The home button functions poorly. However the back button, power on button and volume up button function correctly.
The volume down button seems dependent on the other buttons. When pushing one of the buttons below the screen the volume down button is activated and is stuck untill the screen is turned on and off. However the volume up button does not yield such a result. The volume down button still is responsive to touch though, as long as it is not stuck.
Any ideas how to solve this problem, or how to work around it? As a precaution I put the HD2 in a box with a moisture absorber.

Hi. I wish I could give you a better understand that what I can offer but what I think happened is you probably rolled onto your phone while sleeping.
This is not to say your problem could have came from something else but let me explain a little about safe mode.
Safe mode anyone can enter by pressing volume down and holding it while it boots up. It allows the developer a safe mode they can enter similiar to
why your computer has it installed on it. Normally pulling the battery and letting the phone reboot clears this out though. With that being said i think what
has happened is the volume button has stopped working as it should. There are several sites you can go to here on the web to send your phone out
to have it looked at and fixed. All in all it shouldn't be that costly and if your mechanically inclined and (careful) it shouldn't be to hard to do it yourself. I
would make sure you take very good notes/pictures in dismantling your phone because if you put it back together wrong you can make the problem worse.
Ebay, listing found here has the volume button and the tools necessary to open your phone and repair the volume key for around $7 usd.
Please make sure your phone model is supported and you have the know how to do this without making things a bigger issue. I would also
suggest to wait for more info because I could be wrong as well.

Thanks for your time, effort and information.
However I don't think it is a problem caused due to physical damage to the volume button. In addition the phone was in a 'sidepocket' of the tent, making it virtually impossible to roll onto it. Because the call button is malfunctioning as well I can imagine it being motherboard related, addmittedly I am not much of an electrician .

The issue has been partly resolved. Only one problem still exists. When I push the windows button it results in a volume up response. I performed a hard reset but the problem still persists, any ideas what could cause this?
Cheers

The hd2 high level of integration can not fall. Even without the screen broke, other things will break, so the sets of sets of silicone can not throw. Screen indeed not easy to break unless it fell out just in time to have something to knock to the screen.

NEED HELP. Power button stuck.

My power button gets stuck and as you know when you long press it it reboots the phone. So basically my phone is just constantly rebooting and rebooting, its practically unusable. I need help if anyone knows a way to disable the function of power button, I mean so the power button wont do any function anymore, or swap it with another button.

I had the same problem. Got the button replaced, it worked for a month or so and I started getting the random reboots again. A search on the internet reveals that this is a common problem with the S3, and I doubt they fixed the issue for the S3 neo.
1.5 years of use and my power button is broken, my volume buttons are mushy and my camera doesn't focus at all. The build quality on this phone is a joke.
You'll probably have to have your power key replaced as well. Or do what I did and remove it from the motherboard. You won't believe how flimsy the solder is. I now use the accessibility shortcut button to lock / unlock my phone. It's a hassle and it takes up screen real estate, but at least it works.

SpaceDye said:
I had the same problem. Got the button replaced, it worked for a month or so and I started getting the random reboots again. A search on the internet reveals that this is a common problem with the S3, and I doubt they fixed the issue for the S3 neo.
1.5 years of use and my power button is broken, my volume buttons are mushy and my camera doesn't focus at all. The build quality on this phone is a joke.
You'll probably have to have your power key replaced as well. Or do what I did and remove it from the motherboard. You won't believe how flimsy the solder is. I now use the accessibility shortcut button to lock / unlock my phone. It's a hassle and it takes up screen real estate, but at least it works.
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Mine stopped doing it now but I'm sure it will start again. You are right, build quality of this phone is really lame. That part on the sides that looks like metal is mostly worned off from my phone. Camera focus is crap and volume is lower than before, I can barely hear notifications. Maybe I'll remove the button too, but I'm concerned about how to boot the phone if it turns off.

You can turn on the phone by connecting the charger, immediately booting into download mode (before the battery icon comes up) and restarting from there. It's not the best solution, but at least I have a functional phone until my oneplus x arrives sometime this week

try to do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXSbBG4NV-w

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try to do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXSbBG4NV-w
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I tried something similar and boy it works for a while.

SpaceDye said:
You can turn on the phone by connecting the charger, immediately booting into download mode (before the battery icon comes up) and restarting from there. It's not the best solution, but at least I have a functional phone until my oneplus x arrives sometime this week
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That's actually a fantastic idea. I thought about flashing cm that has no offline charging and booting that way, but this is better solution lol.

SpaceDye said:
. I now use the accessibility shortcut button to lock / unlock my phone.
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You can try nova launcher since it has a gesture for double tap to lock screen, or maybe a 3rd party app.

use soft lock to lock screen without pressing power button