How to switch off Treo Pro??? - Palm Treo Pro

I have been using my Treo Pro for a couple of months now and have not managed to simply switch it off!?!
When I press the "power" button on the top shortly the screen goes off and when I press it longer only the phone function goes off.
To switch it off completely I need to take out the battery.
Is this a bug or a feature???? Anyway it annoys me...
Cheers
fredw_de

fredw_de said:
I have been using my Treo Pro for a couple of months now and have not managed to simply switch it off!?!
When I press the "power" button on the top shortly the screen goes off and when I press it longer only the phone function goes off.
To switch it off completely I need to take out the battery.
Is this a bug or a feature???? Anyway it annoys me...
Cheers
fredw_de
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Yes there is no off, holding the top button is only radio on and off e.g flight mode, thats how it was designed?, great isn't it!!!!

Reset instead of "off"
Yeah, I was a bit concerned about not being able to turn off my Treo completely either. The only way to reset it was to remove the back cover and press the reset button on the back lower left side of the phone. But taking the back cover off over repeatedly - which is somewhat of a pain to do as you may have noticed - could possibly lead to the widely reported cracks in the phone. However, if you remove the stylus and look in the small opening there, you can see the reset button! I unfolded a paper clip and was able to reach the reset button without any difficulty. I've tried to do this with the stylus itself, but I feel it's just slightly too thick to get in there properly without bumping into the rear cover. Windows Mobile tends to need a soft reset every now & then to keep things running smoothly, so hopefully this helps you.

It should also be noted that whenever you do a Sprite backup it will actually restart the phone before and after the backup.
I just do a weekly Sprite backup and haven't had to do a soft reset at all yet.

There is no Treo as far as I know of that had the ability to turn off completely. Probably because they thought that flight modus was enough
To soft reset device is advised to install a small app rather than to take the back cover off every time. This is absolulty the most stupid place to put the reset button. If I take off the cover you might as well pull out the battery instead

I have this POS also! I noticed this inability to power the phone off as well. I was able to power mine off by holding down the top power button then afterwards I held the red end button down untill it turned off. Seems to work, correct me if i'm wrong. I put my treo pro back in the box because i'm selling it asap! This phone has a very nice look and feel but I hate the tiny cramped keyboard and the display is very dull and faded looking. My two biggest gripes which is more than enough for for to deactivate it and go back to one of my other phones... like the touch pro i'm using to type this post. Fare well Palm Treo Pro!

Dull and faded screen?
To each his own I guess. My screen is sharp and so bright I had to crank it way down.
It's weird that you can't simply turn it all the way off. But that does not bother me too much. I want my phone on all the time.
The keyboard is small.....but very usable...IMHO.
I think it's near perfect in size and functionality. The Pre looks sweet but I will be in no hurry to switch over.....I can wait.

I would strongly disagree about the screen being dull and dark, that is crazy to me.
The only time I really ever want or need to shut my phone off is if it about to die and I want to shut my phone off in case I need it in an emergency to make a call. Not being able to do that has been incredibly inconvenient quite often lately. After a heavy day of usage my phone can die now by 7-8pm sometimes earlier. I had to go out and buy an i-go portable charger.

fungflex said:
I would strongly disagree about the screen being dull and dark, that is crazy to me...
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Same here.. ..I seemed that PocketNow received a Pro for a review suffering the same problems.
Can't complain on the screen on my Treo Pro! (It's not as colorful as my Nokia E71, but still good enough..

Power Off
waynebam said:
Yes there is no off, holding the top button is only radio on and off e.g flight mode, thats how it was designed?, great isn't it!!!!
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Yes there is an Off for the Palm Treo
Pull the Battery
While holding the Top power button, Red Button & Green Button all at the same time, Put it back in this is put it into i think its called a Sleep Mode....
Hope this helps

pjogorman said:
Yes there is an Off for the Palm Treo
Pull the Battery
While holding the Top power button, Red Button & Green Button all at the same time, Put it back in this is put it into i think its called a Sleep Mode....
Hope this helps
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hahaha, the only thing left to do is find a third hand ;P

isnt there a poweroffwarning.exe in the windows folder , i know a link to that can turn off my diamond ?

In order to shutdown any Windows at the bottom level there is a call to a function called ExitWindowsEx, which in Windows Mobile 6 the flag EWX_POWEROFF isn't supported.
So in fact the problem of shutting down Treo isn't a problem specific of the device, but with the OS itself. So any Windows Mobile 6 based device will not power off, unless you take out the battery.

PJonDevelopment said:
In order to shutdown any Windows at the bottom level there is a call to a function called ExitWindowsEx, which in Windows Mobile 6 the flag EWX_POWEROFF isn't supported.
So in fact the problem of shutting down Treo isn't a problem specific of the device, but with the OS itself. So any Windows Mobile 6 based device will not power off, unless you take out the battery.
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This explains the whole thing !!!
Apparently I have seen my HTC touch shutdown totally with the power button. This I believe is a "feature" with HTC phones. Since TP is actually HTC Panther, wonder if we can implement this...I will try and get an app around this and see what happens.

Go into the comm's menu and turn the phone off. Then lock it by hitting the red button once and hit the button at the top of the phone, left side of top.
Done.

You can turn off a treo pro by doing soft-reset and quickly holding the red, green, and top power buttons simultaneously for 3 seconds. You can also remove and insert the battery and quickly hold those 3 buttons for 3 seconds. You turn it on by pressing the top power button.

OK, it does turn the treo pro off, but I can only turn it on by removing and putting back the battery.

kashifsiddique said:
You can turn off a treo pro by doing soft-reset and quickly holding the red, green, and top power buttons simultaneously for 3 seconds. You can also remove and insert the battery and quickly hold those 3 buttons for 3 seconds. You turn it on by pressing the top power button.
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How swithc OFF my XDA mini?

Dear friend,
how do I do to put OFF completely my magician XDAmini?
Best regards
Daniele
Take the battery out?
And pushing the power button?
The power button can only put the phone is Standby. In PDA phones there is no such thing as OFF. The RAM needs power all the time. Sliding the battery cover in and out will also power off the device. Don't leave that long though, otherwise you risk losing all the information.
Hello,
I'm new so plz be patient. Ok, pressing the power button only allows us to set the device in standby mode. How do I turn off the phone (gsm) mode then? The idea is just that I want to figure out a way to reduce the power consumption as much as possible.
Thx for all coming answers..
To turn the phone itself off click on the signal strength indicator then click on 'Turn on flight mode'
This turns off the phone part of the device but leaves the pda side still functional
HTH
Alrite. But is there a way to accomplish that task with hardware buttons? Guess not, ey?
Just don't wanna pull out my stylus that often.. *g*
Press and hold the power button for several seconds. this will actually turn the device OFF.
Do the same to turn it back on.
pnharrison said:
Press and hold the power button for several seconds. this will actually turn the device OFF.
Do the same to turn it back on.
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This is not true. When you do that, the background light will be off, but the phone is still working.
moses3k said:
Alrite. But is there a way to accomplish that task with hardware buttons? Guess not, ey?
Just don't wanna pull out my stylus that often.. *g*
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You could install PocketZenPhone from here: http://zendrui.free.fr/ and then, as long as your fingers are not too fat, you can press an icon on the today screen. 8)
Cool, thx for this hint.
moses3k said:
Hello,
I'm new so plz be patient. Ok, pressing the power button only allows us to set the device in standby mode. How do I turn off the phone (gsm) mode then? The idea is just that I want to figure out a way to reduce the power consumption as much as possible.
Thx for all coming answers..
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I don't think that the GPRS is using that much power, but to turn it off, hold the RED Phone button down for several seconds (I never timed it, I just wait for the "GPRS Connected" icon to disappear.
Your best bet for power consumption is to lower the screen brightness to it's lowest level, and set the screen backlight to go off at 30 seconds, and lastly to set the device to power down at 1 minute of inactivity.
copy this app to your magician, in a folder you want. Bind it to a hard button or make a shortcut on your Todayscreen with SPB Pocket PLus or another program.
PocketZenPhone (the tray version of it) can also be used to set the profiles via hardware buttons. This can be done with making shortcuts to the .exe with setting the specific profile. I'm using this together with MortButtons to switch between my profiles of PocketZenPhone.
Yzord said:
pnharrison said:
Press and hold the power button for several seconds. this will actually turn the device OFF.
Do the same to turn it back on.
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This is not true. When you do that, the background light will be off, but the phone is still working.
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Yzord; no it really does work (did you try it ?)
Yes, pressing the power button briefly just turns the screen off ; I think we all know that.
However holding the button down for several seconds will allow you to turn it off completely. = power off; no applications running; no phone or other network connections; zero power consumption, nada.
PH
the best way to stop using magician:
charge battery to 50%
do a backup
pull out battery
pack you magician
several years later
get it out
put in battery
do a restore
charge and use it
(maybe 5% drop one year, so can put aside ten years
pnharrison said:
Yzord said:
pnharrison said:
Press and hold the power button for several seconds. this will actually turn the device OFF.
Do the same to turn it back on.
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This is not true. When you do that, the background light will be off, but the phone is still working.
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Yzord; no it really does work (did you try it ?)
Yes, pressing the power button briefly just turns the screen off ; I think we all know that.
However holding the button down for several seconds will allow you to turn it off completely. = power off; no applications running; no phone or other network connections; zero power consumption, nada.
PH
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It will still lose some power in keeping the RAM filled, if it loses all power (goes very slowly however), all your installed programs and data will be lost. It takes a long time, but it still uses power to keep the RAM chips powered and the clock correct. Furtheremore, with the Magician it keeps the phone and alarms awake, so you can receive calls. You have to turn on flight mode manually to turn the radio off. Also you have to turn off all alarms to prevent your device from waking up. Your method is more like the one used on the Wizard, where holding the power button for 5 seconds really turns everything off and when pressing and holding again makes the Wizard start up again (with boot screen and all).
cucchiarellid said:
Dear friend,
how do I do to put OFF completely my magician XDAmini?
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Also thought of this when I first got my xda mini. Now, after some reading here in the forums, I just switched my xda mini to flight mode before I go to sleep. It turns off the phone. Hope this helps.

Crazy volume problem

Basically, it is as if the top volume button is held down, and the volume is continuously going up on my HD, even when I try to turn it down, it shoots back up again, and is stuck on the volume screen. Sometimes, if I turn it down to silent, it will stay silent for a few seconds, then the volume goes up again and keeps going up.
Really annoying as it means the phone is basically unusable as I'm pretty much always trapped in the volume screen!
Any ideas?
I would suppose that a button is stuck!
Take of the back cover and take a good look at the buttons to see if anything could be wrong!
Wavac said:
I would suppose that a button is stuck!
Take of the back cover and take a good look at the buttons to see if anything could be wrong!
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That's what I thought, but it looks fine to me
I had the same problem as you but I then realize that when I was putting down the volume while in a conversation was my face pressing the screen and increasing again the volume...could it be your same problem?
pureheart said:
I had the same problem as you but I then realize that when I was putting down the volume while in a conversation was my face pressing the screen and increasing again the volume...could it be your same problem?
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Nope, because it happens if I don't touch the phone and just leave it on the table
Have you tried a hard reset?
Do a backup first.
Turn off the phone. If you can't pull the battery out.
Hold the volume up + down at the same time then press the power on button for about 1 second. Let go of the power button while keeping the volume up and down still pressed down.
You should see a blue / green / red screen then just follow the instructions on screen.
If this doesn't solve your problem then most likely something is keeping your volume up button depressed internally. Take it back for repair...
The volume slider malfunctioning is a big one on HTC devices known issues. I've had the same problem with my elf....and I've seen plenty that do too. Your best bet would be to take it to an authorized service rep. Sucks I know
Try to remove the cover and use it... the pressing mechanism is on the cover...
sectorlord said:
Try to remove the cover and use it... the pressing mechanism is on the cover...
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Tried that, still the same problem.
I'm going to try a hard reset today, if I still get the problem, going to ask Orange to replace it. I wonder if they'll let me pick another phone, I'm getting a bit fed up with the HD!
I have the same problem, it occurs randomly and I discovered that if I quickly press the power button to stand by the phone and press it again to exit from stand by, the volume bug disappears and phone starts working well again. I thought it was a software bug but I still have it on 1.19. It rarely happens now on 1.13 was more frequent.

[Q] Power button during calls

I read a lot of reviews about the Omnia 7 before buying one (can't have it until Christmas - I'm being good you see!) and a lot of them complained about the power button being in a place you're likely to press during a call.
My question: what happens if you press the power button during a call? On my HD (WinMo 6.5), it just goes in and out of standby but the call stays connected (so you can turn the screen on to use the keypad or switch to loudspeaker, etc). Is it the same with WP7?
My question too cause im looking to buy this phone also
I use the Omnia 7 for about 2 weeks now. Never had the problem of hitting the power button while making calls. But if I do so, nothing happens, it just turns of the screen, the call is still on. Same thing as you put your phone near your head and the sensor turns your screen off.
On other hand i "had" little problems with the back and search buttons. You can easily hit those buttons while doing other stuff. But its not as a big deal as it sounds.
Thanks very much - just what I needed. I was a bit worried as the Engadget review went on and on about the power button being just by your thumb, but it doesn't seem a big deal to me.
Edit: I thanked _ivo_ as well by accident - didn't mean it! No hard feelings
CreepinJesus said:
Thanks very much - just what I needed. I was a bit worried as the Engadget review went on and on about the power button being just by your thumb, but it doesn't seem a big deal to me.
Edit: I thanked _ivo_ as well by accident - didn't mean it! No hard feelings
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This almost put me off too. They must hold their phone in the most unusual way known to man, because my thumb sits nicely between the power & camera buttons...
The power button needs to be firmly pressed to turn off power, it would be very hard to press this unintentionally unless you hold your phone as tight as possible while calling.

Focus is dying, what could it be?

i suspect the power/lock button is FUBAR, but there are some other symptoms that do not resemble just a bad power/lock button. here are the symptoms that indicate it is the power/lock button:
1. when the phone is off, almost impossible to turn on. sometimes have to press and hold power button 10-12 times before it will shut on
2. when the phone is on and i press the lock button to lock the phone, most of the time it thinks i held the button and says "slide down to power off" although sometimes it doesn't respond at all. it almost NEVER locks when i press it (like it should be doing)
3. when the phone is on and i press the lock button to unlock the phone, most of the time it shuts off completely and i go back to step 1
symptom that indicates another problem not related to power/lock button:
1. if the phone is off and i press the power button, when the phone responds it will sometimes say "samsung" like it is turning on, and then nothing else will happen. i won't get the ATT screen and it won't boot up. this some times happens multiple times before the phone finally boots
currently i've been letting the phone time out automatically instead of the lock button, and using the camera button to unlock it. i've also been trying to not let it turn off at all, because getting it back on is really tough.
is there anyway i can disable the lock/power button...and/or is there an alternative way to lock and turn on your phone that doesn't require the use of that button? even if i tell myself not to use it, there are still times in your pocket where the darn thing gets pressed. for me that could mean it kills my phone and doesn't restart for the rest of the day, which i'm sure you can imagine is not ideal.
tuffluck said:
i suspect the power/lock button is FUBAR, but there are some other symptoms that do not resemble just a bad power/lock button. here are the symptoms that indicate it is the power/lock button:
1. when the phone is off, almost impossible to turn on. sometimes have to press and hold power button 10-12 times before it will shut on
2. when the phone is on and i press the lock button to lock the phone, most of the time it thinks i held the button and says "slide down to power off" although sometimes it doesn't respond at all. it almost NEVER locks when i press it (like it should be doing)
3. when the phone is on and i press the lock button to unlock the phone, most of the time it shuts off completely and i go back to step 1
symptom that indicates another problem not related to power/lock button:
1. if the phone is off and i press the power button, when the phone responds it will sometimes say "samsung" like it is turning on, and then nothing else will happen. i won't get the ATT screen and it won't boot up. this some times happens multiple times before the phone finally boots
currently i've been letting the phone time out automatically instead of the lock button, and using the camera button to unlock it. i've also been trying to not let it turn off at all, because getting it back on is really tough.
is there anyway i can disable the lock/power button...and/or is there an alternative way to lock and turn on your phone that doesn't require the use of that button? even if i tell myself not to use it, there are still times in your pocket where the darn thing gets pressed. for me that could mean it kills my phone and doesn't restart for the rest of the day, which i'm sure you can imagine is not ideal.
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You seem to have a (hardware) problem with the power button (obviously).
There are a couple of ways to turn on the phone/display without the power button:
- camera/back
- connect power charger
- usb connect
Last 2 are not practical and first you already do. You should try and see how much would it cost to replace the power button, if you're out of warranty. Should be cheap, and beats workarounds.
is there any way to lock it rather than letting it just time out? what about turning it on?
do you feel pretty confident that the seemingly unrelated symptom where the "samsung" screen comes up and then shuts off while trying to turn the phone on STILL indicates the button is broken? just worried this problem extends further than just the button.
thanks for your help.
tuffluck said:
is there any way to lock it rather than letting it just time out? what about turning it on?
do you feel pretty confident that the seemingly unrelated symptom where the "samsung" screen comes up and then shuts off while trying to turn the phone on STILL indicates the button is broken? just worried this problem extends further than just the button.
thanks for your help.
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There's no other way to turn it on (except plugging it to charge) and you found the one workaround, with the camera.
I am *very* sure that the power button is the culprit in your case, most likely the spring that pops back the button is either broken or out of place.
If you keep the power button pressed, in 2 seconds you'll see the slide message, but if you keep it pressed, then it just turns off after 2 more seconds. So, yes, it's the power button and nothing else, in your case.
Fix that and you should be back to normal.
And you're not the only one with this problem. Recently, I've tried to help someone else here, with the same problem, as you can see here.
thanks. i called around and a guy here in town said it will take him 30 minutes for $30 to fix it. i'm taking it to him at lunch, so hopefully i'll come back with a fully functional phone--he also was pretty certain it was the power button, and had seen this before. thanks for your help.
well it wasn't the power button. apparently there is a battery connected to the power button that is dying. but you can't even order a new battery, so pretty much once it's dead, it's dead for good and you have to do the camera button workaround like i was doing.
though he did solder the battery to the board a little more (that's another problem, from the factory it is soldered to the main board so even if you could replace it, you'd likely damage the board), and it seemed to fix the problem. he claimed it would only be temporary and within a few weeks the problem will likely come back.
tuffluck said:
well it wasn't the power button. apparently there is a battery connected to the power button that is dying. but you can't even order a new battery, so pretty much once it's dead, it's dead for good and you have to do the camera button workaround like i was doing.
though he did solder the battery to the board a little more (that's another problem, from the factory it is soldered to the main board so even if you could replace it, you'd likely damage the board), and it seemed to fix the problem. he claimed it would only be temporary and within a few weeks the problem will likely come back.
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That is weird indeed. I don't think I ever heard of another type of battery being used in phones, tied to buttons. Unless it's a capacitor but anyways...
Thanks for sharing the info with us!
I know this is thread is almost a year old, but unfortunately, it seems my Samsung Focus (v1.3) also has the exact same issue.
The worst bit is that every other aspect of this once glorious phone still works and I was very happy using it, not really feeling the need to upgrade.
I was using a custom ROM which I flashed back to AT&T original 7004 but that did not work. It doesn't seem to be a software issue at all.
The symptoms are the same - tapping the power button to lock the phone gives you the option to slide to power-off and after a second it will do that anyway (without any interaction). When you try to boot, it won't progress past the SAMSUNG screen and in the rare chance it does boot, it will work for an hour or two before dying again. Connecting power helps a little (as you can't turn off the phone with mains power connected), but only just. I have tried using the original battery which I initially suspected was causing issues but even a generic battery has the same issues. I'm tempted to spend $20 on a genuine battery but I don't think it will really help given the generic battery did work properly when the phone was itself.
I'm now faced with upgrading to the Lumia 920 but with new models around the corner I think I'm going for the budget Lumia 520 which has similar specs to the Focus (except LED flash) and will hold out for the new flagship model, or buy the 920 when it falls a bit more.
Hi - just wanted to add my experience with this issue (as my focus exhibited these exact symptoms today). Unlike some people, though, even if my phone managed to boot up, it would shut down again after a few seconds on the tile screen.
Like cysser0, I also suspected the battery at first, but replacing the long-life I had purchased last year with the original battery (which I keep charged as a back-up) had no effect on the symptoms. To be brief, I tried all sorts of things over the course of an hour. Nearing the end of my tether, and resigning myself to try a format as a last resort, I discovered that if I held the power button and the volume button down, I could get the phone to stay on. Releasing either of these buttons would result in the phone switching off suddenly.
Wrapping a rubber band tightly around the top of the phone has allowed me to continue using the phone for the moment, and I have managed to do a backup of all my content (not that I will be able to restore it on this phone, it seems).

NEED HELP. Power button stuck.

My power button gets stuck and as you know when you long press it it reboots the phone. So basically my phone is just constantly rebooting and rebooting, its practically unusable. I need help if anyone knows a way to disable the function of power button, I mean so the power button wont do any function anymore, or swap it with another button.
I had the same problem. Got the button replaced, it worked for a month or so and I started getting the random reboots again. A search on the internet reveals that this is a common problem with the S3, and I doubt they fixed the issue for the S3 neo.
1.5 years of use and my power button is broken, my volume buttons are mushy and my camera doesn't focus at all. The build quality on this phone is a joke.
You'll probably have to have your power key replaced as well. Or do what I did and remove it from the motherboard. You won't believe how flimsy the solder is. I now use the accessibility shortcut button to lock / unlock my phone. It's a hassle and it takes up screen real estate, but at least it works.
SpaceDye said:
I had the same problem. Got the button replaced, it worked for a month or so and I started getting the random reboots again. A search on the internet reveals that this is a common problem with the S3, and I doubt they fixed the issue for the S3 neo.
1.5 years of use and my power button is broken, my volume buttons are mushy and my camera doesn't focus at all. The build quality on this phone is a joke.
You'll probably have to have your power key replaced as well. Or do what I did and remove it from the motherboard. You won't believe how flimsy the solder is. I now use the accessibility shortcut button to lock / unlock my phone. It's a hassle and it takes up screen real estate, but at least it works.
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Mine stopped doing it now but I'm sure it will start again. You are right, build quality of this phone is really lame. That part on the sides that looks like metal is mostly worned off from my phone. Camera focus is crap and volume is lower than before, I can barely hear notifications. Maybe I'll remove the button too, but I'm concerned about how to boot the phone if it turns off.
You can turn on the phone by connecting the charger, immediately booting into download mode (before the battery icon comes up) and restarting from there. It's not the best solution, but at least I have a functional phone until my oneplus x arrives sometime this week
try to do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXSbBG4NV-w
samo_say said:
try to do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXSbBG4NV-w
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I tried something similar and boy it works for a while.
SpaceDye said:
You can turn on the phone by connecting the charger, immediately booting into download mode (before the battery icon comes up) and restarting from there. It's not the best solution, but at least I have a functional phone until my oneplus x arrives sometime this week
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That's actually a fantastic idea. I thought about flashing cm that has no offline charging and booting that way, but this is better solution lol.
SpaceDye said:
. I now use the accessibility shortcut button to lock / unlock my phone.
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You can try nova launcher since it has a gesture for double tap to lock screen, or maybe a 3rd party app.
use soft lock to lock screen without pressing power button

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