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on my touch pro ive had no need for watchin super high res videos but with the hd2's screen i figure why not.
do free players support mkv files and do they actually play without stuttering?
I dunno about 720p files without studder but it might do it, depends on how well it was encoded.
On my Fuze I have played some MkV files on Coreplayer as well as FLAC and OGG without issues.
Easy answer - no.
If you want best quality, recode them to 800x480 MP4.
But if you're into series, the standard xvid versions already play beautifully.
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I used Handbrake for encoding files into MKV and MP4 to play them in TCPMP. The best results i had with MKV, more sharp, more brighness and they´re running without breaks.
so for 800x480 what other video settings did you pick for mkv to have it play perfect? i got a bit of stutttering on the file i tried today
Sounds Interesting.
just use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Xvid is easier on the processor than H264 so you will get better results with it, just up the bitrate to 2Mbps+ and it'll look better than the the 750kbps H264, and it'll play faster as well.
CPU
did you know that even G4 Cpus cant handle 720p Perfectly!
also, there is absolutely no reason to watch a 1280×720 resolution file on a screen that is only 800x480.
it will give you no advantages visually.
no, but time advantages if it wasn't necessary to reencode the video ..
This phone should be able to handle 720P, I mean my old i8910 (600Mhz CPU, 256MB RAM, native DivX/Xvid support) could play most 720P I threw at it, so certainly the hardware isn't the main issue here...
m720p mkv's converted to mp4 using winmenc (and the audio sync fix to counteract the hd2's sync problem) and playing on windows media player looks great
hmm, do you have soo many 720p sources? i play normal tv shows and movies as divx or xvid DVD quality, and that plays perfectly....
brandi said:
hmm, do you have soo many 720p sources? i play normal tv shows and movies as divx or xvid DVD quality, and that plays perfectly....
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No choice, some of us have moved to HD media for quite sometime already.
NZtechfreak said:
This phone should be able to handle 720P, I mean my old i8910 (600Mhz CPU, 256MB RAM, native DivX/Xvid support) could play most 720P I threw at it, so certainly the hardware isn't the main issue here...
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hehe...for sure you can't play 720p mkvs on the i8910.
Is there current support or plans to support XVID and MKV files natively? Ive tried the "Rock Player" and its not very reliable.
mobo player plays avi's very well no jerkiness at all. it plays mkv's pretty well also. as far as natively, i have no clue...
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mobo player plays avi's very well no jerkiness at all. it plays mkv's pretty well also. as far as natively, i have no clue...
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I thought it was established that high profile H264 MKVs (pretty much 90% of what's floating out there) didn't play well on the TF101 because of the Tegra 2's shortcomings?
logic88 said:
I thought it was established that high profile H264 MKVs (pretty much 90% of what's floating out there) didn't play well on the TF101 because of the Tegra 2's shortcomings?
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In 3.1 some of them play but with limited frame rate.
I was hoping for the same thing all the 720p files I have don't work,
It doesn't even see them as a video file,
Bit gutted that I have to convert them,
Strangely the Archos 101 plays all of them fine without any issues,
So not sure what the issue is or if it is codec related as the arches does have a archos cinema plugin installed..
I tried moboplayer and rockplayer at first. And i managed to play MKV's smoothly, but only when started from the gallery. When I open the same mkv directly from moboplayer or rockplayer the movie didn't play smooth at all. So I tried mVideoPlayer. After i installed mVideoPlayer my mkv's play smooth anyway I open them. The best part is that the stockplayer plays MKV's as well (but dosn't have support for subtitles).
But the main problem is that most mkv's have 5.1 sound, this is not supported, you can convert the soundtrack with mkvavi2mp4 or convert the whole movie with handbrake (takes a lot longer).
Just a heads up - noticed a app I had not seen on the market before, MX player. Codec pack with specific support for the Tegra chipset, and so far it has done a *great* job with a few different formats I have thrown at it. Have not tried 720 or 1080 yet, but I think this one is worth checking out.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/mx-videoplayer/com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad
or just search MX player on the market.
Which formats have you tried?
Looks great!
I tried a couple of videos (mostly divx) and everything looks good.
You'll need to install two packages:
MX VideoPlayer
MX VideoPlayer Codec (ARMv7)
Nice interface, no scarring/blurring. I was looking for a good video player (to go with my shiny 32GB SDHC) -- much appreciated.
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So far, avi, mkv, wmv, mov, flv and all seem fine.
Downloading a 720 and 1080 sample in mkv now for testing, will report back.
[update] 720 was great - smooth and nice.
1080 was a nightmare, dropping frames like mad.
I'm going to try this one:
http://bit.ly/pixarhdtrailer (via demo-world.eu)
update: this particular trailer is not supported by HW decoder.
Not an issue for me; hopefully someone can test a HW decoder-supported 1080p format file.
entropy.of.avarice said:
So far, avi, mkv, wmv, mov, flv and all seem fine.
Downloading a 720 and 1080 sample in mkv now for testing, will report back.
[update] 720 was great - smooth and nice.
1080 was a nightmare, dropping frames like mad.
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I assume the sample files you downloaded are H.264 and then you need to know if they're baseline-, main- or high-profile. Just saying 1080p drops frames like mad is not enough. Then again, even the stock player plays 1080p just fine if it's baseline-profile, so I'd say whatever you were playing wasn't baseline. And well, Tegra2 simply does not have the beef to play non-baseline 1080p, it's simply too demanding.
Just like Moboplayer it doesn't show the subtitles in my .mkv file nor does it scale the anamorphic aspect ...
AC3 support?
Hi,
imho both this MX and MoboPlayer are on par, very useful where MoboPlayer is ad-free!
Still haven't found a solution for playing AC3-audio-encoded MKV/AVI files. Either no sound at all or stutter when soft-decoding ...
Marcher
lol @ ad supported
I'm rooted and running ad-free android, had no idea this player used any kids of ads, never see any of them lol
Subtitles work just fine. They are supported.
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I assume the sample files you downloaded are H.264 and then you need to know if they're baseline-, main- or high-profile. Just saying 1080p drops frames like mad is not enough. Then again, even the stock player plays 1080p just fine if it's baseline-profile, so I'd say whatever you were playing wasn't baseline. And well, Tegra2 simply does not have the beef to play non-baseline 1080p, it's simply too demanding.
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Thanks so much, WereCatf! I am actually a little behind the times when it comes to HD video formats and how they work, that helped make some sense of it. So I am assuming if i have non-baseline 1080p I can just convert it for the Iconia?
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Thanks so much, WereCatf! I am actually a little behind the times when it comes to HD video formats and how they work, that helped make some sense of it. So I am assuming if i have non-baseline 1080p I can just convert it for the Iconia?
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Yeah, Handbrake works fine for transcoding things. I'm just in the middle of our guild raid in WoW, but I can post Handbrake settings for both 720p high-profile and 1080p baseline-profile in two or two-and-a-half hours.
But do keep in mind that if you're just watching the video on your tablet, not on a big screen via HDMI, then there's no point in watching 1080p at all because the tablet screen is only 720p resolution. You'll save storage space if you transcode to high-profile 720p in that case.
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Yeah, Handbrake works fine for transcoding things. I'm just in the middle of our guild raid in WoW, but I can post Handbrake settings for both 720p high-profile and 1080p baseline-profile in two or two-and-a-half hours.
But do keep in mind that if you're just watching the video on your tablet, not on a big screen via HDMI, then there's no point in watching 1080p at all because the tablet screen is only 720p resolution. You'll save storage space if you transcode to high-profile 720p in that case.
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Sweet! Would be most grateful for that, I travel with my a500 often and hook into displays via video out, would be most grateful for those profiles.
Thank you for your help!
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Sweet! Would be most grateful for that, I travel with my a500 often and hook into displays via video out, would be most grateful for those profiles.
Thank you for your help!
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I made a separate thread for that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184002
Video and audio still out of sync when I play my 720p mkv files. I'll stick with mobo since its ad free.
Great find to the OP. I just played an h264 sample 720p mp4 in hardware decode mode with MX player, and while it dropped very few frames, Rock Player absolutely refused to play it.
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Great find to the OP. I just played an h264 sample 720p mp4 in hardware decode mode with MX player, and while it dropped very few frames, Rock Player absolutely refused to play it.
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Thanks! Have really been enjoying this player, Rock Player and mobo player have choked at so many files I've thrown at it - while Mx player seems to have no issues with them.
Thanks to Werecatf - i have used Mx player to output 1080 via HDMI out via this player with very few dropped frames - everything looks great.
To those of you annoyed by the ads - assuming you are rooted - just install a ad-blocker. From the market, "ad free android" works fantastic for me, free package, I have not seen a single ad since I installed.
onelane said:
Video and audio still out of sync when I play my 720p mkv files. I'll stick with mobo since its ad free.
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Strange - played quite a few 720p files without this problem. Sorry to hear it. Does mobo player work without these sync issues? All i get from moboplayer is force closes and erratic behaviour - no idea why.
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Thanks! Have really been enjoying this player, Rock Player and mobo player have choked at so many files I've thrown at it - while Mx player seems to have no issues with them.
Thanks to Werecatf - i have used Mx player to output 1080 via HDMI out via this player with very few dropped frames - everything looks great.
To those of you annoyed by the ads - assuming you are rooted - just install a ad-blocker. From the market, "ad free android" works fantastic for me, free package, I have not seen a single ad since I installed.
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You got two clickety clicks, one for the player, and one for adfree!
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Just like Moboplayer it doesn't show the subtitles in my .mkv file ...
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for subtitle I just burn in when I encode using the handbrake...
works just fine.
Moboplayer works great for me. I like mxplayer, but mobo has a nicer UI, IMHO.
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Does the native player of Xoom also plays 1080p video files
ie. mp4, avi, wmv, etc.
If not, does other players like vplayer, mobo could make this possible?
I doubt as Motorola Web and Wikipedia say the Xoom can play
"Up to 720p video" but sure it's not quite enough as long as HDMI it to a 32" TV.
Therefore is it possible for Xoom playing 1080p video smoothly?
Thank You. And I'm from Hong Kong (although there's nothing to do with the question )
it can play 1080p but video stutter.
Thank You. And I'm from Hong Kong (although there's nothing to do with the question )
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true. 1080p will trouble as much to bill clinton.
you can convert a 1080p mkv to mp4 format and it will play with no issues. or converting, i suggest DVDCatalyst.
See, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 states 1080p video playback
I wonder is there any meaning the video playback ability of GT10.1
has overpower to Xoom?
BTW I personally hate converting.
My ideal Tab is a replacement for netbook,
which with proper software and codec
almost nothing it won't play.
So if there's something tablet is incapable of
please let me know.
Thanks for all your replies, they really make a difference.
All the tegra 2 tablets are similar software wise.
The 10.1 won't play videos any better than the xoom. Return your android tablet if you expect it to replace windows.
I've surveyed many of the players on the Android market yesterday,
and most won't play a 720p x264 Mkv with ac3.
Best is qqplayer. Next best is vplayer, but really it can't either,
So only qqplayer. If anyone knows better, please speak up.
Otherwise, use plex it is the best transcoding streaming player around..
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Galaxy Tab 10.1 can play 1080 video formats?
Sent from my GT-I9000B
Using Moboplayer (from market) with Tiamat 2.2, 1080p video will just about play, but its not ideal.
720p is fine.
I only play file resolutions up to 720p on the Xoom because of the native resolution. I use Mobo player for my .avi and DVD Catalyst converted .mp4 files but if I am in a rush and have a high bit rate 720p .mkv file, the Dice player plays everything I throw at it. I have monitored my usage of both and I really mainly use Mobo. Dice comes in handy when I just don't want to wait for a conversion because I am heading out on short notice and is the only player I have found to play high bit rate 720p .mkv x.264 files. I prefer converting because I can give the video files a color boost in DVD Catalyst since videos seem to lose their punch on the Xoom screen.
Dice player plays 720p no prob
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bluenote73 said:
I've surveyed many of the players on the Android market yesterday,
and most won't play a 720p x264 Mkv with ac3.
Best is qqplayer. Next best is vplayer, but really it can't either,
So only qqplayer. If anyone knows better, please speak up.
Otherwise, use plex it is the best transcoding streaming player around..
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I've had good results with BSPlayer.
One thing is beyond my understanding.
My past Samsung infuse with 1.2ghz single core processor was able to play 1080p itunes trailers but xoom tablet struggles.
Also Xoom has native support for .mp4 files and .mov/.mkv/.avi requires extra treatment whether extra player or software decoding.
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on a general note (covers most mobiles and tablets and/or android os)
why companies release crippled products to market?
The end user is left to work out what is working and what is not.
Xoom is upper range product and it is not acceptable that it can't play 1080p files smoothly.
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One thing is beyond my understanding.
My past Samsung infuse with 1.2ghz single core processor was able to play 1080p itunes trailers but xoom tablet struggles.
Also Xoom has native support for .mp4 files and .mov/.mkv/.avi requires extra treatment whether extra player or software decoding.
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on a general note (covers most mobiles and tablets and/or android os)
why companies release crippled products to market?
The end user is left to work out what is working and what is not.
Xoom is upper range product and it is not acceptable that it can't play 1080p files smoothly.
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The Xoom does play 1080p but how well depends on the codec and player. As for why you would want to play 1080p videos on a 720p screen, I just can't comprehend. It will not look better because the screen resolution is lower than 1080p. If you played 1080p on any screen lower than 1920x1080 pixels you will not be getting the benefit of the 1080p resolution.
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The Xoom does play 1080p but how well depends on the codec and player. As for why you would want to play 1080p videos on a 720p screen, I just can't comprehend. It will not look better because the screen resolution is lower than 1080p. If you played 1080p on any screen lower than 1920x1080 pixels you will not be getting the benefit of the 1080p resolution.
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And the Downscaling? Don't have it?
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And the Downscaling? Don't have it?
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If you must keep the resolution at 1080p then the best thing for stutter free playback is at least convert into an .mp4 which DVD Catalyst does but again, there will not be noticeable quality increase over a 720p. If I had a 1080p .mkv that I wanted to play on the Xoom, that would be one of the times when I would prefer convert or downsize but for everything else including 720p .mkv, we no longer need to convert.
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If you must keep the resolution at 1080p then the best thing for stutter free playback is at least convert into an .mp4 which DVD Catalyst does but again, there will not be noticeable quality increase over a 720p. If I had a 1080p .mkv that I wanted to play on the Xoom, that would be one of the times when I would prefer convert or downsize but for everything else including 720p .mkv, we no longer need to convert.
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From my perspective you are badly missing the point - what use is a tablet that can play videos if you have to carry around a pc to convert them first. Its a pain in the butt.
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I use Dice Player to play all my video. It is easily the best HD movie player out there and plays high profile 720p but I haven't tried 1080p. As I don't have a 1080p TV, there's no need. Check out the Dice Player trial.
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From my perspective you are badly missing the point - what use is a tablet that can play videos if you have to carry around a pc to convert them first. Its a pain in the butt.
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Thats just the thing though, we need to be realistic. You don't have to convert any videos other than high bit rate 1080p which even if you were only using a desktop PC you would need to meet a system requirement to play. Tablets like these are new. Could you imagine a few years ago having a 1Ghz laptop with 1GB of RAM and being pissed it wont play my 1080p movie in 3D? The Xoom is one of the first of it's kind and was never designed to play high bit rate 1080p and you find that a bother. It's like buying an Ipod 8 yrs ago then saying what good is this if all my CD's wont play on it. You had to rip & convert everything or buy the file which was still then converted. The screen is 720p. Most shows on T.V. are 720p or upscaled 720p (1080i). Where are you getting 1080p videos from, Blu Ray and digital copies which all need to be 'converted' in order to become a portable file on any system unless you have a disc player or made a 20GB image rip. Its not a pain in the butt to have to only convert one file type. My laptop is very powerful but cant play movies in 3D yet my T.V. can, should I be upset? I should add, Dice player is still the way to go to play all files with no conversion unless you want to play high bit rate 1080p on a screen not designed for it.
Xoom USA Wi-Fi version.
Installed rooted stock 3.2.1.
Kernel Rogue 1.4.3 Rana.
My problem is I got it MAINLY for watching videos, and I can't seem to get it to play 720p videos smoothly.
Tried playing 720p directly, tried re-encoding from 1080p and 720p using Xilisoft Video Converter (chose Motorola Xoom H.264 profile), tried re-encoding from 1080p and 720p using Handbrake and recommended user-presets.xml containing Xoom video settings etc.
It does play 1280x720p with hardware decoding, but, depending on the video, it stutters for an instant now and then.
Comparing to playing a file on the PC, or laptop, or DVD player, or blu-ray player, or my WD HD Live media player, it's NOT as smooth, i.e. I do notice those "stops" and they drive me nuts.
Should I wait for ICS or change some settings or simply sell the tablet?
Thanks.
This has been addressed a few times already but I will try to give an answer. Yes the Xoom can play 720p videos. The most important factors being what format and which player you use. I personally use Dice player which plays all my 720p videos with no conversion needed however if you must convert, DVD Catalyst does a stellar job. I have played 720p movies files in .mkv and .avi format on Dice player ranging in size from 2GB to 4GB with no issue. The only setting change I made in Dice was to have the stock player handle .mp4. I have used the stock player to play 720p .mp4 files with no issue. Use the search function to find the threads explaining how others are doing it.
Thanks, I'll try again.
Tried RockPlayer, MoboPlayer, VitalPlayer so far - same
And I did use the setting for 720p recommended by others.
http://dev.tonic1394.com/2011/04/video-playback-on-motorola-xoom/
The stuttering was still there...
Try Dice Player. What video size/format are you trying to play?
1280x720 X.264
I'll try the Dice Player, thanks.
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Xoom USA Wi-Fi version.
Installed rooted stock 3.2.1.
Kernel Rogue 1.4.3 Rana.
My problem is I got it MAINLY for watching videos, and I can't seem to get it to play 720p videos smoothly.
Tried playing 720p directly, tried re-encoding from 1080p and 720p using Xilisoft Video Converter (chose Motorola Xoom H.264 profile), tried re-encoding from 1080p and 720p using Handbrake and recommended user-presets.xml containing Xoom video settings etc.
It does play 1280x720p with hardware decoding, but, depending on the video, it stutters for an instant now and then.
Comparing to playing a file on the PC, or laptop, or DVD player, or blu-ray player, or my WD HD Live media player, it's NOT as smooth, i.e. I do notice those "stops" and they drive me nuts.
Should I wait for ICS or change some settings or simply sell the tablet?
Thanks.
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You could also experiment with the ICS alpha build--it's very stable on nightly version 17--and plays videos very well. Read the Team Eos nightly thread in development for more information.
Yes, I thought I wasn't going to sell until at least seeing how it worked on the final ICS for Xoom...not sure I'm willing to play around with the nightlies though, but thanks for pointing that out
BSPlayer, the older version (check the thread in the XOOM App section for the APKs), works great too. Especially since it doesn't try to sell you the program every few seconds while watching videos.
For best results with any player, make sure to use baseline profile when x264 encoding. No B-Frames or weighted P-frames.
What's really funny I encoded The Guard in 1080p to 720p, due to wider screen the end result (keeping the ratio) is like 1280 by 514 or so.
So I used these settings:
http://www.notionaddicts.com/forums/showthread.php/4291-Tegra-2-Friendly-Handbrake-Settings
Also attached a Word doc in case the URL goes bad
So B-frames are there, I repeated the profile one for one.
Guess what? perfectly smooth playing, using MX Video Player 1.5a.
No trial, free, just ad based, but I have Adfree for Android running, so I don't see any ads whatsoever.