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MKV on Desire?

Hi,
I've been searching the net for any information about MKV playback on Android and found this one:
mobilegadgets-review.blogspot.com/2010/04/htc-desire-plays-mkv-divx-videos.html
Can I trust this source? Anyone tried this one?

You can also get the yxplayer from Android Market and I would recommend this.
But I don't know whether it has mkv playback. The only tool I know is called "RockPlayerBase" which is able to play mkv but not very smooth (averaged 16 fps on my Desire). I assume, you can get this tool from here... anywhere^^ just search.
I hope, I could help you. Correct me, if I'm wrong

16 fps doesn't sound too promising.. Thanks for advice though

16fps if you are lucky! more like 5 most of the time. I think the rockplayer is a software player so its using just the brute force of the CPU. Thats not bad considering most Atom based netbooks cant play MKVs smoothly without an HD decoder card...
Maybe one day we will get some hardware assistance..

Not sure if this will help at all, but mkv2vob converts mkv files to either vob or mpeg, and does it very quickly. (I don't normally recommend conversion apps as they're usually really slow.)
If either vob or mpeg will play better then I really would recommend giving it a try.
http://www.mkv2vob.com/showthread.php?tid=1
Also highly recommended for PS3 users who want to watch mkv files

Try RockPlayer. It's awesome.

ledaz said:
Hi,
I've been searching the net for any information about MKV playback on Android and found this one:
mobilegadgets-review.blogspot.com/2010/04/htc-desire-plays-mkv-divx-videos.html
Can I trust this source? Anyone tried this one?
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That is yxflash and an old version at that a newer one is available in market works a treat for all i throw at it
Also using RockPlayer aka: DemoPlayer

Considering time wasted converting files and saving space, when viewing movies, better idea is to stick with divx/xvid/h.264?

There's nothing that currently plays MKVs properly in all I've tried incl. the aforementioned apps. The RockPlayerBase cannot play H.264 vids. It will however play XviD/DivX totally fine upto VGA resolution (plays upto 1.2Mbps VGA vids fine that I've tested).
Act 1 player, Meridian, the stock player - all play H.264 vids perfectly. HD 720p vids at that, and in some vids, upto 10Mbps plays well. But they don't play AVIs or MKVs.
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th3 said:
There's nothing that currently plays MKVs properly in all I've tried incl. the aforementioned apps. The RockPlayerBase cannot play H.264 vids. It will however play XviD/DivX totally fine upto VGA resolution (plays upto 1.2Mbps VGA vids fine that I've tested).
Act 1 player, Meridian, the stock player - all play H.264 vids perfectly. HD 720p vids at that, and in some vids, upto 10Mbps plays well. But they don't play AVIs or MKVs.
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Plays 1.5 MBPS full WVGA videos just fine, too. And you can just use Rock for XviD/DivX/MKV/AVIs and Stock for H.264. Don't be a lazy bum
Afaik, you can't set different default programs for different video file extensions. All types of videos are Videos.

Plays 1.5 MBPS full WVGA videos just fine, too. And you can just use Rock for XviD/DivX/MKV/AVIs and Stock for H.264. Don't be a lazy bum
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Then you're getting different results to me there. It doesn't play WVGA with the 4 vids I've tried, all low bitrate DivX. Greater than 480p XviD/DivX, it doesn't play without severe problems. The ~1.5Mbps vids you're referencing are DivX/XviD?
There's format and container. Containers can hold many different format vids. AVI and MKV are just containers.
Do you realize that most MKVs are in the H.264 format which it doesn't play?
And that it plays XviD/DivX format AVIs? Not MSMP4 or MP4 AVIs.
As for H.264: I use Act 1 player... after using it, it's not possible to go back to the stock player
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Try diceplayer
Try diceplayer.
My nexus-1 ( patched libOmxVdec.so )
can play 720p High 3.1 MKV+DTS file flawlessly.
Desire use same AP, i think that desire can play 720p MKV.

I've tried this too,on numerous occasions but with no success :/
I also use RockPlayer But what i do i convert all my Movies (that i watch on my Desire) with Badaboom (Nvidia's official vid converter) to a h264 file in mp4 format,and it plays perfectly [so if u have a nvidia gfx card...i strongly recommend this method,since it's ultra fast ,if u have an Ati,try xvid4psp 5.0+ converter]

Harteg said:
I would really recommend Moboplayer, get it from the market, it plays mkv's just fine on my desire
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I, too, recommend MoboPlayer. It's simple to use and supports embedded subtitles in .mkv files.

Id try arcmedia on the market it always works for me mate and its free
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I also use Moboplayer.
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juami said:
Try diceplayer.
My nexus-1 ( patched libOmxVdec.so )
can play 720p High 3.1 MKV+DTS file flawlessly.
Desire use same AP, i think that desire can play 720p MKV.
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I can confirm this. All solutions above, (rockplayer, mobo etc.) are crap in comparision to diceplayer, (that if you patch your existing lib as suggested).
I previously postet a thread on this in the general section. It really makes the phone to a "almost" perfect hd media player.

Native support for XVID and MKV files??

Is there current support or plans to support XVID and MKV files natively? Ive tried the "Rock Player" and its not very reliable.

mobo player plays avi's very well no jerkiness at all. it plays mkv's pretty well also. as far as natively, i have no clue...

Crimton said:
mobo player plays avi's very well no jerkiness at all. it plays mkv's pretty well also. as far as natively, i have no clue...
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I thought it was established that high profile H264 MKVs (pretty much 90% of what's floating out there) didn't play well on the TF101 because of the Tegra 2's shortcomings?

logic88 said:
I thought it was established that high profile H264 MKVs (pretty much 90% of what's floating out there) didn't play well on the TF101 because of the Tegra 2's shortcomings?
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In 3.1 some of them play but with limited frame rate.

I was hoping for the same thing all the 720p files I have don't work,
It doesn't even see them as a video file,
Bit gutted that I have to convert them,
Strangely the Archos 101 plays all of them fine without any issues,
So not sure what the issue is or if it is codec related as the arches does have a archos cinema plugin installed..

I tried moboplayer and rockplayer at first. And i managed to play MKV's smoothly, but only when started from the gallery. When I open the same mkv directly from moboplayer or rockplayer the movie didn't play smooth at all. So I tried mVideoPlayer. After i installed mVideoPlayer my mkv's play smooth anyway I open them. The best part is that the stockplayer plays MKV's as well (but dosn't have support for subtitles).
But the main problem is that most mkv's have 5.1 sound, this is not supported, you can convert the soundtrack with mkvavi2mp4 or convert the whole movie with handbrake (takes a lot longer).

TouchWiz removed video support?

One of my favourite things about the Tab 10.1 is video format support. My #1 use for the device is watching videos during my morning/afternoon commutes. I download some videos the night before, and drop them onto the SD card in the AM. The Tab was able to play all of the formats I threw at it in 720p no problem, in the stock video player.
The first thing I noticed when I turned on my TouchWiz-updated tablet this morning is that none of the videos on it work. They show up as thumbnails in the gallery and video player, but cannot be played. In Moboplayer, the 720p files struggle because it's now relying on software decoding.
Is anyone having different experiences, or have a work around? I really hope this is not an intended change, or I'm probably going to return it. Too bad as I otherwise really like the update!

The update broke 720p high profile support. 720p baseline still works fine and the difference in image quality is negligible imo.
I hope they fix it in the near future, but as it stands now you either take the improved browser in this TW update, or go back to stock 3.1 or one of the older TW leaks and get 720p high profile support.

That sucks! I am assuming it is a bug and they will fix it.
I apologize for the upcoming noobish question as I'm not particularly familiar with codec's, and don't know the different between baseline and high profiles. I'm assuming I can convert one to the other in one step with handbrake? And would the difference in size be substantial?

duraeas said:
That sucks! I am assuming it is a bug and they will fix it.
I apologize for the upcoming noobish question as I'm not particularly familiar with codec's, and don't know the different between baseline and high profiles. I'm assuming I can convert one to the other in one step with handbrake? And would the difference in size be substantial?
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Yep use handbrake and the baseline profile attached to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
Just queue up your files and walk away. I think the files might end up slightly larger but I'm not 100% sure, either way it isn't a big difference.
I'm also assuming it's a bug as high profile playback was a feature that was added in HC 3.1

DICE player is still able to play my 720p high profile (in a mkv container) smoothly.

sylvesterrr said:
DICE player is still able to play my 720p high profile (in a mkv container) smoothly.
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Interesting... I'll grab it and try when I get home. Do you know if it is designed for the Tegra 2 and using the GPU to decode the video (I'm assuming it is otherwise it should be stuttering)?

duraeas said:
Interesting... I'll grab it and try when I get home. Do you know if it is designed for the Tegra 2 and using the GPU to decode the video (I'm assuming it is otherwise it should be stuttering)?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181938
It states it uses hw acceleration on Tegra2 devices.

all the mp4 vids i had are still playing nicely on mobo player

Can anyone comment on DivX/AVI support?
I picked up my GT10.1 today, and since it supports DivX out of the box, gave some a try. I was disappointed that the picture broke up and pixelated repeatedly on every AVI I tried. So, I installed Mobo Player and tried it in software mode, but got exactly the same results (which surprised me somewhat).
I also have an Asus Transformer, and those AVIs play flawlessly on the TF using Mobo Player in software mode (since Asus didn't add hardware support for DivX).
I'm wondering if this is related somehow to this issue, since my GT10.1 came with Touchwiz.
Regards,
Dave

720p High Profile H264 is indeed broken. Verified in Mobo Player and System Media Player.
How do I know they are high profile? I made them, and because I only encode in high profile via handbrake.
Bummer because the Tegra2 handles 720p High Profile H264 wonderfully prior to this update.

I have 4 video players loaded because the built in video player couldn't play all of the videos that I have loaded. Ironically I have the exact opposite experience of the OP, it now plays all the formats I have loaded.

TabGuy said:
I have 4 video players loaded because the built in video player couldn't play all of the videos that I have loaded. Ironically I have the exact opposite experience of the OP, it now plays all the formats I have loaded.
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Can you tell us which players you use? Do you need all of them? Does one work better (produce better quality) than the others? Thanks.

hoodoomagic said:
The update broke 720p high profile support. 720p baseline still works fine and the difference in image quality is negligible imo.
I hope they fix it in the near future, but as it stands now you either take the improved browser in this TW update, or go back to stock 3.1 or one of the older TW leaks and get 720p high profile support.
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This is extremely disappointing news because one of the things I love about the SGT is the quality of its video playback. My friend has a Xoom and he was blown away when I showed him some hi-def videos I downloaded.
I have a lot of high-def videos I downloaded straight from Vimeo, and they play flawlessly on my SGT without any conversions whatsoever. The thought of having to use Handbrake -- or anything else -- to convert every video I own is not very appealing to me. I hope Samsung fixes this problem.

cameraz said:
Can you tell us which players you use? Do you need all of them? Does one work better (produce better quality) than the others? Thanks.
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I have mVideoPlayer, which I like the best. I also have ES Video Player which comes with the ES File Explorer. And, I also have VPlayer.
VPlayer will play anything I throw at it. I've never had it not play a video. I only downloaded it because it's required by Remote Potato. Remote Potato lets me play Recorded TV from my Windows Media Center cable card tuner.

To be honest, this is sort of souring the update for me. I'll be testing when I get home to confirm there is no problem playing back lower resolution files. Still, I like to keep a few high-def movies on my Tab and don't want to convert them all. I hope this is a very temporary problem, not something that gets fixed for the 3.2 build.

I don't know if this is related, but when I was trying out the new Kies app on my PC with my tab connected over Wifi, it (Kies on the PC) offered to download new codecs when I first tried to transfer a video over to the Tab. My PC shouldn't have needed new codecs since all the video play on my PC.

sylvesterrr said:
DICE player is still able to play my 720p high profile (in a mkv container) smoothly.
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x2, just tried it out and it worked fine with my high profile 720p videos in mkv and m4v.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.dice
Just to add, the TW update apparently fixed ac3 audio playback.

my video players including the stock player play "high profile" m4v and mkv's perfectly

what a dumb thing to do Samsung..

BluesTele said:
my video players including the stock player play "high profile" m4v and mkv's perfectly
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Well, the stockplayer can't play this pixar short movie. At least, it doesn't on my Tab... Dice Player plays it smoothly.
Code:
Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 47.95 (48000/1001) -> 24.00 (24/1)
Input #0, matroska, from 'for.the.birds.2000.720p.bluray.x264-sinners.mkv':
Metadata:
doctype : matroska
Duration: 00:03:25.24, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 640 kb/s
Stream #0.0(eng): Video: h264, yuv420p, 1280x688, PAR 1:1 DAR 80:43, 23.98 fps, 24 tbr, 1k tbn, 47.95 tbc
Stream #0.1: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 640 kb/s

Can it really play 720p video?

Xoom USA Wi-Fi version.
Installed rooted stock 3.2.1.
Kernel Rogue 1.4.3 Rana.
My problem is I got it MAINLY for watching videos, and I can't seem to get it to play 720p videos smoothly.
Tried playing 720p directly, tried re-encoding from 1080p and 720p using Xilisoft Video Converter (chose Motorola Xoom H.264 profile), tried re-encoding from 1080p and 720p using Handbrake and recommended user-presets.xml containing Xoom video settings etc.
It does play 1280x720p with hardware decoding, but, depending on the video, it stutters for an instant now and then.
Comparing to playing a file on the PC, or laptop, or DVD player, or blu-ray player, or my WD HD Live media player, it's NOT as smooth, i.e. I do notice those "stops" and they drive me nuts.
Should I wait for ICS or change some settings or simply sell the tablet?
Thanks.

This has been addressed a few times already but I will try to give an answer. Yes the Xoom can play 720p videos. The most important factors being what format and which player you use. I personally use Dice player which plays all my 720p videos with no conversion needed however if you must convert, DVD Catalyst does a stellar job. I have played 720p movies files in .mkv and .avi format on Dice player ranging in size from 2GB to 4GB with no issue. The only setting change I made in Dice was to have the stock player handle .mp4. I have used the stock player to play 720p .mp4 files with no issue. Use the search function to find the threads explaining how others are doing it.

Thanks, I'll try again.
Tried RockPlayer, MoboPlayer, VitalPlayer so far - same
And I did use the setting for 720p recommended by others.
http://dev.tonic1394.com/2011/04/video-playback-on-motorola-xoom/
The stuttering was still there...

Try Dice Player. What video size/format are you trying to play?

1280x720 X.264
I'll try the Dice Player, thanks.

ali4ek said:
Xoom USA Wi-Fi version.
Installed rooted stock 3.2.1.
Kernel Rogue 1.4.3 Rana.
My problem is I got it MAINLY for watching videos, and I can't seem to get it to play 720p videos smoothly.
Tried playing 720p directly, tried re-encoding from 1080p and 720p using Xilisoft Video Converter (chose Motorola Xoom H.264 profile), tried re-encoding from 1080p and 720p using Handbrake and recommended user-presets.xml containing Xoom video settings etc.
It does play 1280x720p with hardware decoding, but, depending on the video, it stutters for an instant now and then.
Comparing to playing a file on the PC, or laptop, or DVD player, or blu-ray player, or my WD HD Live media player, it's NOT as smooth, i.e. I do notice those "stops" and they drive me nuts.
Should I wait for ICS or change some settings or simply sell the tablet?
Thanks.
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You could also experiment with the ICS alpha build--it's very stable on nightly version 17--and plays videos very well. Read the Team Eos nightly thread in development for more information.

Yes, I thought I wasn't going to sell until at least seeing how it worked on the final ICS for Xoom...not sure I'm willing to play around with the nightlies though, but thanks for pointing that out

BSPlayer, the older version (check the thread in the XOOM App section for the APKs), works great too. Especially since it doesn't try to sell you the program every few seconds while watching videos.
For best results with any player, make sure to use baseline profile when x264 encoding. No B-Frames or weighted P-frames.

What's really funny I encoded The Guard in 1080p to 720p, due to wider screen the end result (keeping the ratio) is like 1280 by 514 or so.
So I used these settings:
http://www.notionaddicts.com/forums/showthread.php/4291-Tegra-2-Friendly-Handbrake-Settings
Also attached a Word doc in case the URL goes bad
So B-frames are there, I repeated the profile one for one.
Guess what? perfectly smooth playing, using MX Video Player 1.5a.
No trial, free, just ad based, but I have Adfree for Android running, so I don't see any ads whatsoever.

Mkv playback

Guys im looking for an app that can play mkv file, which one do u prefer? With hardware acceleration
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emprize said:
Guys im looking for an app that can play mkv file, which one do u prefer? With hardware acceleration
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Mxvideoplayer can play mkv 1080p video with H/W , though it only works with 8-bit video, not 10-bit profile.

randomgent said:
Mxvideoplayer can play mkv 1080p video with H/W , though it only works with 8-bit video, not 10-bit profile.
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how can i check my video is 8 or 10 bit?

emprize said:
how can i check my video is 8 or 10 bit?
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You can check it by going to the video properties on your preferred video player on your pc,im pretty sure most mkv files are 8 bit.

is the 8bit restriction a limitation of the hardware, or of the (mxvideo)player?

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is the 8bit restriction a limitation of the hardware, or of the (mxvideo)player?
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Im not really sure about that but whenever i tried to play 10 bit mkv video on mxvideoplayer with hardware decoding, it gave me a black screen.

Dice
You might want to try Dice player as well, i had loads of mkv rips that would not play audio on other players but dice has never failed me on mkv's

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You might want to try Dice player as well, i had loads of mkv rips that would not play audio on other players but dice has never failed me on mkv's
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I tried dice player it doesnt work. so far mxvideoplayer, dice player and moboplayer doesnt work for 10 bit mkv with H/W.

I'm not sure if there are any players that can play 10bit files at the moment. For general mkv's I've been using Dice Player as it has been able to play all my files on my Asus transformer which other players weren't able to. But since the exynos processor is far superior to the tegra2 I would think any player that has hardware accelerated playback will suffice.
Most recently I've been using BS player as well for playing mkv's stored on my NAS streamed over wifi. This is the only player that seems to be able to play 720p video smoothly over wifi.

Stock Samsung player can't play MKV like Galaxy S and Galaxy SII?!? It's the best HW player for my SII...
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I use MoboPlayer, it can play almost video formats well.
But I also got aneesoft video converter to help me do some conversions when need, and it let me to play HD, and AVCHD videos that shot by HD camcorder smoothly.

Aneesoft? Never heard of that. I'm looking for a .mov converter as the tablet converter had trouble with my .mov files.
Is that the best converter out there?

uncle_buckman said:
Aneesoft? Never heard of that. I'm looking for a .mov converter as the tablet converter had trouble with my .mov files.
Is that the best converter out there?
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Well, aneesoft video converter can convert the .MOV video well for my tablet, it has a special output selection for tablet, so you just need to choose your tablet model as output.

I'll echo the mx player recommendation; I like its rendering options and subtitle support among other things. Lack of hi10p support is a hardware limitation. Video with 10-bit color profiles is just too new and (at least afaik) isn't supported by any current hardware. And of course mobile cpus lack the compute muscle to decode decent-quality x.264 smoothly. So as others have said, transcoding on your computer is your best bet. If you don't know anything about video encoding, try http://hi10ptranscoder.wordpress.com/. It's a simple program for this exact problem.

For me Dice-player had stuttering every 10 secs on some .mkv-files. The stock player doesn't stutter, but it also doesn't support movies with DTS-sound.
MX Player seems to work the best and it also has an option for SW-decoding the sound if a file has DTS-sound. (Have to change it from the default HW-decoding to hear sound.)

No need to worry about 8 or 10 bit - there are NO rips with 10bit of any movies, 720p, 1080p - all are OK...EXCEPT some crazy anime, seen them - I really don't get this 10 bit hype - just some ultra-grainy stuff...

Stock video player can play MKV smoothly , why bother to use another player ?

dreamxp said:
Stock video player can play MKV smoothly , why bother to use another player ?
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Stock player doesnt play audio if the mkv contains DTS track.
MX Video player for me is the best. Without chainging the H/W decoding i just selecting the DTS audio track and plays it perfect.
I have done tests with heavy mkc samples with 20-40MBPS with DTS sound and it plays it so smooth. Smoother than my expensive O2 HMR-2000!
My oldest Galaxy S2 plays them perfect too but with same samples i have some frame drops some times even if i have it at 1.6GHz.
It seems tab 7.7 doesnt have excactly the same cpu/gpu. At papers it is the same. But not in real life. Maybe the memory or the controler or the chipset or the architecture? I dont know.
It plays PERFECT any mkv with DTS and it is an great media player. The only problem is to read NTFS HDD's. Because the fullHD / full length good quality movies is always bigger than 4GB's that the file system of TAB can read.

nectons2000 said:
Stock player doesnt play audio if the mkv contains DTS track.
MX Video player for me is the best. Without chainging the H/W decoding i just selecting the DTS audio track and plays it perfect.
I have done tests with heavy mkc samples with 20-40MBPS with DTS sound and it plays it so smooth. Smoother than my expensive O2 HMR-2000!
My oldest Galaxy S2 plays them perfect too but with same samples i have some frame drops some times even if i have it at 1.6GHz.
It seems tab 7.7 doesnt have excactly the same cpu/gpu. At papers it is the same. But not in real life. Maybe the memory or the controler or the chipset or the architecture? I dont know.
It plays PERFECT any mkv with DTS and it is an great media player. The only problem is to read NTFS HDD's. Because the fullHD / full length good quality movies is always bigger than 4GB's that the file system of TAB can read.
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Ntfssd can read NTFS sdcard, Drive Mount can read OTG NTFS or EXT storage devices. These two app are free in Market.

I would have to chime in and say MX-Video player is the best especially on how it handles video stretching, the stock player cant really cover the entire screen and both dice and mvideo player zooms the image to fit the screen, only MX video player stretches it properly to cover the entire screen, pretty nice if your using a honeybar