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need help: about to smash the phone on the wall

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need help. this is quickly going from my favorite phone to a PIECE OF CRAP I WANT TO SMASH ON THE WALL.
there's a thread i made yesterday. short version after rebooting the phone none of the apps in the sd card were accessible, the phone couldn't mount the sd card, and nothing would install in market. i flashed new roms, restored nandroid backups, nothing would fix the issue. finally narrowed it down to some file on the sd card. deleted all the files from the sd card and restored my last good nandroid and got the phone running, just had to re-install my apps.
i've spent all day installing all my apps (200+). everything was working just fine again. until i decide to reboot the phone. and now I'M BACK TO THE SAME ISSUE. none of the sd card apps work, in settings if i try to unmount the sd card i get a FC, switchpro can't change the mount status (says updating status but never changes the icon, so it's either unmounted or mounted, but wont change it), and nothing will install in the market.
i put back my original memory card (that i used yesterday in my testing) and the phone worked fine again. i installed root explorer (was on sd card, now to the phone). put my memory card back.
i am able to browse the sd card with root explorer. gallery sees the images from the sd card. beautiful widgets sees the skin files in the sd card. but the OS wont run any of my apps that are in the sd card and wont let me install anything.
i'm 100% if i delete all the files from the sd card and boot again, everything will work....but what the hell is causing this? i dont have any experimental/alpha apps that would do any damage after being installed. just a few apps and many games.
from my end it feels like there is a file that gets created at one point, that after rebooting the phone makes it so the phone can't mount the sd card, thus not able to install apps, run sd card apps, etc.
please give me some guidance here. i can't use my phone if i can't isntall apps!!!
i got so pissed almost smashed it
i'm using MetroDroid 1.0, rooted (nand too), customized matted blues theme. keep in mind the problem does not go away with a fresh install of the rom, or with a nand restore of cm6....i'm pretty sure it's down to a file issue within the sd card?

There is a file or app being installed on the sd card that is causing the sd card to corrupt.
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you really need 200 apps?
****, i'd say therein lies the root of your problems...

have you tried installing each app one at a time, and rebootung after each one? Eventually you'll run into the same issue, but at least then you'll know which app is causing it.
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fachadick said:
have you tried installing each app one at a time, and rebootung after each one? Eventually you'll run into the same issue, but at least then you'll know which app is causing it.
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That's a lot of apps to go through to find the culprit.
I would try reformatting your card. Then go about installing your apps again. Besides that I have no idea, could be an app or a retarded lemon of a phone.

^^ what he said... Don't just delete the files on your memory card, format it!

Beejis said:
That's a lot of apps to go through to find the culprit.
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Well, yeah, its also a lot of rebooting - its more of a last resort kind of suggestion. To be used right before throwing it at the wall.
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please smash it PLEASE !!!
200 + apps FFS why in the hell do you need 200 + apps

i forget the apps 2 sd hack, I used to run it on my hero and nothing but issues cause of it

stangdriverdoug said:
There is a file or app being installed on the sd card that is causing the sd card to corrupt.
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that's my latest theory. i'm going to try renaming all the folders in the sd card and rebooting. seeing if i can pinpoint which folder first...then the file
turn said:
you really need 200 apps?
****, i'd say therein lies the root of your problems...
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well according to titanium backup i ahve about 310 apps installed. i have many games, most of which i play. then i have several live wallpapers, widgets, tools, media players, news apps, messaging apps, etc. i have everything organized with app organizer and it doesnt feel like that many.
tek818 said:
^^ what he said... Don't just delete the files on your memory card, format it!
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that's the thing. yesterday i reformatted in-phone and i also formatted in the computer. then put the files back on (made a backup first) and this happened after installing the apps. i think i rebooted maybe 3 times in the process of installing all the apps today. the last reboot was only to test the theory that on MetroDroid data only works if you reboot with Wi-Fi off. so i really wasn't expecting the whole thing to stop working again!
EDIT: where in the memory card exactly are the app files?

XDA will not tolerate this thread. Your profanity is unacceptable and unhealthy to some viewer. Admin please remove this tread and banned this user.

no need for all the pointless swearing. next time post more civil

Unless you have transferred said apps to your SD card they will not show.

yang704 said:
XDA will not tolerate this thread. Your profanity is unacceptable and unhealthy to some viewer. Admin please remove this tread and banned this user.
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really? thank you for your helpful post. i posted a very detailed and civil thread yesterday and where were you with helpful information? nowhere. and where is your helpful information now? nowhere. so why even come in the thread if you're not going to help?
@toast - thanks for editing the OP. i dont usually make the pissed off kind of threads but this time it served its purpose. the last two days i had a very well written, detailed thread explaining everything asking for help. i renamed it several times. bumped it 2-3 times. all i got was two responses. i post this one with profanity in the title and look at how many answers already. some of which seem to be pointing me somewhere right hopefully!
it's very frustrating to see picture threads and mod threads get useful (and useless) comments every minute and threads asking for help (i've seen this happen with my own threads in the past and many others) get ignored. specially considering by the time I get to ask for help i've spent hours trying to fix it on my own and researching before asking here.
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VOODOOTRIP i put back most of the files that were in the memory card prior to reformatting it. anyways i installed all the apps again today after that and haven't reformatted yet (what's the point?) so the apps are in the sd card. just need to figure out how to get the phone to access the card!
EDIT: i renamed all the folders in the sd card (without reformatting or deleting anything) and booted into the phone. was able to mount/unmount the card and install apps from market. so it is a file in there...now to figure out which one!

You can access the card from root exp. or from Astro? ie it's still showing the extension right? When was the last time it was working properly? What rom were you on when it first started happeneing? Have you downloaded any non market apps since then? Are all your roms on current update? You said you have tried both a sense and AOSP rom right?

i was able to narrow it down....it's a file within .androidsecure...so now i have to sort through 131 files in there. but at least there's a light at the end of the tunnel!
with .androidsecure renamed i am able to install apps, mount/unmount. etc. so it's got to be something in there that is loading when the phone loads...i wonder what?
i'll update when i find out in case anyone comes across this problem too.
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You can access the card from root exp. or from Astro? ie it's still showing the extension right? When was the last time it was working properly? What rom were you on when it first started happeneing? Have you downloaded any non market apps since then? Are all your roms on current update? You said you have tried both a sense and AOSP rom right?
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see info above (quickly....yes, no (astro is in sd card), about three days ago, MetroDroid, since then couldn't download/install anything, everything is updated, tried both CM6.0 and this rom. but see above. since problem is a file in the .androidsecure folder, whether i was wiping and going to cm6 or back to sense that file wouldn't be modified by the recovery wipe correct?

I know the problem its the 200 apps or one app not getting along with another app. You are the first person that I have come across that has that many apps 200+ apps is a crazy amount of apps.

jdh10475 said:
I know the problem its the 200 apps or one app not getting along with another app. You are the first person that I have come across that has that many apps 200+ apps is a crazy amount of apps.
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well there are 131 asec files in that folder. so at least 131 apps + the ones on the phone memory.
but why the surprise with the amount of apps? isn't that why we get 16gb and 32gb memory cards?

the problem file was
se.nena.nenamark1-1.asec
for the benchmark NenaMark
that was the last app i had installed before i overclocked my phone into rebooting. and that's when the problems starting. hindsight is always 20/20
new development. i installed another app and rebooted and the same error happened. NenaMark was off from the android_secure folder but i was back to 131 files. i removed some other apps and booted again and everything is fine. so it looks like 130 .asec files are the limit? at 131 files I get the same problem?
moved 130 of the 131 files back and the phone ran fine. put that one file in, and problems came back. removed the file and all is well again.

I was having problems with my phone and once I accidents ran a check disk via win 7 it found and fixed some corruption, also my symptoms went away. In fact even my video recordings loom much better.
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anyone else filled up 8gig card already??

as the title says, i have filled an 8 gig card already and now on a 16 gig and only have 4 gig of that left. i have lots of updates and backups, only 2 roms installed and hardly any music or pics on my card, is this normal?? i have never needed a 16gig before, once we rooted our phone, the files that we used to root, can we remove those from the card or is it necessary to keep them on to stay rooted, i have gotten rid of some bloatware but not all because i dont know exactly what is safe to remove.

Move your back ups to your computer. Get rid of the zip files from your Tom installs because you can just restore through recovery instead of doin a new Tom install
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You can delete all the stuff from your sd card with no side effects to your root status,which rom you are in, apps, etc. The only downside would be that you have no data on the sd card.
I have an 8 gig and have never come close to running out of space. I only have the latest roms out, i have no back ups(i am weird and would much rather do a fresh install everytime), and i only back up contacts to the sd card.
Once youre done with root though, you can delete visonary, the root.sh file or whatever, the recovery.img on the sdcard, etc. with no effects.

viper3ez said:
Move your back ups to your computer. Get rid of the zip files from your Tom installs because you can just restore through recovery instead of doin a new Tom install
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okay, im such a noob, pls explain to me what you mean by Tom?? im sure its something simple but just dont know sorry

Those backups are over a gb a piece. Don't take long if u keep em all

so the backups from my sd card from rom manager i dont need to keep on sd card, they can be saved on pc? how do i backup then if they are not on the card?

Evo got screwed up by putting in a new SD card

i transfered all my data to my new sd card. shut the phone off and put the new card in. booted it. i got a text. tried to reply and wouldnt let me. phone shut off and wouldnt boot. i went into recovery to clear cache and dalvik cache. rebooted and now its like its on a fresh new rom no apps no nothin. but its EXTREMLY SLOW now. 5x slower than my htc hero. and its freaking out.
i tried nand back up.. nothin. i tried everything.. wont stay on long enough for ruu.
so any ideas to help me fix this.

I usually format the new sdcard with the phone. Then I copy onto it, except for lost.dir which does not get over written.
Use the settings to unmount the sdcard, then reformat it. Copy from the old sdcard on to the new. Hopefully that will do.

ok i will try that in a sec. thank you

Did you get one of those cheap memory cards from China? If so, that may be the problem. I tried one of those cheap SD cards when I first got my phone and it worked all kinda ways messed up while it was in there. Try putting the old card back in. If you see it works with no problems, then it's your SD card.

the phone is still glitched out even with the old card
EDITwilly900wonka after i did that process it worked. probably not a smart move copying the file over as well. i just did a exact copy with all the files. nand .androidsecure and everything else on the lines of movies music and photos

kyhassen said:
the phone is still glitched out even with the old card
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Weird. Try wiping cache and dalvik cache,. If not, hopefully you have a NAND backed up that you can restore to.

Once you get your EVO back up and running I would advise you to run AVG Anti-Virus to speed your phone back up. Also install a custom ROM, this will most defiantly speed up your EVO.

xXViRuSXx said:
Once you get your EVO back up and running I would advise you to run AVG Anti-Virus to speed your phone back up. Also install a custom ROM, this will most defiantly speed up your EVO.
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i been using custom roms. but i was on mikfroyo then myn warm. then MIUI which i loved but it wont accept it now. so im off to something new. i tried koin elite. but that sucked for me...

I made the mistake of putting a blank SD card into my phone then formatting it with the phone. I lost all my apps etc. Even transferring all the files back to the phone didn't fix it. What I found you should do is boot into recovery before you ever boot into the phone. Then format and create the needed partitions, then mount the SD card while in recovery and move the files to the card. Wipe cache and dalvik and reboot. Phone acts like you never changed the card. From my experience its the most problem free method
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Whats the best SD card for the EVO?
Say I want a 16GB card.
Does the evo support class 6 and 10?
Can I then use the MikFroyo A2sd? Or do I need to start with a wipe and a fresh install of MikFroyo?

ive had this happen during an sdcard switch as well. weird since I wasn't using apps2sd. i had to restore my nandroid.
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OneStepAhead said:
ive had this happen during an sdcard switch as well. weird since I wasn't using apps2sd. i had to restore my nandroid.
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it sucks. but oh well.
Nandroid FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

had that problem on my first 2 card switches the realized that what works for me is taking old card out, putting new one in(i do not open anything)just go to format the sd card then put the old one back in plug phone to pc in usb drive and opend my pc hit folder properties on my phones drive and select view hidden files. then copy all the info into my pc. then close all open windows on pc and change my phone back to charging only then unplug turn off the phone and remove and replace sd card with new one, turn on again plug to pc in usb drive and copy all the files i copied into the new sd card and hit replace on all the repeated folders. that method works flawlessly for me every time

Trying to replace 16gb stock sd card with a new 32gb card - having some issues

Okay so I got a new 32gb sd card in, and I'm trying to get converted over to it but I am having some problems.
I mounted my original 16gb card to my PC and copied EVERYTHING over to a folder on the PC. I then attached my 32gb card, formatted it fat32 and copied everything from the folder I made that had the contents of my 16gb card in it.
I booted it and am getting all kinds of FC's - from Swype, to Gmail, etc. I can't even use Gmail actually. So I put my original 16gb card back in place, with nothing done to the files on the card, and I am getting the same FC's on it.
Running ICS SFR 1.2 and Genocide 2.0 if that info is needed. Can anyone give me ideas on how to get this sorted? Thanks!

Journaling on or off? If off, It could just be coincidental that it corrupted as you were switching cards.
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I don't know how to check that.

Try putting new card in fone then format ot w the fone then hook up fone to pc n transfer everything
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I got my original card working mostly okay by going into CWM and restoring system settings. I had done a full backup on 9/27.
The only error I occasionally get is for google framework or some such. At least the phone is usable for now. I will try again tomorrow to convert to the new card.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276217
See this for google framework errors if the persist
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Fire n mage said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276217
See this for google framework errors if the persist
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Thanks - I think I figured it out on my own with the CWM restore.
With the original card in the phone, I booted into CWM, into backup and restore, then advanced backup, then I choose my most recent full CWM backup file, then "restore system"
That got rid of all the Gmail and Swype errors that were the most persistent and obnoxious. I was still getting the google process error once after every reboot. I re-formatted my 32gb sd card and loaded the files I copied onto my PC onto it. It then booted up and only gives the google process error once like the stock card was doing.
I went back into CWM and chose "restore system" again and after it rebooted I get that google process error rarely. Seems like the first time I go into certain apps, but not all of them. Seems like I'm good to go now with a 32gb card in.
Thanks for the replies guys
Edit: Just did the sd card upgrade for my wife's phone. Zero errors at all lol. Works flawlessly for her and we have the same exact ROM, rooted, and Kernel. Oh well, at least that upgrade was easy!

Formatting SD card

I tried to do a search but so many threads came up that it was impossible to read through them.
Lately it seems that all my apps on the SD card are running really laggy. So bad in fact that I get the app has stopped responding error. I'm think that I should reformat the card to clear out crap from previous ROMs and apps. Did you think that will help and what is the process? Copy files to computer then format I got. But what to put back? Do I have to reflash ROM? Reinstall apps? And where does Titanium for in all this? Thanks.
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As long as you have all the apps off the SD card, you should only have things like photos (dcim), downloaded files, maybe a Titanium Backup folder, etc.... basically things you will recognize off the bat that contain actual media or files you want to keep. Otherwise, the apps should fill their stuff back in as needed