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Gorilla fail

Hi all,i just discovered some light scratches on my glass...they are on left side,mostly on "black part",luckily.
I always used a case,microfiber or the (very cheap) plastic case that samsung gave for free after presentation.
It never fell down,just a hit on the bedside table,but it's polished simple wood.
Anyway,is there a way to "fix" it? I hear people saying they put the phone in the pocket with keys and no case,and no scratches at all...that's so sad
I guess i have to deal with it,but still hope for some miracoulus fix...
I'll search for a better case too,it'better

°Dexter° said:
Hi all,i just discovered some light scratches on my glass...they are on left side,mostly on "black part",luckily.
I always used a case,microfiber or the (very cheap) plastic case that samsung gave for free after presentation.
It never fell down,just a hit on the bedside table,but it's polished simple wood.
Anyway,is there a way to "fix" it? I hear people saying they put the phone in the pocket with keys and no case,and no scratches at all...that's so sad
I guess i have to deal with it,but still hope for some miracoulus fix...
I'll search for a better case too,it'better
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It is too late for the scratches, but why don't you protect your screen with a film? There are some excellent products in the market that are almost invisible to the eye and the finger...
Let's don't forget that the SGS screen is scratch resistant, not scratch proof.

I'm not Gorilla glass spoke person, but it's still another plastic with higher durability.
basic physics law still applicable, as long as there is a sudden pressure apply on the glass, there are chances that the screen may cracked / scratched.
we all need to take care of it. I don't think there is any fix you can apply
BS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfT9qfVkVQM
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/859694/banana_cd_scratch_remover/
Tried it once, can't say it worked for me, but probably more compatible with gorilla

Within a week of owning mine I found a nice big scratch down the middle of the screen. Really, really, annoying. I put it in a soft case all the time, only got it out when I used it, so I've no idea where it came from.
Strange thing is when I clean the screen with a microfibre cloth it disappears. Completely! Only to return once I touch it again with my grubby fingers.
There is no fix, and any you do attempt will put you at serious risk of making it worse. Heard nightmare situations where people have used repair kits or toothpaste and it's left a nice big scuff where there was once a tiny scratch.
Got a Martin Fields screen protector on at the moment. Does affect the display quality but not massively, and is a fingerprint and grease magnet, but at least it's protecting the screen, and the scratch is no longer visible.

Great guys, now I have to invest in a screenprotector as well. Doh....

thecresta said:
Within a week of owning mine I found a nice big scratch down the middle of the screen. Really, really, annoying. I put it in a soft case all the time, only got it out when I used it, so I've no idea where it came from.
Strange thing is when I clean the screen with a microfibre cloth it disappears. Completely! Only to return once I touch it again with my grubby fingers.
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You may find that it is from the case, not neccessarily scratching the screen but rubbing it more along that area than the rest. When you touch it the grease from your fingers 'sticks' more or less to that area than the rest, causing it to become visible.

I had a huge scratch on mine so I used the banana trick, 2 days later some ape stole it

^^ lol made my day

The screen is one of the best things abt the device imo! I dont use any screen protector nor case....and it still is spotless! Ive demonstrated to so many people by scratching the display with my car keys....nothing yet maybe i should tone down my demonstrations just a little bit

I abuse my phone unprotected. I already had my fair share of trouble with micro dust on a previous phone using a cover. Nowadays I just trie to remember to only put my sgs in my right pocket.

I guess that thecresta and i have the same scratch-type:it's light and becomes more visible when i swipe over it...the screen gets "dirty" due to skin "oil",the scratch remains clean :|
I'll keep it then,and think about protection...

dont trust gorilla glass, my motorola milestone also had scratches and it has gorilla glass

Soniboy84 said:
Great guys, now I have to invest in a screenprotector as well. Doh....
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Sorry to hear about your scratch. FWIW I have never used a screen protector on any of my iPhone's or the SGS. So far so good. Keep it away from ladies with diamond rings and keep it away from sand. Two biggies that will ruin your day.

opensourcefan said:
Sorry to hear about your scratch. FWIW I have never used a screen protector on any of my iPhone's or the SGS. So far so good. Keep it away from ladies with diamond rings and keep it away from sand. Two biggies that will ruin your day.
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but how do u stop sand from entering your pockets?

Chad_Petree said:
but how do u stop sand from entering your pockets?
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Well dont put you phone in a cloth that went in the sand ...... Still Gorilla glass is the strongest screen that you can find on a phone. Unless you want a crappy but really resistant phone http://www.sonimtech.com/features_xp3quest.php

Does the Samsung Focus Really Have Cornings Gorilla Glass?

I heard that the Samsung Focus had corning gorilla glass and hearing this I decided a screen protector wouldn't be needed (gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch resistant isn't it?). I'm the type of person who takes extra steps to protect his gadgets. I always hold my phone with a firm grip, I have a dedicated pocket for it (no keys or coins with it) and I never drop it. Recently I've noticed some scratches appearing on the front screen of my Focus. Most of them aren't very noticeable, but one in particular can be seen plain as day and is infuriating. Like I said, I don't have anything in my pockets, I've never dropped it and I want to know how these scratches appear on "scratch resistant" glass if nothing but my fingers and cloth are touching it.
If the Focus doesn't have the gorilla glass/gorilla glass isn't scratch resistant I will delete this thread in shame of my lack of knowledge

the zune HD has gorilla glass and I have a zune and a focus. I am reasonably sure the focus isnt gorilla glass, taps like plastic and scratches relatively easy. my zune has very little scratches after 8 months of abuse sharing pockets w/ keys; only one day with my focus in my pocket with my wallet i have scratches.

It does really seem like plastic. Or maybe really thin, versatile glass.

I asked Samsung via twitter on November 9th and they confirmed it
"the Focus does have Gorilla Glass. Thanks for reaching out to us, we're happy to help. ^Sab"

Just found this and it says the Samsung Focus does have gorilla glass.
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/get-to-know-the-samsung-focus-with-windows-phone-7
Is it possible I got a bad unit? Or is it possible Samsung is just using the weakest gorilla glass?
EDIT: Dang, same time post

Samsung claims that the Focus has Gorilla Glass, so I guess you can just take their word for it. The Gorilla Glass might be underneath the plastic layer Samsung used. I think the Vibrant and European Galaxy S are the same way.
Here's a link to Samsung's official site Q&A about the Focus and if you scroll down you'll find that they confirmed it has Gorilla Glass. Click here. Also an official SamsungUSA rep on Twitter confirmed Gorilla Glass when he was asked. Click here.
Also, if you want to see a stress test of the Galaxy S' Gorilla Glass, check out this video (not in English but you get the gist of it). Click here.
I bought a silicone case for it and for now I don't have a screen protector but things are going fine for me. The phone probably isn't bulletproof and considering how thin the Gorilla Glass is on the Focus it will do an exceptional job stopping the usual accidents but it won't stop anything more serious. But since you're an 'extra protection' kind of guy you should just get the screen protector and give yourself some peace of mind lol.

OGCF said:
I bought a silicone case for it and for now I don't have a screen protector but things are going fine for me. The phone probably isn't bulletproof and considering how thin the Gorilla Glass is on the Focus it will do an exceptional job stopping the usual accidents but it won't stop anything more serious. But since you're an 'extra protection' kind of guy you should just get the screen protector and give yourself some peace of mind lol.
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Usually I get a case, but I haven't found anything to appealing yet (I like for my phone to look good). Also I try to keep it in the best condition so when I go to resell it I get maximum value

The screen feels identical withmy Captivate...

yes it is gorilla glass... ive put a few in already and can confirm.. plus i called samsung to be double sure...

huh, okey, guess i am wrong.
But my zune seems like its a lot harder. ive babied my focus and I still get scratches easyer

Raptor550 said:
huh, okey, guess i am wrong.
But my zune seems like its a lot harder. ive babied my focus and I still get scratches easyer
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Exactly. I want to know why that is.

glass scratches.. bottom line..
gorilla glass is just harder to scratch and is a tougher glass overall so it can be made thinner than other glass digitizers...

ErikWithNoC said:
Exactly. I want to know why that is.
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They probably have another layer over the Gorilla glass.
The Focus's screen really feels like plastic. It's just not as solid as, say, the iPhone 4 (which is said to use Gorilla glass for the front.) Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch-proof and you scratched it in a day? Hmm...

I do not have a case or a screen protector on my Focus and don't have a single scratch on the screen and only a few micro scuffs on the plastic battery cover. I am generally careful with my gadgets, but I have carried this phone with me every day since Nov 8th and both of my young children play with it on a regular basis, and still nothing. Thankfully I have not dropped it screen side down on any hard surfaces (knock on wood)!

SA Spyder said:
Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch-proof and you scratched it in a day? Hmm...
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It is not scratch proof.. It is much more scratch resistant... No glass is scratchproof
www.corninggorillaglass.com. Its a good read.

I can tell you from personal experience that a Focus screen will not survive a 3 foot fall on its face to concrete. And it is very very much made of glass.
But it seems relatively scratch resistant : )

Have you guys seen the youtube video of a guy testing out the glass screen of the focus? He's literally stabbing the phone with a screwdriver and smacking it with the handle and there was no scratches on the phone afterwards.

kawgirlval69 said:
It is not scratch proof.. It is much more scratch resistant... No glass is scratchproof
www.corninggorillaglass.com. Its a good read.
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It's supposed to be extremely hard to scratch, even with a razor blade. The iPhone is practically invincible when it comes to keys and the like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkXlriABfOo . It's a good watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8yNh0N2qbs . This video too is essential for discussions like this. Basically, to scratch the iPhone's glass, you need something that's harder than the glass they used. So diamonds might scratch it. Metal, not so much.
If this guy's Samsung Focus's screen went to hell after one pocket session, methinks the Gorilla glass they used was made in Chinese ghettos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eb17SwyDDU
Although this video makes me think that either this guy had a diamond in his pocket or he's extremely unlucky. Or lying...

SA Spyder said:
It's supposed to be extremely hard to scratch, even with a razor blade. The iPhone is practically invincible when it comes to keys and the like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkXlriABfOo . It's a good watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8yNh0N2qbs . This video too is essential for discussions like this. Basically, to scratch the iPhone's glass, you need something that's harder than the glass they used. So diamonds might scratch it. Metal, not so much.
If this guy's Samsung Focus's screen went to hell after one pocket session, methinks the Gorilla glass they used was made in Chinese ghettos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eb17SwyDDU
Although this video makes me think that either this guy had a diamond in his pocket or he's extremely unlucky. Or lying...
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I'm not lying, I have no reason to be. I've also had the phone for about a week (and a half) and I think I might have actually dropped it once on the rubber foot mat of a car, but that was only like a 2 foot drop and it was rubber. I'm still perplexed as to how this scratch got on my Focus. I have some other little "soft" scratches, but those you can't see unless the screen is turned off and its at the right angle. The one I'm referring to is small, but when I use my Focus outside you can notice it (even on the black theme). I tried taking a picture, but it wouldn't come out.
Would it be possible to exchange it for another Focus at AT&T if I'm still in my 30 day trail period?

ErikWithNoC said:
I'm not lying, I have no reason to be. I've also had the phone for about a week (and a half) and I think I might have actually dropped it once on the rubber foot mat of a car, but that was only like a 2 foot drop and it was rubber. I'm still perplexed as to how this scratch got on my Focus. I have some other little "soft" scratches, but those you can't see unless the screen is turned off and its at the right angle. The one I'm referring to is small, but when I use my Focus outside you can notice it (even on the black theme). I tried taking a picture, but it wouldn't come out.
Would it be possible to exchange it for another Focus at AT&T if I'm still in my 30 day trail period?
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You'd have to talk to them, but I doubt it. Usually physical wear and tear isn't really covered. But couldn't you return it and then buy another one?
I'm assuming you got the scratch when the phone landed screen-down on the floor mat of the car. There are usually tiny rocks and some are bound to be more solid than the glass, thus the tiny scratch. So 'unlucky' then, I suppose.

Where are all the "trying to scratch the SGS2 screen with a butcher knife" videos ???

Where are all the "trying to scratch the SGS2 screen with a butcher knife" videos ???
Samsung went to great lenghts to make the screen both scratch resistant, and finger friendly (meaning oil resistant, using a very special coating). They are advocating a non screen-protector use. So, where are all the videos of people showing us it is indeed scratch resistant ?
(to think of it, I haven't seen any durability tests done for the SGS2, which kinds of make you wonder...).

you make one, I am not going to, I already found out the hard way gorilla glass does scratch (luckily not on my sgs2 though)

godutch said:
you make one, I am not going to, I already found out the hard way gorilla glass does scratch (luckily not on my sgs2 though)
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They are not saying the screen can't be scratched, rather not easily. The knife test was always used as a proof that a screen is indeed harder to scratch. But I haven't seen any test like that for the SGS2...
My fear is that the very special coating they put on the screen (the coating that makes it oil-resistant and such a joy to slide your fingers on) IS scratchable, and will not survive a knife test.

That coating must be rubbish, as i think i've rubbed mine off wiping the fingerprints off. everytime i pull it out my pocket now there always a big smudge on it.

Yeah the fingerprint resistant coating scratches VERY easily. There was a thread somewhere here that had a guy posting about trying to remove a scratch with a polishing agent. He did get rid of the scratch but ended up removing the outer coating aswell.

diablous said:
That coating must be rubbish, as i think i've rubbed mine off wiping the fingerprints off. everytime i pull it out my pocket now there always a big smudge on it.
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Second that, i used it the first day without any screen protector and it was smudged all over with fingerprints. My hands were clean, i'm not a car mechanic Next day i bought a screen protector, at least that will protect it from scratches, since i can see my fingerprints with or without a screen protector.

I leave these advance test to more experienced and much more brilliant individuals.

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaNWuGtAaxM

Where is the society for prevention of cruelty to smart phones.
I literally cringed when he went to town with the screw and then the paper cutter.

If Samsung offered free replacement for scratched screens, I would burn my screen protector right now!
Noam23 said:
Samsung went to great lenghts to make the screen both scratch resistant, and finger friendly (meaning oil resistant, using a very special coating). They are advocating a non screen-protector use. So, where are all the videos of people showing us it is indeed scratch resistant ?
(to think of it, I haven't seen any durability tests done for the SGS2, which kinds of make you wonder...).
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skr68 said:
Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaNWuGtAaxM
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Are you kidding me ?
1. He DID scratch it eventually !, look at 3:02 minutes.
2. This is not the S2 device, rather the S1. The S2 has a special oil-resistant coating, which the S1 does not have. There is question whether this new coating is more sensitive to scratch than the Gorilla Glass itself.

Scratch resistant doesn't mean it's scratch proof. Everything can be overcome when countered with the correct amount. Gorilla glass does help preventing scratches but it is not the ultimate armour against scratches.

guess what happens when you drop your S2 face down on a gravel road

I dropped my GS2 on a gravel road from about chest high, glass side down. I picked it up and the screen was completely dusty and horrible looking and I said UhOh. I got a microfiber cloth and wiped off the phone after blowing as much as possible of the screen. Got it all wiped off, and in direct sunlight at every angle, not a single scratch, blemish, pit, nothing lol. I have a slim gel on the phone, but the screen is naked. Whew!

Cool!
Peep peep.

It's called Gorilla Glass for a reason - gorillas are well known for their high resistance to being dropped by humans onto gravel.

I liked that someone experimented with Gorilla Glass

Swore I was going to read chest pains followed by back to back heart attacks until death.
Glad to hear it's ok.

Xero Xenith said:
It's called Gorilla Glass for a reason - gorillas are well known for their high resistance to being dropped by humans onto gravel.
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WINNING ^^

Yeah I decided to forego the cases and the screen protectors after seeing some videos (not produced by screen protector sellers).
I was using Reallook but it got to slimy and even carrying the phone in my pocket with keys, only the plastic edges gets a little nicked. My Captivate's screen never had a scratch and I am the most un anal person when it comes to worrying about scratches on the body of the handset. Under everyday conditions the glass really is scratch resistant and I would say scratch proof in a pocket with keys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dw04tNgpA&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5WRQuvaA4I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVxj6gRYwS0&feature=related

I was expecting more from this thread.
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I've seen reports of screens cracked, so i wouldn't jump for joy just cause someone got lucky and his screen is still intact after dropping the phone. Also reports of scratches on the screen. So i advice people not to start playing football with their SII after reading this thread

Sp1tfire said:
I've seen reports of screens cracked, so i wouldn't jump for joy just cause someone got lucky and his screen is still intact after dropping the phone. Also reports of scratches on the screen. So i advice people not to start playing football with their SII after reading this thread
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+1. Dropping your phone to confirm its.durability is not big or clever.
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yes i got lucky, and could of also put a weak spot in the glass, and the next drop might not be so lucky.

budco2000 said:
yes i got lucky, and could of also put a weak spot in the glass, and the next drop might not be so lucky.
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Gorilla glass is good stuff......The "screen protector" makers are so scared of it they are posting questionable videos on YouTube of how "easy" it is to scratch. "fear" is a great advertising tactic and sells a lot of things. In fact the glass is amazingly resistant to scratching.
I would be more worried about the interior circuitry shock on a drop than the glass.

As long as HTC is in business, the screen protector people will be too. You can look at an HTC screen wrong and scratch it.

You are very lucky. Its a different story if you drop it in the sea or fall in with it in your pocket
Put it this way I've got a very expensive piece of gorilla glass for a coaster. Ohh and a spare battery that I'm too scared to use :-(
I must admit I got a zagg invisishield screen protector and it is awful. Wonder why they bothered ohh try money.
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I dropped a galaxy S1 from about waist high onto concrete. it bounced about 5 times before come to rest face down.
The LCD screen under the glass was cracked into 20 different pieces. But the glass itself - not even a single scratch. You had to hold at it an angle to see the broken lcd pieces. So while the gorilla glass is strong, the screen inside itself is pretty flaky, so dont be droppin it!

iridium84 said:
I dropped a galaxy S1 from about waist high onto concrete. it bounced about 5 times before come to rest face down.
The LCD screen under the glass was cracked into 20 different pieces. But the glass itself - not even a single scratch. You had to hold at it an angle to see the broken lcd pieces. So while the gorilla glass is strong, the screen inside itself is pretty flaky, so dont be droppin it!
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Yeah Thats what I am talking about....The glass is like Pyrex...maybe even stronger. The interior parts are the issue with drops. That's where those thick soft silicone cases help out but I don't care for cases as the ones that could really protect the phone make it too bulky and the thin cases are a waste and only prevent scratches and nicks around the edges. I don;t worry about those. Never used the same phone for more than a couple years if that long. The back cover can be folded in half and if ever needed replaced easily.

Croak said:
As long as HTC is in business, the screen protector people will be too. You can look at an HTC screen wrong and scratch it.
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That's nonsense, they scratch just as easily as the sgs2, I will let you decide how easily that is since most htc devices also use gorilla glass

My S3 does NOT have gorilla glass

ok guys i really need some advice, i have had my phone for 4 days i have been very careful with it waiting for my otterbox case to be sent out. i have not dropped it one time and it has about 6 small scratches on it in which 1 is deep enough to actually feel with my finger nail. i dont keep it near my keys at all and it kept in my side pocket with nothing else touching it. please help
*UPDATE*
Contacted best buy (where i bought the phone) i was told by a best buy rep that i could exchange the phone for another one within the 30 day period
THANK GOD!!!!

If you have a Ghost Armor kiosk by you, i would get their screen protector. I had hairline scratches on my One X, and the Ghost Armor fills in the scratches when they put it on. That should mask it for you.

Maybe you have a ghost that prefers HTC. Yup, like he said, get some ghost armor.
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thats not the point though, gorilla glass is scratch resistant meaning it cant be scratched. there is videos of people on youtube stabbing their s3 with a knife and it not scratching

maybe its suicidal and was trying to cut itself.
Phone has gorilla glass, you came into contact with something to scratch it...even old school screens weren't THAT easy to scratch.
sucks, but be more careful and maybe get a screen protector before making wild accusations.
and since when does scratch resistant mean scratch PROOF ?

curtiscr87 said:
thats not the point though, gorilla glass is scratch resistant meaning it cant be scratched. there is videos of people on youtube stabbing their s3 with a knife and it not scratching
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Scratch resistant does not mean scratch PROOF. Sand will reek havoc on glass screens, gorilla glass included.

Scratch resistant is not scratch proof. Drag anything harder than it across and it will scratch.

its been in my pocket all day..... i dont even live near sand hahaha. i mean should i demand a new one? or just enjoy the scratch for the next 2 years.....

curtiscr87 said:
thats not the point though, gorilla glass is scratch resistant meaning it cant be scratched. there is videos of people on youtube stabbing their s3 with a knife and it not scratching
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So you're saying out of the millions of devices produced, you got the ONE device without gorilla glass? I'd say it's much more likely it came into contact with sand or something similar.
And no, scratch resistant doesn't mean it can't be scratched. It means it's resistant to scratches, not impervious.
edit: wow, beat to the punch super fast lol.

pizz0wn3d said:
So you're saying out of the millions of devices produced, you got the ONE device without gorilla glass? I'd say it's much more likely it came into contact with sand or something similar.
And no, scratch resistant doesn't mean it can't be scratched. It means it's resistant to scratches, not impervious.
edit: wow, beat to the punch super fast lol.
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Sometimes it can be faulty. My Asus Transformer Prime had faulty gorilla glass, even the cleaning cloth that came with it caused scratches. Took it to Best Buy and the CSR who was trying to teach me to use a cleaning cloth scratched the screen. Got it rma'd and not a single scratch after 5 months. Worth the effort to see if you can get it replaced.
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Awesome, so i just got off the phone with samsung and they said they havent had any known issues about this but they have had faulty gorilla glass in the past. She wanted me to send the phone in they would replace it. but i really dont want to not have a phone for 10 business days. im going to contact best buy and see what they can do for me

How the hell could we help?
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I carry my phone in my pocket. I've carried it in my pocket wrapped in a microfiber towel since I got in last Friday. My wife laughed at me as she knows how I am with my electronics. Luckily, my SGP screen protectors showed up today. I got it installed and am glad I was able to make it without any scratches. I know, sick dude.

I'm in the same boat as you. The first day I got my phone I got a scratch about an inch long and I wasn't carrying it around with me or anything cause I didn't activate it. I wanted to get a screen saver before I got it activated. So as soon as sprint gets some in stock I'm gonna take it in and see what they can do for me.

I never used a screen protector with my infuse , I would shove tools in the same pocket , screw drivers , pliers etc... not a single scratch. Though the infuse had gg1. I won't be as careless with my sgs 3 for a while though.
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If you carry a phone in your pocket without protection, you're asking for trouble. You might go a long period of time with no problems, but all it takes is for one day, you have a grain of sand in your pocket and voila...a scratch.

curtiscr87 said:
thats not the point though, gorilla glass is scratch resistant meaning it cant be scratched. there is videos of people on youtube stabbing their s3 with a knife and it not scratching
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I must have not paid attention to English class, cause I swear that being resistant to something doesn't mean it's immune to something...

djkinetic said:
I must have not paid attention to English class, cause I swear that being resistant to something doesn't mean it's immune to something...
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Must have failed Earth Science class/science class as well.
If a object is harder it won't be scratched by a softer object EVER.. But silca in sand is harder then the glass and will scratch it.

Pictures or it didn't happen
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Randomacts said:
Must have failed Earth Science class/science class as well.
If a object is harder it won't be scratched by a softer object EVER.. But silca in sand is harder then the glass and will scratch it.
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but doesnt melted silica make glass?????????????
Mind = blown.... :cyclops::good: