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I have been using my Treo Pro for a couple of months now and have not managed to simply switch it off!?!
When I press the "power" button on the top shortly the screen goes off and when I press it longer only the phone function goes off.
To switch it off completely I need to take out the battery.
Is this a bug or a feature???? Anyway it annoys me...
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fredw_de
fredw_de said:
I have been using my Treo Pro for a couple of months now and have not managed to simply switch it off!?!
When I press the "power" button on the top shortly the screen goes off and when I press it longer only the phone function goes off.
To switch it off completely I need to take out the battery.
Is this a bug or a feature???? Anyway it annoys me...
Cheers
fredw_de
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Yes there is no off, holding the top button is only radio on and off e.g flight mode, thats how it was designed?, great isn't it!!!!
Reset instead of "off"
Yeah, I was a bit concerned about not being able to turn off my Treo completely either. The only way to reset it was to remove the back cover and press the reset button on the back lower left side of the phone. But taking the back cover off over repeatedly - which is somewhat of a pain to do as you may have noticed - could possibly lead to the widely reported cracks in the phone. However, if you remove the stylus and look in the small opening there, you can see the reset button! I unfolded a paper clip and was able to reach the reset button without any difficulty. I've tried to do this with the stylus itself, but I feel it's just slightly too thick to get in there properly without bumping into the rear cover. Windows Mobile tends to need a soft reset every now & then to keep things running smoothly, so hopefully this helps you.
It should also be noted that whenever you do a Sprite backup it will actually restart the phone before and after the backup.
I just do a weekly Sprite backup and haven't had to do a soft reset at all yet.
There is no Treo as far as I know of that had the ability to turn off completely. Probably because they thought that flight modus was enough
To soft reset device is advised to install a small app rather than to take the back cover off every time. This is absolulty the most stupid place to put the reset button. If I take off the cover you might as well pull out the battery instead
I have this POS also! I noticed this inability to power the phone off as well. I was able to power mine off by holding down the top power button then afterwards I held the red end button down untill it turned off. Seems to work, correct me if i'm wrong. I put my treo pro back in the box because i'm selling it asap! This phone has a very nice look and feel but I hate the tiny cramped keyboard and the display is very dull and faded looking. My two biggest gripes which is more than enough for for to deactivate it and go back to one of my other phones... like the touch pro i'm using to type this post. Fare well Palm Treo Pro!
Dull and faded screen?
To each his own I guess. My screen is sharp and so bright I had to crank it way down.
It's weird that you can't simply turn it all the way off. But that does not bother me too much. I want my phone on all the time.
The keyboard is small.....but very usable...IMHO.
I think it's near perfect in size and functionality. The Pre looks sweet but I will be in no hurry to switch over.....I can wait.
I would strongly disagree about the screen being dull and dark, that is crazy to me.
The only time I really ever want or need to shut my phone off is if it about to die and I want to shut my phone off in case I need it in an emergency to make a call. Not being able to do that has been incredibly inconvenient quite often lately. After a heavy day of usage my phone can die now by 7-8pm sometimes earlier. I had to go out and buy an i-go portable charger.
fungflex said:
I would strongly disagree about the screen being dull and dark, that is crazy to me...
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Same here.. ..I seemed that PocketNow received a Pro for a review suffering the same problems.
Can't complain on the screen on my Treo Pro! (It's not as colorful as my Nokia E71, but still good enough..
Power Off
waynebam said:
Yes there is no off, holding the top button is only radio on and off e.g flight mode, thats how it was designed?, great isn't it!!!!
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Yes there is an Off for the Palm Treo
Pull the Battery
While holding the Top power button, Red Button & Green Button all at the same time, Put it back in this is put it into i think its called a Sleep Mode....
Hope this helps
pjogorman said:
Yes there is an Off for the Palm Treo
Pull the Battery
While holding the Top power button, Red Button & Green Button all at the same time, Put it back in this is put it into i think its called a Sleep Mode....
Hope this helps
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hahaha, the only thing left to do is find a third hand ;P
isnt there a poweroffwarning.exe in the windows folder , i know a link to that can turn off my diamond ?
In order to shutdown any Windows at the bottom level there is a call to a function called ExitWindowsEx, which in Windows Mobile 6 the flag EWX_POWEROFF isn't supported.
So in fact the problem of shutting down Treo isn't a problem specific of the device, but with the OS itself. So any Windows Mobile 6 based device will not power off, unless you take out the battery.
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In order to shutdown any Windows at the bottom level there is a call to a function called ExitWindowsEx, which in Windows Mobile 6 the flag EWX_POWEROFF isn't supported.
So in fact the problem of shutting down Treo isn't a problem specific of the device, but with the OS itself. So any Windows Mobile 6 based device will not power off, unless you take out the battery.
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This explains the whole thing !!!
Apparently I have seen my HTC touch shutdown totally with the power button. This I believe is a "feature" with HTC phones. Since TP is actually HTC Panther, wonder if we can implement this...I will try and get an app around this and see what happens.
Go into the comm's menu and turn the phone off. Then lock it by hitting the red button once and hit the button at the top of the phone, left side of top.
Done.
You can turn off a treo pro by doing soft-reset and quickly holding the red, green, and top power buttons simultaneously for 3 seconds. You can also remove and insert the battery and quickly hold those 3 buttons for 3 seconds. You turn it on by pressing the top power button.
OK, it does turn the treo pro off, but I can only turn it on by removing and putting back the battery.
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You can turn off a treo pro by doing soft-reset and quickly holding the red, green, and top power buttons simultaneously for 3 seconds. You can also remove and insert the battery and quickly hold those 3 buttons for 3 seconds. You turn it on by pressing the top power button.
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Any setting/way to make an app or hack for them to stay on for longer? It's so annoying that they turn off!
Oh man, I'm getting REALLY annoyed by that. It's bad enough that you can only turn the screen on to use the phone by using the power button that is in such a stupid position.
I'm really starting to miss the Home button on my iPhone.
Actually any of the 3 hard buttons will wake the phone so you can use vol up and down as well
zDisturbed1 said:
Actually any of the 3 hard buttons will wake the phone so you can use vol up and down as well
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The volume keys aren't waking up mine.
zDisturbed1 said:
Actually any of the 3 hard buttons will wake the phone so you can use vol up and down as well
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you had me excited for a second... Volume keys do not work on mine to wake the phone.
Same only three power lock key worked and I wish there was a setting to have the lights on ask the time screen is on
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SykesAT said:
you had me excited for a second... Volume keys do not work on mine to wake the phone.
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Right. Vol keys don't wake the phone. It would be nice in theory, but adjusting volume (listening to music) with the phone in your pocket would then wake the phone and possibly allow the screen to unlock. I know that's a bit of a stretch, but being a touchscreen right next to your leg.....it could easily happen.
I can't believe there isn't a setting for this. The lights turn off too quickly. There should've been a low-power 'Always On W/Screen' option.
I wish they would've opted for hardware buttons, to be honest. That way, you can at least feel them out in the dark.
I'm new to the Android development scene, but would it be possible for someone to develop a market app to address the issue?
Why did the US carrier phones had the Home button removed.
Now they are incompatible with the regular Galaxy S firmware, and are hard to use in the dark.
Just stupid.
But 4 hard buttons are not a good solution either. A large Home button is.
I like the idea of a single hard button (the N1 trackball, the iPhone home button, the Galaxy S home button), and I agree: it was a stupid decision to remove that button.
ntoxicated said:
Oh man, I'm getting REALLY annoyed by that. It's bad enough that you can only turn the screen on to use the phone by using the power button that is in such a stupid position.
I'm really starting to miss the Home button on my iPhone.
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dude, stop whining like a lil biscuit. the power button as screen on/off method is fabulous and quick. Loving the 4 touch buttons. Yes I understand the lights go off quite quickly but don't worry, i already have and you will also remember their position.
boodies said:
dude, stop whining like a lil biscuit. the power button as screen on/off method is fabulous and quick. Loving the 4 touch buttons. Yes I understand the lights go off quite quickly but don't worry, i already have and you will also remember their position.
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Power Button on top of the phone is more ergonomic.
Big Home Button is also more ergonomic and you don't have to "remember" it.
I think the US carriers wanted space to slap their branding, so they removed the large Home button. Plus, the 4 buttons make it harder to use international firmware, which will likely advance faster than the US-only versions.
Hi all,
i sometimes notice this problem on my omnia 7..
when the screen is turned off and i press the middle button the screen is not turning on.. i have to press it again or press the power button.. anyone experienced this problem?? any idea what can it caused?? I do not have any apps installed..
Thanks..
I have the same, sometimes the middle windows button will not wake the phone up.
When the middle button refuses to wake up the phone the camera button also refuses to wake up the phone and go straight to the camera app. I need to press the power button and then the camera button.
Annoying.
Do you guys know the term "it is a feature" when something in reality is a flaw - well in this case it really is a feature
If the sensors notice that the phone is in a complete dark surrounding it assumes the phone is in a pocket. Therefore it not wakes your screen up and also the camera button will not work. You can test this if you hold your thumb over the sensors next to the speaker strip.
Should your camerabutton not function in a bright setting, it is of course a different situation.
What an easy and clever answer..
Thank you very much.. next time i will think more.. OMNIA 7 rulezzz
Aaaah clever stuff!
Superb thanks
Hello all,
I have a question regarding the Samsung Omnia 7's home button and its responsiveness. I've heard some say that it's not very responsive, and that it takes a few presses for for the device to respond. Is this true? How responsive is the home button?
I've been using it for 2 weeks now and have no problems with the home button
Sometimes I have this issue. Thinking about sending it back for repair if the problem persists/gets worse. Curious fact: If you press hard at the bottom of the device, while pushing the windows-button - it won't react at all.
Make sure that you are not covering the light and proximity sensor..
You can experiment it by placing your hand on top of the phone and press the home button.. You will notice that the screen doesn't turn on!
That was it. Covering the light sensors at the top right disables the home-button. Very understandable given that you don't want it to turn on in your pocket.
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That was it. Covering the light sensors at the top right disables the home-button. Very understandable given that you don't want it to turn on in your pocket.
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But isn't that the point of having a lockscreen? what are the chances of pushing the home button, and sliding up the lockscreen in your pocket?
The power button wakes it up even if the sensors are covered, so it seems having this feature on the home button is an unnecessary annoyance.
For what it's worth...I don't want to have an empty battery just because something in my pocket pressed the home button and the screen lit up.
This feature is good -why should I press the home button when the proximity sensor is being covered?
Sometimes the home button is not responding at all. Only a reboot helps. Anyone with similar problems and a solution? Or is this a wp7-bug.
c2d said:
Sometimes the home button is not responding at all. Only a reboot helps. Anyone with similar problems and a solution? Or is this a wp7-bug.
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Read the posts above.
It's not a bug. The home button will not react if the LIGHT SENSOR is covered. It's designed that way, so if the button is pressed in your pocket your phone won't turn on and waste battery.
Try in a well lit area and do not cover the sensor at the top of the phone. The home button will work exactly the same as the lock button then.
If the sensor is covered, the home button won't react. If it's not, then the home button will.
End of story, moving on...
Gp. said:
Read the posts above.
It's not a bug. The home button will not react if the LIGHT SENSOR is covered. It's designed that way, so if the button is pressed in your pocket your phone won't turn on and waste battery.
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So in theory, if you are in a pitch black room, your home button will not turn on the screen? Don't think so.
........It's not the light sensor, it's the proximity sensor.
Gp. said:
Read the posts above.
It's not a bug. The home button will not react if the LIGHT SENSOR is covered. It's designed that way, so if the button is pressed in your pocket your phone won't turn on and waste battery.
If the sensor is covered, the home button won't react. If it's not, then the home button will.
End of story, moving on...
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Sorry but that is simply not true (so not end of story....) I actually just tried to lay down my phone on a table and then cover the whole top of the phone with my hand (also tried with a piece of thick paper) so the sensor is covered. Then I tried to press the Home button, well it still works on my Omnia 7. I always return to the homescreen or my turned off screen will turn on - even with the sensor in the top covered completely - but what I cant is to scroll in the tiles or anything on the screen (sometimes), seems the sensor disables all my touch on the screen, but not the hardwarebutton Home in the middle - if you dont believe it, I could create a video of it.....
EDIT HERES A VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czRqo8-UEj8
I've had such a problem ... the home button not responding ...
also in conversation I could not hang up call, just a black screen would remain. Only remove the battery worked. when I got the jig, I put the new software and have no further problems
Some of you might have noticed a small amount of lag when you press the homekey. I certainly did, especially coming back to Touchwiz form AOSP based ROMs. Well don't worry, theres a easy way to fix it!
The problem is S-Voice. Notice when you double tap your home button S-Voice will open. Thats where the Lag comes from. The Note II is looking for a second press on the homekey. So sadly, if you still use this feature then im afraid your stuck Sorry, but for those that don't your in luck!
Its simple, open S-Voice and go to -
> Menu (For those of you that don't know how to do this, or are maybe a little stupid, press the menu button - left of the homekey. If you still handle it, I recommend returning your device for a calculator)
> Settings
> Un-tick the 'Open via the home key' option
> ...
> WIN.
Please remember to click the thanks button!
Sorry if someone has already made a thread about this. Couldn't see one anyway.
People that use Go Launcher don't use the home key so much.
We use the one thing I love with Go. We just strike the thumb up.
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I think this is common knowledge in Samsung phones by now. There's something to note...
There's a side effect to to turning off that option:
If you disable "open via home button", then the phone will kick you to the home screen when you press the home button to turn the screen on (before it gets locked.)
In other words,
Say you're reading something, the screen times out and turns off (but not locked yet), you press the home button to turn the screen on again, you are taken to the home screen.
It's an unfortunate side-effect, but seems unavoidable (save for using a different launcher).
So if you press the home button, you are taken to the home screen?
Who knew!!
MohJee said:
I think this is common knowledge in Samsung phones by now. There's something to note...
There's a side effect to to turning off that option:
If you disable "open via home button", then the phone will kick you to the home screen when you press the home button to turn the screen on (before it gets locked.)
In other words,
Say you're reading something, the screen times out and turns off (but not locked yet), you press the home button to turn the screen on again, you are taken to the home screen.
It's an unfortunate side-effect, but seems unavoidable (save for using a different launcher).
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What??? Thats what the home button is meant to do? Isn't it? haha ... I can't see how that is a side effect?
sleebus.jones said:
So if you press the home button, you are taken to the home screen?
Who knew!!
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JustArchiee said:
What??? Thats what the home button is meant to do? Isn't it? haha ... I can't see how that is a side effect?
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Read my post again and try to understand it before you make fun.
Here ill explain again in layman's terms:
*With the open via home button option ticked:
Scenario : when the screen turns off, you press the home button to turn it on, the screen turns on and you're still in the same app where you left off.
*With the open via home button unticked:
Scenario: when the screen turns off, you press the home button to turn it on, the screen turns on and you are kicked from the app you were in back to the home screen.
That's not how it's supposed to work. If the screen turns off, pressing the home button should only turn it on without kicking you back to the home screen.
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thanks, I'm using Nova Launcher and yes it works...
MohJee said:
Read my post again and try to understand it before you make fun.
Here ill explain again in layman's terms:
*With the open via home button option ticked:
Scenario : when the screen turns off, you press the home button to turn it on, the screen turns on and you're still in the same app where you left off.
*With the open via home button unticked:
Scenario: when the screen turns off, you press the home button to turn it on, the screen turns on and you are kicked from the app you were in back to the home screen.
That's not how it's supposed to work. If the screen turns off, pressing the home button should only turn it on without kicking you back to the home screen.
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I see what you mean. I apologise if you thought I was making fun I was not ... Anyway that could be seen as a good and bad thing. The home button is meant to go to ... well home so that does make sense really. It would be nice to have a option for this actually.
MohJee said:
Read my post again and try to understand it before you make fun.
Here ill explain again in layman's terms:
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Ahahaha, who's making fun now?
MohJee said:
*With the open via home button option ticked:
Scenario : when the screen turns off, you press the home button to turn it on, the screen turns on and you're still in the same app where you left off.
*With the open via home button unticked:
Scenario: when the screen turns off, you press the home button to turn it on, the screen turns on and you are kicked from the app you were in back to the home screen.
That's not how it's supposed to work. If the screen turns off, pressing the home button should only turn it on without kicking you back to the home screen.
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Sorry bro, mine doesn't work that way. With the open via home unticked, mine just wakes it up. If I'm in gmail, lock the screen, then hit home to wake it up, I still end up right back in gmail.
All these things are already known guys.
..It does take you to home screen
So you should use the power button to wake up screen. . You will go back to where you were before the screen locked
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pakure said:
All these things are already known guys.
..It does take you to home screen
So you should use the power button to wake up screen. . You will go back to where you were before the screen locked
handwritten from my note 2 (N7100)
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Thanks for that I'm using Nova and mine goes back to home screen, using power button works but isn't as convenient....at least not for an ex iphone user hehe trying to weigh up whether I prefer power button wake up or no lag!
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sleebus.jones said:
Sorry bro, mine doesn't work that way. With the open via home unticked, mine just wakes it up. If I'm in gmail, lock the screen, then hit home to wake it up, I still end up right back in gmail.
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You still don't get it of course the problem doesn't happen if you lock the screen. It only happens if the screen times out automatically by itself and you wake it up before it goes into lock mode.
froidy said:
Thanks for that I'm using Nova and mine goes back to home screen, using power button works but isn't as convenient....at least not for an ex iphone user hehe trying to weigh up whether I prefer power button wake up or no lag!
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Best option for me is to disable the option to get rid of the home button lag, then increase time out to something like 1min,so the screen doesn't time out a lot and the problem gets too annoying.
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This is great thank you for finding this it was getting really annoying lagging all the time :good:
Holy crap I totally forgot note 2 had that s voice. Lol
Jokes aside in rather content with the lag as long as it didn't bring me to home screen when I wake it up sleep though
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Still got the home buttob lag m8 xD
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MohJee said:
I think this is common knowledge in Samsung phones by now. There's something to note...
There's a side effect to to turning off that option:
If you disable "open via home button", then the phone will kick you to the home screen when you press the home button to turn the screen on (before it gets locked.)
In other words,
Say you're reading something, the screen times out and turns off (but not locked yet), you press the home button to turn the screen on again, you are taken to the home screen.
It's an unfortunate side-effect, but seems unavoidable (save for using a different launcher).
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Or you can just set the screen lock time to immediately =)
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Or you can just set the screen lock time to immediately =)
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Then you'd have to unlock the phone every time the screen times out, which is equally as annoying, more so if you have a pin set up to unlock
I can't believe people still use the home button at all, with apps like "swipe pad" where one action takes you from the screen you are on to the app you want.
Set one pad as your launcher if you need homescreen.
Fill the horrid home button with glue for all i care.
JustArchiee said:
I see what you mean. I apologise if you thought I was making fun I was not ... Anyway that could be seen as a good and bad thing. The home button is meant to go to ... well home so that does make sense really. It would be nice to have a option for this actually.
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I turn on the screen using the power button, been used to doing it with samsung galaxy y pro.
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Then you'd have to unlock the phone every time the screen times out, which is equally as annoying, more so if you have a pin set up to unlock
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I only use swipe to unlock so i still think it is better than going back to homescreen