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Sim Cover Gap: Fixed!

seems DerBub and me found the solution to his sim cover problem:
it's definitely a mounting issue!
look at the photos showing the missalignment of his cover:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8833885&postcount=3
this is the result of mounting it like picture one (wrong pressure on the outside of the cover)!
try to mount it as shown on picture two! you need to apply nearly equal pressure to the back side of the cover (where the gap was) and mount it gently!
it IS possible to mount it with OR without gap, that means even if you tried it ten times before and it wont fit, try it again with the method shown in picture 2!!!
even DerBub tried it a couple of times before the cover fitted again (fine) as in delivery condition!
we hope that this information would be usefull for others to fix their gap!
best wishes,
DerBub & tml1504
update:
good to see that this actually really helps some people!

TML1504 said:
seems kid_loco and me found the solution to his sim cover problem:
it's definitely a mounting issue!
look at the photos showing the missalignment of his cover:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8833885&postcount=3
this is the result of mounting it like picture one (wrong pressure on the outside of the cover)!
try to mount it as shown on picture two! you need to apply nearly equal pressure to the back side of the cover (where the gap was) and mount it gently!
it IS possible to mount it with OR without gap, that means even if you tried it ten times before and it wont fit, try it again with the method shown in picture 2!!!
even kid_loco tried it a couple of times before the cover fitted again (fine) as in delivery condition!
we hope that this information would be usefull for others to fix their gap!
best wishes,
kid_loco & tml1504
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Lulz and to think this made so many people panic and go beserke, good finding man thanks for the fix

That always got me when people say it doesn't fit. When you take it out of the box it is a perfect fit, so it has to be the way it is being put back on. It can't magically shrink to now have a gap. Thanks for the tip.

I'm very glad to have this "problem" fixed
As tml1504 wrote I also had this gap problem, even though I've tried to fit the sim cover several times (obviously in a wrong manner).
After fitting the cover in the manner described in pic 2, the cover fits in the way it should fit: even perfectly
regarding tml1504's posting:
pic 1: putting the pressure at the outside (left and right side of the sim cover) causes the ominous gap.
pic 2: just take your phone backwards and push the cover with a smooth equal pressure (3-4 fingers). it is useful to have the thumb at the frontside to stabilise the other 3-4 fingers
best wishes,
DerBub

TML1504 said:
seems kid_loco and me found the solution to his sim cover problem:
it's definitely a mounting issue!
look at the photos showing the missalignment of his cover:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8833885&postcount=3
this is the result of mounting it like picture one (wrong pressure on the outside of the cover)!
try to mount it as shown on picture two! you need to apply nearly equal pressure to the back side of the cover (where the gap was) and mount it gently!
it IS possible to mount it with OR without gap, that means even if you tried it ten times before and it wont fit, try it again with the method shown in picture 2!!!
even kid_loco tried it a couple of times before the cover fitted again (fine) as in delivery condition!
we hope that this information would be usefull for others to fix their gap!
best wishes,
kid_loco & tml1504
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Great info! Thanks very much!
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We hope we were able to be of assistance to you
cheers

I love you guys for this. Just tried it, and it works wonders! Much appreciated.
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You're welcome
Hopefully this hint will help many users!

Excellent tip there, many thanks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819191&page=2
said here you need to apply pressure to back as well as sides as it get the little plastic mounting guides in line, they come as new fine its only when you remove it for the first time and try to get it back on it has a gap

why cant i see picture two?!

This is weird to me because I can't actually put mine on wrong. Even if I squeeze the back cover by the sides as I slide it on, the cover just will not fit at all, it just slides off...
Once the cover is in it's "guide rails" I can push it on with one finger from the very bottom of the phone and it fits right. I still wonder if some phones out there have a dodgy cover or something...

reelist said:
why cant i see picture two?!
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sorry, don't know! i've used standard encoding in photoshop and i think everybody else doesn't have a problem with my pictures...
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I still wonder if some phones out there have a dodgy cover or something...
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perhaps this can be the case, but i think none of them is so "dodged up" that a correct mounting wouldn't be possible. just out of curiosity i tried it with mine (although i don't have any gap so far) and i had been able to mount it in a wise that a gap was the result...
so i would still recommend everybody who has the gap to retry the mounting procedure until it fits!
and for the plastics engineers out there:
with plastic tools for molding machines and a considerably high number of parts it would be more than likely that the tool has more than one cavity, which implies that there are more than one possible "version" of the cover on the market. although they should only differ in the micrometer scale, it WOULD be possible that parts from cavity 1 would fit perfect, but parts from cavity 2 have the mounting issue. i will look again on the inside of my cover and try to find some markers, then we should be ably to identify the different cavity's (if they exist)!
regards,
markus

TML1504 said:
sorry, don't know! i've used standard encoding in photoshop and i think everybody else doesn't have a problem with my pictures...
perhaps this can be the case, but i think none of them is so "dodged up" that a correct mounting wouldn't be possible. just out of curiosity i tried it with mine (although i don't have any gap so far) and i had been able to mount it in a wise that a gap was the result...
so i would still recommend everybody who has the gap to retry the mounting procedure until it fits!
and for the plastics engineers out there:
with plastic tools for molding machines and a considerably high number of parts it would be more than likely that the tool has more than one cavity, which implies that there are more than one possible "version" of the cover on the market. although they should only differ in the micrometer scale, it WOULD be possible that parts from cavity 1 would fit perfect, but parts from cavity 2 have the mounting issue. i will look again on the inside of my cover and try to find some markers, then we should be ably to identify the different cavity's (if they exist)!
regards,
markus
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You are talking about there maybe being different moulds for the covers, yet you have also said that you can put it on a different way and replicate the gap problem, surely that would mean that the chances are there aren't more than 1 cover and it is just down to user error, as I have always thought. There are many people saying that it is bent, kinked, or just doesn't fit, yet if you take it off and put it on the correct way, none of this happens, strange that.

after reading this post I checked the back of my DHD and noticed I had the gap issue - then applied the pic2 method and no gap!
thanks op

LOLOL, is was this that some people were talking about?!!?
I figure at 1st that had to make a little pressure in the center of the cover so that the cover fitted right into the body...

Nice one... worked perfectly ;-)

onesolo said:
LOLOL, is was this that some people were talking about?!!?
I figure at 1st that had to make a little pressure in the center of the cover so that the cover fitted right into the body...
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No this is not what those who were first to recieve the DHD (including me) are talking about. What is being shown here is just plain stupidity. Anybody with half a wit would know how to fit the cover on without a 'bump'. This is not the incorrect fit / gap issue.
Pointless thread, please close

but, I have to say, I still have gap between cover and body, about half milimeter,
and cover is creaky little bit...
:-(
Old HD2 was much hardware better than desire hd

My sim cover is getting loose, when I hold it in landscape mode with the usual 2 finger using the camera posistion i can twist my fingers slightly with barely any force making the cover gap ...anyone else?
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[Q] Screen replacement, leftover piece

Hey! I just replaced a broken screen and it went quite well, aside from the fact that my mic is not really working as it should anymore (it sounds like I am really far away whenever I speak). After the reassembly, I noticed one plastic piece which for the life of me I cannot find a suitable place for. Does anyone know where it is supposed to go?

I've never had that piece loose after replacing my screen (I've gone through 4!!).
The microphone problem seems to be a common problem with screen replacements (judging by xda, other forums and product reviews). I don't know a fix for that, but wanted to let you know it seems to be everyone
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Haha ok, no I haven't been able to spot it n any how-to video or anything so I am completely stumped. Does anyone know if the mic problem is fixable? Been googling a bit without result.
Edit: " end of my woes.
I had the same thing as adam in the end. its the little orange silicon bit that shields the microphone. it fits into the fornt cover near the microphone hole. I accidentally threw it away with the old cover and then had the problem. I had to buy a complete new casing in the edn but it is working fine now.
Chris"
Found this in another thread, but... Hmmm, I know of the three orange parts and I have taken good care of them. None of those are clowe to the mic though, or perhaps I am mixing up the mic with somethng else? Oh well, there was somethng else about a rubber part behind the display, perhaps I'll just stick my rubber thingie in there. Yup.

rakitin said:
Edit: " end of my woes.
I had the same thing as Adam in the end. its the little orange silicon bit that shields the microphone. it fits into the front cover near the microphone hole. I accidentally threw it away with the old cover and then had the problem. I had to buy a complete new casing in the end but it is working fine now.
Chris"
Found this in another thread, but... Hmmm, I know of the three orange parts and I have taken good care of them. None of those are close to the mic though, or perhaps I am mixing up the mic with something else? Oh well, there was something else about a rubber part behind the display, perhaps I'll just stick my rubber thingie in there. Yup.
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I think I know what Chris was referring to, it's a rectangular red/orange silicone.... thing. I'll edit this with link to a video at the time it appears, when I get to a computer that is.
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pk92 said:
I think I know what Chris was referring to, it's a rectangular red/orange silicone.... thing. I'll edit this with link to a video at the time it appears, when I get to a computer that is.
-Sent from my MB525 on Quarx's 2nd boot CM10 [BL7]
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Thank you! I will open it up again tonight and see if I can fix it. Apparently I also managed to cause some problem with the headset since the right earpiece no longer works. Only the left one... Seems like i really shouldnt do these kinds of repair work myself.
Edit: i think I used too much glue a the bottom while fastening the screen and that is why the mic is not working as it should. Just putting it here so others might take t ny consideration if they see this post. Guess the only way to fixit is to buy a new front.

[Q] How to open the Nexus 10?

I want to open my N10 up, but I really don't know how much force to be using to separate the back from the screen (seems like it would require an extreme amount of force).
I have a suction cup attached to the screen, and I have the screw off the back. From there, I assume I would start at a corner and just press it downward to try to get the back off? Should it require a lot of force? Does the back bend, or should it?

Do a search, got to be videos on you tube.
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rbeavers said:
Do a search, got to be videos on you tube.
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Only thing I can find is the PowerMedic teardown, which doesn't explain how much force should be needed still...
I'd rather hear from someone personally how hard it was to open their N10.

espionage724 said:
Only thing I can find is the PowerMedic teardown, which doesn't explain how much force should be needed still...
I'd rather hear from someone personally how hard it was to open their N10.
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Search youtube( google nexus 10 gets clean) shows the rear cover being removed. I couldn't post a link because I don't know how to! Hope it helps if

Lipp24 said:
Search youtube( google nexus 10 gets clean) shows the rear cover being removed. I couldn't post a link because I don't know how to! Hope it helps if
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Found it
Hmm, I'll have to see if I have a separating tool, but that doesn't look like too much force was used at all.

Finally got it open. Was a huge pain to do with a credit card (basically destroyed it mostly), but I started with the top-middle edge, and worked my way around from there. Biggest pain was to get the bottom edge off, but I managed to get that off after a while.
So, I just noticed that my Pogo connection area, there's a pin broken. From left-to-right, it's the 5th pin. Why is this?

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Finally got it open. Was a huge pain to do with a credit card (basically destroyed it mostly), but I started with the top-middle edge, and worked my way around from there. Biggest pain was to get the bottom edge off, but I managed to get that off after a while.
So, I just noticed that my Pogo connection area, there's a pin broken. From left-to-right, it's the 5th pin. Why is this?
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Do you mean on the inside of the N10 there is a pin broken? I looked at those powerbook medic photos which its hard to get an angle on that area, but it didnt look like any of the inside pin connections were missing, so are you saying it looks intentionally not connected/separated?

bigmatty said:
Do you mean on the inside of the N10 there is a pin broken? I looked at those powerbook medic photos which its hard to get an angle on that area, but it didnt look like any of the inside pin connections were missing, so are you saying it looks intentionally not connected/separated?
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It's like a 3-piece system in the Pogo cable area. The N10 shell has the 5 pin area and has metal contact sheets on the inside for those pins. The N10 itself then has strips of metal I think above metal contact points. The strip of metal that should come in-contact on the N10 itself is cut-short on the 5th pin.
Probably not the best explanation though. I think I saw a post on the Pogo cable thread of someone mentioning this.

espionage724 said:
It's like a 3-piece system in the Pogo cable area. The N10 shell has the 5 pin area and has metal contact sheets on the inside for those pins. The N10 itself then has strips of metal I think above metal contact points. The strip of metal that should come in-contact on the N10 itself is cut-short on the 5th pin.
Probably not the best explanation though. I think I saw a post on the Pogo cable thread of someone mentioning this.
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I know there was a post about the pogo charger that included pictures, and in the picture one of the pins was either missing or shaded. the discussion assumed it was missing and gave theorys on why. (all perfectly reasonable as I remember.) BUT I just got a pogo in the mail a couple days ago and, at least this vesion, has all its pins. im guessing there is a couple ways the pogo "port" could be utilized, so a variety of combinations would certainly make sense.
but as for that cut short you're talking about, does it look machine done? like if its a ribbon-like material does the notch made in it look perfectly made such that it was done by machine? or does it look jagged or snagged? if it looks machine made Im sure its intentional. if it looked jagged or snagged Id be concerned that is on accident.
EDIT: i ask/say "ribbon like material" but same basic thought process for me re: metal extensoin posts - does the "cut" look like it was done with some sort of grinding device that would leave the pins as "not sharp" or does it look cut like when you flex metal a bunch and it snaps or if you use wire cutters how it leaves a jagged edge.
/my .02

Trick to opening charging flap

If you notice, the flap tapers almost to a point posteriorly, almost like a tear drop shape
So the tris to get an edge if a fingernail, no matter how short into the back (posterior) left gap and it opens easily.
It's much harder anteriorly (front) because the flap is much thicker versus the back
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I think everyone already noticed this and have little problem with opening the flap.
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Judging from its design, I think that is how it was intended to be opened as analyzed by Samsung.

peolple who do not intend to go swimming with the phone, may as well take it off permanently, given that it's not too hard to remove

Andyokane said:
I think everyone already noticed this and have little problem with opening the flap.
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Nah, people are complaining all over the place that they are having trouble opening the flap, especially males with shorter finger nails. Trick is to use the left back side. Not left front
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eyecon82 said:
Nah, people are complaining all over the place that they are having trouble opening the flap, especially males with shorter finger nails. Trick is to use the left back side. Not left front
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If you are using the left back side then the flap is not properly closed/placed. You should not be able to open the flip using the left back because it is the hinge of the flap and the hinge should go all the way in. Water-resistant feature of the device is reduced with this.

jopat said:
If you are using the left back side then the flap is not properly closed/placed. You should not be able to open the flip using the left back because it is the hinge of the flap and the hinge should go all the way in. Water-resistant feature of the device is reduced with this.
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The hinge is on the right side if you are looking at the phone, not left
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eyecon82 said:
The hinge is on the right side if you are looking at the phone, not left
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Yes,but you did mention left back. I don't know how you will see the left back if you are not looking at the back itself, even if you use a mirror (image is reversed). If you are looking at the front, then you would have said lower left, not left back.

jopat said:
Yes,but you did mention left back. I don't know how you will see the left back if you are not looking at the back itself, even if you use a mirror (image is reversed). If you are looking at the front, then you would have said lower left, not left back.
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lol..are you on drugs?
there are 4 corners to the flap...and when looking at the face of the phone.....front left, front right, back left, back right...not sure where you are getting a mirror from...
im not sure why this is so complicated...

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lol..are you on drugs?
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LoL. You're probably the one on drugs.
eyecon82 said:
front left, front right, back left, back right...not sure where you are getting a mirror from...
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You don't know the difference between front and back and top and bottom. Look at the closed flap itself and tell us that you are seeing its "back". You're too confused in identifying the orientation of the object. Maybe you have a superpower that you can see the back when you are looking at its front?
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im not sure why this is so complicated...
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Because you are too smart to point out your presumed "correct" orientation.

If you hold the phone and look directly at the flap, then top and bottom come into play when describing the orientation of the charging flap
However, if you are looking directly at the screen (which is the point of view I am talking about), The top would then indicate where the speaker grill is and the bottom would indicate where the home button is
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jopat said:
Yes,but you did mention left back. I don't know how you will see the left back if you are not looking at the back itself, even if you use a mirror (image is reversed). If you are looking at the front, then you would have said lower left, not left back.
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whaa??
jopat said:
LoL. You're probably the one on drugs.
You don't know the difference between front and back and top and bottom. Look at the closed flap itself and tell us that you are seeing its "back". You're too confused in identifying the orientation of the object. Maybe you have a superpower that you can see the back when you are looking at its front?
Because you are too smart to point out your presumed "correct" orientation.
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what rabbit-hole did you jump down?
Eyecon is right on in his description of the orientation....
when looking at the phone head-on and describing the flap, the 4 corners are described correctly
the bottom of the flap would indicate the shiny silver plastic part, and the top would indicate the portion that is tucked inside with the rubber gasket on it

eyecon82 said:
lol..are you on drugs?
there are 4 corners to the flap...and when looking at the face of the phone.....front left, front right, back left, back right...not sure where you are getting a mirror from...
im not sure why this is so complicated...
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PCP, shrooms, and acid can do wonders to your orientation. HA!
anyways, thanks for the tip, i always tried prying mine open from the front left instead of the back left which caused difficulties.
now, when opening it from the back left, it is much easier to get my nail underneath to open it :good:

Its REALLY not that difficult to open a flap guys. Fingernail or no fingernail.

Andyokane said:
Its REALLY not that difficult to open a flap guys. Fingernail or no fingernail.
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Indeed. Looking at the bottom of the phone there is a huge gap only on one side, the opposite side to the hinge...left or right depending which way up the screen is. Front or back doesnt even come into it!! Just use the big gap on the other side to the hinge! Crazy there is a thread for this!!
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WestSideDS said:
whaa??
what rabbit-hole did you jump down?
Eyecon is right on in his description of the orientation....
when looking at the phone head-on and describing the flap, the 4 corners are described correctly
the bottom of the flap would indicate the shiny silver plastic part, and the top would indicate the portion that is tucked inside with the rubber gasket on it
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LoL
Are you serious? Then among the 3 of us, I would say that you are definitely the one on drugs. :laugh:
You're saying that he is correct, but you yourself described the flap exactly as I did. he described it as "front" &"back" and you described it same as me "top" & "bottom". :victory:
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eyecon82 said:
If you hold the phone and look directly at the flap, then top and bottom come into play when describing the orientation of the charging flap
However, if you are looking directly at the screen (which is the point of view I am talking about), The top would then indicate where the speaker grill is and the bottom would indicate where the home button is
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You made it confusing again. The speaker grill is at the lower portion of the back. You might be describing the earpiece. But this time it's easier to understand because you mentioned what part you are facing.

Goldie said:
Indeed. Looking at the bottom of the phone there is a huge gap only on one side, the opposite side to the hinge...left or right depending which way up the screen is. Front or back doesnt even come into it!! Just use the big gap on the other side to the hinge! Crazy there is a thread for this!!
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Yes captain obvious. I don't think anyone is opening it at the side where the hinge is.
But what isn't as obvious is opening from back end or front end. I was always trying from the front end of the left hinge and always had issues.
Opening it from the back end as eyecon suggested seems to work much better.
Now I can toss my paperclip I kept on the dresser that I was using to open it
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WestSideDS said:
Yes captain obvious. I don't think anyone is opening it at the side where the hinge is.
But what isn't as obvious is opening from back end or front end. I was always trying from the front end of the left hinge and always had issues.
Opening it from the back end as eyecon suggested seems to work much better.
Now I can toss my paperclip I kept on the dresser that I was using to open it
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Who put ten pence in you? No need for "captain obvious".
I really have no clue what the hell this thread is about. Just open the thing via the huge gap. Not front or back. Just the huge empty bit. If people needed this thread to figure that out i fear for their safety in day to day life!
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jopat said:
You made it confusing again. The speaker grill is at the lower portion of the back. You might be describing the earpiece. But this time it's easier to understand because you mentioned what part you are facing.
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Thanks for falling for my trick. I said that on purpose to see if you really did know what I was talking about and you do.
I mentioned earlier that the orientation I was talking about was looking at the screen, not at the bottom where the flap is
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eyecon82 said:
Thanks for falling for my trick. I said that on purpose to see if you really did know what I was talking about and you do.
I mentioned earlier that the orientation I was talking about was looking at the screen, not at the bottom where the flap is
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LoL. Excuses.
Goldie summarized this thread well.

What is this part??

I can find every part except this one and i dont know its exact function .
The flat cable that is above the camera in this picture can anyone list the part name so i can order another since i bent this one creasing it as you can see and would rather not have to take the phone back apart once i put it together this time.

k1bih said:
I can find every part except this one and i dont know its exact function .
The flat cable that is above the camera in this picture can anyone list the part name so i can order another since i bent this one creasing it as you can see and would rather not have to take the phone back apart once i put it together this time.
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It's the "frame" usually sold with the display assembly. The frame is the structural part that holds everything together.
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It's the "frame" usually sold with the display assembly. The frame is the structural part that holds everything together.
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No bro the flat cable thats above the camera. maybe i should say to the left of the camera in the picture since the picture is sideways

that little silver box on the cable is a microphone, so it would be a microphone cable or "flex" as its called. search ebay for "v20 microphone flex"