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Internal Storage

Hey i was wonder can you like take apart the fascinate and change the internal storage? is it a second sd card inside of it? and if so how would you go about making the files work on another ? clockwork?

It would probably be embedded on to the board itself.
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dialect129 said:
Hey i was wonder can you like take apart the fascinate and change the internal storage? is it a second sd card inside of it? and if so how would you go about making the files work on another ? clockwork?
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I would say firmly that, no, you cannot replace/increase the internal memory on the Fascinate.

well i mean has anybody taken apart the phone yet? lol i was hoping that website that takes apart everything would of so i didnt have to be the first lol

dialect129 said:
well i mean has anybody taken apart the phone yet? lol i was hoping that website that takes apart everything would of so i didnt have to be the first lol
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Whether it has, or hasn't been taken apart by anyone, it's not a common practice to have removable/replaceable memory with these types of devices.
I consider myself a poweruser and have no real need for more internal memory.
You should be ok. You can always App2SD if you're running out of storage space.

well i have the lagfixme.bat until they make something better..by the way does the lag fix make media scan slower or something it takes forever to scan sometimes but anyways. i thought we couldnt app 2 sd until froyo?

dialect129 said:
well i have the lagfixme.bat until they make something better..by the way does the lag fix make media scan slower or something it takes forever to scan sometimes but anyways. i thought we couldnt app 2 sd until froyo?
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No, the media scan is just slow and takes forever in and of itself.
We can't really "app 2 sd" until Froyo.
I'd consider myself a power user as well and I'm only using 214MB of 1.55GB internally. Everything else (music, movies, etc.) I keep on my SD Card, so it isn't too bad.

yea im kind of a messy power user i got files everwhere...but yeah your right...thanks for the input

Once I got all my core appspot that I know ill use on a regular basis I only used about 300 MB of internal memory. Beyond that I use another 100 or so for junk (hypnotoad and the like) I can't imagine anyone needing more than 2 gig during the lifetime of this phone.
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Slow Camera file Saving in Galaxy S II

Hi
I recently compared my galaxy s2 with my friends galaxy s2
I noticed that the camera speed is slow in my phone, i.e when i take photo it takes around 2 seconds more to save the pic and come again for a new shot!
Can anyone please throw some light ... what should i do?
Mine is rooted phone and my friend's is stock phone!

Maybe you have anti shake on..
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No...
switching it off also does not help :-(

It needs to focus first before capturing.. Could you upload a video comparison?
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The internal memore seems to be a little quicker than my memory card, is it possible he is saving to internal memory and you are saving to sd card?
Also it could be your ROM maybe if you are on a custom rom?

i had the same problem, i used to save photos on the device
recently i bought SdCard with Class 10 speed and now i'm saving all my photos and videos on the card.
the speed is crazy! you should try this!

I am saving pics on Internal memory....
Right now i m using 2.3.3 android but with rooted kernel

Try updating to a 2.3.5 rom perhaps ? Mine works flawless, even back with stock 2.3.3
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Should i reinstall the Camera APK
Where can i find original camera.apk for galaxy s2

using a class 6 sdcard here, saving in less then 1 sec.

Guess What i Reset the camera settings and clicked... I saw some improvement

Is your internal SD card full? It might be the case that there is lot of data on internal SD hence it takes time to save a new file there.

atulalvenkar said:
Is your internal SD card full? It might be the case that there is lot of data on internal SD hence it takes time to save a new file there.
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Go to the setting->power saving and uncheck the "system power saving" option.
enjoysss..

Memory Problem

Hey everyone I got an atrix for Christmas and I've already run out of application memory. Is that possible? Also I only have 10 gb of internal storage I don't know where the rest of it went. I'll post a screenshot
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It says you have a gig and a half? You still have a lot of memory
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cannuks76 said:
Hey everyone I got an atrix for Christmas and I've already run out of application memory. Is that possible? Also I only have 10 gb of internal storage I don't know where the rest of it went. I'll post a screenshot
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Yes it is. You have a limited amount of storage for applications. On your phone you have 1.41 GB. Once that is used you have no more room to install apps. Now you also a limited amount for storage for things such as pictures, videos, documents, etc. On your phone it is 10.71 GB. I know what your saying; that is only 12.12 GB. Where is the rest of my 16 GB of internal storage? The other 3.88 GB is where the android OS is stored. It is like a computer. Your harddrive may be 250 GB, but you don't see the full 250 GB because some of the storage space it is hidden since the OS is stored on it.

I didn't think this was possible. How many apps do you have?

Thanks for all the quick response and I think I get it now thank you! And I have about 20-25 apps including shadowgun which is something like 250 MB
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You are messing things:
There are several kinds of memory on your phone:
1. RAM partition- its 1GB, which actually you can use 815 MB.
2. ROM partition- Where the OS is stored. its something about 1-2GB.
3. Osh partition- a partition dedicated to the webtop. about 1GB.
4. Apps partition- Where the apps are installed. about 2 GB.
5. Internal storage partition- Where you store all kind of things, like a HDD in a computer. this memory you see when you connect your device to a computer. you have about 10.7 GB.
6. SD card- additional storage memory. external SD card to enhance your storage. its size depends on how generous you are.
Now, apps are being installed in No 4, and generally the heaviesr apps are something like 50 MB tops. to fill your apps memory you will have to install a whole lot of apps, surely more then 30 apps (for instance I have 140 apps installed, including some really heavy apps like shadowgun, MC3, IGO, World of goo and some other, and my apps memory has 1.14GB of free space).
The 250MB data of shadowgun is located generally in the storage memory,and this can run out on you, if you have a lot of music or movies, after all it has 10 GB which is quite a lot.
In your case it seems that you have plenty of memory avalable, both for apps and for general storage...
Hope it clarified something...
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Changed the word 'Memroy' to 'partition'.
10x matthew5025

Thanks I guess it was a little bug because when I installed space dog it said insufficient memory
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You are messing things:
There are several kinds of memory on your phone:
2. ROM memory- Where the OS is stored. its something about 1-2GB.
3. Osh memory- a partition dedicated to the webtop. about 1GB.
4. Apps memory- Where the apps are installed. about 2 GB.
5. Internal storage memory- Where you store all kind of things, like a HDD in a computer. this memory you see when you connect your device to a computer. you have about 10.7 GB.
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I would avoid using the word memory in these cases, partition is more appropriate.

Improving lag

Evening all. Just wanted to report that I've had good results using the Forever Gone app from the play store to improve lag on my non rooted xt925. It had gotten a bit sluggish lately.
The app essentially "formats" the free space on your ROM memory which seems to restore performance pretty significantly. Made a big difference on my nexus 7 too. It doesn't touch any of your files.
No affiliation, it just got recommended to me and I'm happy with the results. Especially since it doesn't require root.
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nice! thanks for sharing.
will try to use this app too

Good app the only thing is that it takes forever to process all your data..
But thanks for the post
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Oscarpr7 said:
Good app the only thing is that it takes forever to process all your data..
But thanks for the post
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Yeah, it does take a bit of time to do it's thing. Especially if you have a reasonable amount of free space. But it's definitely worth the wait IMHO.
I started it before I went to sleep one night and just let it do it's thing. I'm not sure how long it took on my Razr, but it was probably about 20 minutes on my Nexus 7. Again, definitely worth the wait though.

It takes for my razr hd with 9GB free space about ~40 min
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Giving this a try. Hoping for similar results

Someone tell me how it goes!

What I read from description in playstore: This app cleans already free space on your SDCard similar to writing Nullbytes into the sectors of the SD. No defragmentation.
Every scriptkidd should be able to write an app like this. The purpose of this app is to *hide*/destroy files that were being deleted from your SDCard so that they cannot be recovered by Undelete-/Recovery-Software.
I wonder how someone comes to the conclusion that this app would format and defragment rom memory or increases performance or decreases lags?
Also: Is this app 100% trustable? Nobody can ever know what happens to the data that is being scanned; maybe exaggerating a bit, but who knows if your sdcard-data gets sent to north korea?

sxg75 said:
What I read from description in playstore: This app cleans already free space on your SDCard similar to writing Nullbytes into the sectors of the SD. No defragmentation.
Every scriptkidd should be able to write an app like this. The purpose of this app is to *hide*/destroy files that were being deleted from your SDCard so that they cannot be recovered by Undelete-/Recovery-Software.
I wonder how someone comes to the conclusion that this app would format and defragment rom memory or increases performance or decreases lags?
Also: Is this app 100% trustable? Nobody can ever know what happens to the data that is being scanned; maybe exaggerating a bit, but who knows if your sdcard-data gets sent to north korea?
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It works on the theory that when a file is deleted or moved off your memory it retains data that allows it to be recovered at a later date by a data recovery app. This retained data may slow down the I/O of your memory, creating lag. Remember that solid state memory works differently to optical storage. On an optical HDD or a DVD this type of thing wouldn't have much (any?) benefit. SSDs work differently though.
So what if every "scriptkidd" could write an app like this? How is that helpful to this discussion? I don't understand that comment...
If you don't trust it or don't believe the theory behind it, don't use it. Personally I don't keep stuff on my phone that I would be terribly worried about the North Koreans getting hold of, but I can't speak for others...
Look, at the end of the day, it's not my app. I couldn't care less if you install it or not. I used it and it improved my lag. It's that simple. I thought others might like to hear about that.

It works on the theory that when a file is deleted or moved off your memory it retains data that allows it to be recovered at a later date by a data recovery app. This retained data may slow down the I/O of your memory, creating lag. Remember that solid state memory works differently to optical storage. On an optical HDD or a DVD this type of thing wouldn't have much (any?) benefit. SSDs work differently though.
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Hmm. I guess there is something getting pretty mixed up. Everything that this App is doing is cleaning up some bytes/pointers on either the internal or the external sd card memory (by stuffing the sdard's free space with Nullbyte datafiles).
(Strongly simplifying in nearly 99% of "roms" the Android OS system files reside on the system partitions of *internal memory* and most apps reside on the internal "apps"/"data"-partition. Those partitions are not reachable for "Forever Gone" since it doesn't use root privileges, so these partitions (and it's "empty" memory space) cannot be "optimized" by this app. Therefore it *can not* reduce lag for system-apps like e.g. launchers or standard apps. "Performance Improvements" for whole systems are to be regarded as simple placebo effect - no matter how many fivestars this app achieves on playstore.
There's a *slim chance* that it maybe "kind of" works for Apps that make use of Apps2sd, when those Apps (and their data-files/databases e.g) get stocked/moved unto internal or external sdcard space. Or Apps that make frequent permanent use of internal/external SDCard space like games or navigation programs with offline map files on internal/external SDCard. So that those apps "start faster" or "feel more responsive".
Until there's no empiristically satisfying performance measurements ... it is of course allowed for everyone to "believe" in the magic this app is doing ... but only that.

I tried it too and didn't really see a noticeable difference. Theory being that flash memory has to do a wipe before write which slows it down. By wiping the card ahead of time, checksum would already be zero. As someone pointed out it only does the SD card and not the data partition where most writing happens. It would only help someone with specific SD card issues I think. It could actually make things worse if the app isn't wiping correctly. I would imagine that Android does garbage collection and TRIM but I've never looked to see if any partitions have the discard flag enabled.

sxg75 said:
Hmm. I guess there is something getting pretty mixed up. Everything that this App is doing is cleaning up some bytes/pointers on either the internal or the external sd card memory (by stuffing the sdard's free space with Nullbyte datafiles).
(Strongly simplifying in nearly 99% of "roms" the Android OS system files reside on the system partitions of *internal memory* and most apps reside on the internal "apps"/"data"-partition. Those partitions are not reachable for "Forever Gone" since it doesn't use root privileges, so these partitions (and it's "empty" memory space) cannot be "optimized" by this app. Therefore it *can not* reduce lag for system-apps like e.g. launchers or standard apps. "Performance Improvements" for whole systems are to be regarded as simple placebo effect - no matter how many fivestars this app achieves on playstore.
There's a *slim chance* that it maybe "kind of" works for Apps that make use of Apps2sd, when those Apps (and their data-files/databases e.g) get stocked/moved unto internal or external sdcard space. Or Apps that make frequent permanent use of internal/external SDCard space like games or navigation programs with offline map files on internal/external SDCard. So that those apps "start faster" or "feel more responsive".
Until there's no empiristically satisfying performance measurements ... it is of course allowed for everyone to "believe" in the magic this app is doing ... but only that.
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Look, you're entitled to be skeptical. No dramas. I would agree with your comment that the app obviously can't access the restricted areas of the internal memory. That's pretty clear. But it doesn't claim to do that. The way I see it, any app that accesses free space in the internal memory could potentially see an increase in performance. Anything related to the photo gallery, music, movies, books etc which are all stored in accessible area. Also, I don't know about you, but when I look at the accessible area of my internal memory, most of my apps have created their own folder in there. I don't move any apps to SD, I don't see any point. So I can only assume each app is accessing the accessible internal memory of it's own accord. So whether it makes sense to you or not, many apps are clearly accessing the area of memory in question.
Secondly, of course the Android system and launcher would access the accessible area of the internal memory. They need access to images (wall papers etc), sound files etc etc.
I'm not sure what sort of empirical evidence you're looking for? Should one of the Universities begin a research project on this app? Are there many apps that come scientifically proven?
Again, whether it makes sense to you or not is irrelevant to the whole argument. I can 100% guarantee that this app made a significant improvement to lag issues on my Nexus 7 (not rooted). The difference was very obvious. If you believe it's placebo, great. But I'm happy that my Nexus 7 is performing how it used to in my placebo world. It had become frustratingly laggy lately. The app also made a difference on my Razr HD. Not as much of an improvement as the nexus, but then again, the nexus was much laggier than the razr before hand. If this app is magical, where can I find more magical apps?
I'm not a scientist and I'm not going to perform a peer reviewed experiment on this app. So if you're not keen on apps that aren't scientifically proven, it's probably best to give this one a miss...

larsdennert said:
I tried it too and didn't really see a noticeable difference. Theory being that flash memory has to do a wipe before write which slows it down. By wiping the card ahead of time, checksum would already be zero. As someone pointed out it only does the SD card and not the data partition where most writing happens. It would only help someone with specific SD card issues I think. It could actually make things worse if the app isn't wiping correctly. I would imagine that Android does garbage collection and TRIM but I've never looked to see if any partitions have the discard flag enabled.
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It definitely accesses the accessible partition of the internal memory.

You'd be better off with this to fix lag but you must be rooted.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix

larsdennert said:
You'd be better off with this to fix lag but you must be rooted.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
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There are plenty of solutions for rooted devices. I hadn't come across anything for non rooted devices that actually made a difference until I used this.

richport29 said:
Giving this a try. Hoping for similar results
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Gave it a try, no noticeable difference unfortunately.

For anyone interested, it seems like Android 4.3 has a feature built in which is very similar to the function this app performs. The article refers specifically to the Nexus 7, but it's obviously relevant to pretty much an Android device.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7185/android-43-update-brings-trim-to-all-nexus-devices

I tested this app, and it's really great. But as lobie81 said, android 4.3 do the same thing with the implementation of TRIM
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16gb Nexus 4 only 6gb memory

I have a 16GB Nexus 4, with a few apps etc installed and now have only 6.8GB.
My question is, is it worth moving to Cyanogenmod to get more available memory.
or is there a way to delete some inbuilt files to get more memory.
Also what is the minimum memory the phone will operate on without causing any problems?

Use diskusage to see what's taking up space
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gjjh25 said:
I have a 16GB Nexus 4, with a few apps etc installed and now have only 6.8GB.
My question is, is it worth moving to Cyanogenmod to get more available memory.
or is there a way to delete some inbuilt files to get more memory.
Also what is the minimum memory the phone will operate on without causing any problems?
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minimum memory? There is not a direct science for that. Try slim roms since they cut out a lot of fat out of their roms. Also there are plenty of files that can be removed to save space but you have to do some research and see what you want and dont want. Root explorer is an app that can delete system files if necessary. Slim has it built into their rom.. Not root explorer but similar software