little puzzled any help appreciated - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

ok so i recently picked up a used mytouch 4g. i rooted it and have superuser ability along with rom manager. have tried and think i have installed 3.0.2.4 clockwork recovery. i flashed that multiple times.
however when i try and boot into recovery i merely get to the phone with the red !. am i missing something?
thanks for your time!

kdm212 said:
ok so i recently picked up a used mytouch 4g. i rooted it and have superuser ability along with rom manager. have tried and think i have installed 3.0.2.4 clockwork recovery. i flashed that multiple times.
however when i try and boot into recovery i merely get to the phone with the red !. am i missing something?
thanks for your time!
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does you phone say s-off at the top when you boot into hBoot?

neidlinger said:
does you phone say s-off at the top when you boot into hBoot?
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s-on. however i thought you could still root and flash roms with it on. looks like im wrong?

kdm212 said:
s-on. however i thought you could still root and flash roms with it on. looks like im wrong?
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you are correct in your assumption.
The HTC Glacier and Vision have a security protocol in place that will revert the phone back to a 100% stock fashion every-time you turn off the phone. If you wish to do custom ROMs, recovery images, and radio files you must turn the "s-on" to "s-off".

neidlinger said:
you are correct in your assumption.
The HTC Glacier and Vision have a security protocol in place that will revert the phone back to a 100% stock fashion every-time you turn off the phone. If you wish to do custom ROMs, recovery images, and radio files you must turn the "s-on" to "s-off".
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ok so i did see the thread for s-off yet it seems very intensive. im also assuming theres no other way to get s-off.

kdm212 said:
ok so i did see the thread for s-off yet it seems very intensive. im also assuming theres no other way to get s-off.
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You can try the sh root.sh method.
1a ) download and install VISIONary.apk. Download from here
-Looks like you've done that since you have come this far.
1b) when you run VISIONary make sure both set system to R/W and Run Visionary.sh are both checked.
2) Download the script to the root of your SDcard
This is the file
3) Extract the folder from the .zip and store the folder with it's contents onto the root of the SDcard.
4) Download Terminal emulator from the market
-Link to the market for this app.
5) open the Terminal Emulator and type
Code:
$ su
#
The Dollar Sign " $ " should change to a pound sign " # ". If the Super user program ask for your permission, you'll want to grant it. You're screen should look like the box just above this line.
6 ) Change the directory to the root folder
Code:
# cd /sdcard/root
7) run the script
Code:
# sh root.sh
make sure you do not get any errors.
If you havent you can reboot into hBoot and look for s-off.
i personally used this method to root my phone before i left the t-mobile store when i bought the phone.
I CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IF YOU MESS UP YOUR PHONE. ROOTING ONES PHONE IS SERIOUS BUSINESS AND SHOULDN'T BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. IF YOU SHOULD BLAME ME I WILL LAUGH AND POINT.

neidlinger said:
You can try the sh root.sh method.
1a ) download and install VISIONary.apk.
-Looks like you've done that since you have come this far.
1b) when you run VISIONary make sure both set system to R/W and Run Visionary.sh are both checked.
2) Download the script to the root of your SDcard
This is the file
3) Extract the folder from the .zip and store the folder with it's contents onto the root of the SDcard.
4) Download Terminal emulator from the market
-Link to the market for this app.
5) open the Terminal Emulator and type
Code:
$ su
#
The Dollar Sign " $ " should change to a pound sign " # ". If the Super user program ask for your permission, you'll want to grant it. You're screen should look like the box just above this line.
6 ) Change the directory to the root folder
Code:
# cd /sdcard/root
7) run the script
Code:
# sh root.sh
make sure you do not get any errors.
If you havent you can reboot into hBoot and look for s-off.
i personally used this method to root my phone before i left the t-mobile store when i bought the phone.
I CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IF YOU MESS UP YOUR PHONE. ROOTING ONES PHONE IS SERIOUS BUSINESS AND SHOULDN'T BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. IF YOU SHOULD BLAME ME I WILL LAUGH AND POINT.
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tried that and it does have s-off. thanks! however when i try to boot into recovery im still stuck with the phone and !...
EDIT: /sdcard/root/wpx.ko failed (function not implemented)

kdm212 said:
tried that and it does have s-off. thanks! however when i try to boot into recovery im still stuck with the phone and !...
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After doing the above method you're gonna have to reinstall the recovery from Rom Manager. Watch it carefully do not let the phone sleep (I recommend going to delopment check never sleep while charging and plug it into a charger while it downloads.) You have to pay attention because it will ask for SU permissions when it finishes downloading, and it for some reason only gives you like 3 or 4 seconds instead of the usual ten. If you have already tried installing the recovery you may wanna go to the SU App and make sure that Rom Manager didn't get denied premission which is the default if you do not select Allow fast enough.

got it! thank you very much! cant wait to play with a new rom. any recommendations?

Virtuous Fusion 1.0.6 with sense 3.0/3D is fantastic!. Give it a go.

kdm212 said:
got it! thank you very much! cant wait to play with a new rom. any recommendations?
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Try out a sense rom and non sense to decide which you like best. virtuous fusion 1.0.6 is pretty nice sense rom and cm7 or royalginger are awesome non sense roms.

im going to try both!

kdm212 said:
im going to try both!
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Make sure to do Nandroid Backups prior to flashing new ROMs. And just a fair warning you might want to install the .85 (engineering) hBoot.

what is that hboot all about?

neidlinger said:
Make sure to do Nandroid Backups prior to flashing new ROMs. And just a fair warning you might want to install the .85 (engineering) hBoot.
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Absolutely a great idea, little nerve wracking to make changes to hboot and radio but very worth it. The directions how to do engineering boot loader are in the ultimate s-off sticky. Confusing at first, but after you do it once it gets easier.
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kdm212 said:
what is that hboot all about?
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It's a option that helps prevent bricking the device. Allows you to flash section of to phone's workings
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Shivansh said:
Virtuous Fusion 1.0.6 with sense 3.0/3D is fantastic!. Give it a go.
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+++++100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 BEST ROM I HAVE EVER USED!!!!!
*so far

so first i must thank you all for the help. now the bad, i decided to buy another mytouch 4g. my fiance liked the old one so much that she took it. so now im here with a new one and have nothing but problems.
im running 2.2.1 and seem to be able to root the phone. su icon is on and everything. BUT if i reboot the phone its like i have to start over. im not just temp rooting either. second, i cant get ANY terminal emulator to let me have su access.
visionary, z4root, adb. you name it and i seem to think ive tried it. lol this is unfair, my chicks phone is way better than mine.
any help would be so awesome.

kdm212 said:
so first i must thank you all for the help. now the bad, i decided to buy another mytouch 4g. my fiance liked the old one so much that she took it. so now im here with a new one and have nothing but problems.
im running 2.2.1 and seem to be able to root the phone. su icon is on and everything. BUT if i reboot the phone its like i have to start over. im not just temp rooting either. second, i cant get ANY terminal emulator to let me have su access.
visionary, z4root, adb. you name it and i seem to think ive tried it. lol this is unfair, my chicks phone is way better than mine.
any help would be so awesome.
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Trade phones back so she gets the new one. Problem solved!
Seriously though, some of these phones won't root with visionary root.sh method. Bad news is if it's not working you will need to try gfree method to root which is indicative of a phone with the emmc chip that is considered to be faulty. For more info search for the thread about emmc chips.
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so this is not a rootable phone?

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I Want Permroot, but no go?

Nothing happens when I click "attempt perm root"...absolutely nothing. What the F is going on?
bballcat03 said:
Nothing happens when I click "attempt perm root"...absolutely nothing. What the F is going on?
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You have to follow steps to unlock the bootloader (achieving S-off) before perm root will stick. Read the thread on achieving S-off. Don't do anything you don't fully understand, so read a lot. Afaik visionary does not perm root with one click without first having an unlocked bootloader.
EDIT: Read the resource bible. It's a sticky in the dev forum.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
I have s-off with 0.85.2007...everything works like a charm until I get to the permroot part...nothing happens when I hit it.
bballcat03 said:
I have s-off with 0.85.2007...everything works like a charm until I get to the permroot part...nothing happens when I hit it.
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If you have s-off and you have the eng 2007 bootloader, you're rooted. Make sure you have the superuser app installed to your phone. If not, you can get it from the market. You need it to gain root privileges in apps. If you have superuser you can test root by opening terminal emulator. Type su and hit enter. If you get a root request confirm it. The $ symbol should change to #.
You shouldn't need visionary anymore. Once you confirm root, uninstall it.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
But without doing "permroot" in visionary, it's not permanent, correct? Cause I want it permanent, not temp.
Yes I have superuser installed.
bballcat03 said:
But without doing "permroot" in visionary, it's not permanent, correct? Cause I want it permanent, not temp.
Yes I have superuser installed.
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Try what I said with terminal. If you type su and hit enter, you should see a #. If you do, congrats. Reboot and test terminal su command to see if your root sticks. Visionary won't tell you if you're rooted.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
Ok I redid everything again (without doing "attempt permroot") and did what you said and the $ changed to #...however, when I first did the temp root, and then went into terminal to do the:
- su
- "cd /data/local" etc....it changed from a $ to a # as well then...before I got to the end and rebooted.
So I am permrooted then and can change roms? Why didn't I have to do "attempt permroot" in visionary?
The unlocked.com
Precise...simple..quick...easy...works...
Hope it helps!
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h0wlings0nnets said:
The unlocked.com
Precise...simple..quick...easy...works...
Hope it helps!
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Uh, that's not a website!
Like I said, you were already rooted. When you attempt perm root with Visionary, I don't think it tells you anything. Just make sure your root sticks by rebooting and then typing su in terminal. If you get the #, you can uninstall Visionary.
As for flashing ROMs: You need to flash a new recovery in order to make Nandroid backups and flash ROMs. Clockwork ROM Manager from the market will allow you to flash Clockwork Recovery on your phone. I don't know how much experience you have with flashing ROMs in general, but if you're a novice in any way I wouldn't start changing your system just yet. Read the resource bible, lurk the developer threads, and get a firm grasp on what you are doing. Get familiar with ADB and Fastboot. Be totally confident in your knowledge. You can still brick your phone or at the very least give yourself an unneeded heart attack and hours of troubleshooting sh!t.
Resource Bible
Good luck and congrats on root!
Yeah I am looking at the "how to flash a rom for noobs" thread out of the resource bible...it says "In the hboot menu select recovery and then the phone will restart. You will get a phone with yellow triangle error."
I select recovery and another screen came up regarding the clockwork with a bunch of options, it didn't restart. And when I selected the option that said "reboot" it did, but I didn't get a yellow triangle error
Any ideas there?
Sounds to me you already have Clockwork Recovery installed. You must have done that without knowing it. Beats me. I you go into HBOOT and select Recovery the phone will shut off and boot into recovery mode. If you got Clockwork Recovery version 2.x.x.x (with green typeface), that just means you have Clockwork recovery installed and can flash Froyo based ROMs (like Iced Glacier), make Nandroid backups, and a bunch of other stuff you probably shouldn't mess with.
Just know that you CANNOT flash Gingerbread based ROMs (like CyanogenMod 7) with CW v. 2.x.x.x
You need CW v. 3.x.x.x to use gingy ROMs.
Keep reading.
I PM'd ya, but no when I hboot and hit recovery, it doesn't reboot, it goes to "clockwork mod recovery v2.5.1.2
XfooYen said:
You have to follow steps to unlock the bootloader (achieving S-off) before perm root will stick. Read the thread on achieving S-off. Don't do anything you don't fully understand, so read a lot. Afaik visionary does not perm root with one click without first having an unlocked bootloader.
EDIT: Read the resource bible. It's a sticky in the dev forum.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
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I'm having the same issue as the OP. I'm quoting because I had a permroot stick with s-on on my previous MT4G. (I just had it replaced, damn power button)
Explain please? Why would it work on one but not the other?
I would have posted this in the development forum in the thread that had this technique, but I don't have enough posts yet or something?
Anyway, I have S=off, and visionary temp root works fine. But permroot in visionary r14 doesn't work, it just flashes like the button is pushed then does nothing, like I didn't even hit it. So I need to run the temp root everytime my phone starts up.
I didn't setup the engineer bootloader yet, should I do that?
Does r11 work better?
What is the next step to get permroot to work?

I just can't do this been at it for 8 Hours!!!

Ok, So i've spoke with 2 people from XDA Over the Phone today both tell me to do Sdk However I am not willing to increase the risk of bricking my phone. So please do not suggest sdk,
Here's My issue,
I'm using Visionary 14r I tryed looking for 11 I just can't find it. I've ran the visionary to temp root then went into termenal after temp root was complete (And yes the temp root works I have tested it) and I ran these codes as follows
Su (Works)
cd sdcard/Root (I've done it with both the slash in front as well and witout it so do not try and correct me because it dosen't effect how it runs)
sh root.sh (Runs the kernel)
So I get the exact same thing as what I see on the youtube videos, Then I go back into visionary and run Perm Root and it will reboot my phone and when I go into Termenal and type Su for super user I get access Denied, I have tryed tons of alternatives and I have verifyed that it is 2.2.1, I've tryed Rebooting it and checking to see if S is off and its not, I'm trying to install the ultimate droid rom in it but since I can't get into recovery because of it not being rooted it wont allow me to do anything,. I have copyed the root folder to My sd card at the bottom still wont perm root. ANy tips? or if someone wants to give me a call my numbers 503 438 6765 any help is much appreciated
Really, No one in this "Mytouch 4g Discussion" knows anything about rooting the mytouch?
i got in a battle with mine for 3 days and this is the only method that would work.I just found this tonight and just finished perm rooting/and flashing ice glacier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035278
I also sent the link to your pm
gixer2000 said:
i got in a battle with mine for 3 days and this is the only method that would work.I just found this tonight and just finished perm rooting/and flashing ice glacier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035278
I also sent the link to your pm
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Yeah some phones don't seem to work with the 'traditional' root methods but all seem to work with this method, so I would definitely give it a try.
If you're not comfortable with adb maybe you should just stay away from it altogether and stick to stock >.>
PhantomRampage said:
If you're not comfortable with adb maybe you should just stay away from it altogether and stick to stock >.>
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Why? I'm rooted, installed tons of kernals and roms and have never even had to use ADB... gfree method/Eng bootloader/radio.. all do through recovery and terminal... you just need to read...
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Well it just sounds like he's trying to take the easy way out because he doesn't feel like reading the tutorials. I just wouldn't want him doing something like that later and flashing something that ruins his phone because he couldn't handle reading and following some directions first.
PhantomRampage said:
Well it just sounds like he's trying to take the easy way out because he doesn't feel like reading the tutorials. I just wouldn't want him doing something like that later and flashing something that ruins his phone because he couldn't handle reading and following some directions first.
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+1 sorry
MT4G + CM7 + Faux's BFS LV kernel
I came from the hd2. The adb/gfree method is what it took here. Just read up follow the tutorial ans enjoy this device.
HD2Fanatic said:
Ok, So i've spoke with 2 people from XDA Over the Phone today both tell me to do Sdk However I am not willing to increase the risk of bricking my phone. So please do not suggest sdk,
Here's My issue,
I'm using Visionary 14r I tryed looking for 11 I just can't find it. I've ran the visionary to temp root then went into termenal after temp root was complete (And yes the temp root works I have tested it) and I ran these codes as follows
Su (Works)
cd sdcard/Root (I've done it with both the slash in front as well and witout it so do not try and correct me because it dosen't effect how it runs)
sh root.sh (Runs the kernel)
So I get the exact same thing as what I see on the youtube videos, Then I go back into visionary and run Perm Root and it will reboot my phone and when I go into Termenal and type Su for super user I get access Denied, I have tryed tons of alternatives and I have verifyed that it is 2.2.1, I've tryed Rebooting it and checking to see if S is off and its not, I'm trying to install the ultimate droid rom in it but since I can't get into recovery because of it not being rooted it wont allow me to do anything,. I have copyed the root folder to My sd card at the bottom still wont perm root. ANy tips? or if someone wants to give me a call my numbers 503 438 6765 any help is much appreciated
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I have visionary 11 if you still want it
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First, I've used VISIONary r14 many times on multiple Glaciers without problem. It should work just fine.
Second, setting up the SDK is not hard. Whoever gave you the idea that the SDK increases the risk of bricking your device is a moron. In fact, the SDK comes with some *very* useful tools that can help you recover if your phone starts running into problems. You don't need it to root your device, but it certainly won't hurt to at least install the tools/platform-tools (you don't need the entire SDK if you don't want it).
Third, I suggest using gfree instead of root.sh because it does much more. I also suggest flashing the engineering bootloader (instructions in same thread) so that you can use fastboot (this is one of those SDK tools I was talking about). Be careful when you enter that command or you could really screw yourself.
You Dont need SDK... Just download the EASY ADB as it works just Fine. Visionary R 14 Will give you a Perm Root, just use it with terminal emulator it is Easy. The Eng. Bootloader is a must have. You can also use the g free method either one is fine. Always remember that you can Always go back to stock if needed with the PD15IMG.zip.
i've tried the both the visionary and the gfree way and i think theres something up with the root.sh files or something happened to the roms themselves to not work properly though the gfree version worked 100%. and honestly if your not comfortable with ADB pushing then your going to miss out on alot of stuff for MT4G especially if you want to be cutting edge MT4g.
Switch to sprint and buy am evo
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alainater said:
Switch to sprint and buy am evo
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I logged in just so I could comment on this..it annoyed me that much. Being as I use to have an EVO and Sprint, the myTouch was EASIER to root then the EVO and is over all a much more capable phone once rooted. I used gfree and it was CAKE to root my phone...it is now fully carrier unlocked and basically brick proof due to the EBL 85.2007. I've been on the EVO forums (my roommate has one still and I'm his flasher) and there is a crap load of outdated ROMS and mods that if you aren't careful what you are mixing and matching you will end up with a bootlooped phone. Not the case with the myTouch everything here is kept well up to date and accurate. Not sure why you felt the need to post this but it was unneeded and well off topic.
/rant
OP use gfree ADB is as easy as 123... if you know how to read and type that is. Also you can do gfree via Terminal just place the files on your SD card and type from terminal to that location instead the thread I used had instructions to do it via ADB and Term, so go for it
HD2Fanatic said:
Ok, So i've spoke with 2 people from XDA Over the Phone today both tell me to do Sdk However I am not willing to increase the risk of bricking my phone. So please do not suggest sdk,
Here's My issue,
I'm using Visionary 14r I tryed looking for 11 I just can't find it. I've ran the visionary to temp root then went into termenal after temp root was complete (And yes the temp root works I have tested it) and I ran these codes as follows
Su (Works)
cd sdcard/Root (I've done it with both the slash in front as well and witout it so do not try and correct me because it dosen't effect how it runs)
sh root.sh (Runs the kernel)
So I get the exact same thing as what I see on the youtube videos, Then I go back into visionary and run Perm Root and it will reboot my phone and when I go into Termenal and type Su for super user I get access Denied, I have tryed tons of alternatives and I have verifyed that it is 2.2.1, I've tryed Rebooting it and checking to see if S is off and its not, I'm trying to install the ultimate droid rom in it but since I can't get into recovery because of it not being rooted it wont allow me to do anything,. I have copyed the root folder to My sd card at the bottom still wont perm root. ANy tips? or if someone wants to give me a call my numbers 503 438 6765 any help is much appreciated
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This is best way to root mytouch 4g and the easiest. Just do exactly what it tells you to do and you will be rooted in no time
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
PhantomRampage said:
If you're not comfortable with adb maybe you should just stay away from it altogether and stick to stock >.>
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This plus 1,000,000,0000^100
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alainater said:
Switch to sprint and buy am evo
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Whatever fanboy! It was voted as one of the top five manufactured defective phones, (screen separations) cannot understand why you felt this would help in the thread. if you love your EVO go back to it and those forums!
dcwiker05 said:
I logged in just so I could comment on this..it annoyed me that much. Being as I use to have an EVO and Sprint, the myTouch was EASIER to root then the EVO and is over all a much more capable phone once rooted. I used gfree and it was CAKE to root my phone...it is now fully carrier unlocked and basically brick proof due to the EBL 85.2007. I've been on the EVO forums (my roommate has one still and I'm his flasher) and there is a crap load of outdated ROMS and mods that if you aren't careful what you are mixing and matching you will end up with a bootlooped phone. Not the case with the myTouch everything here is kept well up to date and accurate. Not sure why you felt the need to post this but it was unneeded and well off topic.
/rant
OP use gfree ADB is as easy as 123... if you know how to read and type that is. Also you can do gfree via Terminal just place the files on your SD card and type from terminal to that location instead the thread I used had instructions to do it via ADB and Term, so go for it
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+100,000,000
Mathato said:
Why? I'm rooted, installed tons of kernals and roms and have never even had to use ADB... gfree method/Eng bootloader/radio.. all do through recovery and terminal... you just need to read...
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same here, never had to use adb and hopefully never will

[Q] rom manager doesnt backup or flashes...?

i have a mytouch 4g and im new to the forums and roms but i followed every instruction down to the letter but when i go to backup rom on the rom manager the phone just reboot and i see a phone with a exclamation mark....? help please and thank you
Flash clockwork first. You can do that in Rom manager - first option
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rawdawgroy said:
i have a mytouch 4g and im new to the forums and roms but i followed every instruction down to the letter but when i go to backup rom on the rom manager the phone just reboot and i see a phone with a exclamation mark....? help please and thank you
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That means you haven't installed ClockworkMod recovery yet. First flash that via ROM Manager, and then attempt to make a backup again. I recommend doing it the manual way by booting into recovery mode, rather than by doing it through the ROM Manager app.
TeeJay3800 said:
That means you haven't installed ClockworkMod recovery yet. First flash that via ROM Manager, and then attempt to make a backup again. I recommend doing it the manual way by booting into recovery mode, rather than by doing it through the ROM Manager app.
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I was getting ready to say the same thing.
I got the clockworkmod recovery the phone doesnt let me do anything with out it and it shows up on my memory card when I try to back up it just goes to the screen with the big red exclamation point and when I try manually only the phone stock recovery comes up not clockworkmod....?
rawdawgroy said:
I got the clockworkmod recovery the phone doesnt let me do anything with out it and it shows up on my memory card when I try to back up it just goes to the screen with the big red exclamation point and when I try manually only the phone stock recovery comes up not clockworkmod....?
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are you rooted,if not you need to root it first
yea temp root and ive rooted everytime the phone reboots it wont let me use the app unless ive rooted the device
rawdawgroy said:
yea temp root and ive rooted everytime the phone reboots it wont let me use the app unless ive rooted the device
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Receptionist : the doctor will see you now mr rawdagroy
doctor:
Well Mr RawDog it Sounds like a good case of the "didntreadeverything".
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While you did root your phone you must turn off the security protocol. That is why we are mentioning s-off/s-on. IF you look in the development section you will see thread after thread after thread on how to do just that. Simply running VISIONary will not root your phone to the degree that you need. You must turn off that security protocol. If you don't everytime you reboot your phone it's going back to a OE fashion and losing Root Access, and losing the recovery image since the phone is flashing the stock recovery image again.
but thats what im sayin ive even had z4root and visionary but i only temp root not perm do i have to perm root to get this to work...? also ive re-rooted my phone everytime i rebooted cause i know that temp goes away after.... HELP PLEASE
rawdawgroy said:
but thats what im sayin ive even had z4root and visionary but i only temp root not perm do i have to perm root to get this to work...? also ive re-rooted my phone everytime i rebooted cause i know that temp goes away after.... HELP PLEASE
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read my signature in this post. Or in my post above. I have two links on how to turn s-off. VISIONary.apk and Z4 will not turn off your security protocol.
also do i need sdk or adb to flash a rom on my phone....????
rawdawgroy said:
also do i need sdk or adb to flash a rom on my phone....????
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NEED ? No.
HIGHLY ENCOURAGE Yes.
ok i followed your instructions down to the letter and when i put # cd/sdcard/root it say not found on card .....???
rawdawgroy said:
ok i followed your instructions down to the letter and when i put # cd/sdcard/root is say sd card not found .....???
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its cd /sdcard/root not cd/sdcard/root make sure you hit the space bar between cd and /
Here is a good how to on you tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4B4y0CQUDo
and after it does it thing just turn the phone off or....? and how do i know if its done...???
rawdawgroy said:
and after it does it thing just turn the phone off or....? and how do i know if its done...???
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when i rooted i didn't use that method i used this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996 also watched this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4B4y0CQUDo and had no issues. Sorry i can't help with that method
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and after it does it thing just turn the phone off or....? and how do i know if its done...???
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you need to boot into hBoot and look at the top line for s-on or s-off. If s-off just boot the phone normally and click on Temp root, then perma root and your done.
WOLF26915 said:
when i rooted i didn't use that method i used this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996 also watched this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4B4y0CQUDo and had no issues. Sorry i can't help with that method
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is this a perm root or temp i ask cause i am really tired of rooting after every boot...
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is this a perm root or temp i ask cause i am really tired of rooting after every boot...
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yes this is perm root

returned replacement phone... PLEASE HELP -- NEED TEMP ROOT UNDER STOCK FROYO NO ADB

OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo? Had the same replacement prob, sent it back to T-mobile, called CS told them about issues, they're sending a MT4GSlide, call CS you might get lucky like I did
use the "how to root.sh root your phone".
i used that in the T-Mobile store to root my before i left the store when i bought the device.
Marquis63 said:
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo?
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The phone I restored to stock Froyo was my old phone... It was rooted already. I just wanted to restore it to a factory condition so I wouldn't have any problems returning my old, and rooted/heavily modded phone to TMO.
So I just took the .img that you can download from this thread LINK
Then you just make sure it is on the root of your sdcard, then boot into hboot by holding the volume down while pressing the power button. It will boot and think it is an "update", but it will just restore it to the stock.
Obviously this cannot be done from 2.3.4 because it realizes it is an old version... If you have a phone with stock 2.3.4 you have to trick it into letting you downgrade from gingerbread to froyo using this thread: LINK
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Marquis63 said:
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo? Had the same replacement prob, sent it back to T-mobile, called CS told them about issues, they're sending a MT4GSlide, call CS you might get lucky like I did
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That's great! But I told them about the fact I solved my wifi problem.... Besides, I already tried to shake them down for a Sensation... no go.
The Slide version looks great... Better camera and faster.... But for now, I will stick with the 4G regular unless I get another issue....
My solution (in another thread) to my wifi problem requires you select "wifi only" under the wifi calling app. If this becomes really problematic and inconvenient, I will call them back... Will try to get a Sensation again or a 4G Slide then.
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OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
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Go to youtube type gfree mytouch 4g look for author Mackster248 video I would link but I'm a noob
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Z4Root is another app that might work on Froyo.
You can manually execute psneuter or rageagainstthecage from Terminal Emulator. Search Google, it'll guide you for both.
Or you could just not listen to CM Wiki, and use Visionary.
I think Visionary screws things up pretty badly.... I found this out the hard way.
I think I have done a hard reset (removed battery + factory reset) about 8 times so far.
I have been using a combination of Visionary, followed by a root.sh script from this link. Then I do get root.... but it is tremendously precarious.
I then uninstall Visionary, use ADBwireless as I have root now and proceed to follow the Cyanogen instructions.....
But then... whenever I have to run psneuter, it boots me out of the adb shell and I have to start everything all over again.... I have to do a factory reset to get Visionary to work that one f*cking precious time.
I just tried it again just now (I have been modifying steps and things to get it to work)... And now... every time I do a factory reset and run visionary, I don't get a Superuser Root... I get "UNKNOWN USER ROOT" in the emulator.... I have know idea what that means, but it is not root....
I have been at this for days and losing my mind. I cannot believe I can't root this phone.... especially now in Froyo... Without a god**mn USB CABLE!!!
Jack_R1 said:
Z4Root is another app that might work on Froyo.
You can manually execute psneuter or rageagainstthecage from Terminal Emulator. Search Google, it'll guide you for both.
Or you could just not listen to CM Wiki, and use Visionary.
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z4 root doesn't work with the MT4G...
Hey... I had a thought..
Since I have nandroid backups... If I get a Visionary root (if I can....), can I just restore my phone with one of them... I mean those backups are all simunlock, eng hboot, radio =111111111, etc. full root.
But... I thought I would ask so I do not have to do another 15 hard resets to figure out that it doesn't work.
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Hey... I had a thought..
Since I have nandroid backups... If I get a Visionary root (if I can....), can I just restore my phone with one of them... I mean those backups are all simunlock, eng hboot, radio =111111111, etc. full root.
But... I thought I would ask so I do not have to do another 15 hard resets to figure out that it doesn't work.
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no, because VISIONary.apk only gives root access, not S-off. S-off is needed to flash Clockworkmod Recovery, which is needed to flash the backups.
saranhai said:
no, because VISIONary.apk only gives root access, not S-off. S-off is needed to flash Clockworkmod Recovery, which is needed to flash the backups.
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Thanks... and for whatever reason... even though I think I rooted my phone successfully, I cannot restore any of my nandroid backups... I get an error in Rom Manager.... and while in recovery, I get an error of "files missing".
Now I cannot even boot the phone. It is stuck at the myTouch Splash.
I am so f*cking tired of doing this... Nothing has worked--
I cannot believe I reset this phone to Froyo in anticipation of sending it back....
I ended up keeping it because it had the better screen and because I thought I had solved my wifi problem...
I am without a phone at all at this point.
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OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
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Have you tried gfree?
+1 it might be your only option.
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And to add to that, gfree doesn't exactly require ADB.
You can use that paid root app to manually push the necessary files into system>data>local.
mackster248 said:
And to add to that, gfree doesn't exactly require ADB.
You can use that paid root app to manually push the necessary files into system>data>local.
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I finally managed to do it. But it took a lot of trial and error.
I learned:
You can only be rely on exactly 1 temp root from visionary after a factory reset. Any more and you are getting lucky.
Visionary definitely should be uninstalled before following that guide.
I may make a guide after belabouring 17 hours to accomplish this.
I guess I am lucky... If TMO had sent me a phone with a good screen, I would have been tempted to keep that one. If I did, it would have been stock 2.3.4, and I would probably not have root yet.
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syntropic said:
I finally managed to do it. But it took a lot of trial and error.
I learned:
You can only be rely on exactly 1 temp root from visionary after a factory reset. Any more and you are getting lucky.
Visionary definitely should be uninstalled before following that guide.
I may make a guide after belabouring 17 hours to accomplish this.
I guess I am lucky... If TMO had sent me a phone with a good screen, I would have been tempted to keep that one. If I did, it would have been stock 2.3.4, and I would probably not have root yet.
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Thanks for the link, yes you should write a guide, it will help others in your situation. I didn't even ask, the CSR offered the MTS4G. Glad you finally got it figured out, it can make you crazy LOL

2.3.4 Latest OTA[2.77.651.8] Downgrade!!

Hey guys, so since the latest OTA, we haven't been able to downgrade nor root the shift, if we were on the latest OTA. I've been hunting through methods for downgrading and rooting, but nothing came about that actually worked. Finally having a free mind after my AP Physics exam, I got a train of though going, and tried Indirect's downgrade method, which yes, failed. What happened is when tacoroot tried to reboot the phone, it didn't have the permissions to reboot the phone, and so when the "error" on the CMD wrote that I have no permission to reboot the phone, I whipped out quick root, and did the reboots through it. Using quick root and Indirect's method of downgrading, I managed to downgrade to Android 2.2, and got to root my phone, then flash some ROMs.
Solution:
When you are in the step in Indirect's tutorial where you use the
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[COLOR="Red"]adb shell sh /data/local/tmp/taco --setup[/COLOR]
command, you'll notice that tacroot doesn't have the permissions to reboot, at that time, you have to open lyriquidperfection's "HTC Quick Root v1.1.13" application and execute the reboot to recovery command through it by clicking on the drop down in reboot options, and choosing to reboot to recovery.
When you are at the step in the tutorial when you boot to hboot in order to downgrade, you can use the Quick Root application to reboot to bootloader where you flash your downgraded PG06IMG.zip.
Links:
Indirect's - Root and downgrade for Android 2.3.4
lyriquidperfection's - HTC Quick Root v1.1.13
If any clarification is needed, please post below, this is simply a quick guide to allow people to downgrade and if they choose, root it or flash a ROM. I take NO responsibility in what you do with your device nor when you void your warranty. I take NO credit for neither Indirect's method of downgrading, nor lriquidperfection's application, though I would appreciate a thanks for my compiling this "quick guide" to help you downgrade your device. If you're looking for credits on the method and application, they should be found at those posts.
Good luck,
John
*If you want to flash a rooted version of this update, go to this thread
Just keep in mind you can't flash a new ROM to your phone until you downgrade.
local.prop: permission denied resolution by CNexus: his post
For anyone else who has problems, here's what I did. if you get the message
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local.prop: permission denied
After running
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adb shell sh /data/local/tmp/taco --root
Then simply run the following command again (step 2 of Indirect's method)
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adb shell chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/taco
The problem is that your phone resets the permissions of that directory, so it doesn't let tacoroot execute and do its thing.
Nice
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BigSplit said:
Nice
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Thanks, glad to see people appreciating this
Very nice, and much appreciated . Hellua nice find.
Very nice find, I would triple thanks if I could
ICS rom, here I come.
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Might want to add the Software Number to the OP
indirects method for 2.3.4 wouldnt work for me on the latest ota but lyriquidperfection's - HTC Quick Root v1.1.13 method rooted like a charm. i was running completely stock 2.3.4 latest with the newest hboot and with some force and annoyance managed to somehow trick the new hboot into doing the downgrade to 2.2 and i was able to get s-off/full root again.
if i can figure out what exactly i did ill post it up for everyone but im not entirely sure. it mightve been a fluke.
all i know for sure is after i got root with lyriquidperfection's - HTC Quick Root v1.1.13
i dd the misc.img a ****load of times and then dd the eng hboot a ****load of times until it <------like 30 times in a row each lol, one after another the other.
it forced the hboot to relock the htcdev unlock and accidentally took the 2.2 downgrade (PG06IMG.zip) so i could switch hboots again.
its a helluva gamble but if anyone else has unlocked through htcdev and is willing to gamble on it have fun, if you brick it isnt my fault and i hold no responsibility over it. i think i pissed the phone off and it gave up but it worked for me. it was really a combination of using the lyriquidperfection's - HTC Quick Root v1.1.13, indirects root method, and vicodans method.
OP: so you tried my method and it failed too?
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OP: so you tried my method and it failed too?
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I believe I may have come across it. This weekend I may go back to 2.3.4 to test out some other solutions, mix and match, just to see what over all works.
JohnnyCakeXM said:
I believe I may have come across it. This weekend I may go back to 2.3.4 to test out some other solutions, mix and match, just to see what over all works.
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yeah, i had to do a complete mashup to get my hboot to take the 2.2 downgrade, im still trying to remember how i did it and debating on taking the gamble again myself
Lol, i'm just fine with this method. Worked for me, therefore I am satisfied,
JohnnyCakeXM just a suggestion, but you may want to give a little more detail in the OP. Maybe a Step by Step .
prboy1969 said:
JohnnyCakeXM just a suggestion, but you may want to give a little more detail in the OP. Maybe a Step by Step .
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Basically he just used a reboot app to do the needed reboots since taco couldn't and everything else is done by script
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strapped365 said:
Basically he just used a reboot app to do the needed reboots since taco couldn't and everything else is done by script
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I understand what he did . It's just I've received a few PM's asking what his steps are. So rather then explain it every time, I figured I'd give him a heads up to give a more detailed OP for the newbs.
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prboy1969 said:
Well I think you would've be better off posting in JohnnyCakeXM's thread. Might want to think about moving this discussion over there. But anyway. It sounds like you did not actually complete the first part of the process.
A factory Reset isn't going to do it.
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Well thats the problem, to complete the first part, I need to get that menu to show up again, but it won't and just gives me the recovery icon
But any ideas? I was thinking of running the 2.3.4 RUU, but it may not take because of the OTA, so idk
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CNexus said:
Ok, so today I got around to rooting my phone, running the latest OTA with JohnnyCakeXM's process
I ran the command that was denied "adb shell sh /data/local/tmp/taco --setup"
Gives error (expected)
Rebooted through HTC Quickroot, pressed the 3 buttons and got the "cache files" error
It gave me the "Android System Recovery <3e>" menu...but then I kinda just pulled the battery instead of selecting "Reboot system now"
Now whenever I try to go through this again to get to the "3e" menu, it just stays stuck in recovery (with the ! sign) after I press VolUp + VolDown + Power
Any help as to how to get to that menu again?
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CNexus said:
Moved from THIS thread.
Well thats the problem, to complete the first part, I need to get that menu to show up again, but it won't and just gives me the recovery icon
But any ideas? I was thinking of running the 2.3.4 RUU, but it may not take because of the OTA, so idk
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I do not think the 2.3.4 RUU is going to work for you. The issue I believe is that you didn't actually complete Indirects part of the method.
The command " adb shell sh /data/local/tmp/taco --setup " should have gone through before you went any further. I would try starting the whole process over again.
I'll take care of it some time tonight, or tomorrow. Just will have to re-flash stock 2.3.4 to ensure everything is in order and I'll even make a video for it. Text tutorial will come first, when it does.
prboy1969 said:
I do not think the 2.3.4 RUU is going to work for you. The issue I believe is that you didn't actually complete Indirects part of the method.
The command " adb shell sh /data/local/tmp/taco --setup " should have gone through before you went any further. I would try starting the whole process over again.
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Thats the reason why JohnnyCakeXM posted this thread in the first place...? Because the command DOESN'T go through completely so you need to use some third party program to do the reboots for you
EDIT: Yes, I have gone through it multiple times and even checked my cables and everything to make sure that none of that was the problem before I even posted here
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CNexus said:
Thats the reason why JohnnyCakeXM posted this thread in the first place...? Because the command DOESN'T go through completely so you need to use some third party program to do the reboots for you
EDIT: Yes, I have gone through it multiple times and even checked my cables and everything to make sure that none of that was the problem before I even posted here
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What he said in the OP was :
" when tacoroot tried to reboot the phone, it didn't have the permissions to reboot the phone, and so when the "error" on the CMD wrote that I have no permission to reboot the phone, I whipped out quick root, and did the reboots through it. "
So unless I'm not reading his OP incorrectly ( which is a possibility ) , the command has to go through. But it will fail to reboot, then you use Quick Root to do the Reboots. Again this is why I suggested a Clearer Step by Step OP. So that the process can be more easily followed, and diagnosed if there is an issue . It leaves a lot less to interpretation.
prboy1969 said:
What he said in the OP was :
" when tacoroot tried to reboot the phone, it didn't have the permissions to reboot the phone, and so when the "error" on the CMD wrote that I have no permission to reboot the phone, I whipped out quick root, and did the reboots through it. "
So unless I'm not reading his OP incorrectly ( which is a possibility ) , the command has to go through. But it will fail to reboot, then you use Quick Root to do the Reboots. Again this is why I suggested a Clearer Step by Step OP. So that the process can be more easily followed, and diagnosed if there is an issue . It leaves a lot less to interpretation.
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Yes, I ran tacoroot --setup, waited for the error, and then rebooted through Quickroot
I think I said this in my original post in the other thread..?
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