Hi,
I use to use Windows Phone on my HD2 but I eventually switched back to Android. Since there was recently a release for the NODO update, I am keen to try it.
My question is if I backup my current rom with magldr, can I late (when using WP7) switch back to android simply by restoring?
Thanks!
Yes, you would need to reflash the cwm partition layout first, but then the backup can be restored.
Sam is right you can restore your Android ROM to just like it was when you made the Nandroid backup using CWM. But you need to use a seperate SD card to store the back up on or copy it to your computer cuase WP7 is going to totally reformat your SD card unless you have it partitioned correctly. Meani.g you will loose any infortion that is not on another partition on your SD card.
Ah yea that, good catch.
T-Macgnolia said:
Sam is right you can restore your Android ROM to just like it was when you made the Nandroid backup using CWM. But you need to use a seperate SD card to store the back up on or copy it to your computer cuase WP7 is going to totally reformat your SD card unless you have it partitioned correctly. Meani.g you will loose any infortion that is not on another partition on your SD card.
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If I backup my current rom to the SD card I'm using now, and then use a second SD card and flash WP7 with that, I can take out the second one, plug in the first, boot into MAGLDR and safely restore Android?
Nope, the partition WP7 uses is in some sort of locked encryption format, so in other words, WP7 won't recognize the space on the sd card and fail to boot. Hence why WP7 formats the sd card in a certain way on first boot.
So in other words, use one sd card to save your nandroid backup/android, and another sd card for WP7 to use.
Kailkti said:
Nope, the partition WP7 uses is in some sort of locked encryption format, so in other words, WP7 won't recognize the space on the sd card and fail to boot. Hence why WP7 formats the sd card in a certain way on first boot.
So in other words, use one sd card to save your nandroid backup/android, and another sd card for WP7 to use.
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So in theory I can nandroid backup on my current sd card, then use another for WP7 to partition. I can plug my first sd card back in and restore from MAGLDR replacing android over WP7?
Oops lawl I misread the post above. I thought you were trying to use a sd card for WP7 to format when it boots up first then plug in your nandroid backed up sd card and use WP7 normally.
Anyways, yes you can do that. CWM is going take over WP7 anyways.
bazinga said:
So in theory I can nandroid backup on my current sd card, then use another for WP7 to partition. I can plug my first sd card back in and restore from MAGLDR replacing android over WP7?
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You know I actually just really thought about it , and yes you can do just what you are asking. Just flash the WP7 ROM of your choice, this should not remove CWM if you currently have it flashed to your HD2, Not running CWM from SD card by placing the two required files on it. Cause flashing WP7 will remove those two files.
So when you get ready to go back to Android you will have to put a SD card with the Backup on it in your HD2 or remove the RAID format that WP7 puts on the SD card and then reformat it with Fat 32, then put the copy on it and boot into CWM and restore with your backup and you should theoretically have Android back on your HD2. I Have not tested this, but like i said it is theoretical.
Let us know how it works out.
Looking at bazinga's avatar picture is making me wish there was an HD2 tablet.
T-Macgnolia said:
You know I actually just really thought about it , and yes you can do just what you are asking. Just flash the WP7 ROM of your choice, this should not remove CWM if you currently have it flashed to your HD2, Not running CWM from SD card by placing the two required files on it. Cause flashing WP7 will remove those two files.
So when you get ready to go back to Android you will have to put a SD card with the Backup on it in your HD2 or remove the RAID format that WP7 puts on the SD card and then reformat it with Fat 32, then put the copy on it and boot into CWM and restore with your backup and you should theoretically have Android back on your HD2. I Have not tested this, but like i said it is theoretical.
Let us know how it works out.
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Yup, it worked. After trying NODO I went back to MAGLDR but I had to flash AD Recovery again. Then I just restored the backup from my SD card.
Kailkti said:
Nope, the partition WP7 uses is in some sort of locked encryption format, so in other words, WP7 won't recognize the space on the sd card and fail to boot. Hence why WP7 formats the sd card in a certain way on first boot.
So in other words, use one sd card to save your nandroid backup/android, and another sd card for WP7 to use.
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I don't really know about locked and encrypted. But what I do know is WP7 formats the SD card with RAID. This is a format for hard drives, flash memory, external storage, and the such that lets a computer/device view and treat the different storage areas as one storage and can use them as one hard drive if you will. this is used in much larger scale usually.
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I flashed wp7 but now I want to go back to android but my SD card only has 199mb free instead of my original 16gb. I'm guessing due to the wp7 partition. How can I reverse that and get it back to the original 16gb. I've tried formatting it and everything.
Help please
You need to delete the individual partitions of your sd card and make it one big card again
maybe some software will help:
EASEUS Partition Master (Home Edition)
MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition
Paragon Partition Manager Free Edition
There was a similar thread somewhere...anyway, the only way you can format your sd card back is to put it in a symbian device. It recognises it as broken an formats it. I personally confirm this with Nokia E71. Nokia n97 mini is also confirmed by other people. Since Symbian hasn't changed much in the past year i guess almost all devices from 2008 till now can format your sd card. Now you just need to find one.
You can do it using diskpart in vitsa / 7 just as effectively
Where do I find that disc part at on windows 7?
Google Panasonic sd formatter
Install and in options 'format volume size adjustment 'to on.
You dont need to do all that.
Just falsh an Android ROM onto your phone.
Once you have android up and running, go to Settings>Storage>Erase SD card.
This will un-mount your sd card and format it. Once its complete, it will see all the storage.
Keep in mind it will wipe whatever you have in your SD card.
changochulo said:
You dont need to do all that.
Just falsh an Android ROM onto your phone.
Once you have android up and running, go to Settings>Storage>Erase SD card.
This will un-mount your sd card and format it. Once its complete, it will see all the storage.
Keep in mind it will wipe whatever you have in your SD card.
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I just did that and it didn't work for me. I had a 2GB card and it only formatted to 200MB. The card needs to be repartioned in order to regain the space that WP7 takes.
What I did was just stick the card in a USB card reader and used HPUSBDisk.exe on it. Worked out great, but I also unchecked the quick format option (not sure if that matters).
I have the same problem also.. If i understand correctly, we didn't put the SD card once we first boot the window 7. do these partitions method work? Thanks ahead
changochulo said:
You dont need to do all that.
Just falsh an Android ROM onto your phone.
Once you have android up and running, go to Settings>Storage>Erase SD card.
This will un-mount your sd card and format it. Once its complete, it will see all the storage.
Keep in mind it will wipe whatever you have in your SD card.
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Great...work fine...
GParted should also work
Put ur sd card in ur computer
right click on it and click on format to fat32
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
formated with winmo 6.5 ..
I installed WM7 on my HD2 that was running a custom 6.5 rom.
After I installed it though, WM7 keeps telling me that there isn't a lot of space. When I checked, there's only 6.5mb free. Is there a way the old ROM is still under WM7, thus taking up so much space?
I always had a ton of space on 6.5 to install apps/games/etc. (I did a "factory reset" of wm7 annnnd then it sent my phone into a never-ending bootcycle.)
So my question is, how do I wipe completely the old WM 6.5 ROM to fresh install 7 and save all of that space?
Also, my old boot image from 6.5 still shows up when 7 was booted.
Check your SD card. Might not be compatible.
There's actually no SD card in there. I'm talking about just the straight up phone storage.
(I'm using my 16g SD card for my Android phone and don't feel like backing up/reformatting right now).
That is why. WP7 requires a sd card to be in the phone so it can use it as if it were internal storage.
Oh gotcha.
If I just have my SD card inserted when I flash WP7, will it do the rest for me?
And does the SD card need to then remain in the phone for it to work properly?
jcalderone said:
Oh gotcha.
If I just have my SD card inserted when I flash WP7, will it do the rest for me?
And does the SD card need to then remain in the phone for it to work properly?
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Yes, you need the sd card in there when you first boot wp7 (you don't need to reflash, just hard reset it with card in), and the card must remain in the phone anytime you have wp7 on. If you turn on wp7 without the card or take it out while booted in to wp7, you will have to restart. Also, wp7 will format and make the card only readable by wp7... you can't take the card out to use with a card reader or for anything else. It's only usable with wp7.
yea i saw somewhere that the WP7 regular phones with sd slots make the memory "expandable" but as it formats and uses it in conjunction with the nand partition it is not "removable"...
Which is why the HD2 has a couple of plus points compared to a native HD7 in which the sd card is actually hidden underneath all the casing which you cant access..
Can you change the SD Card in WP7 from a 4GB card to an 8GB or 16GB card without reformating the Phone.
Thanks
michaels0007 said:
Can you change the SD Card in WP7 from a 4GB card to an 8GB or 16GB card without reformating the Phone.
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You can change it, but you'll lose everything you've installed and have an out the box phone so to speak.
Well at least that's what happened when I changed from my test SD card to my 8GB
Which Brand memory card do u use?
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Which Brand memory card do u use?
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I use SanDisk
no!!!will not read the new sd,you have to format the new one with the rom you are installing.
N.B: sandisk 8G is highly stable with wp7...
you can switch sd cards without starting over, but then you'd have to copy the partition from your old sd card to your new sd card.
it gets slightly complicated, but only because of the numbers of steps, not technical complications.
use Easeus partition software and try to replicate the exact partitions across the old card and the new card
good luck
bravo261 said:
you can switch sd cards without starting over, but then you'd have to copy the partition from your old sd card to your new sd card.
it gets slightly complicated, but only because of the numbers of steps, not technical complications.
use Easeus partition software and try to replicate the exact partitions across the old card and the new card
good luck
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Did this work for you? I made a thread about this possibility but nobody knew if it's really working.
Hey there,
my question is the other way. Is it possible to flash an other rom without having my SD in to safe settings and installed apps?
I tested this way:
1. turn off phone
2. pull out the SD
3. boot
My HD2 booted into WP7 and ran a blank WP7 such as it was fresh installed.
Then I turned it off and put the SD back in and booted. It booted into my ol status.
So no I want to if I can flash an other rom, put my already formatted SD with my WP7 settings back in? Is that maybe the best way to safe settings?
olegblochin said:
Hey there,
my question is the other way. Is it possible to flash an other rom without having my SD in to safe settings and installed apps?
I tested this way:
1. turn off phone
2. pull out the SD
3. boot
My HD2 booted into WP7 and ran a blank WP7 such as it was fresh installed.
Then I turned it off and put the SD back in and booted. It booted into my ol status.
So no I want to if I can flash an other rom, put my already formatted SD with my WP7 settings back in? Is that maybe the best way to safe settings?
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i would test this for you and reply you!!! i didn't think of that before...
michaels0007 said:
Can you change the SD Card in WP7 from a 4GB card to an 8GB or 16GB card without reformating the Phone.
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i think this link will explain you how to copy the partitions....and more
http://www.techienote.com/tag/technology
Thanks jianototi,
copying the wp7 partition between different sd cards works very well. The system accepts the copy and wp7 launches with all adjustments, downloads and installed apps.
My question now is: Can I reinstall a fresh wp7 nand and insert my sd from old installation? Will the sd be accepted? Or start wp7 with a virgin system?
regards
caiowa
so if we can move a wp7 from one sd card to another. Should it then not be possible to download from the internet, and just copy to sd-card?
Reason i ask is because i cannot get my wp7 to connnect to pc, so i cant get live services. However there seems to be a version now, where i just need to activate the phone.
If someone uploaded their data, can i download it, and update my wp7 that way?
yes put the new sdcard and restar to factory values
Bareslehm said:
so if we can move a wp7 from one sd card to another. Should it then not be possible to download from the internet, and just copy to sd-card?
Reason i ask is because i cannot get my wp7 to connnect to pc, so i cant get live services. However there seems to be a version now, where i just need to activate the phone.
If someone uploaded their data, can i download it, and update my wp7 that way?
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i was under the impression that it uses some sort of RAID over the card.
the best way to tell is to copy the card factory rest with one SD card, then swap the cards afterwards. Myguess is that it wont work the way you want it too, i doubt it will "give" you everything back on again.
How can this be done?
I have a class 2 sandisc which I consider slow... I have a class 6 on the way but already setup wp7 the way I like it... Is it a matter of simply swapping cards and resyncing zune? Or will there be apps on the card?
From what I understand the SD card is formatted and prepared in such a way that the SD Card becomes part of the main storage so if you change SD cards it will be as though you have a brand new WP7 install...
Stupid question. But if I swap out cards to a faster, better quality card and start from scratch, would I need to buy all my apps again or will it recognise I have purchased it before like the old marketplace?
As long as you use the same account details all will be well. The apps are linked with your account, not a specific installation.
I used Minitool Partition manager to copy my partitions from my old SD card to the new one. Worked like a charm. Everything (settings and apps) was intact.
Cheers for that, downloaded and installed... I'll give it a whirl when my card comes in the mail...
washpota said:
I used Minitool Partition manager to copy my partitions from my old SD card to the new one. Worked like a charm. Everything (settings and apps) was intact.
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REALLY!? that will work? Now what if like in my case, I just installed a NAND Android ROM, but used a different SD Card. When I re-install WP7 when Nodo comes out, can I just install WP7 w/o the SD Card in place then put it in on reboot and all my stuff will be there?
I know probably a long shot, but would like to try or know if anyone has tried.
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REALLY!? that will work? Now what if like in my case, I just installed a NAND Android ROM, but used a different SD Card. When I re-install WP7 when Nodo comes out, can I just install WP7 w/o the SD Card in place then put it in on reboot and all my stuff will be there?
I know probably a long shot, but would like to try or know if anyone has tried.
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There is a difference between your case and the OP's case. In the OP's case, the ROM knows the old SD card's config (partitions, files etc), so it would work fine as long as the new SD card also has the same partition layout and files. In your case, after re-install, it is a new ROM, so he would repartition the SD card.
I had tried to use a copied card after a ROM reset, but it re-created the partitions. So a ROM reinstall should behave similar. Anyway, it is worth giving a try.
hello everyone, i backed up my files using the CWM recovery, this may seem like a simple question (im a noob) but where do the backed up files go? i do not see them on my sd card or on the nook (built in memory) can i delete the backed up files? or get to them? Also a member here told me to buy 2 sd cards is a good idea, one with all the info and the other empty for apps and music so i can keep the sd card in the nook without it going to CWM everytime i boot, but if i buy a new sd card do i need to format it? or just use it out of the box and into the nook, will my apps still work since the new sd card is empty and my files?
Android311 said:
hello everyone, i backed up my files using the CWM recovery, this may seem like a simple question (im a noob) but where do the backed up files go? i do not see them on my sd card or on the nook (built in memory) can i delete the backed up files? or get to them? Also a member here told me to buy 2 sd cards is a good idea, one with all the info and the other empty for apps and music so i can keep the sd card in the nook without it going to CWM everytime i boot, but if i buy a new sd card do i need to format it? or just use it out of the box and into the nook, will my apps still work since the new sd card is empty and my files?
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Always format new cards. And never use Windows format. Use this. A freebie. Windows format can corrupt uSD.
Your nandroid (CWM) backup will be in the Backup folder in the ClockworkMod folder. It should be on your uSD.
One uSD is enough as long as it's large enough to hold all you want to use. I've always used at least a 16Gb card. Always name brand (SanDisk). You really don't want to swap back and forth. As long as your nandroind is on removable memory you should be safe. Some people copy their nandroind backups to their desktop computers for safe-keeping. A bit OCD but not really a bad idea.
Ok very good info! But I use the nook color and I do not think I need to format the sd card?
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If you use the uSD as flashable CwMR, then you wouldn't want to reformat the card, otherwise, you have to recreate it once again if you want to do a backup or install.
what i mean is my new sd card do i put it in my nook and format it thru cyannogen mod setting? says umount and format sd card, cause if i put the same CWM on the new sd card everytime i boot it will take me to cwm
Android311 said:
what i mean is my new sd card do i put it in my nook and format it thru cyannogen mod setting? says umount and format sd card, cause if i put the same CWM on the new sd card everytime i boot it will take me to cwm
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Others have formatted their uSD cards in their NC's but as a general rule I don't. I know I sound like a one-trick pony but one needs to start with a good formatted card otherwise everything else is for naught.
The reason I ask is because I don't want to keep pulling out my SD card everytime I turn my nook on, so if I were to format the new SD card how would I do it?
HTC Wildfire S (VM) "s-off" "rooted" Stock Rom
Either you confuse about CwM uSD or I (we) do not fully understand your issue.
1. If your uSD is a flashable CwM Recovery then it WILL BOOT into CwM Recover EVERY TIME you boot up with that uSD card plugged in. That's the way it is
2. If your uSD is for normal usage, you should NOT have any problem leaving the uSD card in the NC when booting up.
sorry i should have better explained, ok i get it now, my question in simple form is do i have to format the new sd or just simply pop it in the nook and go