[Q] Old HD2 ROM still there? - HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an

I installed WM7 on my HD2 that was running a custom 6.5 rom.
After I installed it though, WM7 keeps telling me that there isn't a lot of space. When I checked, there's only 6.5mb free. Is there a way the old ROM is still under WM7, thus taking up so much space?
I always had a ton of space on 6.5 to install apps/games/etc. (I did a "factory reset" of wm7 annnnd then it sent my phone into a never-ending bootcycle.)
So my question is, how do I wipe completely the old WM 6.5 ROM to fresh install 7 and save all of that space?
Also, my old boot image from 6.5 still shows up when 7 was booted.

Check your SD card. Might not be compatible.

There's actually no SD card in there. I'm talking about just the straight up phone storage.
(I'm using my 16g SD card for my Android phone and don't feel like backing up/reformatting right now).

That is why. WP7 requires a sd card to be in the phone so it can use it as if it were internal storage.

Oh gotcha.
If I just have my SD card inserted when I flash WP7, will it do the rest for me?
And does the SD card need to then remain in the phone for it to work properly?

jcalderone said:
Oh gotcha.
If I just have my SD card inserted when I flash WP7, will it do the rest for me?
And does the SD card need to then remain in the phone for it to work properly?
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Yes, you need the sd card in there when you first boot wp7 (you don't need to reflash, just hard reset it with card in), and the card must remain in the phone anytime you have wp7 on. If you turn on wp7 without the card or take it out while booted in to wp7, you will have to restart. Also, wp7 will format and make the card only readable by wp7... you can't take the card out to use with a card reader or for anything else. It's only usable with wp7.

yea i saw somewhere that the WP7 regular phones with sd slots make the memory "expandable" but as it formats and uses it in conjunction with the nand partition it is not "removable"...
Which is why the HD2 has a couple of plus points compared to a native HD7 in which the sd card is actually hidden underneath all the casing which you cant access..

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Flashing Windows 7 to Android

Hi all,
I have been using windows phone 7 for a couple of weeks and would like to flash back to Android NAND.
Does anyone have a guide on how to do this?
Thanks
Simon
simoran2 said:
Hi all,
I have been using windows phone 7 for a couple of weeks and would like to flash back to Android NAND.
Does anyone have a guide on how to do this?
Thanks
Simon
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Ummm flash back to stock rom 6.5 and then flash Android - unless wm7 is stuck once installed...
this should help ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920035
Thanks for the reply.
Can I just boot into MAGDLR and then USB flash NAND build as per normal? Do I need to do anything special with the memory card (i know windows phone 7 does weird stuff to it and dont want to nuke it...)
Cheers
I think you have to reformat your SD card, as WP7 makes your SD unusable untill you have formated it
05081983 said:
I think you have to reformat your SD card, as WP7 makes your SD unusable untill you have formated it
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Ok cheers
How do I do thins? When I connect the windows 7 hd2 to the pc it doesn't see the memory card.
When i flash to android, will i then be able to see the memory card and reformat as normal?
Also as above, am I ok to just reflash via MAGLDR straight from windows 7 to Android NAND? Or do I need to flash back to stock wm6.5 and then reflash to Android NAND?
simoran2 said:
Ok cheers
How do I do thins? When I connect the windows 7 hd2 to the pc it doesn't see the memory card.
When i flash to android, will i then be able to see the memory card and reformat as normal?
Also as above, am I ok to just reflash via MAGLDR straight from windows 7 to Android NAND? Or do I need to flash back to stock wm6.5 and then reflash to Android NAND?
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Put sd card into card reader on pc and format it there. You can use Panasonic SD Formatter (search xda for it)
You should be fine to flash to Android from WP7, I did this but to be safe I also ran a Task29 first.
ClydeB1 said:
Put sd card into card reader on pc and format it there. You can use Panasonic SD Formatter (search xda for it)
You should be fine to flash to Android from WP7, I did this but to be safe I also ran a Task29 first.
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Either that or put it in an SD card extender and put that inside a digital camera. Then do a "low level format". That would do it.
hmm whats a task29?
Im begining to think it may be easier to flash back to wm6.5 then flash to NAND Android
Task29 formats the NAND area where the roms are flashed to, so you start with a clean base. You can use this tool the do it and it is so simple (much easier than flashing to a stock rom again and then hspl and radio etc etc IMHO). Just be aware that as Task29 formats the rom when the phone reboots there is no rom to boot into, but just boot into bootloader and then flash magldr and then your Android rom.
Either way though you will still need to reformat the sd card after running WP7.
OK
So I flashed a NAND Android ROM, all went well and boots fine. The computer can now see the 16gb memory card in the HD2 but says its only 200mb (I think windows 7 must have used the rest)
When I format it in Windows (whilst its still in the phone - i dont have a card reader), it doesnt free anymore space than the 200mb.
Any thoughts how i can get the remained 15gb back?
simoran2 said:
OK
So I flashed a NAND Android ROM, all went well and boots fine. The computer can now see the 16gb memory card in the HD2 but says its only 200mb (I think windows 7 must have used the rest)
When I format it in Windows (whilst its still in the phone - i dont have a card reader), it doesnt free anymore space than the 200mb.
Any thoughts how i can get the remained 15gb back?
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You can format it using a digital camera if you have one that takes sd cards (put the micro sd into the sd card adaptor). If you don't have one then you will need to get yourself a card reader in order to format the card.
Or you could use a partitioning program, delete the 15gb unknown partition and then create a fat32 partition.

[Q] Upgrading SD Card without loosing existing data and settings

Wenn you have a Windows Phone 7 on HD2 working, but you need more space, is it possible to upgrade to a bigger SD-card without loosing your data?
Can you format the new SD-card and copy over all files from the old card to the new card e.g.?
Or do you really have to start from scratch again?
Speed_Sheep said:
Wenn you have a Windows Phone 7 on HD2 working, but you need more space, is it possible to upgrade to a bigger SD-card without loosing your data?
Can you format the new SD-card and copy over all files from the old card to the new card e.g.?
Or do you really have to start from scratch again?
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Read THIS thread. You just would not be copying over any android files unless you are going to dual boot.
jase33 said:
Read THIS thread. You just would not be copying over any android files unless you are going to dual boot.
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I think you missunderstood me, it's not about Android. It is not about creating a dual boot HD2 with Windows Phone 7 on NAND and Android on the SD card.
Think about currently having a HD2 with Windows Phone 7 installed and an SD card inserted of 2 GB. Then you realize your SD card gets too small because of installed applications and created alot of video's and pictures. Now you want to use a bigger SD card, a 16 GB e.g., how to "upgrade" to a bigger SD card?
Normally you have to start all over again, you loose all your installed applications and program settings wenn you insert a new SD card, because you have to do a hard-reset for what I have read.
But it is also possible to upgrade to a bigger SD card without loosing your data?
Speed_Sheep said:
I think you missunderstood me, it's not about Android. It is not about creating a dual boot HD2 with Windows Phone 7 on NAND and Android on the SD card.
Think about currently having a HD2 with Windows Phone 7 installed and an SD card inserted of 2 GB. Then you realize your SD card gets too small because of installed applications and created alot of video's and pictures. Now you want to use a bigger SD card, a 16 GB e.g., how to "upgrade" to a bigger SD card?
Normally you have to start all over again, you loose all your installed applications and program settings wenn you insert a new SD card, because you have to do a hard-reset for what I have read.
But it is also possible to upgrade to a bigger SD card without loosing your data?
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there is no way to save data yet. it has been voiced to MS for the ability to do this with zune or cloud services but nothing yet. you can get to your pictures and videos on the phone by using your pc. THIS tells you how to do that. you can then add them back on the phone without syncing with zune.
i think copying over the whole partition via easeus partition master while the device is in magldr will resolve your problem. you'll need to expand d partition i guess
jase33 said:
there is no way to save data yet. it has been voiced to MS for the ability to do this with zune or cloud services but nothing yet. you can get to your pictures and videos on the phone by using your pc. THIS tells you how to do that. you can then add them back on the phone without syncing with zune.
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From what i'm reading is what he's trying to say is No, My guess is you have to reinstall wp7 on your hd2 with the new sd card in there. Try that buddy.
aditya_r12 said:
i think copying over the whole partition via easeus partition master while the device is in magldr will resolve your problem. you'll need to expand d partition i guess
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Looks like it is possible what you are saying, according to the post of zole2112.

Can the SD Card be changed on WP7

Can you change the SD Card in WP7 from a 4GB card to an 8GB or 16GB card without reformating the Phone.
Thanks
michaels0007 said:
Can you change the SD Card in WP7 from a 4GB card to an 8GB or 16GB card without reformating the Phone.
Thanks
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You can change it, but you'll lose everything you've installed and have an out the box phone so to speak.
Well at least that's what happened when I changed from my test SD card to my 8GB
Which Brand memory card do u use?
Hawkeyezghost said:
Which Brand memory card do u use?
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I use SanDisk
no!!!will not read the new sd,you have to format the new one with the rom you are installing.
N.B: sandisk 8G is highly stable with wp7...
you can switch sd cards without starting over, but then you'd have to copy the partition from your old sd card to your new sd card.
it gets slightly complicated, but only because of the numbers of steps, not technical complications.
use Easeus partition software and try to replicate the exact partitions across the old card and the new card
good luck
bravo261 said:
you can switch sd cards without starting over, but then you'd have to copy the partition from your old sd card to your new sd card.
it gets slightly complicated, but only because of the numbers of steps, not technical complications.
use Easeus partition software and try to replicate the exact partitions across the old card and the new card
good luck
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Did this work for you? I made a thread about this possibility but nobody knew if it's really working.
Hey there,
my question is the other way. Is it possible to flash an other rom without having my SD in to safe settings and installed apps?
I tested this way:
1. turn off phone
2. pull out the SD
3. boot
My HD2 booted into WP7 and ran a blank WP7 such as it was fresh installed.
Then I turned it off and put the SD back in and booted. It booted into my ol status.
So no I want to if I can flash an other rom, put my already formatted SD with my WP7 settings back in? Is that maybe the best way to safe settings?
olegblochin said:
Hey there,
my question is the other way. Is it possible to flash an other rom without having my SD in to safe settings and installed apps?
I tested this way:
1. turn off phone
2. pull out the SD
3. boot
My HD2 booted into WP7 and ran a blank WP7 such as it was fresh installed.
Then I turned it off and put the SD back in and booted. It booted into my ol status.
So no I want to if I can flash an other rom, put my already formatted SD with my WP7 settings back in? Is that maybe the best way to safe settings?
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i would test this for you and reply you!!! i didn't think of that before...
michaels0007 said:
Can you change the SD Card in WP7 from a 4GB card to an 8GB or 16GB card without reformating the Phone.
Thanks
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i think this link will explain you how to copy the partitions....and more
http://www.techienote.com/tag/technology
Thanks jianototi,
copying the wp7 partition between different sd cards works very well. The system accepts the copy and wp7 launches with all adjustments, downloads and installed apps.
My question now is: Can I reinstall a fresh wp7 nand and insert my sd from old installation? Will the sd be accepted? Or start wp7 with a virgin system?
regards
caiowa
so if we can move a wp7 from one sd card to another. Should it then not be possible to download from the internet, and just copy to sd-card?
Reason i ask is because i cannot get my wp7 to connnect to pc, so i cant get live services. However there seems to be a version now, where i just need to activate the phone.
If someone uploaded their data, can i download it, and update my wp7 that way?
yes put the new sdcard and restar to factory values
Bareslehm said:
so if we can move a wp7 from one sd card to another. Should it then not be possible to download from the internet, and just copy to sd-card?
Reason i ask is because i cannot get my wp7 to connnect to pc, so i cant get live services. However there seems to be a version now, where i just need to activate the phone.
If someone uploaded their data, can i download it, and update my wp7 that way?
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i was under the impression that it uses some sort of RAID over the card.
the best way to tell is to copy the card factory rest with one SD card, then swap the cards afterwards. Myguess is that it wont work the way you want it too, i doubt it will "give" you everything back on again.

[Q] flashed wm7 to phone instead of sd how to fix

i have an hd2 and flashed wm7 to the device instead​of sd card. how do i fix this all help is very appreciated thanks
Are you serious -.-? Windows PHONE 7 can only be installed on the phone (NAND)!!!
am i right in thinking you installed WP7 to the device and your SD card isnt in use?
assumeing you had the SD card plugged in when you installed it then i am affraid your SD card isnt compatible,you will need to try another card, try stick to class 2 or 4 sd cards, unfortunately there isnt a list of working cards because every card is different and may or may not work
if you didnt have the SD card in then thats why the SD card isnt used, it needs to be present when you flash it
finally, if i have got this mixed up and you want to install to only the SD card and not the phone itsself then im sorry but it cant be done yet/ if at all
its true forgot to put in the sd card all together and it flashed to device... it works but no space for anything to save. dont know what to do at the moment. flashed magldr and then ppcboy wm7 like i said works reallly well just cant save anything and access the sd
If you do a hard reset with sd card in the phone should be all set. Wouldn't have to reflash anything. Just make sure sd card is in phone then go to settings,about, and click on reset phone. Should format on first boot and everything should be all set.
Answers my question I've been looking for. If I can flash my other hd2 that the sd card socket is broken with wp7. Already running it on the one I use all the time.

Trying WP7

Hi,
I use to use Windows Phone on my HD2 but I eventually switched back to Android. Since there was recently a release for the NODO update, I am keen to try it.
My question is if I backup my current rom with magldr, can I late (when using WP7) switch back to android simply by restoring?
Thanks!
Yes, you would need to reflash the cwm partition layout first, but then the backup can be restored.
Sam is right you can restore your Android ROM to just like it was when you made the Nandroid backup using CWM. But you need to use a seperate SD card to store the back up on or copy it to your computer cuase WP7 is going to totally reformat your SD card unless you have it partitioned correctly. Meani.g you will loose any infortion that is not on another partition on your SD card.
Ah yea that, good catch.
T-Macgnolia said:
Sam is right you can restore your Android ROM to just like it was when you made the Nandroid backup using CWM. But you need to use a seperate SD card to store the back up on or copy it to your computer cuase WP7 is going to totally reformat your SD card unless you have it partitioned correctly. Meani.g you will loose any infortion that is not on another partition on your SD card.
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If I backup my current rom to the SD card I'm using now, and then use a second SD card and flash WP7 with that, I can take out the second one, plug in the first, boot into MAGLDR and safely restore Android?
Nope, the partition WP7 uses is in some sort of locked encryption format, so in other words, WP7 won't recognize the space on the sd card and fail to boot. Hence why WP7 formats the sd card in a certain way on first boot.
So in other words, use one sd card to save your nandroid backup/android, and another sd card for WP7 to use.
Kailkti said:
Nope, the partition WP7 uses is in some sort of locked encryption format, so in other words, WP7 won't recognize the space on the sd card and fail to boot. Hence why WP7 formats the sd card in a certain way on first boot.
So in other words, use one sd card to save your nandroid backup/android, and another sd card for WP7 to use.
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So in theory I can nandroid backup on my current sd card, then use another for WP7 to partition. I can plug my first sd card back in and restore from MAGLDR replacing android over WP7?
Oops lawl I misread the post above. I thought you were trying to use a sd card for WP7 to format when it boots up first then plug in your nandroid backed up sd card and use WP7 normally.
Anyways, yes you can do that. CWM is going take over WP7 anyways.
bazinga said:
So in theory I can nandroid backup on my current sd card, then use another for WP7 to partition. I can plug my first sd card back in and restore from MAGLDR replacing android over WP7?
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You know I actually just really thought about it , and yes you can do just what you are asking. Just flash the WP7 ROM of your choice, this should not remove CWM if you currently have it flashed to your HD2, Not running CWM from SD card by placing the two required files on it. Cause flashing WP7 will remove those two files.
So when you get ready to go back to Android you will have to put a SD card with the Backup on it in your HD2 or remove the RAID format that WP7 puts on the SD card and then reformat it with Fat 32, then put the copy on it and boot into CWM and restore with your backup and you should theoretically have Android back on your HD2. I Have not tested this, but like i said it is theoretical.
Let us know how it works out.
Looking at bazinga's avatar picture is making me wish there was an HD2 tablet.
T-Macgnolia said:
You know I actually just really thought about it , and yes you can do just what you are asking. Just flash the WP7 ROM of your choice, this should not remove CWM if you currently have it flashed to your HD2, Not running CWM from SD card by placing the two required files on it. Cause flashing WP7 will remove those two files.
So when you get ready to go back to Android you will have to put a SD card with the Backup on it in your HD2 or remove the RAID format that WP7 puts on the SD card and then reformat it with Fat 32, then put the copy on it and boot into CWM and restore with your backup and you should theoretically have Android back on your HD2. I Have not tested this, but like i said it is theoretical.
Let us know how it works out.
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Yup, it worked. After trying NODO I went back to MAGLDR but I had to flash AD Recovery again. Then I just restored the backup from my SD card.
Kailkti said:
Nope, the partition WP7 uses is in some sort of locked encryption format, so in other words, WP7 won't recognize the space on the sd card and fail to boot. Hence why WP7 formats the sd card in a certain way on first boot.
So in other words, use one sd card to save your nandroid backup/android, and another sd card for WP7 to use.
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I don't really know about locked and encrypted. But what I do know is WP7 formats the SD card with RAID. This is a format for hard drives, flash memory, external storage, and the such that lets a computer/device view and treat the different storage areas as one storage and can use them as one hard drive if you will. this is used in much larger scale usually.

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