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N1 Castrated! T-Mo throttled my data connection

Got the following text message this morning:
Free T-Mobile msg: Your usage has reached the data threshold for your rate plan this month. Your speed has been reduced for the rest of this billing cycle.
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Sure enough, i'm now getting 96 kbs down / 105 kbs up.
I wasn't aware there was such a threshold on the Android unlimited data plan. I sure don't remember seeing that in the fine print.
Rather annoying that I didn't know this was coming.

I can't say anything about the fine print although I assume there would certainly be some information about the cap but I wish state or federal government would go after telco's who keep claiming unlimited while actually have a cap set.
It's not so bad in your case where I guess it is still unlimited, just throttled, but in Canada if we go over our "unlimited" amount we actually get charged per kb.
Now perhaps if Tmo said it is unlimited 3G data it could be even more frustrating.

Well how much data have you used?

That's a normal T-Mobile thing. Any of the other 3 carriers will shut you off and/or bill per KB.
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RogerPodacter said:
Well how much data have you used?
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This ^
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T-mobile has a fair usage clause. Basically unlimited means that you get to use what the "average" data usage is from all of tmo's data users. If you go over that, you still get data free but you get throttled. It is to help keep the network from being overloaded. Also Tmo doesn't charge you for tethering like every other carrier and I would assume that by getting that message you have been tethering all month.
I have used about 3gigs of data on Tmo and never had that issue come up. You must really be sucking down some data. Be thankful you are not on one of the other carriers. They would have hit you with a huge tethering bill and the associated data charges!

As far as I know the softcap is 5GB.
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wow. I checked my account with t-mobile and I had used a whopping 10 gb this month! (I usually average about 4 gb but for the last week I let a coworker with an iPhone 4 tether off my line, and between us, we were sucking up over 1/2 a gig a day.)
No more data for you iPhone dude.
On the bright side, my billing cycle ends in a couple of days.

Wow, I'm really happy to see 5GB is the softcap! I just hit 1GB and started getting really worried. All this tethering to my PS3 for Call of Duty is adding up lol.
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I use about 1GB a month...I'll never reach 5GB, but good to know I have some room to spare Definately, Tmob is the best for data compared to the other carriers.

tanman1975 said:
Got the following text message this morning:
Sure enough, i'm now getting 96 kbs down / 105 kbs up.
I wasn't aware there was such a threshold on the Android unlimited data plan. I sure don't remember seeing that in the fine print.
Rather annoying that I didn't know this was coming.
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YESSSSSSSSSS!!!! I LOVE T-Mobile for doing this to the ones that abuse the fair usage of the network! T-mobile made me a happy man today

I thought the cap was 10gb. If the OP used 10gb like he said, then it seems 10gb is the cap.

Why did the OP have an iphone tethered to him? Makes no sense!

The Android "plan" for T-Mobile has a 10GB softcap. Not the 5GB softcap.
The throttling is to 50kbps for the rest of the billing-cycle but it looks like there's a bit of give on the throttling.
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Kermee

worker1 said:
Why did the OP have an iphone tethered to him? Makes no sense!
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Because the iphone has less bars in more places?

I don't get it. If there's a cap then it's not unlimited. If it's not unlimited why is T-Mobile allowed to advertise it as that?

Mokurex said:
I don't get it. If there's a cap then it's not unlimited. If it's not unlimited why is T-Mobile allowed to advertise it as that?
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unlimited data, not unlimited 3g/H as it turns out
I gave iPhone guy access so he could setup his new iphone4, also demo facetime and hd youtube (which he can't do over 3g). I suspect he abused the connection since my data usage more than tripled those days...

Mokurex said:
I don't get it. If there's a cap then it's not unlimited. If it's not unlimited why is T-Mobile allowed to advertise it as that?
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It is still unlimited. Just throttled. 10 gigs is more than generous.

yeah it is unlimited but to keep network congestion down after you use a certain amount of data they slow you down. They don't charge you more though. The other carriers do a real nice tethering charge if you go over a certain amount, saying that you didn't pay to tether and you would never use that much data if you weren't. T-mo is awesome, believe it!

It could be worse. Some broadband providers are throttling users on their home accounts due to excessive bandwidth usage.

Tmobile 5 gig threshold

Is this true? 5 gig limit on data plan starting on the 16 of this month?
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The 5 GB limit has been around for a while. But they don't deactivate your service or charge extra if you go over, they just throttle your speed do you can't use data as fast.

gravis86 said:
The 5 GB limit has been around for a while. But they don't deactivate your service or charge extra if you go over, they just throttle your speed do you can't use data as fast.
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The cap was 10 GB, actually. They didn't publish it anywhere but it was there, throttling users back.

There is no ban per say. It's a Cap, and there has been one for a long time.

Does it tell us how much of a decrease we'll see in speeds?
In Turkey, I used VodaFoneTR and after a 100MB limit they hit me with 15KB/s. And I was getting about 5MBPS before the cap. It wasn't too bad at all. Monthly data unlimited was 8TL which is about $5 usd. Very fair for the price.
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Hah, yeah it's real alright. Just a week after upgrading from my G1 I got a text from t-mobile saying I've reached the data limit for my rate plan. Which I think is bull**** since my contract should have been renewed right there and then, and there's NO WAY I used up 10GB in under a week.
I'll have a talk with customer service in a bit. Edge speeds down from hspa+ is a total kick to the balls.

they will be throttling down after 5 gig and also you will have to pay for tethering now as an extra feature which will cost 15 bucks a month, i work for tmobile and spoke to the vice president just yesterday when he came for a visit

Bbe1367 said:
they will be throttling down after 5 gig and also you will have to pay for tethering now as an extra feature which will cost 15 bucks a month, i work for tmobile and spoke to the vice president just yesterday when he came for a visit
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did you need to post twice?

Once it's rooted it will be a non-issue (paid tether anyway).

Is there anyway we can monitor our data usage? The myaccount apps from tmobiles doesn't give me the info.

sheek360 said:
Is there anyway we can monitor our data usage? The myaccount apps from tmobiles doesn't give me the info.
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You have to log into your account at T-Mobile as far as I know.

I have had internet since 2006, does it grandfather in the old unlimited rule? Or has this rule been around for quite some time?

Mog said:
I have had internet since 2006, does it grandfather in the old unlimited rule? Or has this rule been around for quite some time?
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Data is still unlimited, no changes there. The only change is that once you go over 5 GB of data transfer in a billing period, your maximum data speed is decreased to "EDGE speeds" (1 Mbit max, 400 Kbit typical) until the start of your next billing period. You should still connect with HSPA+ (if available), just without the HSPA+ speeds.
Per the T-Mobile contract, they are allowed to make speed changes "in order to improve service" and whether it's 10 GB (old value) or 5 GB (the new value) can be changed without it being a contract modification since they are still providing "unlimited" data service.

Tmobile throttling...nope

Just destroyed my 5 gig limit, currently at 11.56gbs and still hitting 9-10 mpbs down/ 1.5-2.1 mpbs up. What's up I keep hearing about people being throttled and yet I passed my limit without any consequences. Currently on stock gingerbread 2.3.4.
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Screen shots please. I wanna take your word, but a few months ago i got throttled.
Forgive my doubts. Please present proof.
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How do I do screenshots without root. Ill do it for you
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pierrekid said:
Just destroyed my 5 gig limit, currently at 11.56gbs and still hitting 9-10 mpbs down/ 1.5-2.1 mpbs up. What's up I keep hearing about people being throttled and yet I passed my limit without any consequences. Currently on stock gingerbread 2.3.4.
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I've gone over 5GB a few times before and not been throttled either. It seems they only throttle if you consistently go over 5GB. But I think that you'll find more people who get throttled than not.
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How do I do screenshots without root. Ill do it for you
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you'd need to connect to your computer and use the SDK to take screen shots without root.

Heck if you don't want to take a screenshot by connecting to your PC just take a picture...wait, do people still use cameras?

I heard tmobile was planning on charging overage charges instead of throttling now? I remember seeing something on engadget about some changes.
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Athrun88 said:
I heard tmobile was planning on charging overage charges instead of throttling now? I remember seeing something on engadget about some changes.
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I thought that was just for the 200 mb plan. They advertise "unlimited data" too much to just get rid of it.
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Athrun88 said:
I heard tmobile was planning on charging overage charges instead of throttling now? I remember seeing something on engadget about some changes.
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nivlac978 said:
I thought that was just for the 200 mb plan. They advertise "unlimited data" too much to just get rid of it.
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Yes, they're only going to start charging overages on 200mb plans, which aren't even for smartphones anyways. I think they're trying to crack down on people with smartphones who get in on the 200mb plan then just deal with the EDGE-like speeds because they save a lot of money with it.
There's a cap on how much they can charge you on overages too, I think it caps at $30 from what I've heard.

wth I got throttled! after going 41 MB over 2GB limit -.- I used to get 7-9 Mbps on downloads. now I get 0.05 Mbps. Its almost unusable!

frankth3frizz said:
wth I got throttled! after going 41 MB over 2GB limit -.- I used to get 7-9 Mbps on downloads. now I get 0.05 Mbps. Its almost unusable!
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why "wth"? Its pretty clear that they say they throttle after 2GB on new plans Not sure why you're caught by surprise lol.

martonikaj said:
why "wth"? Its pretty clear that they say they throttle after 2GB on new plans Not sure why you're caught by surprise lol.
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well these guys said they didnt. lol. thats why i said "wth"

frankth3frizz said:
well these guys said they didnt. lol. thats why i said "wth"
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If you have a grandfathered 10GB or 5GB plan, you're much less likely to get throttled unless you consistently go over 5GB.
New, 2GB plans are explicitly worded to be throttled at exactly 2GB.

I'm on the old 10gb plan and wasnt throttled for my last 3 billing cycles where I went over 5gb.
However I was on rooted 2.2 froyo then updated to rooted rom gingerbread 2.3.4 and now Im throttled to damn dialup. It was good while it lasted.

Yeah they got me the day before my billing cycle started over! Lol It actually wasnt that bad but i dont suggest any downloads. I did alot of downloading last month.
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Last billing cycle, they didn't throttle me. I got up to 9gb of data.
Now I'm capped at 57kbps till the end of my cycle. It ****ing sucks.
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Fermbiz said:
Last billing cycle, they didn't throttle me. I got up to 9gb of data.
Now I'm capped at 57kbps till the end of my cycle. It ****ing sucks.
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I've been in the same position. Yes, it does suck, 'specially when you're going SLOWER than dial-up.
And 57kbps? When I got throttled, I only got 8kbps.
That's T-Mobile's way of saying F*CK YOU.

Their capping is terrible. Atleast give us a 1Mb instead of just giving us dial up speeds. Lol.
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frankth3frizz said:
Their capping is terrible. Atleast give us a 1Mb instead of just giving us dial up speeds. Lol.
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it does suck, but at least tmobile tells you when it will happen and doesn't deny doing it. *cough* sprint.....
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frankth3frizz said:
Their capping is terrible. Atleast give us a 1Mb instead of just giving us dial up speeds. Lol.
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PaganAng3l said:
it does suck, but at least tmobile tells you when it will happen and doesn't deny doing it. *cough* sprint.....
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Its not a cap. Its a throttle. And would you rather have a 5GB throttle or a 2GB cap with overages? Because those are your 2 options, and if I were you I wouldn't complain too much about having a throttle. Believe it or not, unlimited data is pretty much done for in the US.

martonikaj said:
Its not a cap. Its a throttle. And would you rather have a 5GB throttle or a 2GB cap with overages? Because those are your 2 options, and if I were you I wouldn't complain too much about having a throttle. Believe it or not, unlimited data is pretty much done for in the US.
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Yea that's what I meant , was reading something about capping on home internet on OCN but yea I guess it is better than the cap from at&t and verizon but then at&t did buy tmobile so I wonder what will happen.
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So apparently not only does tmobile reduce speed when you go ever your max speed they charge you $1.99 per MB i think or i dont remmber but wth? when did that change? a couple of months ago i went over my 2GB and all i got was slow internet, now they actually charged me. any1 else know about this?

This change was only supposed to affect people who began new contracts/even more plans after that date in august or whenever. I called to confirm and it should not affect you if you began your contract earlier, it should only throttle your speed as you said. I would call customer service to get it cleared up.

They shouldn't charge you per MB on any 2GB smartphone plan. Only throttling applies AFAIK.
Per MB charges should be on dumbphone plans and plans like the 500mb/month allotment.

Well originally my plan was the unlimited and I changed it to the 2GB and when I called tmobile they said they charge by the MB.
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frankth3frizz said:
Well originally my plan was the unlimited and I changed it to the 2GB and when I called tmobile they said they charge by the MB.
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that can't be right....

You answered your own problem. You switched from unlimited, which consists of 2gb fast and unlimited throttled, to a 2gb plan. So anything over 2gb is in excess of your plan.
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tkess said:
You answered your own problem. You switched from unlimited, which consists of 2gb fast and unlimited throttled, to a 2gb plan. So anything over 2gb is in excess of your plan.
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Wait what? They have no speed plans. Its unlimited bandwith, 2GB bandwith and 200MB bandwidth. Idk if you have seen any tmobile ads but one of their main things when I got my contract renewed was there's no extra charge like at&t or verizon does, they just throttle ur internet.but idk I have to bring my mytouch 4G in for replacement and get it cleared up then.
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From my understanding they only charge you for going over if you're on the 200MB plan.
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Why slow down the internet?
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KaoMinerva said:
Why slow down the internet?
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That's how T-mobile chooses to control how much data people use. Rather than cap or charge overages, they just slow you down after a certain point.
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tkess said:
You answered your own problem. You switched from unlimited, which consists of 2gb fast and unlimited throttled, to a 2gb plan. So anything over 2gb is in excess of your plan.
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This sounds right, but I wasn't aware that T-mobile had a capped 2GB plan? That would have a lot of confusion with the "Unlimited" plans that just slow down at 2GB.

I would much rather have the throttle then an mb/$ after 2gbs.
Hit it once, had it for 2 days... it sucked lol.
Now I turn on wifi when at home and don't even get close to 2gigs
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Zephead said:
From my understanding they only charge you for going over if you're on the 200MB plan.
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This.
I went to the store and this is what they told me. I guess the person on the phone was wrong. Lol.
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frankth3frizz said:
This.
I went to the store and this is what they told me. I guess the person on the phone was wrong. Lol.
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Not surprised. Unless you get 3-4 levels deep into CS reps, you can't trust that info lol.

I have unlimited everything sprint and I hope they aren't going to start **** like this on my plan. I use internet alot and I don't want its slowed down
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KaoMinerva said:
I have unlimited everything sprint and I hope they aren't going to start **** like this on my plan. I use internet alot and I don't want its slowed down
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Sprint is already going to start capping WiFi tethering plans to 5GB, and has said that throttling connections in the future is not off the table.
It'll happen eventually. Probably after they get flooded with customers when the iPhone comes to their network. Happened to AT&T and Verizon.

I don't even know what wifi tethering is, I use the mobile hotspot..... Which I'm paying an extra $30 for!
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KaoMinerva said:
I don't even know what wifi tethering is, I use the mobile hotspot..... Which I'm paying an extra $30 for!
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Yeah. That's wifi tethering. And they're going to start capping the data you use there to 5GB.
If you're on XDA, how are you NOT rooting and tethering for free????

KaoMinerva said:
I don't even know what wifi tethering is, I use the mobile hotspot..... Which I'm paying an extra $30 for!
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I love the wifi tethering. I use it to give wifi to my friends and we play street fighter4 on our itouches against each other.
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That's bull****, why would they do that when I'm paying $30 extra
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KaoMinerva said:
That's bull****, why would they do that when I'm paying $30 extra
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I honestly don't know how I even got it, all I know is that its there and its free
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Unlimited Hotspot $25

Anyone see that T-mobile added full LTE unlimited Hotspot for an extra $25 to the new plans that start on thursday? I added it up and it's a few $$ more than What I am paying now for two lines, so I will probably get it.

It's LTE signal, but 512k speeds. It's basically the speeds you'd get on AOL using DSL back in 90s.

If you pay the extra $25 per month then you'll get High Speed LTE. If you just pay the regular plan price for Tmobile One then you'll be capped at Unlimited hotspot speeds of 512kbps.

Only time I use my Hotspot is when Comcast goes out, so I think I will stay with my 80 Unlimited Grandfathered in plan
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Unless it's changed, it's Unlimited LTE for the first 26 GB then it drops to lower speeds.

Yoshi1221 said:
Only time I use my Hotspot is when Comcast goes out, so I think I will stay with my 80 Unlimited Grandfathered in plan
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70 dollar grandfathered. Definitely not switching to this.

dkb218 said:
Unless it's changed, it's Unlimited LTE for the first 26 GB then it drops to lower speeds.
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This will be location specific. Deprioritization should only be noticeable on congested towers.

nvrblnk said:
This will be location specific. Deprioritization should only be noticeable on congested towers.
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I stand corrected. I'm gonna assume that any tower I'd be connected to in NYC would be congested.

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I stand corrected. I'm gonna assume that any tower I'd be connected to in NYC would be congested.
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Haha yeah, NYC would be very bad for it just due to the amount of connections to each tower.

I was on Verizon for the longest so I missed out on all the really good grandfathered plans. I am paying $250 for two lines right now. I work at a busy airport and have yet to see any deprioritization even during peak holiday season. Only thing I have always hit was that 14gb tether limit every month. I figured a lot of you would have great older plans but that unlimited tether option for anyone on the current deal is not bad. Only thing that sucks is the HD switch you have to hit every day.

messiahfreedom said:
70 dollar grandfathered. Definitely not switching to this.
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Same. 70 buck unlimited everything. Def not switching to the one+ plan.
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I barely use the 7 GB Hotspot data that comes with my plan now and then only connect to the Android head unit in my car.
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dkb218 said:
Unless it's changed, it's Unlimited LTE for the first 26 GB then it drops to lower speeds.
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The throttling only occurs in congested areas, for instance at work in the city if I'm over 26 gigs it'll be next to impossible to listen to podcasts but when I get home in the country the speeds are super fast again. It's all about where you are I guess