external HDD with 2 or more partitions not detected - Acer Iconia A500

hi ....
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anyone else got this problem ?
my external HDD has 280gb of fat32 and 40gb of ntfs

Which partition is first? If the fat32 is first, I would expect it to automount. The tablet doesn't support NTFS out of the box. Search these forums for NTFSMOUNT. That will allow you to mount the ntfs partition. If your fat32 is not first, you may need to mount it manually.
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Euclid's Brother said:
Which partition is first? If the fat32 is first, I would expect it to automount. The tablet doesn't support NTFS out of the box. Search these forums for NTFSMOUNT. That will allow you to mount the ntfs partition. If your fat32 is not first, you may need to mount it manually.
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the fat32 is first, then the ntfs
i tried ntfs mount, it wont show the device at all
iconia wont detect my hdd at all
actually does anyone here tried hdd with partitions ?

That's odd that it doesn't pick up the first partition. Even a drive that isn't split has partitions on it.

muqali said:
That's odd that it doesn't pick up the first partition. Even a drive that isn't split has partitions on it.
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yeah.. thats it...
is my hdd not supported or what?
is there any compatibility hdd list for iconia ??
cause if i plug my 4gb thumb it will directly recognized ..

My Cruzer USB drive has a cdfs and fat32 partitiin, the main (fat32) partition is fine but won't show the cdfs volume.
I suspect the mount scripts are written for single volume drives or primary partition only.

Could it be that it's a Dynamic drive instead of a Basic Drive? When you connect it to windows and look at the drive partition, it should say in the left border of the drive. Not sure if Android can read a Dynamic drive. Worth a check..

Vereynn said:
My Cruzer USB drive has a cdfs and fat32 partitiin, the main (fat32) partition is fine but won't show the cdfs volume.
I suspect the mount scripts are written for single volume drives or primary partition only.
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Vereynn, I'm assuming it's a U3 Sandisk Cruzer. They make an app(Sandisk does) that removes U3 from it. U3 is notoriously insecure and they dropped support for it anyway. If you want it or need help finding it I can point you in that direction. Only thing I could think of is maybe the Iconia doesn't support GPT partitions, only MBR/MSDOS style. Why a 320GB USB drive would have that I don't know though, unless you specifically set it up like that with parted or something.

Euclid's Brother said:
Could it be that it's a Dynamic drive instead of a Basic Drive? When you connect it to windows and look at the drive partition, it should say in the left border of the drive. Not sure if Android can read a Dynamic drive. Worth a check..
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i am using MAC OSX
how can i check ?

I'm pretty sure OS X doesn't support dynamic drives, so I doubt he has one.

muqali said:
Vereynn, I'm assuming it's a U3 Sandisk Cruzer. They make an app(Sandisk does) that removes U3 from it. U3 is notoriously insecure and they dropped support for it anyway. If you want it or need help finding it I can point you in that direction. Only thing I could think of is maybe the Iconia doesn't support GPT partitions, only MBR/MSDOS style. Why a 320GB USB drive would have that I don't know though, unless you specifically set it up like that with parted or something.
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Yep, it's a U3 device. I don't actually use it for much, I got one of the Costco 4packs a while back and they all just sit around my desk now, but it's the only external drive I have with multiple volumes on it for testing So thanks but no real reason for killing the U3 "CD" partition, it's heading for a landfill eventually
My normal go-to USB stick is a 16GB Toshiba with a single FAT32 volume.
One of these days I'll put one of my HP laptop drives back into its DIY external case and see what the Iconia thinks about it. 3 partitions I think (one for BIOS, one NTFS for normal use and a FAT32 for recovery images)

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[Q] Direct usb connection

When connecting any external storage or card reader with usb cable direct to my Iconia A500 tab, Astro Manager states on usb storage "directory is empty". This happens with all 4 storage units I have tried this with. What is wrong? Anybody? Thanks a million.
Are your devices formated FAT32? Stock Iconia will not recognize NTFS filesystems. Just a thought.
I get the same thing with my drives which are formatted with ext3. My sd cards which are FAT32 are read fine with a card reader.
FAT32 is the only thing I've tested and it works. It's amusing that a linux based OS has ext support removed. Guess tablets don't need >4GB files.
I downloaded the A500 User Manual yesterday and read through it. The Manual states that USB drives need to be formatted for either FAT or FAT32 to be read.
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muqali said:
FAT32 is the only thing I've tested and it works. It's amusing that a linux based OS has ext support removed. Guess tablets don't need >4GB files.
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I thought it strange that ext wouldn't be supported...but what do I know.
butterflygirl said:
I thought it strange that ext wouldn't be supported...but what do I know.
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Apparently more than the moron engineer at Acer who thought to not include modules for ext and NTFS.
I connected a ntfs160 GB USB hdd to my a500 and it worked out the box. Also I was able to tether my desire using wifi. I don't understand why people are having to mod to do this.
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my iconia cant detect all external HDD i tried (about 10)

hi...
as the title...
who all are succeded in connecting usb external hdd to iconia ?
cause i tried with two, and booth are not recognized
one is pendrive sense 320gb, second is wd 250gb
all you who can connect, whats your hdd??
fyi, i can connect card reader and usb thumb drive
UPDATE
OKEY..
so i tried connecting my hdd through a powered usb hub, and still no luck,
i tried connect it with a Y cable, one to iconia and onte to powered hub, also no luck ...
is there any other way to try ? tried every thing from usb mount all, ntfs mount, charging while plugging , usb powered, new HDD, fat32 formatted , ntfs HDD and all in vain...
if not then, i am sure my device is defective of something....
How were they formatted? At those sizes, I'm going to guess they were formatted to NTFS which Android cannot read natively. There is, however, a thread in the Development section which includes a driver to enable NTFS support on the A500.
FloatingFatMan said:
How were they formatted? At those sizes, I'm going to guess they were formatted to NTFS which Android cannot read natively. There is, however, a thread in the Development section which includes a driver to enable NTFS support on the A500.
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the first one have fat32 and nts partition, but the second one have 250gb full of fat32
i have installed ntfs mount and usb mount all, they just are not detected at all..
I just got my tab today, rooted and installed ntfs mount. No problems getting into my 500gig external hdd, formatted in ntfs.
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I tried both 320gb Seagate and 750gb passport worked fine...They both formatted in fat32.
HM.. IT SEEMS , ONLY I CANT Get my hdd TO WORK IN ICONIA...
wonder why
is anyone here in asia or may be in indonesia??
may be this is rom related ?
l live in china ,very far from you .....
i still wait for the 3.1 update.
i am not sure can i receive ota update if i root it.
so i dont root ,and still wait.
well ,if i get the update of 3.1 ,i will come back and reply .
i have a 2T hdd, buffalo.
Okey... So now i have tried at least 6 different hdd and all failed...
I start to think ut is my hardware or rom problem?
Any solution ?
When i first connected a hdd i also thought it didn't work. When i looked at mnt/usb_storage.........no filelist. But when i got a cup of coffee and looked again the filelist was there. Apparantly the Acer needs a time to scan the HDD which can be long when it is large. So l'lle patience.
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urbie47 said:
When i first connected a hdd i also thought it didn't work. When i looked at mnt/usb_storage.........no filelist. But when i got a cup of coffee and looked again the filelist was there. Apparantly the Acer needs a time to scan the HDD which can be long when it is large. So l'lle patience.
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how long actually ??
becauuse if this problem persist, i think i will take my device to the service centre,
btw, do they will know that i am rooted ?
last update : i have connected my hdd to iconia for about an hour without any luck,.
come on, do some one here can make a solution for me please ??
i can connect flash drive and card reader but not hdd, tried 6 different of them
even i asked in local acer forum in my country, everyone dont have problem...
so, what you think my problem here?
do i must do factory reset ?
interqd said:
HM.. IT SEEMS , ONLY I CANT Get my hdd TO WORK IN ICONIA...
wonder why
is anyone here in asia or may be in indonesia??
may be this is rom related ?
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Are you sure you have power (external) going into your HD? I tried a WD portable and it wouldn't be read by the A500 until I connected it to an external power supply. Then I could read it without any problems.
iCurmudgeon said:
Are you sure you have power (external) going into your HD? I tried a WD portable and it wouldn't be read by the A500 until I connected it to an external power supply. Then I could read it without any problems.
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how to connect it with external power supply ?
my hdd has only 1 usb slot, not 2 ..
Guy's....just download (HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool) to format your HD's to fat32. I did my 250 & 500GB HD and it work just find. Windows just don't format right...that's why I don't use windows to format my HD's. If you have Linux use Gparted.
I have
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14129262&postcount=8
I also have a 250gb that I can't get to read but then it needs dual-powered cable to be read on my laptop so I expected that. But my 320gb Buffalo, my 32gb Patriot and my 80gb Maxtor read just fine. All are NTFS. I have a 160gb from work that I will try tomorrow.
Connect it to windows and pull up the disk administrator (where you create partitions) and see if the disk is basic or dynamic? Just a hunch... have you tried different cables? And finally I want to be sure you are plugging it into the full sized USB pert and not the micro USB.
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Euclid's Brother said:
Connect it to windows and pull up the disk administrator (where you create partitions) and see if the disk is basic or dynamic? Just a hunch... have you tried different cables? And finally I want to be sure you are plugging it into the full sized USB pert and not the micro USB.
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i am using mac, not windows, my hdd connect fine to mac, how to do this on mac?
not only different cables, yesterday i went to an it mall, there i tried almost 5 different 500gb hdd 2.5 inch, all failed, all have fat32 format, cause i checked them on my mac beforehand
yeah, of course i connect it to the usb 2.0 port..
this is what i dont understand, everyones hdd work fine in the iconia, why my iconia just cant read?
mine don't work either. I have a 1 TB western digital hard drive.
i use ntfs mount,first time install that ntfs mount apk...cant read my hdd but aftter reboot my iconia all partition on hdd can read and walk normal like on my laptop
I'm in Jakarta, so I don't think it can be a rom thing. Are you using NTFS mount, or just trying to plug the HDD into your tab and use the built-in software? Try this and it should fix the problem.

[Q] Transfer files from N7 to External Hdd

Good Morning
I am having a panic, i am going on holiday soon and i take lots of photos. I have just got the N7 and i have managed to put photos onto the N7 via an OTG cable + card reader with SD card inserted and using Nexus Media Importer. Now i can see them and select them in the gallery but when i plug in my Ext Hdd then N7 recognises it but i can transfer the photos over.
What am i doing wrong
Tansk in advance
Slaine
Be rooted and install StickMount.
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slainesco said:
What am i doing wrong
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You failed to appreciate the significance of the word "Importer" in the app's name.
bftb0 said:
You failed to appreciate the significance of the word "Importer" in the app's name.
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is there a good exporter app then
when i attached my fat32 1tb hdd i use stickmount and it says MBR signature not found
any ideas
slainesco said:
is there a good exporter app then
when i attached my fat32 1tb hdd i use stickmount and it says MBR signature not found
any ideas
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You've barely said anything meaningful about your device - for instance if it is rooted (& what ROM and kernel you are using if so).
Your mileage will depend on both the kernel and ROM you have installed. I would think that most kernels should support FAT32, but the ROM used (e.g. stock) may not have an automounter/vold which will automatically mount the device as soon as it is plugged in.
For example, this is why people will use StickMount on lightly-rooted stock, but don't need it at all with CM10.1 - the stock kernel supports mounting of FAT HDDs, but the stock ROM doesn't take any actions automatically when they are plugged in.
Right now I'm running a recent CM10.1 nightly & just plugged into my N7:
1) a 8 GB FAT32 uSD card on a reader
2) a 150 GB HDD formatted in NTFS
In both cases, the USB device mounted (without any intervention on my part) successfully - but with the NTFS HDD in read-only mode. I would think it would have mounted the HDD in R/W mode had it been a FAT filesystem. Dismounting the devices was available via Settings->Storage.
Once you've got the device mounted, any root-aware file browser app should allow you (in principle) the ability to copy files bi-directionally. The "in principle" part is that I see reports on here complaining about successful mounts but no files showing up... so you are probably going to need to experiment.
good luck
PS I believe that SD cards in card readers can be written by Media Importer - why this doesn't extend to FAT HDDs I don't really know.
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You've barely said anything meaningful about your device - for instance if it is rooted (& what ROM and kernel you are using if so).
Your mileage will depend on both the kernel and ROM you have installed. I would think that most kernels should support FAT32, but the ROM used (e.g. stock) may not have an automounter/vold which will automatically mount the device as soon as it is plugged in.
For example, this is why people will use StickMount on lightly-rooted stock, but don't need it at all with CM10.1 - the stock kernel supports mounting of FAT HDDs, but the stock ROM doesn't take any actions automatically when they are plugged in.
Right now I'm running a recent CM10.1 nightly & just plugged into my N7:
1) a 8 GB FAT32 uSD card on a reader
2) a 150 GB HDD formatted in NTFS
In both cases, the USB device mounted (without any intervention on my part) successfully - but with the NTFS HDD in read-only mode. I would think it would have mounted the HDD in R/W mode had it been a FAT filesystem. Dismounting the devices was available via Settings->Storage.
Once you've got the device mounted, any root-aware file browser app should allow you (in principle) the ability to copy files bi-directionally. The "in principle" part is that I see reports on here complaining about successful mounts but no files showing up... so you are probably going to need to experiment.
good luck
PS I believe that SD cards in card readers can be written by Media Importer - why this doesn't extend to FAT HDDs I don't really know.
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Sorry for the lack off info. I have only had the N7 for over a week and it isnt rooted as up until one hour ago i hadnt a clue what that meant. So i guess it is stock and ive sinced realised Stickmount wont work.
I can mount a 32gb stick no hassles but the fat32 1tb external hdd with power supply just comes up with mbr signature not found
thanks

[Q] help using external hard drive

Hello all.
I have a quick question about using an external hard drive with my nexus 10. I bought a Fantom Drives desktop style external (with power adapter) to use with my macbook air, my girlfriends win7 laptop, and my nexus 10. I prepped the tablet by rooting it and installing StickMount because I read that was the only way to write to usb storage.
When I plug up the external with my usbOTG cable, it recognizes it and it shows up in Androzip, but none of the files that I put on it from windows show up, and also it will not let me write to it from the tablet either. When I try to write to it (a very small photo), it says "Could not move folder due to system restrictions". I have tried reading and writing to the drive from the tablet with it formatted in NTFS and also with it formatted in exFAT.
Am I just out of luck and the drive will not work with my nexus, or are there any other troubleshooting options I can try? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
jonmike13 said:
Hello all.
I have a quick question about using an external hard drive with my nexus 10. I bought a Fantom Drives desktop style external (with power adapter) to use with my macbook air, my girlfriends win7 laptop, and my nexus 10. I prepped the tablet by rooting it and installing StickMount because I read that was the only way to write to usb storage.
When I plug up the external with my usbOTG cable, it recognizes it and it shows up in Androzip, but none of the files that I put on it from windows show up, and also it will not let me write to it from the tablet either. When I try to write to it (a very small photo), it says "Could not move folder due to system restrictions". I have tried reading and writing to the drive from the tablet with it formatted in NTFS and also with it formatted in exFAT.
Am I just out of luck and the drive will not work with my nexus, or are there any other troubleshooting options I can try? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Try converting the drive to fat32. It should read and write well then!
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Try converting the drive to fat32. It should read and write well then!
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Unfortunately wont FAT32 cap at 4gb? Also, forgive my ignorance but what can I do to format it in FAT32 because my only format options in windows were exFAT and NTFS.
Thanks for the reply!
jonmike13 said:
Unfortunately wont FAT32 cap at 4gb? Also, forgive my ignorance but what can I do to format it in FAT32 because my only format options in windows were exFAT and NTFS.
Thanks for the reply!
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got it to work!! used the Verbatim fat32 format tool. It recognizes all 2 terabytes of space and reads and writes on the nexus 10. Thanks so much for the help!! Very pleased to be able to use my new external with the tablet. Now I just have to play the waiting game for my new Macbook Air to show up
jonmike13 said:
got it to work!! used the Verbatim fat32 format tool. It recognizes all 2 terabytes of space and reads and writes on the nexus 10. Thanks so much for the help!! Very pleased to be able to use my new external with the tablet. Now I just have to play the waiting game for my new Macbook Air to show up
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Nothing at all! The downside of fat32 is that indeed there is a limit for the size of an individual file. You can't write files bigger than 4gb. Also if you try a custom kernel with ntfs support you will be able to read from ntfs but not surely write..!
c1oud said:
Nothing at all! The downside of fat32 is that indeed there is a limit for the size of an individual file. You can't write files bigger than 4gb. Also if you try a custom kernel with ntfs support you will be able to read from ntfs but not surely write..!
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You can sometimes do NTFS-write. It's not unheard of. The downsides of FAT32 are also a lot worse than what you described: it's significantly more prone to corruption and doesn't handle unexpected ejections nearly as well because it's not journalled, and has no support at all for permissions. But for performance and convenience reasons, it really can't be beat at the moment.
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You can sometimes do NTFS-write. It's not unheard of. The downsides of FAT32 are also a lot worse than what you described: it's significantly more prone to corruption and doesn't handle unexpected ejections nearly as well because it's not journalled, and has no support at all for permissions. But for performance and convenience reasons, it really can't be beat at the moment.
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I can write and read with my note 2. However i tried with stock kernel ntfs and nothing happens. I think that in terms of speed ntfs is also faster.
c1oud said:
I can write and read with my note 2. However i tried with stock kernel ntfs and nothing happens. I think that in terms of speed ntfs is also faster.
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Should have clarified. It's a kernel support thing.

NTFS support for USB-OTG?

Hi was wondering if it is possible to format my 64gb pen drive to NTFS and get my G2 to recognise it using a USB-OTG?
mimicuk said:
Hi was wondering if it is possible to format my 64gb pen drive to NTFS and get my G2 to recognise it using a USB-OTG?
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It doesn't appear to recognize it on mine. I tried a Sandisk Ultra 32GB that I've used on my Samsung TV, and it couldn't handle it. It could handle FAT32 on a Sandisk Cruzer using the same OTG adapter.
Disappointing if you want to access large files. I'm going to try ext3 next.
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I formated it on my Linux system, and it does read ext2, if you have that available. If you need large files, then that would be one solution. Maybe you can install NTFS-3G support, which is what Linux uses.
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It doesn't appear to recognize it on mine. I tried a Sandisk Ultra 32GB that I've used on my Samsung TV, and it couldn't handle it. It could handle FAT32 on a Sandisk Cruzer using the same OTG adapter.
Disappointing if you want to access large files. I'm going to try ext3 next.
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I formated it on my Linux system, and it does read ext2, if you have that available. If you need large files, then that would be one solution. Maybe you can install NTFS-3G support, which is what Linux uses.
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you can use exfat...and it recognize well
anyen said:
you can use exfat...and it recognize well
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That's good to know for those that use windows. For Linux, which I use, it would take some work to get it, whereas ext2 is standard, stable, and works.
Perhaps F2FS (Flash Friendly File System, from Samsung) would be another possibility, although I don't know if it's available at all.
Hi guys, if you want NTFS support on your LG G2 all you have to do is install Paragon exFAT, NTFS & HFS+.
Googled for G2 OTG NTFS support, came in here, tried Paragon and came back to tell you it worked flawlesly with my NTFS 1tb 2,5" external hdd.
thanks man .. tested with lg g2 kitkat stock rom .. just mounted onstorage\usb storage 1..2 ..3 .. you can even format your hdd :-o

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