When connecting any external storage or card reader with usb cable direct to my Iconia A500 tab, Astro Manager states on usb storage "directory is empty". This happens with all 4 storage units I have tried this with. What is wrong? Anybody? Thanks a million.
Are your devices formated FAT32? Stock Iconia will not recognize NTFS filesystems. Just a thought.
I get the same thing with my drives which are formatted with ext3. My sd cards which are FAT32 are read fine with a card reader.
FAT32 is the only thing I've tested and it works. It's amusing that a linux based OS has ext support removed. Guess tablets don't need >4GB files.
I downloaded the A500 User Manual yesterday and read through it. The Manual states that USB drives need to be formatted for either FAT or FAT32 to be read.
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muqali said:
FAT32 is the only thing I've tested and it works. It's amusing that a linux based OS has ext support removed. Guess tablets don't need >4GB files.
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I thought it strange that ext wouldn't be supported...but what do I know.
butterflygirl said:
I thought it strange that ext wouldn't be supported...but what do I know.
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Apparently more than the moron engineer at Acer who thought to not include modules for ext and NTFS.
I connected a ntfs160 GB USB hdd to my a500 and it worked out the box. Also I was able to tether my desire using wifi. I don't understand why people are having to mod to do this.
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anyone else got this problem ?
my external HDD has 280gb of fat32 and 40gb of ntfs
Which partition is first? If the fat32 is first, I would expect it to automount. The tablet doesn't support NTFS out of the box. Search these forums for NTFSMOUNT. That will allow you to mount the ntfs partition. If your fat32 is not first, you may need to mount it manually.
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Which partition is first? If the fat32 is first, I would expect it to automount. The tablet doesn't support NTFS out of the box. Search these forums for NTFSMOUNT. That will allow you to mount the ntfs partition. If your fat32 is not first, you may need to mount it manually.
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the fat32 is first, then the ntfs
i tried ntfs mount, it wont show the device at all
iconia wont detect my hdd at all
actually does anyone here tried hdd with partitions ?
That's odd that it doesn't pick up the first partition. Even a drive that isn't split has partitions on it.
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That's odd that it doesn't pick up the first partition. Even a drive that isn't split has partitions on it.
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yeah.. thats it...
is my hdd not supported or what?
is there any compatibility hdd list for iconia ??
cause if i plug my 4gb thumb it will directly recognized ..
My Cruzer USB drive has a cdfs and fat32 partitiin, the main (fat32) partition is fine but won't show the cdfs volume.
I suspect the mount scripts are written for single volume drives or primary partition only.
Could it be that it's a Dynamic drive instead of a Basic Drive? When you connect it to windows and look at the drive partition, it should say in the left border of the drive. Not sure if Android can read a Dynamic drive. Worth a check..
Vereynn said:
My Cruzer USB drive has a cdfs and fat32 partitiin, the main (fat32) partition is fine but won't show the cdfs volume.
I suspect the mount scripts are written for single volume drives or primary partition only.
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Vereynn, I'm assuming it's a U3 Sandisk Cruzer. They make an app(Sandisk does) that removes U3 from it. U3 is notoriously insecure and they dropped support for it anyway. If you want it or need help finding it I can point you in that direction. Only thing I could think of is maybe the Iconia doesn't support GPT partitions, only MBR/MSDOS style. Why a 320GB USB drive would have that I don't know though, unless you specifically set it up like that with parted or something.
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Could it be that it's a Dynamic drive instead of a Basic Drive? When you connect it to windows and look at the drive partition, it should say in the left border of the drive. Not sure if Android can read a Dynamic drive. Worth a check..
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i am using MAC OSX
how can i check ?
I'm pretty sure OS X doesn't support dynamic drives, so I doubt he has one.
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Vereynn, I'm assuming it's a U3 Sandisk Cruzer. They make an app(Sandisk does) that removes U3 from it. U3 is notoriously insecure and they dropped support for it anyway. If you want it or need help finding it I can point you in that direction. Only thing I could think of is maybe the Iconia doesn't support GPT partitions, only MBR/MSDOS style. Why a 320GB USB drive would have that I don't know though, unless you specifically set it up like that with parted or something.
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Yep, it's a U3 device. I don't actually use it for much, I got one of the Costco 4packs a while back and they all just sit around my desk now, but it's the only external drive I have with multiple volumes on it for testing So thanks but no real reason for killing the U3 "CD" partition, it's heading for a landfill eventually
My normal go-to USB stick is a 16GB Toshiba with a single FAT32 volume.
One of these days I'll put one of my HP laptop drives back into its DIY external case and see what the Iconia thinks about it. 3 partitions I think (one for BIOS, one NTFS for normal use and a FAT32 for recovery images)
Have a old 60gb external USB 2.0 hdd - formatted fresh using FAT - drive tests fine.
Cannot seem to get my a500 to use it - tried the "drive mount" tool from the market and I see my hdd under unmounted devices, when I try to mount it I get "driver for sda1 failed to load".
Running 3.1 early release, rooted.
One more question I had about USB - can I plug a powered or unpowered USB hub into the a500 and use both external keyboard / mouse at the same time?
(Edit: issue resolved. For some reason a full format using FAT produced a bad volume, whereas a full ntfs format worked like a charm. Next step: powered USB hub and I am gonna be so happy)
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Is it in a old drive bay.some of the older external drive bays take alot of power. If it has a external power adaptor you might have to use it pluged iin. And trybto have your tablet pouted into power outlet as well.it helps with my 3.5 500 gig drive bay
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Yup - it's a older model and requires external power, which was plugged in - as well as the tab.
Formatted drive using Windows 7 - FAT was not a option, only exFAT or ntfs. Did full format.
Mount utility sees the drive - just cannot mount it. Might try a reformat from a older system and see if that helps.
entropy.of.avarice said:
Have a old 60gb external USB 2.0 hdd - formatted fresh using FAT - drive tests fine.
Cannot seem to get my a500 to use it - tried the "drive mount" tool from the market and I see my hdd under unmounted devices, when I try to mount it I get "driver for sda1 failed to load".
Running 3.1 early release, rooted.
One more question I had about USB - can I plug a powered or unpowered USB hub into the a500 and use both external keyboard / mouse at the same time?
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Try formatting to ntfs, then use this to mount it. Works with my 750 gb external drive and it shows up under memory in settings. Also, yes both types of USB hubs, should work.
OK so I'm new and I can't post a link to Mega upload, but I can PM you the link if you like.
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Try formatting to ntfs, then use this to mount it. Works with my 750 gb external drive and it shows up under memory in settings. Also, yes both types of USB hubs, should work.
OK so I'm new and I can't post a link to Mega upload, but I can PM you the link if you like.
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You nailed it - works like a charm. Thank you very much - going out of town soon, really need the storage.
Now if I could just *find* my damn USB hub
Which software you guys use for formating the hdd??....which format you guys use....?...can I use pupply linux for formating the hdd??
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Which software you guys use for formating the hdd??....which format you guys use....?...can I use pupply linux for formating the hdd??
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I am doing this on a rooted a500 running the early release of 3.1 - just used my Windows 7 desktop to format the drive as NTFS - using a free software package from market called "drive mount" which can mount lots of different devices. If you are not rooted - pretty sure the USB drive has to be FAT file system for it to work.
Sure, you can use Linux for the format - plenty of freeware tools for Linux that will do this for you in a nice GUI setting
I was planning pn using the gparted partition manager on puppy linux..........is it good enough?......and will my hdd suffer memory loss when I format it to fat32??
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I was planning pn using the gparted partition manager on puppy linux..........is it good enough?......and will my hdd suffer memory loss when I format it to fat32??
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Generally reformatting a drive will delete all data on said drive. Would recommend backing it all up, formatting it - and restoring it.
Do you have root on your Iconica? If so - you should be able to mount the drive pretty much regardless of what format it is in - what type of file system is it?
I haven't rooted my device......and I meant free memory loss.....would the hdd size decrease??
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Hello all.
I have a quick question about using an external hard drive with my nexus 10. I bought a Fantom Drives desktop style external (with power adapter) to use with my macbook air, my girlfriends win7 laptop, and my nexus 10. I prepped the tablet by rooting it and installing StickMount because I read that was the only way to write to usb storage.
When I plug up the external with my usbOTG cable, it recognizes it and it shows up in Androzip, but none of the files that I put on it from windows show up, and also it will not let me write to it from the tablet either. When I try to write to it (a very small photo), it says "Could not move folder due to system restrictions". I have tried reading and writing to the drive from the tablet with it formatted in NTFS and also with it formatted in exFAT.
Am I just out of luck and the drive will not work with my nexus, or are there any other troubleshooting options I can try? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Hello all.
I have a quick question about using an external hard drive with my nexus 10. I bought a Fantom Drives desktop style external (with power adapter) to use with my macbook air, my girlfriends win7 laptop, and my nexus 10. I prepped the tablet by rooting it and installing StickMount because I read that was the only way to write to usb storage.
When I plug up the external with my usbOTG cable, it recognizes it and it shows up in Androzip, but none of the files that I put on it from windows show up, and also it will not let me write to it from the tablet either. When I try to write to it (a very small photo), it says "Could not move folder due to system restrictions". I have tried reading and writing to the drive from the tablet with it formatted in NTFS and also with it formatted in exFAT.
Am I just out of luck and the drive will not work with my nexus, or are there any other troubleshooting options I can try? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Try converting the drive to fat32. It should read and write well then!
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Try converting the drive to fat32. It should read and write well then!
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Unfortunately wont FAT32 cap at 4gb? Also, forgive my ignorance but what can I do to format it in FAT32 because my only format options in windows were exFAT and NTFS.
Thanks for the reply!
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Unfortunately wont FAT32 cap at 4gb? Also, forgive my ignorance but what can I do to format it in FAT32 because my only format options in windows were exFAT and NTFS.
Thanks for the reply!
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got it to work!! used the Verbatim fat32 format tool. It recognizes all 2 terabytes of space and reads and writes on the nexus 10. Thanks so much for the help!! Very pleased to be able to use my new external with the tablet. Now I just have to play the waiting game for my new Macbook Air to show up
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got it to work!! used the Verbatim fat32 format tool. It recognizes all 2 terabytes of space and reads and writes on the nexus 10. Thanks so much for the help!! Very pleased to be able to use my new external with the tablet. Now I just have to play the waiting game for my new Macbook Air to show up
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Nothing at all! The downside of fat32 is that indeed there is a limit for the size of an individual file. You can't write files bigger than 4gb. Also if you try a custom kernel with ntfs support you will be able to read from ntfs but not surely write..!
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Nothing at all! The downside of fat32 is that indeed there is a limit for the size of an individual file. You can't write files bigger than 4gb. Also if you try a custom kernel with ntfs support you will be able to read from ntfs but not surely write..!
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You can sometimes do NTFS-write. It's not unheard of. The downsides of FAT32 are also a lot worse than what you described: it's significantly more prone to corruption and doesn't handle unexpected ejections nearly as well because it's not journalled, and has no support at all for permissions. But for performance and convenience reasons, it really can't be beat at the moment.
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You can sometimes do NTFS-write. It's not unheard of. The downsides of FAT32 are also a lot worse than what you described: it's significantly more prone to corruption and doesn't handle unexpected ejections nearly as well because it's not journalled, and has no support at all for permissions. But for performance and convenience reasons, it really can't be beat at the moment.
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I can write and read with my note 2. However i tried with stock kernel ntfs and nothing happens. I think that in terms of speed ntfs is also faster.
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I can write and read with my note 2. However i tried with stock kernel ntfs and nothing happens. I think that in terms of speed ntfs is also faster.
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Should have clarified. It's a kernel support thing.
Hi was wondering if it is possible to format my 64gb pen drive to NTFS and get my G2 to recognise it using a USB-OTG?
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Hi was wondering if it is possible to format my 64gb pen drive to NTFS and get my G2 to recognise it using a USB-OTG?
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It doesn't appear to recognize it on mine. I tried a Sandisk Ultra 32GB that I've used on my Samsung TV, and it couldn't handle it. It could handle FAT32 on a Sandisk Cruzer using the same OTG adapter.
Disappointing if you want to access large files. I'm going to try ext3 next.
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I formated it on my Linux system, and it does read ext2, if you have that available. If you need large files, then that would be one solution. Maybe you can install NTFS-3G support, which is what Linux uses.
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It doesn't appear to recognize it on mine. I tried a Sandisk Ultra 32GB that I've used on my Samsung TV, and it couldn't handle it. It could handle FAT32 on a Sandisk Cruzer using the same OTG adapter.
Disappointing if you want to access large files. I'm going to try ext3 next.
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I formated it on my Linux system, and it does read ext2, if you have that available. If you need large files, then that would be one solution. Maybe you can install NTFS-3G support, which is what Linux uses.
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you can use exfat...and it recognize well
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you can use exfat...and it recognize well
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That's good to know for those that use windows. For Linux, which I use, it would take some work to get it, whereas ext2 is standard, stable, and works.
Perhaps F2FS (Flash Friendly File System, from Samsung) would be another possibility, although I don't know if it's available at all.
Hi guys, if you want NTFS support on your LG G2 all you have to do is install Paragon exFAT, NTFS & HFS+.
Googled for G2 OTG NTFS support, came in here, tried Paragon and came back to tell you it worked flawlesly with my NTFS 1tb 2,5" external hdd.
thanks man .. tested with lg g2 kitkat stock rom .. just mounted onstorage\usb storage 1..2 ..3 .. you can even format your hdd :-o
I know it only supports FAT32, but until i lost my adapter that came with my Samsung 10 it used to read the ntfs flash no problem, but now says unsupported file structure. I was also using a different flash that was lost with the adapter. I bought the same adapter on ebay but using a different flash. Could that be the problem? Im not rooted, but that didnt matter before. Want to be able to transfer movies over 4GB like i have until this week. Thanks
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I know it only supports FAT32, but until i lost my adapter that came with my Samsung 10 it used to read the ntfs flash no problem, but now says unsupported file structure. I was also using a different flash that was lost with the adapter. I bought the same adapter on ebay but using a different flash. Could that be the problem? Im not rooted, but that didnt matter before. Want to be able to transfer movies over 4GB like i have until this week. Thanks
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NTFS is designed for the Microsoft Windows operating systems, not on some Android devices.
You can try to format as exFAT or FAT32. exFAT is same as NTFS.
You can transfer your movies using MTP.
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NTFS is designed for the Microsoft Windows operating systems, not on some Android devices.
You can try to format as exFAT or FAT32. exFAT is same as NTFS.
You can transfer your movies using MTP.
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Exfat didnt work either same error as with NTFS.
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Exfat didnt work either same error as with NTFS.
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Because Amazon doesn't pay to Microsoft to use NTFS and ExFAT.
You can transfer your media from your PC to Fire tablet using USB.
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Because Amazon doesn't pay to Microsoft to use NTFS and ExFAT.
You can transfer your media from your PC to Fire tablet using USB.
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but it DID work before. I guess no one can explain how this was possible then and not now. I keep the tablet at work and bring flash drives to transfer movies. Wanted to be able to transfer movies over 4 gig, but guess ive lost the ability to do that now.
You could try exFAT/NTFS for USB by Paragon. Maybe that can read the drive