petition to google to get attention from motorola (UK users) - Xoom General

we all know that motorola keep ignoring us on the EU side on the xoom.
forget the 3.1 update for the moment. we don't even have a stock rom to restore yet.
wondering will it be better if we get a petition going to google so that google can give motorola some pressure to give us more attention? maybe on the 3.1 updates?
http://getsatisfaction.com/motorola/topics/stock_rom_upgrade_for_xoom_eu
try liking this, see if they will response.
GROUBAL..
http://www.groubal.com/google-rom-support-for-european-xoom-3g-and-wifi/

If you set one up, I'll sign it.

This is my first Motorola for a very long time (said I wouldnt by from them again after discovering the build quailty of their phones years ago), I would not have brought it if I have known this would be the situation.
I may yet ditch it for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 when it comes out, unless this get sorted. Its very poor, I've had my Galaxy S2 for two weeks and its already have two firmware updates and has had a recovery rom from day 1.

sure, i would love to setup one up, but unless there is a big amount of ppl "liking" it, i don't think it will help.
i will set one up anyway and update the post later.

Same here
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lets try this, see if it helps.
http://getsatisfaction.com/motorola/topics/stock_rom_upgrade_for_xoom_eu

liked it

liked here too, im considering ditching this to go to another tablet, possibly the galaxy tab, not sure yet however

not bad, moto needs to get going with the sdcard update

done my bit

trying our luck on groubal
http://www.groubal.com/google-rom-support-for-european-xoom-3g-and-wifi/

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When/If there will be an official 2.2 for the Aria

I've seen lots of information flying around on Engadget and the like about HTC 2.2 updates forthcoming, but I have yet to see anything at all about the Aria.
Does anyone have any idea if HTC / AT&T intend to update the Aria to 2.2? Of course I know if they don't, we have some guys working hard on unofficial versions. Just would like to know if we'll get anything official...
HTC has stated they're working on it, and they "hope to have it done by christmas" but I wouldn't hold my breath for it to get thru HTC and AT&T for the Aria by then. Last I can remember, the HTC Wildfire was listed as getting the update and the Aria is very similar to said device. I also recall hearing that HTC said all the devices released past a certain point this year (Aria falls within this range) will be getting 2.2. I'm sure the Aria will get it, but again, I wouldn't hold my breath, CM6 will most likely be in full functioning order before official Froyo
Will definitely be trying out CM6 as soon as it gets in a little more working order! Definitely not holding my breath on HTC + AT&T...especially not the AT&T part of that equation.
Nothing official about the Aria, but HTC Evo is getting some official 2.2 Froyo loving tomorrow.
Maybe with that, we can hope for an earlier release for the Aria.
I wont hold my breath, the Motorola Back flip have been out for how long and its still on the launch firmware. ATT will take their sweet time when HTC releases it to them, best chance is that someone here gets their hand on is and bakes a 2.2 with HTC Sense rom for Aria users to flash with.
Thundervore said:
I wont hold my breath, the Motorola Back flip have been out for how long and its still on the launch firmware. ATT will take their sweet time when HTC releases it to them, best chance is that someone here gets their hand on is and bakes a 2.2 with HTC Sense rom for Aria users to flash with.
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Considering how the Backflip went, this isn't surprising. Why could a company back a device that isn't doing much on it's own already?
Might be coming sooner than some of you expect. HTC seems to be getting serious about froyo
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/htc-beginning-froyo-rollout-tomorrow-maybe-maybe-not/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/htc-will-ship-all-android-phones-in-china-with-froyo-on-board-f/
Granted we'll have to deal with att.
I think we will see one, but it will be a pain to install. The phone, for whatever reason, cannot accepted over-the-air (OTA) updates... there's no option in the settings to see if there is an update like most other android phones. HTC has said you will need to use HTC sync to upgrade. (Though I'm sure many of the people here at xda will have no problem loading the ROM via Sync or other ways, for regular users this could be a pain.)
Thought I'd share. I found this bit of info on the htc support forums in the aria section.
Posted by HeavenLee on 22 Jul 2010 2:12 PM
Whne there is an update for the Aria-it will have to be loaded from a PC to your device. The good news is that after the first update for the Aria, Firmware Over The Air will be implemented so that any subsequent updates will arrive to your device over the Air once their are released. Currently, there are no updates for the Aria OS-they are in the works.
So it is quite possible we may be getting froyo because she said it's "in the works." One of the other HTC forum moderators said it may take a while because it will be "tested and approved" by att and that we'll need to update it via sync.
So from what I understand, she said after the first update, there will be more updates released OTA. Froyo is gonna be a sync update so when she says any subsequent updates will arrive, does that mean she's hinting we'll be getting updates past froyo? Maybe we'll be able to get 3.0 ;P I mean what other updates will there be? lol
I'd LOVE to get 3.0, but I'll be happy with 2.2.
There is a post at Unwired review (can't post link until my account is verified.. not sure if there is a way to 'request' to be verified), but it's from Unwired Review. Just google "Android 3 Gingerbread."
But then there was an update to the post:
Update: I posted an update to this post, where I address Dan Morrill’s tweet, and do some corrections/clarifications regarding the upcoming Android update number issues, “minimum” specs – thay are actually only “recommended”, and the the split between high end Android 3 – low end Android 2.2 devices – it’s not an official Google policy, but it is happening nonetheless.
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So could we get it? Yes. And I think with the speed htc is pushing out the updates, it's not a question for them of "do we update the aria," it's the same question for many of their phones, since so many htc android phones are similiar inside and out.
Froyo for the Aria is something I have been looking forward to for a while now, and seeing it any later than October would be a huge letdown.
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It's October and No "promised update"..and the next day is?

Well apparently the End of September has come and gone. So my questions is this, When will we get any update? I say end of October for the minor update and November for 2.2. Oh and guess what, T-Mobile UK missed their deadline for 2.2:
http://phandroid.com/2010/09/30/t-mobile-uk-misses-end-of-the-month-window-for-galaxy-s-froyo/
Amazing phone Samsung. ..yet this is just another thread of disappointment.
yep,
Either Samsung, Tmobile, or both really let us down
I say Samsung..since it's not their first time...but then again T-mobile don't have a good history either...looks like both.
Why blame everything on Samsung? Give me one good helluva reason. While they should probably deserve partial blame, T-Mobile makes the final call. If T-Mobile says no, then we don't get the update. Simple. Oh, one more thing, T-Mobile UK != T-Mobile USA.
I have no idea what the hell is going on with T-Mobile on releasing updates, but if it's quality over speed, then I will gladly wait unlike most people.
I'm angry at T-Mobile for not giving us any of the possible updates that Samsung made. It makes no since that the Vibrant has been out the longest in the states and hasn't had a single OTA.
I blame Samsung for lack of Froyo. If they can make it run on the tab, they can make it run on the phones. I can't be mad a T-Mobile for that considering no Galaxy S phone has an official Froyo update on it yet.
I wonder what's taking so long, the Tab is basically an 'oversized' Galaxy S (relatively speaking here). If it is working on the Tab it shouldn't take much to port it to the phones.
unless of course, it is held out on purpose so it would not cannibalize the sales of the Tab. Purely my guess.
Its not so bad that its late, its that T Mobile and Samsung haven't kept us updated. A small status or progress update would go a long way.
clivo360 said:
Its not so bad that its late, its that T Mobile and Samsung haven't kept us updated. A small status or progress update would go a long way.
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Second that
Do you not think them saying an OTA will be available soon, is keeping you posted? It was probably pushed back after that clusterfuck of an OTA for the Captivate.
I believe Samsung is full responsible of this situation.
Is not a secret that Samsung lacks on software support. Take the European Galaxy S the unlocked version. The devices came months before the Vibrant in the US and suffers the same stupid TouchWiz bugs and never got an update...
I believe we will be lucky if we see Froyo when Android 3.0 is available. (of course whoever still has a Vibrant by then).
For me that was my first and probably last Samsung device. Its a nice device but FULL of bugs with no a single sign of support... A complete let down for this high class hardware.
Imagine if we go.straight to 3.0?
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Imagine if we go.straight to 3.0?
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We will be lucky if we even get 3.0
Samsung has managed to bork every single update for every US Galaxy S device. Even when they hit the deadline with the Captivate, it didn't fix the issue everyone wanted it to fix. Then, they release the update on other networks, only to tell people "Whatever you do - DON'T download this!". It's a joke.
Guys, relax! Samsung has been telling us that the update is coming "soon" for the past two months, so it's coming "soon"! In other news, the unemployment rates will go down to their normal levels "soon" as well!
/sarcasm
Yeah, its disappointing that the update has taken so long, but nothing to cry over yet imo.
Sent from my SGS Vibrant.
Honestly we should have all expected this after how they handled the behold 2. I felt that a phone that was on all the major carriers would get tons of support, but alas....
Phone didn't work right on launch so bottom line it's samsungs fault.
Agreed
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I got my update via Kies!
Now I wait for 2.2 LOL
This is what EVERYONE who had bought a Beyond, or other Samsung phones kept saying...
Basically that Samsung either breaks their promises, or doesn't deliver on them until way late.
I am going to start looking for a new device. This 2.1 phone should hold me over until the 3.0/Gingerbread devices start coming out.
I am not upset enough to avoid Samsung in the future, but HTC and Motorola will be my first choices.
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I believe Samsung is full responsible of this situation.
Is not a secret that Samsung lacks on software support. Take the European Galaxy S the unlocked version. The devices came months before the Vibrant in the US and suffers the same stupid TouchWiz bugs and never got an update...
I believe we will be lucky if we see Froyo when Android 3.0 is available. (of course whoever still has a Vibrant by then).
For me that was my first and probably last Samsung device. Its a nice device but FULL of bugs with no a single sign of support... A complete let down for this high class hardware.
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Never going to buy a Samsung phone again.
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From Samsung via e-mail Froyo 11/11 (No Ninja's involved)

As you probably know last Month that Samsung pulled-out the froyo Update files of the Samsung Galaxy S from its servers due to Many System Bugs that Made the Android froyo unstable and laggy. And Samsung UK confirmed on its twitter Status that the Froyo Update is Coming on November on its Final Version and to All Network operators and No More Delays...No More pulling-out!!
We Got Some Information that the Release Date of the Galaxy S Froyo update for USA Carriers and UK Carriers is somewhere around 11th November,2010 as a FINAL Release Date. Worldwide release will follow in few days after the Official Release of the Froyo ROM for Samsung Galaxy S, which Means that All Galaxy S users Worldwide (Include Middle-East and Arab gulf users) will get the update on November along with UK,USA Carriers too.
Froyo rolling out in UK Nov 4
So The Update is Coming Finally and NO More Delays AT ALL... More Stable... More Smoother, its a matter of time right Now. As I always say "Waiting for the froyo to come-out, better than waiting for it to load!".
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Galaxy-S-Getting-Froyo-on-11-November-Final-Date-
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You can view the full announcement by following this link:
http://www.samsunggalaxysforum.com/...es/final-date-for-galaxy-s-update-(nov-11th)/
Regards,
The Samsung Galaxy S Team.
Hmm. My read of the actual text that Samsung sent out is not actually any different than it was a week or so ago: the i9000 will probably have 2.2 sometime before the end of the month, along with the rest of the UK/Europe. I really don't see anything in the "official" Samsung notice that indicates Verizon, or any other US carrier.
However, since the blog posts cite "Some information" for "somewhere around 11th, November as a FINAL release date" (How's that for ambiguous, "somewhere around", but it's also "FINAL"...), I'll be guardedly optimistic.
Make that HEAVILY GUARDEDLY optimistic...
Verizon will decide when its released, not Samsung.
it says late in November for the carrier branded versions
adrynalyne said:
Verizon will decide when its released, not Samsung.
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....Bingo!
/sigh
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I don't care. Wait before you flame, please...
I spent the last year with an Omnia, and I tried every possible rom on it until I found the one I liked/could put up with the missing features. It wasn't perfect, but I knew that a sweet android phone was in my upgrade future so I dealt. WinMo has it's flaws, but you can't fault the dev community for everything they did to make an ok device better.
Now here I sit swyping on arguably the best hardware on the market (other Galaxy S offerings aside...) and I have to say I really like it.
Voodoo-ed, de-binged, de-odexed, and de-TouchWizzed is way easier than trying a dozen roms on a weekend and adding .cabs from 100 websites to come up with a phone that still half the time didn't know where my finger was trying to press!
What does FroYo have to offer? Apps that run off the SD card? Flash? Minor, although it is a bit frustrating that by the time we get it, it will just about be time for gingerbread.
Guess I'm trying to say, the best stuff about froyo is going to get too us sooner or later whether VZW or Samsung give it to us or the very talented dev community here makes it happen. News that comes from them isn't why I log in here.
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Downers
adrynalyne; said:
Verizon will decide when its released, not Samsung.
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Just trying to give some legit info for a change... A lot of wet noodles.
Ok so I was told 2.2 would be released the other day.... and YES I used the word NINJA. ... I was wrong. But do we gotta keep mentioning NINJAS? ? Hahahahahahaha : )
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No ninja source? I have my doubts about this info...
As for Froyo, I am excited to have flash, but beyond that, voodoo seems to meet my needs. Sure, you can't get rid of voodoo without performing a animal sacrifice, but it does make my phone smooth and sexy.
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jatilq said:
Just trying to give some legit info for a change... A lot of wet noodles.
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Sorry man, I wasn't trying to pee in your cornflakes, it's just that I have more faith in devs than VZW & Samsung to get us what we want.
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I don't know about you but I am waiting for my navigation to be fixed. Not to worried about the little extras but the major fixes that are, major.
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Quoted from original post 'No More pulling-out!!' That's what she said! Ha Ha...
I'm sorry I couldn't help it. I wont do it again I swear.
Honestly I can't wait to see what magic the dev community creates with Froyo and the Fascinate. My thanks to all of you!!!
Hopefully what happened with all the Droid 1 releases is what will happen here:
Motorola (in this case Samsung) readies a build, gives it to VZW for testing.
VZW takes forever testing it, and either rejects or preps it for release.
The "hopefully" part is that, hopefully, in the meantime, the file gets leaked from the Samsung end and into our hands.
Not trying to be pessimistic, but if that first file didn't leak, Im doubtful that this one will leak early either
If Verizon decides to sit on the release at least we have US Cellular as a backup. In fact it seems like US Cellular does not waste their time with carrier customizations so they might just push it out the same day they get it from Samsung.
I used to be a US Cellular customer, my wife still is, they will not get in any hurry, I would not count on them for anything.
nitroxeno said:
If Verizon decides to sit on the release at least we have US Cellular as a backup. In fact it seems like US Cellular does not waste their time with carrier customizations so they might just push it out the same day they get it from Samsung.
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You missed the point of the post bud.
Verizon, or any carrier, does NO customizations, they have NO development (read: coding) teams. They don't alter the file they receive from the OEM (in this case Samsung) in ANY WAY. The bloatware you see comes with the build straight out of Samsung's repository, with the specs that Verizon requested. They take their sweet time for a multitude of reasons, and somewhere in that timeframe its held up for internal testing. Each carrier is different, but Verizon is notorious for being an extensive tester, and rejecting builds pretty often.
Bloatware that Samsung did not code....VZW did or outsourced. Hence people are arguing with you. You aren't wrong, but neither are you entirely correct.
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I made this post to give some indication of the progress of Froyo, sadly most people want more or are intent on offering some type of dark cloud.
I know Froyo might not be released on the 11th, but at least we have a legit source of its progress. Hopefully around that time or before we will have a leaked build for testing and or roms (like some other devices). I'm sure thats when the dev section will take off.
well if samsung releases it Nov 11, dont they post the source up too, so we could have a modded version running before vzw does anything?

How will T-Mobile firmware updates roll out?

I'm getting kinda frustrated by the lack of information I'm finding on this. I got a T-Mobile Tab for Christmas; I noticed there's no Software Update option in Settings. After some digging, I find in the Samsung User's manual (for the T-Mobile variant) that updates will be through Kies Mini, and that Kies is available on samsungapps.com. That site tells me that Samsung Apps are not available in the US. So after more digging, I find the Kies Mini app, install it on my netbook and fire it up. After switching from ADW back to the TouchWiz launcher to get Kies to recognize my device, it still says that my Tab is not supported for firmware updates.
If there's something I'm missing, please let me know. I understand that there's probably no official updates available yet anyway, but this is something I need to sort out before my 30 return period is up. I do not want to get stuck with a device that is going to be this much of a hassle to update, not to mention CES is in a couple weeks, and I know there's going to be many more, much more well-featured tablets being launched.
Thanks in advance guys and gals.
As that are no known issues with the tab at this time you can expect no updates for quite some time. The first and possibly only update will come if the go with the gingerbread update, if samsung provides it. This is a good mindset to be in if you don't want to get dissapointed later. I have the tmo tab and have gone with jmc eufopean firmware. If I am stuck here forever I will still be satisfied.
scottprotege said:
As that are no known issues with the tab at this time you can expect no updates for quite some time. The first and possibly only update will come if the go with the gingerbread update, if samsung provides it. This is a good mindset to be in if you don't want to get dissapointed later. I have the tmo tab and have gone with jmc eufopean firmware. If I am stuck here forever I will still be satisfied.
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Well, I'm used to being disappointed when it comes to updates... I own a Droid X I would expect, however, there to be maintenance updates. With there being several unofficial firmwares floating around out there, you can't ignore the fact that Samsung is at least working on a bug fix update. I'm not really wondering WHEN I'll be getting updates, so much as HOW I'll be getting updates. Just frustrates me to no end that I haven't yet even found a way for my device to check to see if there's an update available. I don't care that there isn't one, just want to know how to get it when there is.
/rant
Like your experience, I had to hunt for Kies and after installing it discovered it said I had an unsupported device. I checked with T-Mobile and was told not to use Kies at all, but that any updates will come over the air instead. No need to "check in" like I did before this device, but it will just appear as a system notice when it is time. He didn't say, and I didn't think to ask at the time, whether the updates will come from T-Mo, Google, or Samsung, but maybe that doesn't really matter, any that are due will just appear.
At least your tab can do ota
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Samsung sucks

Why is it necessary to do a full factory reset to get Kies to connect to my Samsung tab? I've spent 12+ hours trying to get the damn thing to connect to my tablet. Nothing worked! I was forced to do a full reset and Kies immediately recognized the device.
So after doing all of this I found out I have the latest firmware. I guess the official release for the US is not out yet. After chatting with Samsung online support I was told at this time they had no release date due to bugs. So I guess Samsung is unable to complete an update for a Wi Fi only device in a reasonable amount of time. I made a mistake by getting a Samsung tablet.
I should have known this would happen after they never bothered to issue 2.3 update for my Vibrant. Well I'm done with Samsung.
I don't know why people need to flood the forum with these threads. Nobody cares if you are butt hurt over Samsung and their updates or if you never get another Samsung product again. Nobody.
Edit: In the amount of time that it took you to register here, and type out and post those 2 posts of yours you could have rooted your Gtab and been on your way to loading one of the great ICS or JB Rom's available in the Dev section. Seriously
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Why is it necessary to do a full factory reset to get Kies to connect to my Samsung tab? I've spent 12+ hours trying to get the damn thing to connect to my tablet. Nothing worked! I was forced to do a full reset and Kies immediately recognized the device.
So after doing all of this I found out I have the latest firmware. I guess the official release for the US is not out yet. After chatting with Samsung online support I was told at this time they had no release date due to bugs. So I guess Samsung is unable to complete an update for a Wi Fi only device in a reasonable amount of time. I made a mistake by getting a Samsung tablet.
I should have known this would happen after they never bothered to issue 2.3 update for my Vibrant. Well I'm done with Samsung.
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I have a question for you. You "should have known" and you "made a mistake" by buying a Galaxy Tab. Generally when people make mistakes that they should have known were wrong they generally don't come to a world wide forum and profess their bad judgement.
So, my question. What motivates you to confess your poor judgement here?
Yeah...you are right. Samsung sucks. And apple too. And all of the multibillion companies who get richer and richer by sucking the blood of the working people. Now get a life and do a search prior to buying anything.
Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab
badogg said:
I don't know why people need to flood the forum with these threads. Nobody cares if you are butt hurt over Samsung and their updates or if you never get another Samsung product again. Nobody.
Edit: In the amount of time that it took you to register here, and type out and post those 2 posts of yours you could have rooted your Gtab and been on your way to loading one of the great ICS or JB Rom's available in the Dev section. Seriously
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I just had to get it off my chest I feel much better now!
Don't blame Samsung for not releasing GB for Vibrant, that is the carriers fault. It came out for the Captivate, so I know they had a version.
As for the Gtab, you can read the same kind of stuff in other manufactures phone threads. I saw one today pissed about the Evo LTE not getting anything and ranting about HTC this and that.... that is why I come to xda. Who cares about ICS from Samsung when we are already ahead of the curve with JB!
I am so happy on CM10. The 0809 build is great and does enough to be a daily driver for me. I switch back and forth between this and Task14.
Everyone knows Kies sucks...Samsung isn't a software house. Root and get on ICS or JB like the others are saying...you're wasting valuable time!
I'm not gonna say Samsung sucks... but what the hack is the hold up for 4.0.4 sources?
The rom's already out it's about time to release the source code and give back to the Android community.
And then we'll have sweet sweet OC/UV Kernel to play with.
/rant_done.
samic said:
I'm not gonna say Samsung sucks... but what the hack is the hold up for 4.0.4 sources?
The rom's already out it's about time to release the source code and give back to the Android community.
And then we'll have sweet sweet OC/UV Kernel to play with.
/rant_done.
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Sources released couple hours ago...
http://opensource.samsung.com/ search GT-P7510
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bluecheese81 said:
Why is it necessary to do a full factory reset to get Kies to connect to my Samsung tab? I've spent 12+ hours trying to get the damn thing to connect to my tablet. Nothing worked! I was forced to do a full reset and Kies immediately recognized the device.
So after doing all of this I found out I have the latest firmware. I guess the official release for the US is not out yet. After chatting with Samsung online support I was told at this time they had no release date due to bugs. So I guess Samsung is unable to complete an update for a Wi Fi only device in a reasonable amount of time. I made a mistake by getting a Samsung tablet.
I should have known this would happen after they never bothered to issue 2.3 update for my Vibrant. Well I'm done with Samsung.
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Kies sucks. Most people know that. You chose to spend 12+ hours stressing yourself out when a quick search here would have led you to Odin and flashing the UK ICS update or rooting and installing one of the great custom ROMs here. Neither would have taken you anywhere NEAR 12+ hours. Oh, and if you were backing up regularly a factory reset would be no big deal.
BTW, don't believe what a customer service rep tells you. Chances are they aren't given any more info about the updates than we are.
Didn't aware of the source just released. Thanks!
Samsung is now officially un-dead to me.
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