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Galaxy S Plastic frame clicks

Hi friends,
I have a question in order to figured it out if my new I9000 Galaxy S has a little problem or it is a factory default behavior.
It is related to plastic frame(margin).
If I start to squeeze it a little symmetrically from the top to bottom on both left and right parts it feels very solid all the way down until I rich the last 1/4 from the vertical parts where pushing a little the frame seems to click(I can hear it) at the same height on both parts for a short distance. Continuing going down feels solid again.
I squeeze it from up to down not from lateral.
Due to the fact that is identically symmetrically I wonder it if is normal or not. Have any of you noticed that ?
I hope I was more or less clear in my explanation.
Thanks for helping me !

I notice slight clicking noise, and a little creaking noise when squeeze. To me this seemed normal. It will go away with good silicone or aluminium case.

kcharng said:
It will go away with good silicone or aluminium case.
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Is this really a solution?
You want to make your phone significantly worse? Any silicone, aluminium or crystal case will make it look horrible, in my opinion...
If the frame clicks, it will fall of eventually.

Mine also clicks and squeeze and I don't bother it won't fall off.
Don't use case it looks terrible!

You will appreciate a good case after the phone fall off once or twice. This phone is a slippery lady.
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Yesyerday 9th of July: I think I was not 100% clear related to the squeeze term. Is more like a tapp on the frame that sorrounding the screen, with both fingers as I said before. So is not a real big click sound... is like a feeling that the frame covers a microspace between the frame and the screen but nothing visible, just I fill it sometimes when I tapp the frame above the "back" and "settings" buttons. Anyway I think I
become paranoid.
Today 10th of July: I went today to the central store to test what I hear on other SGS phones. I tested on 8 models. They are all the same. Every one has a small zone where tapping you fill like a small hole(extreemly small hole). So, I have the proof that is quite natural and every phone Galaxy S has it. And absolutly is NOT disturbing. In this way I made peace with my new phone and with me and I advice to do the same for you. Every phone is perfect in it's way and if you hear something when u touch it seems the phone reveals and speak to you. He's your new buddy. So, trust him and let's have a long life togheter.

when you start referring to your phone romantically it sounded very weird.
anonim77 said:
Yesyerday 9th of July: I think I was not 100% clear related to the squeeze term. Is more like a tapp on the frame that sorrounding the screen, with both fingers as I said before. So is not a real big click sound... is like a feeling that the frame covers a microspace between the frame and the screen but nothing visible, just I fill it sometimes when I tapp the frame above the "back" and "settings" buttons. Anyway I think I
become paranoid.
Today 10th of July: I went today to the central store to test what I hear on other SGS phones. I tested on 8 models. They are all the same. Every one has a small zone where tapping you fill like a small hole(extreemly small hole). So, I have the proof that is quite natural and every phone Galaxy S has it. And absolutly is NOT disturbing. In this way I made peace with my new phone and with me and I advice to do the same for you. Every phone is perfect in it's way and if you hear something when u touch it seems the phone reveals and speak to you. He's your new buddy. So, trust him and let's have a long life togheter.
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It sounds to me very nice. ^^

To me it sounds geeky

[DISCUSSION] The Desire-Z keyboard hinge thread - how loose is yours?

I know there are plenty of threads about G2 hinge issues, but I'd like to know about your Desire-Z keyboard hinges now that it has shipped.
I've just received my second Desire-Z this morning and it's probably worse than the first one. If pick up the phone, absolutely horizontal, from a table just by holding the upper section, the keyboard just falls half-open. Surely it shouldn't be like this? Here's a quick youtube video I took of my first phone:
Just wondering if I've been really unlucky, or are they basically all like this? I really hope not...
Andre

Mine does exactly the same. I'm not sure if this is normal or not, but I'm not very happy with it.
My other concern is that the screen wobbles back and forth when I have the phone closed if I tap on the left and right edges.
I think this is probably a design flaw rather than a specific device problem. You'll probably find they're all the same
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Cant quite tell what the angle is in the video.
If I pick up mine by just the top piece then it droops, but doesn't slide out.
If I hold it upside-down by the base it droops, but can't slide.
Whenever I pick up the phone though I hold it by the base, so in normal use it's perfectly fine.

I'm basically assuming that the spring should be just strong enough for the phone to hold itself together (i.e. without the keyboard dropping away at all) when it is gently lifted up from a flat surface. That's the benchmark I would want to see anyway, and neither of mine will do that.
I might take this up with HTC and see what their view on it is - I just hope they don't do an Apple and patronisingly say "you're holding it the wrong way".
Andre

I've just sent off an email to superEtrader asking for a refund as I'm not happy.
I hope they take it back without any hassle since their website says I can't return it if its been opened. Someone on here kindly pointed out the Distance Selling Regulations say I can open it and play with it (I have the PDF stored on my PC!), but I don't want to have that sort of hassle.

my phone has the same problem as the video.
Also, the screen slides down when im lying down, holding the phone by the keyboard.

My phone isnt quite a loose as in the video, but it does droop if I pick it up by the top section rather than the base & also if I am lying down and hold by keyboard it will start to shut... I kinda expected to have a loose hinge based on reviews that I had seen for G2 & at this point its only a very minor niggle, so I wont do any return until I find out there are Desire Zs out there that actually have a firm hinge.
On another note, I noticed yesterday that the black backing of the keyboard is a bit bubbly.. Im hoping that the backing wont start coming away down the road... but I guess only time will tell.

I found it hard to do what was shown on video, I never grabbed phone like this before. It never opened on its own even slightly. Also owned TP2 and never held it by the screen. I dont think people would actually ever hold it like that.
No offense to anyone, I just dont see any issues with my hinge. I know it opens when I hold it like on video or upside down, but If I havent read some posts, I would never try it.
This is just my personal opinion on the "hinges"

The design is for the way we hold and use our phones.. I feel for you bro, but noone holds their phone at the angle your showing this at..
I have had no problem at all yet with the everyday use of this beast)
JD

Honestly, at first it bothered, but really, it really starts to make sense for me now how it acts. If our hinge would be stronger, it'd be more difficult to open it and might have us actually break it.
Also, when I hold it while typing, I instinctively put my index fingers along the side of the keyboard/screen (once it is opened) and type with my thumbs. That way, it's impossible for the screen to fold back in closed position.
When I pick up my phone, I really don't pick it up by only one of the parts (screen/base). It's actually quite heavy at 180g and if I don't want to drop it, I rather pick up nicely and firmly.
So, really, after 4 days with my phone, the thing that bothers me more now isn't the screen, but the weight difference between my old Samsung Galaxy S (with gel back) and the Z.
Actually, funny anecdote, while playing Angry Birds, I actually opened the keyboard so I had a better grip on the phone.

daft.71 said:
Honestly, at first it bothered, but really, it really starts to make sense for me now how it acts. If our hinge would be stronger, it'd be more difficult to open it and might have us actually break it.
Also, when I hold it while typing, I instinctively put my index fingers along the side of the keyboard/screen (once it is opened) and type with my thumbs. That way, it's impossible for the screen to fold back in closed position.
When I pick up my phone, I really don't pick it up by only one of the parts (screen/base). It's actually quite heavy at 180g and if I don't want to drop it, I rather pick up nicely and firmly.
So, really, after 4 days with my phone, the thing that bothers me more now isn't the screen, but the weight difference between my old Samsung Galaxy S (with gel back) and the Z.
Actually, funny anecdote, while playing Angry Birds, I actually opened the keyboard so I had a better grip on the phone.
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QUOTE:Also, when I hold it while typing, I instinctively put my index fingers along the side of the keyboard/screen (once it is opened) and type with my thumbs. That way, it's impossible for the screen to fold back in closed position:END QUOTE
I could not have put it better myself....
JD

I think I'll just keep mine until we get confirmation that better-designed Desire Zs have been produced. The replacement is from HTC and not my supplier, so I should be able to do it at any time during the next 2 years... right?

Mine is pretty solid - I even text in bed and it doesn't fall. I have opened the keyboard once or twice by accident, which is quite funny..

Desire Z on Bell Canada Hinge problem
I have already gone through two DZ's and both have the "weak" hinge. Thankfully mine does not do what is shown in the Video in post #1, thats definitely a defect in my opinion. Just to compare notes on a relative basis here is what mine does.
When the phone is closed I turn it sideways (landscape) lift it from the bottom and then press on the left and right edges with my thumbs. The screen snaps nicely into place. If I then grap the device by the top two corners of the screen and lift it straight up and hold it perfectly horizontally the keyboard drops down. However, if I lift it up at a slight angle the keyboard remains "attached" to the screen. It seems as though there is a magnet of some kind holding it in place.
I instinctively hold it with forefingers and thumb to type much as I do on my Motorola Milestone which slides straight up and down and has no "hinge".
As for lying on my back and typing in Bed if I just hold the bottom portion keyboard along then the screen drops down. HOWEVER that is an extremely awkward way to type for anyone I would imagine.
The question is, did HTC design it to work in this way knowing that people "instinctively" do these types of actions in this way?? I am not sure they conduct such a detailed ergonomic study. There are people that have no hinge issues at all, but unless they apply specific tests as I did here it would be difficult to know if they are experiencing similar problems. If they are doing what comes naturally and holding it as nature intended then they would not deem that there are any problems.
Just my two cents.

This is worse than the "Is my trackpad wobbling?!" threads on CrackBerry. It's supposed to be loose so you can open it with one finger, according to HTC. If you don't like it, take it back (you can definitely get a refund, since it's only been out like 4 days or whatever) and get a new phone. Seriously. You want a stiff slide, get a Milestone, then you have nothing to complain about.

Bought 2 today, they're (identically!) quite loose. I was really worried before buying that I'm gonna get the 'loose one' but to be honest it's not an issue as it's a very weird way to hold your phone and like others said you instinctively hold the device with your thumb and index fingers as that's where they end up when you open the phone. Furthermore, if opened and held vertically just by the bottom, the top part stays in place and only drops down at ~40 deg angle, so unless you text a lot in bed while holding the phone upside down and holding it just by the bottom bit, you won't have a problem. If I lift it up like in the video (it's actually quite an effort) the parts will separate.

Yeah, mine is the same, but dont know why people are making such a big fuss on it, why not for example make a big fuss on the speaker quality instead?

Yeah the speaker is ****, its the one thing that is crap with this phone...
Sent from my Desire Z Beast

Did you ever think choosing a phone would be like choosing a girlfriend. At least with the Desire Z you can test it out in the shop to see if its loose before getting it home and having a nasty surprise lol XD

I never knew I had a hinge problem until I watched the videos. Some people have way to much time on their hands.
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[CLOSED] Loose hinge? Still an issue?

There is already an active thread discussing the hinge issue. Please direct further discussion here. PS, you are lucky I did not just delete this entirely! ~TheRomMistress
Hey guys,
For those who own htc desire z, hows the hinge for you already? How long have you owned the device already?
Other than that, hows the speed performance for you guys? In terms of web browsing and opening applications?
Thanks for your time.
Sent from my HTC Desire

Speed for me is awesome, and I'm still at stock speed, not tried overclocking yet.
My hinge is fine, just the same as when I initially got the phone (about two and a half weeks ago).
Unless your phone is faulty, I think the only people who have a problem are some who want to use their phone while lying in bed and holding the phone right above them. I never use my phone like that.

steviewevie said:
I think the only people who have a problem are some who want to use their phone while lying in bed and holding the phone right above them. I never use my phone like that.
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I do use it like this, every night, and no problem at all. The design is not faulty. When you hold it like that above your face whilst in bed the way the hand and fingers hold the device the screen stays open and does not fall down at all.
Every night I use it like this!

ayewhy said:
I do use it like this, every night, and no problem at all. The design is not faulty. When you hold it like that above your face whilst in bed the way the hand and fingers hold the device the screen stays open and does not fall down at all.
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I know what you mean. I did actually try and the way I would hold the phone in that position it won't open for me either. Seems there are a few who hold their phone differently when laying down though, and then perhaps gravity means it does open.

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...I think the only people who have a problem are some who want to use their phone while lying in bed and holding the phone right above them. I never use my phone like that.
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Not strictly true. My hinge is fine - had the phone 9 days now and it's still as tight as it started out. My only problem is that the top half of the phone is not tight against the bottom half when it's closed - causing a tapping when using the touchscreen. I'm ok when I have a gel case on it which keeps the two halves separate and cushioned. Only problem is that this case makes it difficult to type on the top row of keys. I have another hard case which is thinner, but does not eliminate the tapping problem. I'm waiting for another case to arrive from the US which is rubber - hopefully will cushion like the gel, but be thin like the hard case.
I opted not change the phone since I have been told others have the same problem, and I didn't want to risk getting a loose hinge AS WELL AS the tapping...
At the end of the day this phone is pretty effing awesome otherwise (aside from a few little software issues - which will be fixed by devs on XDA no doubt), and I'm sure I will solve this problem one way or another, whether it's with a particular case, or worst comes to worst, sticking some of sort of thin cushioning material to the bottom of the top half of the phone - any suggestions, please feel free to let me know!!
I do wish HTC had just gone with a normal slider though, and this phone would be perfect.

My DZ is exactly as setspeed described..
I would add that while holding the DZ without the case mentioned by setspeed, it feels a bit like holding two thin phones combined together rather than one phone.
its really not as bad as it sounds but i would have liked it if there was some sort of latch or something to hold the screen tight to the keyboard while the device is closed.
I have the phone for two weeks now.. for the first couple of days I put a rubber case on it (the black case that T-Mobile sell for the G2) but i removed it very quickly as i felt it gave the phone a very bulky feeling to it.. the case is not very thin and the DZ is not the lightest of phones.
Im on the lookout for a thinner case too.. it would be great if there was a clear one as-well..
setspeed, please post your thoughts on the new case after you try it out
I also thought of adding some cushioning material to the bottom of the screen, I'm on the lookout for that as-well..
other than that, my hinge holds the screen tight in place while the device is open.. the screen opening while the phone is upside down is really not an issue.
I haven't rooted my phone yet, i don't really feel the need to.. I compared it to the old desire i bought for my girlfriend.
I think that the new Sense UI is a bit heavier on the system and so there are some places i feel the old desire is faster.
for example, when dragging down the notification view from the top of the screen, the new Sense gives you a list of recent apps used. sometimes it needs to populate that list and so dragging down the notification view is not as fluent as on the old desire. its not an issue because once it populates the list, it runs smooth very smooth as-well.
I think there is also a bit of lag while scrolling through menus. the lag clears after first scroll and then it runs smoothly again.
I'm sure that there are some optimized roms out there that take care of those small issues.
I had a hard time deciding which phone to buy - the old desire or the Z..
I'm actually really happy with my decision..
Its a very very good phone
Hope you found my thoughts useful

tightness of slider

how tight is everyone's slider mechanism? If you grab the screen with one hand and grab the keyboard with the other (while closed or open), does it twist much?

I have a little play with the slider but its barely noticeable. I've come to expect this with all slider phones.
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koolkid09 said:
I have a little play with the slider but its barely noticeable. I've come to expect this with all slider phones.
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I wasn't sure if it was normal or not. Haven't ever had a slider. I'm not a huge fan of how the keyboard doesn't really "snap" open, but it's a darn nice keyboard to me either way

I've had mine in the blue/black case from radioshack since the 6th. In the case is has pratically no play at all, out of the case its just as awesome.
I was worried it being in the case might damage it, buts it great so far.
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Mine's developed a little play when it's closed. By that I mean the screen can move slightly before more force is required to open the keyboard.
When the keyboard is open, there's also a small amount of play with the screen. The screen can 'twist' a bit if I push down on the right or left side.
Small annoyances but I'm not sure it would be any different if I took it back for a new one.

I never noticed the "new" plastic wrap thats on either side of the keyboard, after i removed it, the slider is smoother and more responsive. Feels really solid to me.

My wife's has never had any play at all. The slider feels smooth and crisp. Compared to my old Epic which would bend and move its quite refreshing to not feel like I could break the phone by opening it.

I'm going back to radioshack and trade my phone for a newer shift because it seems like my slider keeps getting worse and worse. And I also have a black hue at the bottom of my screen. Now I remember why I hate sliders. Lol.
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I never noticed the "new" plastic wrap thats on either side of the keyboard, after i removed it, the slider is smoother and more responsive. Feels really solid to me.
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Wow.. I cant believe I didnt notice it either until I saw this post... I was like, no way could I have missed that after using it constantly for 2 weeks. But there it is...
P.S. - seconds after posting I realized that the protective plastic wrap is not only on both sides of the keyboard. If you slide your keyboard out and turn the phone around, you will notice that the entire backside of the screen surface (where it reads "with Google") is covered in a large sheet of the same plastic. After all of the plastic is off there is definitely a noticable difference in the smoothness of the slider. Thanks again to stealthfx.

Osin83 said:
Wow.. I cant believe I didnt notice it either until I saw this post... I was like, no way could I have missed that after using it constantly for 2 weeks. But there it is... Made a noticable difference in the slider after removing it.
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Wow, me too

[Q] My only concern about the Epic

I'm pretty content with my Epic so far. I've had it since November and have had no major issues with it and any I did have I was able to fix (no gps after flash, fixed thanks to Epic community, unresponsive screen orientation, fixed thanks to epic community again).
But I'm noticing a potential problem that I'm afraid no one here will be able to fix.
One of the minor gripes I have with my Epic is that whenever I press the top right button on my phone to either lock or unlock it, I ever so slightly apply some pressure with my fingers as if I wanted to push the screen up to slide out the keyboard. The amount of pressure my fingers are giving is minuscule but I'm already noticing that my phone no longer is as firm as it was 90 days ago.
This troubles me because I hardly ever use the keyboard, in fact, I only used it several times the first month to try out some emulators but gave up on it because the keyboard just isnt that great for it. My fear is that this phone is going to get as loose as the epics you find at the Sprint stores in less than a year!
Dont get me wrong, I dont expect the sliding mechanism to be strong forever, but I am pretty surprised that the phone is already feeling loose and I dont even use the physical keyboard
My question to you all is are any of you experiencing the same problem? How about those who use the keyboard frequently? Is there any way we can "re-tighten" whatever it is that is getting loose??

My phone is only 2months old and when the keyboard is shut and you look at it from the volume side I have a huge gap there. The slider is a little loose not to bad. My problem is just the gap issue. If I press on the left side of my screen you can literally see the left side of the screen go down due to that gap. I'm gonna be exchanging it soon I just don't feel like it cause my setup is finished and I just dont feel like doing it again.

I notice the epic case set helps it from feeling as loose now.
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musclehead84 said:
My phone is only 2months old and when the keyboard is shut and you look at it from the volume side I have a huge gap there. The slider is a little loose not to bad. My problem is just the gap issue. If I press on the left side of my screen you can literally see the left side of the screen go down due to that gap. I'm gonna be exchanging it soon I just don't feel like it cause my setup is finished and I just dont feel like doing it again.
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You can backup your data to your pc..and when you get your new epic just throw it back in.
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It is what it is...
There are multiple causes for the screen wobble effect, and once it gets loose, much like a fine woman's _____, there's not much you can do to fix the situation. I've read on here how people have taken their epic's apart to try and tighten the slider but it's just not possible unless you send it back to samsung to have them do it. However, there are a few solutions insofar as mitigating one's "noticing" it on a daily basis. Both the Otterbox and Seidio Active X are nice cases and once they are attached, there is not really any screen wobble effect due to the way the cases fit. Although, what most people don't realize is that most of the cheap cases that are available for the epic (including the ones at the sprint store and the non-platinum series cases at best buy) are actually to blame for creating the gap between the screen and keyboard in the first place. The way that they clip on to the phone is not very well thought out like on the more expensive cases and the clips sometimes overlap and are simply thicker than they need to be on most of the cheapo cases. I learned this the hard way with my first epic and when I figured it out it was still within the 30 day trial period Sprint gives you with their phones. So i took it back under "false pretenses" and told bestbuy that the earphone speaker quality was ****ty compared to my "friends" Epic and that i wanted to get a different Epic. I've been very careful about which cases I use on my phone from that point on. The Seidio innocase and active x, platinum series, and otterbox cases are all the ones i know for sure that won't cause a "gaping" effect on your phone. All the ones at the sprint store have a negative impact and even the otterbox does just a tad, mainly due to the side clips on the top bezel that clipon by the top row of numbers on the keyboard.
anyways, that's my 2cents