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SAMOLED+ Pixel Response Time and Touch Screen Discussion & My Review of These Parts.

SAMOLED+ Pixel Response Time and Touch Screen Discussion & My Review of These Parts.
Hey all, I wanted to start a thread to have a discussion about these two things that are my only disappointments in this phone.
Let me start by saying I think this phone is awesome, and yes I feel there are a few other faults on the phone (lockscreen delay when running off the battery due to the CPU taking a second to kick in, weak GPS/wifi signal sometimes, heavy banding on gradients etc) But those are software issues and I know in the near future Samsung/Devs will sort this out.
But I had some big complaints that aren't (still I hope not) software issues. Firstly;
- Response Time.
By this I mean when you buy a new monitor and the response time is listed as 4ms or whatever. This is the time the pixel takes to make a full change. A slow response time will cause ghosting. And that's exactly a issue that the Samsung Galaxy SII faces. Ghosting.
I've gone through 4 replacement SII's for various reasons, and on all of them they ghosted. So it's not just my phone. Samsung bizarrely states the response time is 0.001ms which would be there would be no ghosting at all. However there is, quite a bit actually, by my testing the screen is actually around 6-8ms.
I want to see if anyone else notices it. I know there's been a couple of threads on this but I want to see if the majority of people notice this. Here's how to test, go onto white page with black text on, and then scroll down the page at a moderate pace, not to fast not too slow, try it at different speeds as well just in case you don't get it right.
The easiest way I find to do this is use the inbuilt stock news app, load up any story and it'll give you a long white page with black text you can scroll through. As you may notice if you got a decent set of eyes on you, the text will leave a trail. Also known as ghosting. To me, I find this absolutely unacceptable on such high end device.
- Colour
Also, as it's been widely reported and has been noticeable on all my GSII's, the colour temperature is very 'cool', nowhere near the perfect 6500k. As a result, white's look very blue. This is fine and you hardly notice it on it's own, however when I'm using the device at my PC, which I use on a 32" IPS panel TV I professionally calibrated, the whites on the GSII look more blue than the ocean! Technically this is a software problem and can easily be sorted when custom roms come along but jeez, this is some bad stock colour calibration.
Also when you tilt the display, the viewing angles are generally very good, however tilting the display by pretty much any angle adds an extra blue tint to the screen on an already blueish screen.
I'm an absolutely screen quality perfectionist so these points really get to me. Especially considering this is such a high end device.
Overall I'd give the display a 6.5/10.
After the colour temperature has been sorted, I'll give it a 7.5/10.
If the ghosting can get minimized somehow even slightly through software on top of that, I'd give it an 8.5/10.
Secondly;
- Touch Screen
Now we all know about the movement deadzone/threshold on the touch screen which is massively annoying, but hopefully that'll get fixed in the near future. But What I'm going to complain about is the low sensitivity of the touch screen is the best way I can describe it.
On my HTC Desire, I can tap the screen ridiculously lightly and quick, and the device will register the input, absolutely no questions asked. Absolutely brilliant.
However on the GSII the sensitivity seems to be a lot lower, I can tap the screen lightly and quickly and the screen won't register the touch at all. This is pretty damn annoying as sometimes I just tap the screen lightly normally and I have to retap things. Not very often but still. I wish the device was as sensitive as the HTC Desire.
In it's current state I'd give the touch screen an 8/10.
If the movement deadzone and sensitivity got fixed, it'd be a 10/10.
Now I'm sure I had more to write about but I've forgotten now. I'll edit it into the post if I can think of the other things.
Now as I said, I think the GSII is a smashing phone, sure there are a lot of niggles at the minute, but I know they'll get sorted soon. Just the points I've outlined in this thread are things I'm scared won't get sorted. But you never know, I'm really hoping they can get sorted/do get sorted.
As I said I've had 4 Galaxy S2's all had the above issues, and I've used 2 other S2's from friends who also have these issues, so it's widespread, I'm just curious if people actually notice it.
I've added a poll to the thread regarding these issues. Please don't lie to yourself about this stuff, if you notice it, please answer honestly

I honestly hadnt noticed any of this stuff, i even watched a video of the deadzone and couldnt replicate it myself. I also think the touch response is fine you must have a very light finger/thumb!
The ghosting i hadnt noticed probly because i dont read text as im scrolling i tend to go a page at a time and the fact that im too taken back with the smoothness that pages do scroll.
The blue tint you guessed it i hadnt noticed but then again its not often i hold my phone up to specially tuned monitors.. Then again maybe theres a reason for it maybe it helps reduce glare in sunlight, then again maybe im talking aload of ****e!
no offence but you sound like you could moan for england! chill out and focus on the things it does do well and you may notice the negatives less

Personally....I think your nuts. This is the best screen ever on a phone. I have none of those issues, the touch screen perfectly responsive, my whites are white as white can be. You keep getting your phone from the same supplier and that leads me to be what the problem is. mine is perfect in every way. lucky me I guess

rojdag said:
I honestly hadnt noticed any of this stuff, i even watched a video of the deadzone and couldnt replicate it myself. I also think the touch response is fine you must have a very light finger/thumb!
The ghosting i hadnt noticed probly because i dont read text as im scrolling i tend to go a page at a time and the fact that im too taken back with the smoothness that pages do scroll.
The blue tint you guessed it i hadnt noticed but then again its not often i hold my phone up to specially tuned monitors.. Then again maybe theres a reason for it maybe it helps reduce glare in sunlight, then again maybe im talking aload of ****e!
no offence but you sound like you could moan for england! chill out and focus on the things it does do well and you may notice the negatives less
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Haha I could moan for england ;P
Nah it's just I'm very picky when it comes to screens. And I definitely expect the best on such a high end device, unfortunately the SGSII falls abit short on this.
It's still a great device. Really wish I didn't notice this sort of stuff haha.
stillbrad said:
Personally....I think your nuts. This is the best screen ever on a phone. I have none of those issues, the touch screen perfectly responsive, my whites are white as white can be. You keep getting your phone from the same supplier and that leads me to be what the problem is. mine is perfect in every way. lucky me I guess
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Best screen on a phone possibly. It's not the best screen ever though, it's good don't get me wrong, but not the best.
And I assure you, your device has everything that I outlined in my original post, it's just down to the user if they notice it or not. When I used my friends Galaxy SII's (who both got it from different places to me and each other) I asked them about this stuff and they had no idea what I was on about, so I thought my phone was faulty and I had a look at their GSII's and theirs have the same problems aswell, they just don't notice them. (They did after I pointed it out though muwhahah)

I must not have a sgs2. Maybe its because mine is from first batch but I have none of your listed issues. After 4 devices, it cant be samsungs fault.

Heh, guys every SGSII have these issues, I'm not arguing that, was merely checking to see how many people notice these issues (not many in the grand scheme of things apparently) there's quite a lot of reports of these problems so it's just down to the user
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I guess I have horrible standards. No shadowning on my phone.

The ghosting and blue-ish colortemperature I noticed right from the start. But to be honest: I really dont care. At least the ghosting is nothing which stands out of the crowd... all of them have it ... HTC, LG, Apple. The only reason you don't notice it as much, is the lower contrast on the other displays.
As for the sensitivity: It's a little lower than with my htc hd2, BUT I'm actually glad it is. The sensitivity on the HTC phones is ridiculously high. You don't even have to touch the screen and you end up clicking something, which can be quite annoying sometimes. On the SGS2 I never had any missclicks, nor did I have any non-responsivenesses. Perfect setup for my taste.

I think all of the average joe out there probably doesn't care about all this minor issues. You must have the intention to find the fault of the phone in order to get what you want to find but do you think most of us would be doing this? Haha.. Tbh I don't really care as long as the phone does what I want without falling apart. lol..

Yeah I was a bit surprised by the ghosting, having seen the response time claims, but neither that nor the colour temp (on 'movie') have really bothered me so far.
What has irked me a bit is the image sharpness. On a site like m.engadget.com the coloured text on white background has a dark outline all around it, which to me looks horrible. Anyone else noticed that?

I think the ghosting issue is due to the low fresh rate of the touch screen.It's lower than 60HZ.
When you scroll the screen,the animation is not smooth enough,so you see the ghosting.
It's more of a visual persistence issue.
I remember when some choppy animation showed in CRT,I can see ghosting.
Never the less,when your finger leave the touch screen,let it scrolling itself,you can see the "ghosting" would be less noticible.
But you can still see it,that's because of 60HZ refresh rate of the Display.
I just wondering if there is any way to change the fresh rate of the touch screen.

What are you doing that's causing ghosting issues? There is a definite color temp issue but that's how every amoled screen has been so far. I would take a little bit of blue tint over the black color performance

The thing that causes the ghosting, as I said in my original post, it fast movement. The screens pixels can't change fast enough so things leave a trail.
As I said the best way so see this is to loadup a long page with a white background and black text and then scroll down at a moderate pace, fast but not so fast you eyes your eyes canty follow the line of text. If toy do it right and you've got a decent set of eyes you'll see that the text leaves a trail.
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hi,
You are not the only *nut* i noticed that on my device the grey sux big time,... specially on rgb 100 100 100 have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084543
My white is ok, but the grey goes magenta,
PLUS
if u go to 160 dpa u will see the effect better on greys and gradients which involves grays!

nongrata23 said:
hi,
You are not the only *nut* i noticed that on my device they grey sux big time,... specially on rgb 100 100 100 have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084543
My white is ok, but the grey goes magenta,
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if u go to 160 dpa u will see the effect better on greys and gradients which involves grays!
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Yep, there's a lot disappointments with the screen on this phone. However as the poll is so far proving, majority of people don't care for quality as much as us. Only a few others care/notice about the things we're complaining about.

rojdag said:
no offence but you sound like you could moan for england! chill out and focus on the things it does do well and you may notice the negatives less
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Thanks .. Thats the funniest **** i have read all day...
Theres nothing wrong with my sgs2 and ive owned Hero's Desire's Nexus One's and even an LG2X.. This phone is superb.. This dude does sound a bit anal..

Hey. I can definately notice ghosting on this screen if i purposely try to but as others have said, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. When watching films or playing games it's non-existant.
As for the whites, you yourself stated you can't really notice until you hold the device against your professionally calibrated screen. How are the blacks in comparison? Out of interest, how much was that screen/calibration.
I think the main problem with alot of peoples gripes is focusing on only the weaker aspects of the phone rather than the device as a whole. People want perfection which unfortunately doesn't exist in the world of electrical consumer tech.

now i see this horrible grey everywhere i cannot even look at my phone any more!
I hope that this issue would be enough to change my device!

Hey drm111, as you know I have those problems too.
Did you have them on all your 4phones?
1) As you know I have this topic in wich one screen had this blue ish coat on the screen, noticable from the angles you talk abouth. But the other one does not have it.
So maybe not everyone has that blue coating? Did you investigated that further?
2) As you also know there is this yellowish/darker 1/3 of the left screen, probably some don't notice it. You have to be in a dark room or in a light one really looking for it. You read abouth this huh?
But I you didn't post it here. Aren't you having this problem? And did you have it on al of your 4 phones?
3) Ghosting, yes i notice it to. No sharp text when scrolling,is that the ghosting too?
I have this first generation ipod touch, text stays sharp when scrolling. Should be the case here too.
4) Than you have the grey tints, wich turn pink. You can see it in the topic of nongrata23. But some phone don't have it it seems. Software or hardware?
We need to figure out what is 'normal' and what isn't. As I don't want to send my phone back if it is normal at this point for all the gs2 that are on the market.

Let me start by saying i used to work for a PC magazine and was among those who blew the whistle on the nVidia texture replacement fiasco surrounding the Geforce 5800. I can see a single texture out of place in a high FPS game, so my eye is VERY keen.
The colour of the SGS2 is slightly blue yes, but mine is no worse than the average LCD, including the Retina display.
Response time is seemingly slower than the previous AMOLED screens ive seen, but again is more than a match for the LCDs out there.
I would say samsung have made a trade off between the sub pixel density and other factors. It works for me just fine.
The 16bit thing is interesting. It looks to me like the screen isnt 16bit, but it is using 16bit at times. Thats a driver issue.

Color and heating issues

Ok, so I've read about some folks with yellow and blue tinting to their screens. My phone doesn't seem to have that, but it has some pretty funky colors compared to the original Samsung Galaxy, which I also have. The colours are just too deep/dark in a way that looks unnatural (especially for nature-themed wallpapers). I can't increase the screen brightness as I don't like overly bright screens, neither does adjusting the background color help.
Secondly, my phone overheats very fast, with the heat being at the top of the phone. I read about a particular batch of phones having that issue, and while my phone doesn't belong to that batch, the last batch number is just two digits away. Last night it got so hot that I had problems holding the phone.
Now my question is, are there any firmwares that can fix these issues? Are there any issues with flashing firmwares that are not for my region? I'm tempted to go to the service centre but am afraid that the replacement unit will be worse.

holgalee said:
Ok, so I've read about some folks with yellow and blue tinting to their screens. My phone doesn't seem to have that, but it has some pretty funky colors compared to the original Samsung Galaxy, which I also have. The colours are just too deep/dark in a way that looks unnatural (especially for nature-themed wallpapers). I can't increase the screen brightness as I don't like overly bright screens, neither does adjusting the background color help.
Secondly, my phone overheats very fast, with the heat being at the top of the phone. I read about a particular batch of phones having that issue, and while my phone doesn't belong to that batch, the last batch number is just two digits away. Last night it got so hot that I had problems holding the phone.
Now my question is, are there any firmwares that can fix these issues? Are there any issues with flashing firmwares that are not for my region? I'm tempted to go to the service centre but am afraid that the replacement unit will be worse.
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Wow, you've run a lot of issues together.
1) Color temperature
It's very different between the SGS1 and SGS2 so exchanging the phone isn't going to do anything. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124669
2) Banding (yellow tint)
Appears to be a design issue as it's been on all phones to date. It can be reproduced on grey backgrounds with the display at a low setting in a dark room and by taking a pic of the phone. Most don't see it or it doesn't bother them in everyday use. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079444
3) Blue tint
Some displays appear to have a QC issue with blue tremdously over emphasized. If you have one, exchange it. Or it could be appearing blue when looked at from odd angles due to the oleophobic coating on the screen. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127649
4) Overheating
Happens in intense games, when certain apps run the proc at 100% (accidentally or on purpose), or due to a defect. Lots of threads on this so search.
What to do after taking all of this in is up to you.

BarryH_GEG said:
2) Banding (yellow tint)
Appears to be a design issue as it's been on all phones to date. It can be reproduced on grey backgrounds with the display at a low setting in a dark room and by taking a pic of the phone. Most don't see it or it doesn't bother them in everyday use. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079444
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You need to be consistent on what you post, the context differs on your other post.
BarryH_GEG said:
1) The left side banding which appears along with a yellow tint either under certain conditions or, to some, in everyday use. This would seem to be a design issue as, to date, it shows up on every single phone produced.
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Out of the many phones I've seen and tested, none of them required any special circumstances to reproduce the effect, simply by just opening up the virtualkeyboard or just by using the phone regularly they show up, at varied degrees per phone. I've yet to come across one that requires special conditions but I've seen a few with extremely faint tint that it does not eve bother me.
@OP
The heating issues seem to be different from phone to phone, My first one didnt even warm up while charging but warms up on all other things the 2nd one I have now seems to be noticeably running warmer on everything even on charging.

Thanks for the replies. I don't seem to notice blue or yellow tinting for now, but just over saturation of semmingly all colours, and also banding of colour gradients. The phone gets hot with gaming, though I don't consider the games super intense. Will search the threads.
Guess I'll have to observe the phone for a few more days or weeks before deciding what to do next. Wished I had done more research before getting the phone!

Im here to confirm some issues on galaxy s2 as normal

Hey, i have a samsung galaxy s2 and just like some of you i had been struggling to get a proper phone with no overheating and the weird blue tint on the screen when you view the screen from different angles, i have noticed very few galaxy s2 without this blue shifting problem when viewed the screen from another side and i can explain why at 5):
1) Ive swapped my phone 2 times now, the first, the second, the third and the manager phone all reproduce this issue, the screen looks just fine when viewed straigth but if you try to view it from another angle the screen will turn a bit to blue, it is most noticeable in white backgrounds.
Since i have tested 4 random phones with exactly the same problem i can confirm this "feature" as normal.
2) All of my three phones have blurring issues when in motion, you can clearly see it when the text is white and the background is black, altough this blurring is very small compared to the top of the line LCD screens its still there on all 3 phones so i can confirm this as normal.
3) The 2 phones i had all had random overheating issues, this must have something to do with either a design flaw or lack of quality in programming the OS for the phone, this is also normal for your phone to happen as it happened in the last 3 of mines, the only way ive found to avoid this issue is simply exit all applications, clear memory ram and then start the app, this semms to prevent my phone to reaching insane levels of heat.
Heres a list of apps some people and i reported to overheat the phone:
Gun Bros - Checked
Pocket Legends - Unchecked
4) The speaker quality of the phone is at best, average, when the volume is set to max, some sounds like "pure tone" will distort just a bit, its very dissapointing in a phone this expensive, but then again samsung cannot be compared to sony in that area, i can also confirm this as normal.
5) The phones ive seen which did not have the blue tint issues when the phone is viewed from other angles had another problem when compared to the ones that actually did: The phone that did have blue tint issues, when viewed directly has very good Whites while the phone which does not have the blue tint issues when viewed from another angles even when looked at it directly it already has a shade of blue, so that might explain why this problem wasnt detected in that phone.
6) When you view in a browser some images, you will notice that on your left corner of the screen there is a white pixel, dont worry, it is not a dead pixel, to confirm this all u need to do is to view the picture horizontaly, notice how the white pixel changed sides with the top left corner?
According to BarriH_GEG, It's there to keep a service alive in support of hardware acceleration in the stock browser. They chose white because the majority of web pages are white or lighter colors
7) Poor wifi conectivity while holding the back of the phone with both hands, it happened in all 3 of my phones aswell, this is also probably normal.
8) The screen displays a slight shift of color at the left side of the screen, its very hard to notice but its there, people refer to it as "yellow tint", for more information please visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079444
Thanks to: Sp1tfire for letting me know about this issue, i cannot confirm if this issue is normal or not for all phones as ive only done this test on my third phone (which also semms to slightly change hue a bit in that thread OP website, its almost unoticeable but its there).
9) When viewing white objects with the camera on low to medium light condition there is a pink circle noticed in the middle of the picture, i havent tested this with all 3 phones but from i can tell in this thread it happens on all of them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1079444
Thanks to: Sp1tfire for pointing this issue also.
10) A bit less significant but still noteworthy: if you change your brightness setting in a dark room or area from auto to manual and put it at max, exit the brightness setting and try to put it back to automatic, you will notice that its stuck at max even though it should drop it alot, to fix this all you need to do is to flash a light source at the upper front side of your phone and then take it away, it will now work again.
Notes: If the phone is viewed directly and has a blue tint on it, it is broken, if it displays of red tint or yellow tint its also broken and you should trade it if it bothers you, make sure to scan for dead pixels by using full screen images of blues, reds, greens, black and white. If the image is pure to those colors and theres 1 or more pixel displaying something differently that means the phone has dead pixels and should be also swapped.
Hope this helps some people to not waste their time like i did, i feel a bit disapointed because my first phone apparently had nothing wrong with it, so at least i can help you not to make the same mistakes as i did.
After swapping my phone 2 times and finding these issues, i would surelly want to trade it for an alternative! but unfortunatelly reality came to me everytime the shop manager asked: "Do you want the same model or a different one?" Then it made me think, what model? Sure Xperia Arc and Play are cool phones, but they dont come even close to the performance of this phone and honestly none other dual core phones have OLED screen and even compared to those this phone is alot better in performance, so i came to realise there was really no choice, if i wanted the best in performance and the best in image quality then this phone was, is and will be the answear for time to come.
These issues do not bother me very much as my third phone is still a galaxy s2 but every person is different, if it bothers you that much then in the end you can always think of the future and what phones it reserves, if you want the best in performance and image quality right now then this phones is the answear.
Best Regards!

TheWarKeeper said:
Hey, i have a samsung galaxy s2 and just like you i had been struggling to get a proper phone with no overheating and the weird blue tint on the screen when you view the screen from different angles, i have noticed very few galaxy s2 without this blue shifting problem when viewed the screen from another side and i can explain why after this:
1) Ive swapped my phone 2 times now, the first, the second, the third and the manager phone all reproduce this issue, the screen looks just fine when viewed straigth but if you try to view it from another angle the screen will turn a bit to blue, it is most noticeable in white backgrounds.
Not my phone .
2) All of my three phones have blurring issues when in motion, you can clearly see it when the text is white and the background is black, altough this blurring is very small compared to the top of the line LCD screens its still there on all 3 phones so i can confirm this as normal.
not my phone
3) The 2 phones i had all had random overheating issues, this must have something to do with either a design flaw or lack of quality in programming the OS for the phone, this is also normal for your phone to happen as it happened in the last 2 of mines, i will check if it happens in the third too and will post back results in this thread.
Overheating NO but does get warm at times .
4) The speaker quality of the phone is at best, average, when the volume is set to max, some sounds like "pure tone" will distort just a bit, its very dissapointing in a phone this expensive, but then again samsung cannot be compared to sony in that area, i can also confirm this as normal.
Excellent headphone sound as good as i need/want .
But its user choice i have problems phone goes back to seller .
Somebody points out i have a problem that i cannot see but i have this problem as they say then unless i see it it is not a problem .
jje
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JJEgan said:
Not my phone .
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+1
I think people have much different expectations.

JJEgan said:
TheWarKeeper said:
Hey, i have a samsung galaxy s2 and just like you i had been struggling to get a proper phone with no overheating and the weird blue tint on the screen when you view the screen from different angles, i have noticed very few galaxy s2 without this blue shifting problem when viewed the screen from another side and i can explain why after this:
1) Ive swapped my phone 2 times now, the first, the second, the third and the manager phone all reproduce this issue, the screen looks just fine when viewed straigth but if you try to view it from another angle the screen will turn a bit to blue, it is most noticeable in white backgrounds.
Not my phone .
2) All of my three phones have blurring issues when in motion, you can clearly see it when the text is white and the background is black, altough this blurring is very small compared to the top of the line LCD screens its still there on all 3 phones so i can confirm this as normal.
not my phone
3) The 2 phones i had all had random overheating issues, this must have something to do with either a design flaw or lack of quality in programming the OS for the phone, this is also normal for your phone to happen as it happened in the last 2 of mines, i will check if it happens in the third too and will post back results in this thread.
Overheating NO but does get warm at times .
4) The speaker quality of the phone is at best, average, when the volume is set to max, some sounds like "pure tone" will distort just a bit, its very dissapointing in a phone this expensive, but then again samsung cannot be compared to sony in that area, i can also confirm this as normal.
Excellent headphone sound as good as i need/want .
But its user choice i have problems phone goes back to seller .
Somebody points out i have a problem that i cannot see but i have this problem as they say then unless i see it it is not a problem .
jje
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lol not your phone because u dont bother or dont know how to look for those problems, there are people in this forum who reported these issues, the point of this thread is to tell them the experience i had myself with it and to help them conclude that unfortunatelly it is normal .
Your phone will have that problem aswell since its how the phone is made, the only way for you to not overheat is to not use the apps i and some other ppl are using, and the only way for you to not have the blue tint when looking at different angles is your phone already having a slightly blueish white, independently of any angle viewed.
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Yes oh wise one i shall indeed pay lip service to your well informed ramblings and bow down before you the fount of all knowledge .
What time is the next meeting of the flat earth society pray do tell .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
jje

Rofl, not another yellow-tint type thread

Well the guy has done some serious research on 4 phones out of the 5 million or is it 55 million sold .
He sees a problem on four so by definition you have been told YOU and the millions of others have a problem don't argue its a scientific test .
jje

Why couldn't this be added to the many other threads. Please stop speaking for every sgs2.
1- only time I can see any kind of blue tint is if my eye is literally at the charging port. Non issue here.
2- wtf are you talking about. No lag/blur whatsoever here. Only time I see anything considered lag is on the lockscreen but that's the CPU.
3-my phone gets warm when playing intensive games(samurai 2-ps1 emu) after playing a long time. I've had phone since release day and never have gotten uncomfortable hot. I also ran my cpu at 1.7 for 2 weeks using tegrak. Running at 1.5 with cognition rom now with no overheating.
4- I run a grooming salon with mostly dogs, cats and some birds. I listen to my 30gb of music from 9-6ish. I can clearly hear music from speaker over barking dogs all day. Volume at 30% with stock headphones. And this is over music/advertisement playing from loudspeaker. I do use dsl manager to add more base and also poweramp.
5. See number 1
6. Can't see a white pixel left right up or down the screen. What I thought was a dead pixel the first day of ownership quickly disappeared. I have no issues besides the useragent desktop default.
Please stop speaking for everyone. I think there's roughly 3+ million sgs2 sold, we would see more people having your issues.
Remember specially with forums people(noobs/trolls) with complaints typically post more in general section than user without. If you actually read thru threads there's not that many users having the issue.
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Sp1tfire said:
Rofl, not another yellow-tint type thread
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Was it the "many other people" reference that tipped you off

This is a silly post. Please speak for yourself. No problems other than the phone getting hot sometimes which is expected. Go get an iphone

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This is a silly post. Please speak for yourself. No problems other than the phone getting hot sometimes which is expected. Go get an iphone
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That's harsh. There's a vocal minority that gets revved up about certain issues. It's real to them and I think they feel it is or should be to everyone else too. The ironic thing is when you look at the other dual-core phones the SGS2 has 1/10 the issues. Perfect's a great ideal but doesn't exist. It's always funny when people pick one feature from another phone and bash the SGS2 because it's not as good. Life doesn't work that way. If your Nokia camera's so great, swell. Than stick with a single core Symbian phone. Unless a do-it-yourself hardware kit is released that allows you to use a Nokia camera, SE display, Nexus Wi-Fi, and someone else's GPS you take the good with the bad. For the vast majority the SGS2's good way outweighs the bad and judge the phone on the sum of its parts. Different strokes for different folks.

no clue what you guys are trying to proove except that youre oblivious to these problems... its how the phone is made, theres no such thing as oh they probably made a worse manufacturing process on ur phone screen, you just cant notice it because u dont know how to look for it...
PS for anyone who says they cant see any blurr in motion, if u cant see it on a 2msgtg lcd screen then you will surely not know how to look for it in this oled phone as its alot less noticeable.
Ive never said yellow tint phones were normal, i said that blue tint when changing angle of view is.

BarryH_GEG said:
Unless a do-it-yourself hardware kit is released that allows you to use a Nokia camera, SE display, Nexus Wi-Fi, and someone else's GPS you take the good with the bad. For the vast majority the SGS2's good way outweighs the bad and judge the phone on the sum of its parts. Different strokes for different folks.
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Actually, i thought of starting a thread named something like "The perfect phone" where you add different parts/hardware/software from different phones and build your ideal phone. Obviously, i won't, although would be fun to see people's opinions about the perfect screen, perfect camera, etc.
P.S. Thank God i have a poor eyesight and i'm such an ignorant, this way i can consider my phone to be very close to perfection

blunted09 said:
This is a silly post. Please speak for yourself. No problems other than the phone getting hot sometimes which is expected. Go get an iphone
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So you're saying that if someone wants a phone without any issues, they should "go get an iphone"?

slick69 said:
So you're saying that if someone wants a phone without any issues, they should "go get an iphone"?
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rofl im amazed at how many trolls are in this forum, but i guess i should be used to amateurs talking trash... eh? forgot to mention another issue as normal, will update thread soon
EDIT: first post updated, im considering adding gun bros and pocket legends to overheating list, what do you guys think?

TheWarKeeper said:
rofl im amazed at how many trolls are in this forum, but i guess i should be used to amateurs talking trash... eh? forgot to mention another issue as normal, will update thread soon
EDIT: first post updated, im considering adding gun bros and pocket legends to overheating list, what do you guys think?
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May i add another issue to your list ? Out of the 3 million units sold, some have psychotic owners. Fortunately, problem is not that widespread as the yellow-tint issue.

Sp1tfire said:
May i add another issue to your list ? Out of the 3 million units, sold some have psychotic owners. Fortunately, problem is not that widespread as the yellow-tint issue.
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I cant see how that is an issue with the phone though

OP thanks for the post - very good & informative, at least for new SGS2 owners or potential SGS2 owners.
Too bad that some people here act so pathetic and start bashing.
I can confirm the "issues" on mine.

DSF said:
OP thanks for the post - very good & informative, at least for new SGS2 owners or potential SGS2 owners.
Too bad that some people here act so pathetic and start bashing.
I can confirm the "issues" on mine.
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thanks, glad youve found it usefull, that was the whole point of the thread, to make people rest knowning that these are not faults experienced only by them, it happens on all phones, even though someone mentioned there are 5 million of those phones sold, seeying 4 random samsung galaxy s2 phones with the exact same list of "issues" is more than just a "coincidence" as a user pointed out.
Ive also specified why some very rare phones have no blue tint visible.
PS: Even though i see an updated version of gun bros today i can still sense it heating up a bit, im not letting this one reaching the point of overheating but if anyone is interested in knowing where it overheats, it happens mostly on the upper side of the phone leaving the down side only a bit warm, to avoid this overheating what i do is go to applications and exit all of them, go to ram manager and clearing it up, this prevents my phone from overheating in that game to insane levels.

added gun bros, pocket legends, wifi conectivity issue and light sensing to the list.

[Q] Strange vertical lines on brand new device

Hi guys.
Just recieved my brand new Nexus 4. Haven't rooted anything yet but I can notice some strange vertical "lines" of no colour. You can just say they are present and they give some weird discoloration, seen especially in the Settings menu,
Also noticed that my Antutu 3.0 closed itself (dunno why... it's 2GB of RAM...) only once and after one of several Antutu benchmarks there were some red lines... rectangles or some other stuff moving across the screen while in multitasking menu.
Now I'm a bit worried aboy the lines especially. Does it mean that I've just got a faulty device
Please check your Nexus 4's: just set the brightness to maximum and go to the Settings menu. If you see such not moving vertical lines (they are slight but still enough noticeable to see!) please report.
I live in Poland and I really would not want to RMA it since I would have to send it back to US...
EDIT: To add, the lines are especially seen on grey background, if it matters. But I can barely see them on my main screen too... I've also thought about the protective foil which is still present on both the front and back of my Nexus, but I don't think it may be causing it...

That's almost a description of the digitizer grid. Normally if it's at all visible it would require direct sunlight at specific angles. It would appear as metallic dots in vertical lines that reflect the sunlight. Perhaps the digitizer got bonded to the glass incorrectly? Give it a few days and see, it's well known that some bonding issues stabilize after a short while. If it's still very noticeable and bothers you, RMA the phone.

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That's almost a description of the digitizer grid. Normally if it's at all visible it would require direct sunlight at specific angles. It would appear as metallic dots in vertical lines that reflect the sunlight. Perhaps the digitizer got bonded to the glass incorrectly? Give it a few days and see, it's well known that some bonding issues stabilize after a short while. If it's still very noticeable and bothers you, RMA the phone.
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I'm almost sure it's not digitizer. I've seen it a few times on my dad's Xperia Neo V, and it just looks totally different. Also, I really can't see any dots. The thing that bothers me is the lines seem to be standing in their place all the time... I haven't seen this yet on any phone,
But, as you said, I'm giving it a few days. Also, I'll compare the screens when my 2nd Nexus arrives, so I'll find out if it's an issue or is it just normal (if it really CAN be normal...).

not in any particular order. factory reset it. get z-device test from the play store and run a test on the screen. dont run benchmarks on this phone. many people are having issues. and dont overclock. people are bricking their phones. i think they overheat.

Shouldn't be anything to worry about

Anyone got these lines or am I the only one to worry about them... :/ ?

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Anyone got these lines or am I the only one to worry about them... :/ ?
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Are you able to get a picture for us to see and compare?
I have lines, more like dots when angling the phone. They look like solar panel reflection, as a description. Only visible under strong sun light.
I also see rectangle impressions at certain angles;
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Here it is.
They're a little less noticeable in reality (I wanted to show them clearly), but they are. It becomes really annoying especially on one-colour backgrounds (greys!) and when swiping screens from one side to another.
Maybe it will cure itself? I really wouldn't like to do an RMA since, as I already mentioned, I live in Poland, and it would be pain to send it back to US and wait another months for new one (likely with some issues too...).
Please report whether you've got these.
PS. I also see those rectangles, but only at a very specific angle, and these are really not noticeable at all. All that bothers me are these lines...

I also get these lines when I turn the brightness up high

So I guess I'm not alone with this (issue?). If anyone spots the lines please report. It's really important to me as I'll be living with this device for probably a year or so and I really don't want to know that my phone is defective...
It's so sad; except lines, the phone is absolutely perfect; no overheating, no earphone buzz (at least not noticeable during calls at all), no yellow screen spots, no flickering, decent battery life... And now this.
Crap. Maybe that's just another "Nexus 4 feature" ?

Got my 2nd Nexus today and it's also got that strange banding. Guess it's somehow just normal...

You're seriously whining about this?? Really?!

nbell13 said:
You're seriously whining about this?? Really?!
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Not entirely. It becomes noticeable mainly in dark rooms, and I really like to browse the Web in my bed on my Nexus 4
I guess I am becoming used to it now. It starts to be less noticeable, especially outdoors where it can't be seen at all. So I'll just stick with that and probably keep the phone.

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Got my 2nd Nexus today and it's also got that strange banding. Guess it's somehow just normal...
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I am experiencing the exact same issue you are describing and am worried myself. I just opened up my phone today. Did you end up RMAing the device? With people claiming that this is one of the best displays out there, it seems like more people would notice this problem, especially since it is so noticeable from the settings menu.

Here's a picture of the screen banding.

Yeah same issue here guys ... Already some post about it. I'm used to see thèse now but very visible at high light and grey or setting background.

gagaohlala said:
Yeah same issue here guys ... Already some post about it. I'm used to see thèse now but very visible at high light and grey or setting background.
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So do all nexus 4s have this issue or should we be RMAing our devices?

i have this too...
why does iPhone 5 get display from lg and dont have this issue but lg themselves do?
strangely apple can handle lg's screens better than themselves
kind of sucks...
this is one of those things that once you've seen it you cant unsee it
i also have a little bump on my aluminum bezel you cant see it but everytime i scroll on the left side on the screen i feel it...

So I guess the majority of Nexus 4 devices have that, but bany users can just not be aware of this issue.
That kinda sucks, but for this price... it's totally acceptable for me

Just like to say that I also have them, they are more visible at higher brightness.

Rear Camera Problem

Hello,
So I've been keeping this to myself for awhile since I don't really use the camera on my phone that often, but it's starting to annoy the living hell out of me so here I am.
My i9301Is camera sucks. Specifically, the autofocus. It barely ever works. On the rare occasion that I want to take a photo, I am greeted by a a blurry viewfinder and I have to touch literally everywhere on the screen to find the green square, and even then I usually can't get the camera to focus on anything. This usually happens when the object is at a distance of 1 meter or further (macros are generally fine). Light conditions don't matter, it's always the same. Should I turn my phone in for repairs, or is every s3 neo like this?
Oh, it's the same on both stock and cm. Also tried several camera apps.
tl/dr: Focusing on the camera is iffy. Halp plz?

To clarify, I did drop my phone a few times so that might have something to do with it. Rest of the phone seems ok though.

SpaceDye said:
Hello,
So I've been keeping this to myself for awhile since I don't really use the camera on my phone that often, but it's starting to annoy the living hell out of me so here I am.
My i9301Is camera sucks. Specifically, the autofocus. It barely ever works. On the rare occasion that I want to take a photo, I am greeted by a a blurry viewfinder and I have to touch literally everywhere on the screen to find the green square, and even then I usually can't get the camera to focus on anything. This usually happens when the object is at a distance of 1 meter or further (macros are generally fine). Light conditions don't matter, it's always the same. Should I turn my phone in for repairs, or is every s3 neo like this?
Oh, it's the same on both stock and cm. Also tried several camera apps.
tl/dr: Focusing on the camera is iffy. Halp plz?
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oh, try to clear the lenses and flash. If problem persists then it can be a hardware problem but i am not sure about it.

Arsal7R said:
oh, try to clear the lenses and flash. If problem persists then it can be a hardware problem but i am not sure about it.
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I have already wiped the lens clean. There is a scratch on the glass, but it doesn't run across the lens hole so I doubt that's it. Oh well, I guess I'll take it to the shop. Thanks for the reply

A friend of mine have an i9301i and he is complaining about the same problem . He says the autofocus barely works, everytime he gets a red square ... Can i you please leave a feedback about what they told you in the store?

funchomix said:
A friend of mine have an i9301i and he is complaining about the same problem . He says the autofocus barely works, everytime he gets a red square ... Can i you please leave a feedback about what they told you in the store?
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I don't have this problem ,never. My autofocus works good. I got red square against direct sunlight .

Update: I noticed that this problem mostly occurs when I'm trying to take a photo of something that is on or near objects that have some fine detail on them, like the tiles and plants in these photos I took today. Objects on smooth surfaces usually turn out fine, but not always.
funchomix said:
A friend of mine have an i9301i and he is complaining about the same problem . He says the autofocus barely works, everytime he gets a red square ... Can i you please leave a feedback about what they told you in the store?
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Sure thing, however I'm unfortunately abroad on vacation at the moment. I'll take my phone to the Samsung service center when I go back, mid-September. I'll keep you posted.