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I am beginning to suspect that there may be a simple reason 'some' N7's are having crash issues with custom kernels/ROMs. I have a small temperature & CPO widget, and also use Sense Analog Clock w/system data, and I have been paying attention to - temperature. FULL DISCLOSURE: I use a case that is very solid and enclosing, as I travel a lot and want my N7 protected well, and that may be keeping some additional heat in via insulation.
In any event, I notice that the N7 starts out at about 79.5F, but with even moderate use, is over 85F. I use mine mostly for reading news and books, I don't play games on it, and only review the occasional youtube news video. Could the 'culprit' be simply overheating?
It would be interesting to have some small app that would record CPU, GPU & memory use, temperature, and 'crash' information - we might be able to get to the 'bottom' of the sporadic freezes/crashes that some are experiencing.
Will cross post this in a couple of places. jf
friedsonjm said:
I am beginning to suspect that there may be a simple reason 'some' N7's are having crash issues with custom kernels/ROMs. I have a small temperature & CPO widget, and also use Sense Analog Clock w/system data, and I have been paying attention to - temperature. FULL DISCLOSURE: I use a case that is very solid and enclosing, as I travel a lot and want my N7 protected well, and that may be keeping some additional heat in via insulation.
In any event, I notice that the N7 starts out at about 79.5F, but with even moderate use, is over 85F. I use mine mostly for reading news and books, I don't play games on it, and only review the occasional youtube news video. Could the 'culprit' be simply overheating?
It would be interesting to have some small app that would record CPU, GPU & memory use, temperature, and 'crash' information - we might be able to get to the 'bottom' of the sporadic freezes/crashes that some are experiencing.
Will cross post this in a couple of places. jf
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Desktop CPUs generally will run up to 85C, which is 185F. I suspect mobile CPUs are not specced nearly that high, but you have nothing to worry about there.
Are there variations, issues, solder problems? Sure, any of that could happen, and be exposed under various thermal stresses. But 85f is nothing to be concerned about.
khaytsus said:
Desktop CPUs generally will run up to 85C, which is 185F. I suspect mobile CPUs are not specced nearly that high, but you have nothing to worry about there.
Are there variations, issues, solder problems? Sure, any of that could happen, and be exposed under various thermal stresses. But 85f is nothing to be concerned about.
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Agreed... but I'm getting that on light usage - I wonder what the game players are getting.. and if heat is causing a lot of the problems being reported on the N7 on XDA...
My nexus 10 had become really warm around back camera after using chrome apps for a few minutes about 7 minutes or so. Web site I mostly visit are
kotaku.com
theverge.com
batoto.com
This noticeable warmness only occur when I use web browser app. Funny thing that when I watch movie using MX player Hw+, watching anime MKV 8 bit the device never seem to get hot, except when watching in SW for 10 bit anime it get extremely hot.
Youtube app also shows no singe of this warmness.
Do I get the defected device? Please help me with this I really don't want to get the replacement.
Thank you for your time.
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My nexus 10 had become really warm around back camera after using chrome apps for a few minutes about 7 minutes or so. Web site I mostly visit are
kotaku.com
theverge.com
batoto.com
This noticeable warmness only occur when I use web browser app. Funny thing that when I watch movie using MX player Hw+, watching anime MKV 8 bit the device never seem to get hot, except when watching in SW for 10 bit anime it get extremely hot.
Youtube app also shows no singe of this warmness.
Do I get the defected device? Please help me with this I really don't want to get the replacement.
Thank you for your time.
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If it's only getting hot with certain apps or content, it's probably those apps or content stressing your device, not the device being defective. This CPU does get a bit hot sometimes. I don't know if all ARM CPUs are like this, or just the ones I have.
I suggest you install the Battery Widget app by Elvison, so that you can see how hot Android says the CPU is getting when you do these things. We can then compare temperatures, if you also note the background temperature in your town when you are testing, so we can compare how much hotter the device gets from the baseline background temperature. I have gotten my HTC One X+ to report a temperature of 60 degrees C when playing a lot of HD video, but while my Nexus 10 gets somewhat hot, it never gets that hot. :fingers-crossed:
benzs129 said:
My nexus 10 had become really warm around back camera after using chrome apps for a few minutes about 7 minutes or so. Web site I mostly visit are
kotaku.com
theverge.com
batoto.com
This noticeable warmness only occur when I use web browser app. Funny thing that when I watch movie using MX player Hw+, watching anime MKV 8 bit the device never seem to get hot, except when watching in SW for 10 bit anime it get extremely hot.
Youtube app also shows no singe of this warmness.
Do I get the defected device? Please help me with this I really don't want to get the replacement.
Thank you for your time.
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Hi, that is perfectly normal. What a lot of people don't know is that web rendering is one/if not the most CPU intensive ask you'll do on your tablet. So for it to get warm at the back after several minutes stressing the CPU out from web rendering is not bad at all. It's nothing to worry about, every phone/ tablet does this. Hope this helps
Plus the wifi chip dumps out a lot of heat just by itself, even if it isnt even being used very hard.
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Plus the wifi chip dumps out a lot of heat just by itself, even if it isnt even being used very hard.
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The wifi combo chips don't draw a lot of power, and usually go into a low-power idle mode for even less draw (already just a few milliwatts max)...
(Giving benefit of doubt because N10 has dual MIMO fancy chip. Might draw a bit more. Still feels wrong, though.)
Are you sure?
Yep I am very sure. If I leave the wifi on when I play a game I will hit thermal throttling WAY faster than with it off, and the tablet feels much warmer overall as well. Turning wifi off and doing the same thing lowers the reported temperatures by around 5-6 degrees Celsius.
believe it or not it probably chrome... i had the same issue with my nexus 4.... try using boat browser or something else lightweight and see if that changes anything
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Yep I am very sure. If I leave the wifi on when I play a game I will hit thermal throttling WAY faster than with it off, and the tablet feels much warmer overall as well. Turning wifi off and doing the same thing lowers the reported temperatures by around 5-6 degrees Celsius.
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Right, but the correlation between heat reducing with wifi off doesn't mean the wifi chip itself is the source of the heat. It could just as easily be that having wifi on allows background processes to connect to the network, and their use of the CPU increases load, thus heat.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that assuming cause from correlation is tricky.
Should be easy to resolve for someone with a laser thermometer.
Another thought: Display brightness is directly related to a fair amount of heat output. Maybe you changed that setting.
Does anyone encounter any serious stuttering or lag when they are scrolling a page on the internet. If anyone has any tips on how to fix it than I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm up to date so I'm hoping there is a quick fix I can do.
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Does anyone encounter any serious stuttering or lag when they are scrolling a page on the internet. If anyone has any tips on how to fix it than I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm up to date so I'm hoping there is a quick fix I can do.
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Depending on the web page, it doesn't scroll as smoothly as an iPad if thats what you were hoping for. But this is the case I find with most android devices. Although, it has been reported that rooting the device and turning off, some of the Samsung Bloatware such as Knox applications, improves it significantly. I personally won't do that because I do like some of the samsung apps and don't want to mess up the tablet's S-Pen functionality, even though the rooting supposedly doesn't mess with that.
A friend of mine recently bought the wifi version and together with my lte variant we started doing some everyday performance comparisons.
One of the things we noted immediately was the stuttering when scrolling in the browser or when pulling down the notification bar. It was nonexistent in the wifi version , but the lte version (even though rooted and free of bloatware) was constantly stuttering. I just hope it was the effect of the performance updates the wifi version received, else I have to say the exynos is superior. What do I want with a snapdragon that can't even handle smooth scrolling..?
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Does anyone encounter any serious stuttering or lag when they are scrolling a page on the internet. If anyone has any tips on how to fix it than I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm up to date so I'm hoping there is a quick fix I can do.
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A friend of mine recently bought the wifi version and together with my lte variant we started doing some everyday performance comparisons.
One of the things we noted immediately was the stuttering when scrolling in the browser or when pulling down the notification bar. It was nonexistent in the wifi version , but the lte version (even though rooted and free of bloatware) was constantly stuttering. I just hope it was the effect of the performance updates the wifi version received, else I have to say the exynos is superior. What do I want with a snapdragon that can't even handle smooth scrolling..?
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Thats surprising as I thought for sure the snapdragon would be superior. I have read the speed comparison tests and it gets better benchmarks than the wifi version. The only surprise down the road is the rumored patch that samsung is working on that will allow all eight cores to work simultaneously together which would make the enynos version faster.
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A friend of mine recently bought the wifi version and together with my lte variant we started doing some everyday performance comparisons.
One of the things we noted immediately was the stuttering when scrolling in the browser or when pulling down the notification bar. It was nonexistent in the wifi version , but the lte version (even though rooted and free of bloatware) was constantly stuttering. I just hope it was the effect of the performance updates the wifi version received, else I have to say the exynos is superior. What do I want with a snapdragon that can't even handle smooth scrolling..?
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My device is the wifi version. Yet still horrible choppiness, stuttering, lagging when I scroll. It is starting to feel like a game breaker to me which would be ashame because the S pen feature is the most wonderfully polished feature ever. I'm a student of course though.
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Depending on the web page, it doesn't scroll as smoothly as an iPad if thats what you were hoping for. But this is the case I find with most android devices. Although, it has been reported that rooting the device and turning off, some of the Samsung Bloatware such as Knox applications, improves it significantly. I personally won't do that because I do like some of the samsung apps and don't want to mess up the tablet's S-Pen functionality, even though the rooting supposedly doesn't mess with that.
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I find it really curious though that with 3 gigs of ram and the type of processor this device has that it shouldn't be running as smoothly as the ipad. I mean spec wise this thing is a monster. Is it just bad software optimization? I'm also afraid of rooting because I've never done it and the term is pretty new to me. I know I'm a noob
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I find it really curious though that with 3 gigs of ram and the type of processor this device has that it shouldn't be running as smoothly as the ipad. I mean spec wise this thing is a monster. Is it just bad software optimization? I'm also afraid of rooting because I've never done it and the term is pretty new to me. I know I'm a noob
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im also scared of rooting.
pretty bad when you have to do something drastic and invalidate your warranty on a £450 tablet just to get it to work properly...
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Does anyone encounter any serious stuttering or lag when they are scrolling a page on the internet. If anyone has any tips on how to fix it than I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm up to date so I'm hoping there is a quick fix I can do.
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Are you using the stock browser? I'm using Dolphin HD. I also downloaded Flash. I found that switching flash to on demand vs always on seemed to help. I occasionally get a slight freeze or crash but overall I'm pretty happy with the Web browsing.
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Are you using the stock browser? I'm using Dolphin HD. I also downloaded Flash. I found that switching flash to on demand vs always on seemed to help. I occasionally get a slight freeze or crash but overall I'm pretty happy with the Web browsing.
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I've used puffin, chrome, and stock. In fact, the stock browser has the least issue. Also, has anyone noticed that youtube videos that say HD don't look very good. Sorry, it's my first time with a tablet.
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Thats surprising as I thought for sure the snapdragon would be superior. I have read the speed comparison tests and it gets better benchmarks than the wifi version. The only surprise down the road is the rumored patch that samsung is working on that will allow all eight cores to work simultaneously together which would make the enynos version faster.
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Actually seems like Samsung have nipped that in the bud by saying the wont be doing that.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Note...Exynos-performance-patch-says-Samsung_id47977
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Are you using the stock browser? I'm using Dolphin HD. I also downloaded Flash. I found that switching flash to on demand vs always on seemed to help. I occasionally get a slight freeze or crash but overall I'm pretty happy with the Web browsing.
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Where did you get the flash from..adobe's site says that flash isn't supported anymore since on all devices after july 15th i believe. if you could provide that link it would be great..thx
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I've used puffin, chrome, and stock. In fact, the stock browser has the least issue. Also, has anyone noticed that youtube videos that say HD don't look very good. Sorry, it's my first time with a tablet.
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To be honest, I believe this might be an issue with youtube. I noticed on my note 2014 that I'm only able to play 720p youtube videos. I've tried Tubemate as well as other 3rd party youtube apps that allow you to download videos and I never get any options above 720p quality. Why google/youtube would impose this restriction I have no idea.
The problem with this is that on a tablet with 2560x1600 resolution, content shot at 1280x720 resolution can look less than impressive. However, when you get a hold of quality 1080p content the screen is downright amazing.
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Where did you get the flash from..adobe's site says that flash isn't supported anymore since on all devices after july 15th i believe. if you could provide that link it would be great..thx
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907606&highlight=dolphin+flash
Geordie Affy said:
Actually seems like Samsung have nipped that in the bud by saying the wont be doing that.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Note...Exynos-performance-patch-says-Samsung_id47977
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I already think this tablet gets way too hot for doing normal stuff. I'm not touching octa even if somebody figures out how to hack it. It would probably melt my precious plastic leather.
I'll patiently wait for Samsung to optimize the software. I know this hardware is capable enough, damn it. It's a freaking pull down. That can't be that intensive as to bring a 1.9GHz quadcore to its knees unless somebody coded it wrong.
I think performance is decent enough for this tablet without the octa patch. That is once you tinker with it and optimize everything. My rooted, customized galaxy s3 runs smoother than the beast of a note sometimes. But anyway, that's the fun part.
As for lag or stutter, I do get it, but I think after rooting and cleaning up Samsung's touchwiz, it will get much better.
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Thats surprising as I thought for sure the snapdragon would be superior. I have read the speed comparison tests and it gets better benchmarks than the wifi version. The only surprise down the road is the rumored patch that samsung is working on that will allow all eight cores to work simultaneously together which would make the enynos version faster.
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It wouldn't make it faster anyways....it would just increase battery life as the four cores that become available to you when you need high performance and have high cpu load is the slow, low speed, but power efficient chips. This is with the rumored patch of course. If you already have the a15 based chips all on and ruining at max freq then you will get nothing g, or next to nothing, from turning on 4 lower power ones.
It would be like driving a Ferrari 150mph down a race track and saying you are going to give yourself a speed boost by pushing with your feet....just ain't gonna happen
But in the case of the exynos, you will at least have the option of saving fuel (battery power) by pushing with your feet (using the low power cores) so it would be nice, but it's also been stated by mire than a few people, not sure how reliable these sources are but it's been said by mire than a couple sources, that there will be no patch for the note 3 or the note 10.1 2014 as this functionality will be savedfor a next generation device. Sad but also makes a little sense as these current devices are already basically top of the line and best I'm class, or at least right up there, as far as hardware specs go. Software may not be considered top notch by all but that isn't the point here as if these devices were patched or the functionality was released on the next generation, they both will still come with touch wiz software and thus the software part of it is a moot point. The point is, with or without this functionality, the people who would want to buy it are not concerned about it having touchwiz and thus they are getting the top end device either way. Why would Samsung push this generation device that much farther ahead when they still have a top end device and can save that "trick" for the next iteration....
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Shield tablet is pretty good after i flashed roms
HOWEVER
Thermal throttling is still an issue for tegra
while playing real racing 3, it keeps lowering the cpu frequency and make the game so laggy
Which seriously ruins user experience
thermal throttling starts at a frigging 50 degree celcius!!!!!!
Anyone has an idea to fix that?
I have been tried working on /d/tegra_throttle but it's not really working
Hope to be fixed through disabling it or raising up the threshold temperature (i.e. 80C)
bruce2662 said:
Shield tablet is pretty good after i flashed roms
HOWEVER
Thermal throttling is still an issue for tegra
while playing real racing 3, it keeps lowering the cpu frequency and make the game so laggy
Which seriously ruins user experience
thermal throttling starts at a frigging 50 degree celcius!!!!!!
Anyone has an idea to fix that?
I have been tried working on /d/tegra_throttle but it's not really working
Hope to be fixed through disabling it or raising up the threshold temperature (i.e. 80C)
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Lol, afaik doesnt throttle at 50c
bruce2662 said:
Shield tablet is pretty good after i flashed roms
HOWEVER
Thermal throttling is still an issue for tegra
while playing real racing 3, it keeps lowering the cpu frequency and make the game so laggy
Which seriously ruins user experience
thermal throttling starts at a frigging 50 degree celcius!!!!!!
Anyone has an idea to fix that?
I have been tried working on /d/tegra_throttle but it's not really working
Hope to be fixed through disabling it or raising up the threshold temperature (i.e. 80C)
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I have an LTE shield and although I have two other phones that are unlocked and rooted,this time i decided that i would keep this device standard and i have to say, I do not,repeat,do not, have any lag or thermal throttling issues that you speak of?? not sure what changes you've made to yours but up to now I have had only a great experience with this tablet absolutely great, gaming has been brilliant.a great piece of kit,i was going to buy a nexus 9 but after reading all the negative reviews i'm glad I chose this instead and it turned into a right hassle trying to get the nexus,anyhow cancelled and very pleased I did now-faultless in my eyes.I run both real racing two and three and a few other high end games and have only praise for the experience,don't know why you are having the problems you write about.but just sharing my experience. cheers
bruce2662 said:
Shield tablet is pretty good after i flashed roms
HOWEVER
Thermal throttling is still an issue for tegra
while playing real racing 3, it keeps lowering the cpu frequency and make the game so laggy
Which seriously ruins user experience
thermal throttling starts at a frigging 50 degree celcius!!!!!!
Anyone has an idea to fix that?
I have been tried working on /d/tegra_throttle but it's not really working
Hope to be fixed through disabling it or raising up the threshold temperature (i.e. 80C)
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Sorry but i'm yet to find a way to make my shield tablet throttling I can play GTA or doom3 settings maxed out with shield CPU set to max performance for two hours without making it throttle.
Something wrong with the OPs tablet. The Shield Tablet thermal behaviour is impeccable, see the Anandtech review. Like the other posters I get no throttling.
bruce2662 said:
Shield tablet is pretty good after i flashed roms
HOWEVER
Thermal throttling is still an issue for tegra
while playing real racing 3, it keeps lowering the cpu frequency and make the game so laggy
Which seriously ruins user experience
thermal throttling starts at a frigging 50 degree celcius!!!!!!
Anyone has an idea to fix that?
I have been tried working on /d/tegra_throttle but it's not really working
Hope to be fixed through disabling it or raising up the threshold temperature (i.e. 80C)
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Which roms ?
Have the European Lte version running on complete stock Lollipop. This thing is awesome, no lags or freezes. All Games are running great and i didn't notice any throttle until now, btw. i played Half Life 2 for about 4 hours on max performance settings while charging!
I also do not get throttling. It has only heated up once on me after being in recovery for a while. Standard use the thing isn't even warm to the touch. Either something is keeping your cpu at max freq or your tab is indeed defective.
bruce2662 said:
Shield tablet is pretty good after i flashed roms
HOWEVER
Thermal throttling is still an issue for tegra
while playing real racing 3, it keeps lowering the cpu frequency and make the game so laggy
Which seriously ruins user experience
thermal throttling starts at a frigging 50 degree celcius!!!!!!
Anyone has an idea to fix that?
I have been tried working on /d/tegra_throttle but it's not really working
Hope to be fixed through disabling it or raising up the threshold temperature (i.e. 80C)
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This is a Shield tablet not a MiPad or a Nexus 9,
on my side i never noticed throttling no matter what game i played (on or off AC power ) but i am on a pure stock 5.0 (why change the perfection when everythings works fine?)
Real Racing3 temps 62-66°c average no throttle,
4hrs of Kritika 68° at max,
rendering a 5 minutes scene in loop for 2hrs with Music Girl (variable physics, accuracy set on 1/180, textures max) 75°
(never got past 75° even in Antutu 3DMark or any benchmark)
OP seems to be a troll, he posted the same at the z3c forums
No throttling here either, I use system monitor to verify that easy enough.
I've twenty odd games installed, HL,HLP1,Portal, RR3, MC4, MC5, damn maybe too many lol.
No throttling, considering that the metal frame is a kind of heat sink the way the tablet is built is no surprise, what is though is someone blaming throttling for stutter especially on RR3, its a mild game, perhaps their tablet is not so well set up, poor memory card, Facebook who knows.
Could be as suggested someone trolling.
WR
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[...] Facebook who knows.
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Laughed way too hard at this, although sadly you're right.
That thermal throttling is definitely a problem with your device OP. Talk to NVIDIA about it, see if they'll do an RMA.
After reading he is having other issues like laggy rotation and stuff, I believe him.
Though, like above, it's not normal per this tablet and I bet it's something gone bad on install or no hard reset after upgrade.
It's worth investigating for sure.
My money is always on Facebook though, dirty dirty app.
WR
Hello all, one of the main reasons why i chose the xperia z1 compact over a galaxy s5 by then was that i knew that z1 compact had much more power to spare for future gaming thanks to the low screen resolution, It was very hard for me to choose this time galaxy s6 over z5 compact for the same reason, but i succumbed to the bigger better oled screen this time around even though i was upset at the senseless screen resolution of 1440 x 2560 which made it clear that the phone would struggle with current high end games to keep 60fps let alone future games...
Well after playing Dead Trigger 2 with all gfx on max surprise surprise, the phone could not keep up with its absurd screen resolution a steady 60fps so i started thinking if there was a proper screen res changer tool this time around as i was a bit familiar with some of them in the past which done a poor job and many times left the phone unusuable thx to the resolution affecting the OS itself aswell.
Well guess what, Samsung woke up and presented galaxy s6 owners (and some other high end galaxy models) with a very nice solution.
Its called Game Tuner, officially made by Samsung and you can find it here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.gametuner.thin&hl=pt_PT
What it does is exactly what all the games should have in the first place, options to choose resolution for your game without changing the resolution for your OS GUI, on top of that, you have a nice control panel profile system which allows you to setup different settings for different games installed in your phone, this apps benefits you with the following:
1)Lower graphics resolution for any games of your choosing,
2) It allows you to even force 3D games which are running at a lower resolution than your screen to actually run at highest resolution supported by your screen,
3)It also allows you to lock FPS to 30 instead of 60 if you would like to preserve some battery life.
4)Allows you some brightness control per game.
Here are the more confusing settings explained:
High (turns all games to the highest resolution of the phone screen) almost impossible to observe pixelization
Medium (turns all games to a tad lower res (i believe 1920*1080) difficult to observe pixelization
Low (turns all games to an even lower res( i believe 1270*720) pixelization visible but not too ugly
Extreme Low (turns all games to the lowest resolution possible (i believe 840*472) as i see alot of pixelization
Custom (Allows you to select each game with a specific profile (high, medium, low, extreme low).
Now you can fully enjoy that 2k screen without reprecussions!
Give it a try and have fun!
EDIT: If any questions feel free to ask and ill try to help as i can.
Wow, thanks for sharing. Works great. You can even specify the resolution, fps and brightness per game.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G920F met Tapatalk
NP, glad you like it, updated thread with more information and corrected some grammar issues.
You can already find this in the S6 themes and apps section. No need to post this here
Thanks, this is really cool. I wouldn't have seen it if you hadn't posted it here! I wish it would actually tell you what resolution each of the settings are. I tried taking a screenshot in game after I enabled it and then checking the "details" in gallery but it still said 2560*1440.
Now I'd like to know how I can completely disable it? It seems even after uninstall the settings remain. I'd like to now bypass the 60FPS limit.
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Thanks, this is really cool. I wouldn't have seen it if you hadn't posted it here! I wish it would actually tell you what resolution each of the settings are. I tried taking a screenshot in game after I enabled it and then checking the "details" in gallery but it still said 2560*1440.
Now I'd like to know how I can completely disable it? It seems even after uninstall the settings remain. I'd like to now bypass the 60FPS limit.
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The settings wont remain after uninstalling, i say this because i tried it myself by setting a game to lowest resolution possible and after uninstalling it rolled back to normal, many people believe that, without modding, all games will run by default on the highest resolution supported by your screen, this is a false assumption, and you can easelly notice that with games such as Asphalt 8 and Real Racing 3.
Indeed it should specify resolution instead of "very low, low, med, high," thats why the thread settings are nothing more but assumptions.
Also setting it to MED is considered the default setting for said game in this app so maybe med is actually the default app resolution.
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You can already find this in the S6 themes and apps section. No need to post this here
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Well, i think it doesn't stress anybody, but the opposite: more users will know about it. It seems this app is not that popular, many users have no idea about it (i found it a couple of weeks ago by mistake in playstore).
The app should receive more coverage in media too. This will be a win-win situation for all, and maybe samsung will add a system-wide option for resolution change (yeah, keep dreaming)
I believe beying able to choose fullscreen resolution of your phone shouldve been a thing implemented by default, im Really happy that samsung thinked of this for my S6 as i can play games like dead effect 2 with extreme graphics but reduced resolution (almost imperceptible pixelization) and get a rock steady 60fps, the only strange thing it semms that it is happening is that after a level or two the game starts to loose performance, other users also reported this issue, samsung will hopefully fix it in the next app update.
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I believe beying able to choose fullscreen resolution of your phone shouldve been a thing implemented by default, im Really happy that samsung thinked of this for my S6 as i can play games like dead effect 2 with extreme graphics but reduced resolution (almost imperceptible pixelization) and get a rock steady 60fps, the only strange thing it semms that it is happening is that after a level or two the game starts to loose performance, other users also reported this issue, samsung will hopefully fix it in the next app update.
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I think you should also disable DVFS for optimal performance gains.
vnvman said:
I think you should also disable DVFS for optimal performance gains.
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Yes that would increase performance but its a heavy risk considering you might burn up ur cpu or gpu and void the warranty
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Yes that would increase performance but its a heavy risk considering you might burn up ur cpu or gpu and void the warranty
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I may be wrong but I assume unless you game all day long it shouldn't make too much of a difference in terms of lifespan (assuming one swaps phone every 2 years or so), pretty much like OC/OV.
vnvman said:
I may be wrong but I assume unless you game all day long it shouldn't make too much of a difference in terms of lifespan (assuming one swaps phone every 2 years or so), pretty much like OC/OV.
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Indeed OC reduces lifespan of said component but the problem is more serious than that, if you disable the throttle the GPU or CPU might overheat, it depends on the phone and the chips inside and also the heat dissipation quality which can range from different thermal pastes to different heatsinks and to where is that heat transfered after that, its a risk of hardware damage without knowing its internal chips temps.
But thats just me who knows maybe im wrong.
TheWarKeeper said:
Indeed OC reduces lifespan of said component but the problem is more serious than that, if you disable the throttle the GPU or CPU might overheat, it depends on the phone and the chips inside and also the heat dissipation quality which can range from different thermal pastes to different heatsinks and to where is that heat transfered after that, its a risk of hardware damage without knowing its internal chips temps.
But thats just me who knows maybe im wrong.
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Well that would totally make sense, but at least as to OC+slight OV it has been tested that the possibility of making some actual damage will most likely be very slim untill around the 5 year mark or so of usage. As to DVFS, by disabling that you don't actually disable throttling completely, which is still managed by the kernel (as it should), but only Samsung's more aggressive throttling which is completely unnecessary because it's always trying to keep the phone "super cool" at the expense of performance, while some people who are into heavy games would use a device hot to the point that it causes mild discomfort (but still safe for the components), rather than a device that is slightly cooler but gets laggy after 2 minutes of actual gameplay.
I guess it's up to the user to decide whether to mess with this or not, maybe for most people it won't be worth even the slight risks but for people like me who happen to enjoy heavy games and swap phones every year and a half or so it's good to have the option.
vnvman said:
Well that would totally make sense, but at least as to OC+slight OV it has been tested that the possibility of making some actual damage will most likely be very slim untill around the 5 year mark or so of usage. As to DVFS, by disabling that you don't actually disable throttling completely, which is still managed by the kernel (as it should), but only Samsung's more aggressive throttling which is completely unnecessary because it's always trying to keep the phone "super cool" at the expense of performance, while some people who are into heavy games would use a device hot to the point that it causes mild discomfort (but still safe for the components), rather than a device that is slightly cooler but gets laggy after 2 minutes of actual gameplay.
I guess it's up to the user to decide whether to mess with this or not, maybe for most people it won't be worth even the slight risks but for people like me who happen to enjoy heavy games and swap phones every year and a half or so it's good to have the option.
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I tought the DVFS disabled the throttle completely, its good to know it doesnt then and i agree, the samsung throttle is overreacting and prolly did better good with it off than on, thanks for your suggestion.
TheWarKeeper said:
Yes that would increase performance but its a heavy risk considering you might burn up ur cpu or gpu and void the warranty
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I play with Samsung DVFS always off and I can play dead effect for 2 hours straight without performance degradation... CPU doesn't go over 75-80*C depending on the ambient temperature