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Froyo?

Any idea when it might come out for the epic? In two, three weeks?

knowing samsung, never, but definately not until mid october, you really think any fix will come before all us models are out for 30 days with no chance of return? just like the gps fix, I would doubt we see anything until after the fascinate is out for 30 days. then samsung will lay the truth that its hardware issues.

Sammy's UK twitter account claimed end of september for the SGS phones, but it probably only meant the GSM versions. But maybe if we're lucky, we'll get it too

Firon said:
Sammy's UK twitter account claimed end of september for the SGS phones, but it probably only meant the GSM versions. But maybe if we're lucky, we'll get it too
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Sprint has already told Froyo for the Epic will come in September. Now, when exactly? Thats a whole different story.

I will be happy to see the features and speed increases that comes with 2.2. Going from 1.5 to 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.1 is two steps forward then one step back. That's no fun!

Looks like the official Froyo has leaked.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783403
International version only.
There is a user whom everyone respects in that thread, who almost certainly has an inside scoop into Samsung's affairs. He claims this is the one.

Not final and not froyo

I guess time will tell, but many are convinced at #project-voodoo.

mk262 said:
Not final and not froyo
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Pretty sure this is froyo. rhcp posted on his Twitter about this last night.

The T-Mobile leaked ROM we got recently is not Froyo, but according to the many posts this is Froyo for the International version. I'd imagine the US version is not far behind.

Samsung previously announced Sept 23 as the date that Galaxy S Froyo would be released to the carriers. This doesn't mean that we'll get OTA immediately after. TMO needs to brand/bloat it before enabling OTA. Even though Sept has been quoted repeatedly, I don't believe it's accurate for when we the end user will receive it. Considering the uproar around the GPS issue, I can see why they didn't wait for 2.2 to push out a fix before then.

We don't really need an ota version. As long as I can flash it with minimal glitchyness, I'm happy.
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d01100100 said:
Samsung previously announced Sept 23 as the date that Galaxy S Froyo would be released to the carriers. This doesn't mean that we'll get OTA immediately after. TMO needs to brand/bloat it before enabling OTA. Even though Sept has been quoted repeatedly, I don't believe it's accurate for when we the end user will receive it. Considering the uproar around the GPS issue, I can see why they didn't wait for 2.2 to push out a fix before then.
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Samsung has said nothing about Froyo release for any of the US versions of the Galaxy S. The only thing that was said by Samsung UK was Froyo to be released in September and a rumor from a non-confirmed source about the 23rd. I have no doubt that the "official" update for the international version will be in soon, but i kind of doubt that the one leaked today was the official version, from what i've heard theres still a few bugs.

Froyo Status Update - Can anyone read Korean?

http://www.androidcentral.com/leaked-e-mail-points-successful-froyo-testing-samsung-galaxy-s
http://forum.androidcentral.com/verizon-fascinate/39361-froyo-just-around-corner.html
This looks promising. Everyone would like a translation though.

Korean is my native language.
Summary:
The email says that the Froyo tests on Galaxy s phones have been completed.
And then it says there is no problem with sending out Galaxy S phones shipped with Froyo.
The attached photo there shows the test results for reference.
Updates will follow...
So, it looks like as of Sep 27, Froyo has been ready to be released to Galaxy S phones.

I would assume that Sprint likely has the update at this point. No doubt they'll take some time to add/test their bloatware. Here's hoping we see a leak soon.

i am waiting for a leak

You realize, of course, there's a difference between the international Galaxy S (that this most likely applies to) and the US variants (that it most likely does not). Not to mention there are differences BETWEEN the US variants themselves. I wouldn't take any document concerning a Galaxy S phone to be applicable unless it names the Epic or at least mentions CDMA somewhere.

kab0b0 said:
You realize, of course, there's a difference between the international Galaxy S (that this most likely applies to) and the US variants (that it most likely does not). Not to mention there are differences BETWEEN the US variants themselves. I wouldn't take any document concerning a Galaxy S phone to be applicable unless it names the Epic or at least mentions CDMA somewhere.
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Yes. It would still be a fair assumption that our build's development would not be far behind if not in lockstep with the build mentioned in the email. It would look very bad to have half of the Galaxy S phones running 2.2 while the others remained on 2.1. Samsung has done worse things though.

I'm thinking they wouldn't care too much about having the I9000 updated for a while before any of the US versions considering it was released a few months before any of them. I do agree that the Vibrant and possibly the Captivate will most likely see their Froyo release within a month of the I9000, but I'm thinking we won't see any action until a bit after that due to our CDMA radio.

kab0b0 said:
I'm thinking they wouldn't care too much about having the I9000 updated for a while before any of the US versions considering it was released a few months before any of them. I do agree that the Vibrant and possibly the Captivate will most likely see their Froyo release within a month of the I9000, but I'm thinking we won't see any action until a bit after that due to our CDMA radio.
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CDMA has been natively supported in Android since 1.6, so I'm really hoping that doesn't become the case. There just wouldn't be an excuse for it and would be terribly bad form on Samsung's part.
EDIT: One thing that I thought Samsung did very well was, while making the phone available on virtually every major carrier, keeping the 'Galaxy S' branding on them all. I think that the update becoming available at different times for each carrier would serve only to confuse the consumer and really hurt the brand. Hurting the brand would not be smart while they simultaneously launch the Galaxy Tab. That's just my two cents though.
If anything they should hoard the updates until they're all done, and then release them all at once. Perhaps that's what they're doing and how the Captivate's leaked build originated. </speculation>

illogic6 said:
If anything they should hoard the updates until they're all done, and then release them all at once. Perhaps that's what they're doing and how the Captivate's leaked build originated. </speculation>
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I read that Samsung is trying to update all Galaxy S (worldwide) at the same time. However, the actual time in US will be determined by the carrier.

acegolfer said:
I read that Samsung is trying to update all Galaxy S (worldwide) at the same time. However, the actual time in US will be determined by the carrier.
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If you could point me to your source on that, I would appreciate it.

illogic6 said:
If you could point me to your source on that, I would appreciate it.
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I don't remember exactly where so I googled it. This one is pretty close.
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/10/06/samsung-galaxy-s-update-on-android-2-2-froyo-release-date/

acegolfer said:
I don't remember exactly where so I googled it. This one is pretty close.
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/10/06/samsung-galaxy-s-update-on-android-2-2-froyo-release-date/
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That mentions only the UK carriers, but it wouldn't make any sense for their US strategy to be any different. Thanks.

this is normal for palm phones on sprint att and verizon

has been 2 weeks since 27 Sept. No official news from Samsung.
If the email refers to JPK, then I'm very worry, because it simply won't work with Exchange.

Well, this news and including the fact that they are releasing the Samsung Galaxy 551, a Samsung with slide-out keyboard, in Europe with Froyo in November:
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/06/low-end-samsung-galaxy-551-goes-official-for-389-euros/
Probably a good sign we'll be getting our Froyo in November?

crajee16 said:
Well, this news and including the fact that they are releasing the Samsung Galaxy 551, a Samsung with slide-out keyboard, in Europe with Froyo in November:
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/06/low-end-samsung-galaxy-551-goes-official-for-389-euros/
Probably a good sign we'll be getting our Froyo in November?
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Those renders definitely look like TouchWiz 3 as well. Thanks for the info.

illogic6, you are correct sir. Well, according to this link I found below.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/10/samsung_galaxy_551_is_now_official.html

crajee16 said:
Well, this news and including the fact that they are releasing the Samsung Galaxy 551, a Samsung with slide-out keyboard, in Europe with Froyo in November:
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/06/low-end-samsung-galaxy-551-goes-official-for-389-euros/
Probably a good sign we'll be getting our Froyo in November?
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Thanks.
FYI, this phone has no relationship to Galaxy S line. There are many Samsung Galaxy lines: A, S, U, etc. They all have different hardware.
One good sign is that they got Touch Wiz 3 in landscape mode.

I have a concern regarding future update. I recently read an article about a Samsung Galaxy K phone coming to Korean with 2.2. I'm just curious how long do you think Samsung with support the current Galaxy S platform? Or is this Galaxy K going to replace the Galaxy S phone and Samsung will drop support for the Galaxy S? Will we even get 3.0? Samsung promised 2.2 by the end of the year but never said anything about 3.0. Anyone?

crajee16 said:
I have a concern regarding future update. I recently read an article about a Samsung Galaxy K phone coming to Korean with 2.2. I'm just curious how long do you think Samsung with support the current Galaxy S platform? Or is this Galaxy K going to replace the Galaxy S phone and Samsung will drop support for the Galaxy S? Will we even get 3.0? Samsung promised 2.2 by the end of the year but never said anything about 3.0. Anyone?
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Just read about Galaxy K. It's a lower spec than S series but with 2.2.
Samsung can't promise 3.0 because nobody has seen it. No manufacture has promised 3.0 yet. There are rumors about 3.0 requirement and if it's true Galaxy S satisfies it.
If Samsung can't deliver 3.0, I'm sure the dev team will. That's why I have bought Epic over Transform.

WE GET 2.2 in NOV!!!!

Says all carriers get it in nov. no dont start trolling as saying its false. Sammy released a press statement saying it. http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/samsung-comes-clean-with-galaxy-s-froyo-upgrade-dates-all-carri/

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The Android 2.2 software is being fully tested with UK operators and the upgrade will be available in the UK from early November. We expect all operator versions of the software to be fully tested and downloadable by the end of November.
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In case you missed it... Samsung Vibrant is sold with T-Mobile in the US. We aren't part of the UK, and T-Mobile US is not among "all operators" operating in the UK.
Reading comprehension...

Saiboogu said:
In case you missed it... Samsung Vibrant is sold with T-Mobile in the US. We aren't part of the UK, and T-Mobile US is not among "all operators" operating in the UK.
Reading comprehension...
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It says all operators. Does not just mean the uk or it would have said the uk.

blader3759 said:
It says all operators. Does not just mean the uk or it would have said the uk.
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Samsung will not be announcing Froyo for US devices via their Samsung UK press office.

i9000 is the only galaxy s in the uk, no? which would makes sense that it would be early nov for them in the uk, then all operators (everywhere) by end of nov.
edit: actually reading the press release makes it seem more dubious that they would mean all operators internationally

I'm with the OP.
The Android 2.2 software is being fully tested with UK operators and the upgrade will be available in the UK from early November. We expect all operator versions of the software to be fully tested and downloadable by the end of November.
Even if you didnt know anything about the topic, you can easily understand operators=carriers and by them specifying UK Operators I think that pretty much makes it easy to understand. Why hate anyway, for those waiting for OTA and Source code it's better news than nothing.

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edit: actually reading the press release makes it seem more dubious that they would mean all operators internationally
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Yeah. Once you actually read the release (doesn't sound like Engadget did) it seems kinda clear.
Its about perspective.. If Samsung issued a press release out of Korea or their US headquarters that said "all operators" would have the update by X date, then it would cover the US. But when Samsung UK issues that statement.. There's no reason to think it would apply to America.

There have been many misleading posts where naive readers read announcements about the "galaxy S" in Europe and wrongly apply that to the U.S. variants. This is another unfortunate example.
Engadget, reinforcing my low expectations of its shoddy journalism, also fell for the same error today. Their story says "presumably including the Vibrant, Captivate, Epic 4G, and Fascinate) by the end of November." Presumably? What a joke. All they have to do is call Samsung for confirmation.
The Engadget writer, Chris Ziegler, is particularly brain-dead. He authored several "articles" about the GPS problems on the Galaxy S phones and never got anything right.

Saiboogu said:
Yeah. Once you actually read the release (doesn't sound like Engadget did) it seems kinda clear.
Its about perspective.. If Samsung issued a press release out of Korea or their US headquarters that said "all operators" would have the update by X date, then it would cover the US. But when Samsung UK issues that statement.. There's no reason to think it would apply to America.
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Hopefully some clarification comes at minimum to put this thread to rest. When Google and Apple announce devices on US soil, they also usually give the release dates for all the Int'l carriers too. So why is this different. I guess we'll find out. Either way, its a good thing.

techboydino said:
Hopefully some clarification comes at minimum to put this thread to rest. When Google and Apple announce devices on US soil, they also usually give the release dates for all the Int'l carriers too. So why is this different. I guess we'll find out. Either way, its a good thing.
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Google and Apple are US companies, so when they make an announcement in the US, it's from "headquarters." But if they were going to announce a product intended for Japan, for instance, they wouldn't do it in the UK.
That's why Samsung (Korea) making an announcement in the UK regarding US products makes no sense.

It will get here when it gets here. We don't need 50 threads about it. I'm more inclined to believe the UK statement is a UK statement. When it comes out of T-Mobile then I'll believe the timeframe.

Blahh,blahh,blahh......and more blahh blahh blahhhhhhh......

agreed that the article makes it sound like US galaxy's/Vibrants, but i think they mean/or are mistaken that it is european galaxy's and not Vibrant....
---poorly written article

reading.......... what a concept
Is it me or do most of the "Froyo is coming" shouter really do not understand word and sentence structure? (sorry for posting as a question)

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Is it me or do most of the "Froyo is coming" shouter really do not understand word and sentence structure? (sorry for posting as a question)
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No, it's not just you.
They all think they have the definitive info and shout it as loud as they can and have all been wrong every time, so far.
It's like they trying to be important, rather than just passing along information.
If the OP made the title, "Here's a 2.2 Article, what does this mean?" this OP wouldn't look so bad, but that wouldn't give him the feeling of being as important.

Just flash eugene's new froyo rom if you're so desperate It works great with the exception of minor issues and you'll be able to finally download that shiny new Gmail app and use the wonderful Voice Commands and you're good to go.

BTW, Samsung's galaxy S support site for the U.S. on Twitter is still saying there is no ETA for Froyo on this side of the pond.

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BTW, Samsung's galaxy S support site for the U.S. on Twitter is still saying there is no ETA for Froyo on this side of the pond.
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Where did you see it say that? I read this:
"Hi Orlando! I do not have an ETA for Froyo yet, but I will keep you posted here on Twitter. ^Sab"

Master™ said:
Where did you see it say that? I read this:
"Hi Orlando! I do not have an ETA for Froyo yet, but I will keep you posted here on Twitter. ^Sab"
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That Twitter site is dedicated to Galaxy S support in the United States, which is what I meant by "this side of the pond." (The Samsung USA rep was responding to a question about Froyo here on Vibrant, and confirmed in the previous tweet that it was rolling out overseas.)

If Samsung dangles another carrot in front of me about Froyo on my Vibrant, I'm going to set their Korean building on fire.
I believe they have my Froyo!

Froyo release date all but confirmed...

Froyo- November. http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/...carri/?utm_source=engadget&utm_medium=twitter
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great find! I'm willing to wait as long as they make it better. I have to wait anyway since I'm rooted so "early November" may not hold true. Hopefully rooted roms won't be too far behind.

not sure why it is taking so long since Verizon will have the Samsung Continuum next week which is already running 2.2 stock. or, at least thats what has been leaked.

Continuum is running 2.1....
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-continuum-video-hands

I don't mean to be a killjoy, but I would like to point out that the way this press release is worded, I believe it ONLY applies to the I9000 model, which is the European Galaxy S. One reason I think that is because it states it will be available via Kies, which is not used for OTA distribution for the US versions. Also, every US version has unique features that have to be accounted for in developing the release.
Now, I'm not saying that we won't get Froyo in November, just that this press release from Samgung proves nothing in that regard. Due to carrier customizations, I'm waiting for a press release either directly from Verizon, or from Samsung that specifically mentions Verizon and/or the Fascinate by name.
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The press release was misleading...
h t t p://w w w.androidpolice.com/2010/10/21/samsung-promises-froyo-update-for-all-galaxy-s-versions-in-november/
UK only in November
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Yeah no one can really come away from that with any facts. Just opinions. I mean they do state it will be Coming to all variants of the galaxy s. The problem is the use phrases like "we expect it to be to all carriers by the end of November" not "it will be to all carriers by........" so that's a little suspect. Like I said in my last thread ill ever write about froyo for this phone, its sad that they put some of the most potent hardware ever made with the ****tiest software ever and the normal lackluster Samsung amount of support. Due to the support I will not buy another Samsung phone. I can't remember exact dates I've had all of the last 5 major VZW phones they released on launch day.(D,DInc,DC, D2, and now fascinate) this phone came out almost a month after the D2 launched with froyo? If the Galaxy S is Samsung's flagship what were they doing with all this extra time they took to launch it after all of the other galaxy s phones. Again camera is great, camcorder is awesome screen is amazing, GPU is the absolutely best available in a mobile device, and the use RFS and this bull**** software and the topped it off with almost a year old software in eclair? Wtf. Ill be keeping this until LTE comes out. Praying that one of the first LTE phones that comes out isn't Samsung BC then ill be waiting long. Anyway. Rant off. Here's to hoping and praying we actually see froyo sometime, if anytime on our phones.
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keith.mcintyre26 said:
Froyo- November. http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/...carri/?utm_source=engadget&utm_medium=twitter
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I can't believe anyone still believes this yarn today. The Engadget story was debunked all over the internet yesterday, for example in this thread on the XDA Vibrant forum.
Basically, Engadget was wrong. Again.
The press release they based that on clearly came from the Samsung subsidiary in the UK and Ireland. The announcement's scope was for "all operators" there. None of it applies to the U.S. carriers. The Twitter sites for Samsung USA confirmed later yesterday that the UK announcement did not apply here, and reiterated what Samsung USA has said all along: Froyo will be deployed in the U.S. sometime this year.
Engadget is irresponsible, a day an a half later, for not correcting the erroneous story.