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I am just about to purchase a new PDA. I am deciding between the Wizard (o2 xda mini s) and Universal (o2 xda exec).
The universal seems to have everything I want, but I am scared by the posts here.
So I have one basic question for you guys:
Do you think:
1. There are basic hardware problems which can't be resolved until there is a new version
2. It is just a buggy software/firmware issue, and this will be fixed by the current and future firmware upgrades ?
If it is 2, I will not mind buying it ?
thx
Only a personal viewpoint, but my view is that most of the problems are being caused by software that claims to support WM5.0 - but the reality is that although they do support it, not all software is as robust as it should be. I have installed and uninstalled a whole range of applications (purchased and trial versions) - and found that many cause lock-ups etc. After trial and error I have settled on a PIM (Pocket Informant) and a closer/launcher (GSPocketMagic) that work reliably, do not cause my Universal to lock up and do not seem to have any effect on system speed. Others I have tried may cause lock-ups or at least really slow the system performance down significantly. Not sure if others have found the same - just what I have found by trial and error. Hope it helps
that is a very interesting point. I was very influenced by this article:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35177
Also it seems if you read aximsite re: dell x51v, that Wm5 is not as compatable with wm2003se software as people think.
What also seems to be adding to the issues is that the service providers (o2, orange, etc.) are NOT aware of this and are installing applications as standard (e.g. battery meter) which actually cause lags in answering phone calls as they are not correctly for Wm5.
I guess the question is now, does the jasajr work fine when all bad the sowftare is uninstalled, and is it possible to uninstall monitoring software that service providers have installed ?
I just bought mine on Monday... great piece of kit!
If you are just going to use the software that came with it you shouldn't have any problems at all (i haven't anyway) all is working well.
I think as soon as WM2005 becomes more established and more developers cater for it the glitches will go, like NH said, it's more 3rd party software that's causing the problems
hey budo, which service provider did you buy from ?
how is surfing the internet using 3g (the real reason I want to buy it, as I will keep my normal mobile for phone calls)
rgds
My position is clear. WM5 itself has bugs and does things you don't expect. Here are just four examples of WM5 probelms which are nothing to do with third-party apps:
- If the Camera app is left on it heats-up the devices as it drains the battery
- On downloading email over GPRS/3G the Messaging app can freeze
- Media stored on the SD card when used by apps when the "suspend" option is used can cause the app to fail when you re-start your device
- WM5 can report it has insufficient memory even when it has 20MB of RAM free
- Memory leakage means you need to reset the device daily
- If you do reset it is possible to loose settings and data if this data has not been written back to the persistent storage from the real RAM
O2, and they give you 3 options for "install type" so if you want all the bells and whistles you can switch it on, or if you want just the basic software you can switch that on lol...
I have to sort my internet out for 3G, needs to be config for some reason.... but from what i have seen from GPRS it's top dog esp with sites that cater for mobile internet....
this is not good jah, i am put off again. although this could be fixed with a firmware update if htc provide that kind of thing. Anyone know their record on this for other devices ?
hey budo. If 3g is turned on, it should use it automatically for connection, even if it says gprs. that is normally how all my 3g phones have worked when 'bluetoothed' with a pda.
Colonel
I assume you have seen this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33871
I am not trying to put you off but just want to make sure you have a balanced perspective. I have an Exec and all I can say is that it is "high maintenance" like all M$ based systems
thanks, i'll read.
I'm not sure I totaly agree with you about M$ stuff. I had a dell x50v and currently have an orange m500, and they are perfectly reliable and low mainentance. It does seem however that the hardware people have rushed out wm5 systems without really doing their research and I am sure M$ is responsible for a load of bugs. Roll on WM5se ......
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hey budo, which service provider did you buy from ?
how is surfing the internet using 3g (the real reason I want to buy it, as I will keep my normal mobile for phone calls)
rgds
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Sux. This pixel doubling issue means that you don;t get anywhwere near the estate you expected. U can switch to Oz VGA but that costs a 5 min reset either way - easier to get to a PC! The other issue is that the IE browser is SO bad that 3G surfing feels like GPRS - in fact I used to fire up my laptop just to check that I had a good 3G signal in the area and was indeed surfing on UMTS!! Issue is that browser renders slowly, and cache's so badly that it actually reloads the whole friggin page when u go 'back'. I could have my laptop working on a 3G card right alongside my JJ on 3G, type in xda-developers and press 'go', and my laptop would give me the screen in seconds, whilst my JJ would take a full minute!! We're taking over 10x slower. Also, many sites do not render in PIE - blank drop boxes etc. In SA that's movie booking gone, not a SINGLE TV guide site works, and altho my private bank works, my company bank does not. However, terminal services in VGA is awesome...
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I don't really have problem with 3G and PIE. I use T-mobile and o2 in the UK and the rendering etc is reasonable given that I did not expect laptop like performance on my Exec. The Exec in corp mode with GSPMagic+ is very quick.
Hi
Allow me to vent. I am not a very satisfied customer. I am having a lot of problems with this device. the most irritating being the battery life as well as 3g function. After reading up about the battery life problem I installed juicedefender. Not a bad app for what its worth, only if it worked correctly. Ever since I installed it, it has been causing issues with the APN which is apparently a known problem. The APN does not turn on fully? I have now uninstalled it but its causing intermitent internet connection problems still, cant seem to figure that one out.
Anyways, I can see the 3G and H icons on the top bar showing activity, but nothing seems to work. I can't browse, no other applications really picking up any data at all. I have loads of apps that need to be connected all the time.
Anyone have any ideas on how to deal with these issues? I am really getting annoyed now. I tried out a mate's desire, it seems so much better and faster.
There are lots of other issues I am facing but I wanted to keep this thread focused on the most troubling issue, the 3g connectivity.
Please respond with suggestions.
Re: Xepria X10: 3G APN not working but showing 3G on the top bar..
I would start with a factory reset. Failing that, reflash with SEUS.
Hi -Which network are you on? try deleting the APN and re-setup the internet settings.
reluctant to do a factory reset. Got too much stuff on there. I have switched to 2g and its working so far, but not ideal obviously. I am stuff with 2g and a battery life that doesnt last 7 hours. I am not pleased at all.
I am on t-mobile UK
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reluctant to do a factory reset. Got too much stuff on there. I have switched to 2g and its working so far, but not ideal obviously. I am stuff with 2g and a battery life that doesnt last 7 hours. I am not pleased at all.
I am on t-mobile UK
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Reluctant or not I would do it, looks like juicedefender screwed something up, or you have a hardware issue like a bad antenna. When your phone battery drops below 15% and the phone prompts you click "why?" and let us know what the results are. I have been using my phone all day today for the past 14 hours and have 45% battery left not using any juice defender (which I think messes with Android)
Delete the A P N
Did you try deleting the Apn's and re creating them? it's really easy to do and won't lose any of your other data or config off the phone.
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Occasionally I have this same issue. However it only started happening after I debranded my handset and upgraded from 1.4 to 1.6. I have not installed juice defender whilst being on 1.6.
I did have to recreate my APN's but my data connection started working immediately afterwards. I've noticed that it drops every now and again without warning. When the connection has dropped i still have the 3g\H symbol.
I am on o2 in the UK and had the same issue after using juice defender, basically it changes your APN by inserting it's own APN text. Even after uninstalling the app it doesn't delete it's settings.
All you need to do is recreate your APN settings, I am sure you can get them off the T-mobile website.
does anyone got the APN setting for T-Mobile (USA). my phone doesn't show any data signal.
Thanks.
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Hi
Allow me to vent. I am not a very satisfied customer. I am having a lot of problems with this device. the most irritating being the battery life as well as 3g function. After reading up about the battery life problem I installed juicedefender. Not a bad app for what its worth, only if it worked correctly. Ever since I installed it, it has been causing issues with the APN which is apparently a known problem. The APN does not turn on fully? I have now uninstalled it but its causing intermitent internet connection problems still, cant seem to figure that one out.
Anyways, I can see the 3G and H icons on the top bar showing activity, but nothing seems to work. I can't browse, no other applications really picking up any data at all. I have loads of apps that need to be connected all the time.
Anyone have any ideas on how to deal with these issues? I am really getting annoyed now. I tried out a mate's desire, it seems so much better and faster.
There are lots of other issues I am facing but I wanted to keep this thread focused on the most troubling issue, the 3g connectivity.
Please respond with suggestions.
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Found your problem.
iead1, if you had read my post correctly, I uninstalled the app as it was causing the issue. The 3G stopped working altogether after the uninstall. Had to delete the APN and recreate it with the same settings. That fixed the problem.
Re: Xepria X10: 3G APN
Had the same problem. Juicedefender edited my apn to juicedefender.live.vodafone.com and because of that no internet access. I just deleted juicedefender and reset my apn to get it working again
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Re: Xepria X10 video calling
How can I able to do video call in x10?.
I have a 3g card and its working.
please suggest
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mspl said:
How can I able to do video call in x10?.
I have a 3g card and its working.
please suggest
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? Wrong topic?
The X10 can't do traditional video calling. It doesn't have a front facing camera.
Peace All,
Has anyone been having problems w/ their 4G service wherein it hangs (on loading) a site that is heavily ladened w/ FLASH (not to be confused w/ the current Gtalk and market issues)? I've tried the plug-in selections of "ON DEMAND" and even "ALWAYS" and it seems that it takes my 4G almost 3 -4 minutes (if it even loads) just to download the site fully---my 3G is actually faster . I've ran speed tests and when i'm on 4G i"m pulling 4.63 mbps down and about 1.00 mbps up---I've even checked to see if my RSA keys were intact and they were. The people (customer service) seem oblivious to this problem. Is there a fix for this?
thanks in advance for anyone's insight to this problem
-ZDK-
I don't know, I'll check mine tomorrow when I'm in a 4g area.
Problem with customer service is, they don't have a clue with anything network related. All they do is check to see how many problems similar to what a person reports as a problem and then make a note of it.
No problems with flash on 4g.
FYI - I am running AVO v9 and Flash Fix 10 so I can watch Hulu, and it worked great.
Peace,
Well i guess I'm the only one---this has happened on every ROM I've tried (Ava9 and Myn's Rsl2)---I've called Sprint and I've ran various tests to check my 4G and my RSA keys are in tact and my MAC address is cool---I also have the latest radio, prl, pri and wimax versions---I'm going back to stock---theming and custom ROM's are too much of a hassle and not worth it (most people on here appear to be sooo OBSESSED about battery life that they turn off every function of the phone so that they can brag that they havent charged in 8 days ). I use my phone to the fullest and like running 4G--since im in a 4G saturated area---all day
Thanks anyway,
-ZDK-
use flash on demand, that speeds up all your site loadings, make the browser more stable, and removes ads, unless you like ads, .
For me flash site works perfect on 4G...
only issues i have on 4g are pc related, whether im tethered or using hotspot, if the 4g dips just a little the flash video stops loading, when i get to that part the players just hang at what ever the buffer says which is usually 45% to 51% and i have to refresh and jump to the place it stopped, the overall 4g connection is very stable, i have no clue whats going on
btw would you happen to be using dolphin browser hd?? there have been a lot of comments about browser slowdown with froyo and the site has a few suggestions to help speed it up
I've actually got the exact same problem as the OP. I recently did some modifications to the wimax settings so 4g would connect faster and stay connected longer and wonder if that may have something to do with it. Otherwise I do not know what might have changed.
Is there a Data Counter on the HTC Desire HD?
If not, what can be downloaded to view how much 3G data I used and if it works for sms and phone calls too, that will be great.
Thanks
Download call meter ng
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3g watchdog does it well.. get it from the market for free
I use network monitor pro.
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I used to use 3G Watchdog but it hit the battery too much.
I now use 'Data Counter Widget'.
Excellent at providing BOTH 3G & WiFi data daily, weekly, monthly, & Total.
net counter is also very good, it splits usage between wifi and 3g, and doesn't really use battery.. doesn't do the call stats though.. but call meter ng does that very well..
does call meter ng split the data usage of 3G and wifi ?
as i need to monitor the 3G data basically to know how much data I have remaining from my month's limit which is 2GB
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does call meter ng split the data usage of 3G and wifi ?
as i need to monitor the 3G data basically to know how much data I have remaining from my month's limit which is 2GB
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Data Widget Counter
wifi split 3G
Hi,
I have another question,
how do you know which applications are running in the background?
Is there an inbuilt app in the desire hd or do you have to download one from the market?
Thanks again
Beards said:
I used to use 3G Watchdog but it hit the battery too much.
I now use 'Data Counter Widget'.
Excellent at providing BOTH 3G & WiFi data daily, weekly, monthly, & Total.
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3G watchdog hit the battery too much? Did you check using phone settings > About phone > Battery usage - which % did you get exactly (and incidentally, with which 3GW refresh frequency)?
Phone usage is superb plus you can add your used data and it monitors calls and texts
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3G watchdog hit the battery too much? Did you check using phone settings > About phone > Battery usage - which % did you get exactly (and incidentally, with which 3GW refresh frequency)?
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I used (and still do for all other Apps) 'SystemPanel' which gives very precise data.
Unfortunately I can not remember the figures..... but I think it used to update something like every 2hrs which used to use something around 5 to 10% of the battery during the night when the phone was not operating.
'Data Counter Widget' on the other hand uses Nil battery %.
Hey guys, ive been tethering for awhile now, and had no problems, just really noticed this after my second month of service.
But, when tethering, HTML web browsing is pretty slow, and my Network Meter widget on my computer says im loading webpages at only 25 -30 KB/s but when i download a torrent/file or anything else (even streaming youtube) my dl speeds go up to 130-208 kB/s. So i thought it was IE9 but then when connected to an actual wifi access point, i experience so issues. Also, i downloaded Google Chrome and the same thing happens. Secondly, when im skyping or oovooing, it will randomly disconnect and hang me up, but yet the icon on my phone says that im still connected to data and everything is fine.
Question is this: Do you think the issue resides in my laptop, phone, WiFi tether app, or T-Mobile network?
I must add both the speedtest app and website (ran from computer) yeild the same speeds. Im completly stumped as to why its like this, im putting my money on the tethering app, but at times when i get kicked off skype and it says i have no internet connection, i try loading a webpage on my phone and it takes a bit longer. (Its really hard to say) but i really need ideas as to where i can start diagnosing and eliminating things.
AS USUAL THANKS GUYS
Are you on Magldr? If so, can you test it with cLK? I'm tethering wired and wireless with cLK and it had been pretty fast- the only time I see a lag in losing any page is if the site is a known, slow one (like the Indian Railways reservations site!)...
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Are you on Magldr? If so, can you test it with cLK? I'm tethering wired and wireless with cLK and it had been pretty fast- the only time I see a lag in losing any page is if the site is a known, slow one (like the Indian Railways reservations site!)...
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Im on CLk, i dont like MAGLDR because i have the red key digitizer error. Where the touch screen becomes unresponsive when you use the end key. I might tear it apart and try to fix it someday. But a thought just came across, could T-Mobile somehow know im tethering and throttle me then?
Ah! You didn't mention TMo (am on XDA app, can't see it even of you have added it to your profile!)
It's very much a possibility- other TMo users, can you check this one out?
And how do you tether- wifi or wired? Built-in or an app? I use built-in for wireless and the wired tether app. The app shows the speeds in realtime, try it if you already haven't...
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Ah! You didn't mention TMo (am on XDA app, can't see it even of you have added it to your profile!)
It's very much a possibility- other TMo users, can you check this one out?
And how do you tether- wifi or wired? Built-in or an app? I use built-in for wireless and the wired tether app. The app shows the speeds in realtime, try it if you already haven't...
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Haha sorry man! Wasnt sure if it mattered. But i have a feeling its my phone, as something strange happened just a few minutes ago, i was tethering, and i lost connection, so i enabled Airplane mode, then disabled it, and it said 3 bars of service no matter where i was.. it was like the radio got stuck/froze or something. Im gonna flash another radio just to check it out. Also, i use the WiFi tether for root users app which actualy uses built in wifi tethering. But i cant really see the speeds as my phone only gets 3g on my window sill xD and i use VNC viewer to control my phone from my computer. And the tether app uses the wifi port to monitor speeds, so it goes way high when im controlling my phone with VNC from my computer so its hard to say. Im more convinced its the phone :/ but just dont know what.
I think ive narrowed it down, after changing ROM, RADIO, kernel, location, only one thing made a difference, and that was location. I think the connection is unstable because there are no bars showing, just shows the H and that its connected, so i think its just that my signal is horrible, wont know till i get my SGS2, if i get it. :/ my HD2 sucks with signal, can a bad SIM cause this?
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I think ive narrowed it down, after changing ROM, RADIO, kernel, location, only one thing made a difference, and that was location. I think the connection is unstable because there are no bars showing, just shows the H and that its connected, so i think its just that my signal is horrible, wont know till i get my SGS2, if i get it. :/ my HD2 sucks with signal, can a bad SIM cause this?
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Have you ever dropped your HD2, even if it was not a major fall?
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Have you ever dropped your HD2, even if it was not a major fall?
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I have soldered the two tabs to the atenna using 24 gauge wire, i sure as heck hope that didnt come apart xP
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I have soldered the two tabs to the atenna using 24 gauge wire, i sure as heck hope that didnt come apart xP
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Couldn't help but smile at that one
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Couldn't help but smile at that one
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bahaha i have to do it to the wifi antenna as well. but the wires are still connected, i dont understand what could be causing my horrible service, unless the HD2 is that bad?? i plan on buying an SGH - T989 but i dont know yet....
Are you sure your place has a good signal, and its just the HD2 that is not picking up? Try with another phone. I used to have black-spots in my home a long while back, and used some app for Symbian for my E72 to check the signal strength at various places within the house as well as the cellular towers that is available for me - maybe something like that is available for Android (should be available for sure, is Symbian has it Android will have a million alternative!).
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Are you sure your place has a good signal, and its just the HD2 that is not picking up? Try with another phone. I used to have black-spots in my home a long while back, and used some app for Symbian for my E72 to check the signal strength at various places within the house as well as the cellular towers that is available for me - maybe something like that is available for Android (should be available for sure, is Symbian has it Android will have a million alternative!).
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Well i tried with my Sprint Touch Pro 2, and it got really good edge signal (doesnt support 3g on tmo) but when id put my hands around it it would loose service, but in general, it was much better then the HD2. and actually, we went to see a circus, and inside the stadium, HD2 had no service, but Touch Pro 2 had full bars... so im guessing its the HD2. :/