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[POLL] Is your 3G worse after updating with new radio?

Just a simple poll to see how many people have worse 3G stability after the radio update. Personally, it's really bad for me.... I'll get about 5-10 mins of 3G (4 bars) access before it decides not to work in any app. To use data, I have to switch over to Edge which works 100% of the time.

I still get the same 3G as far as I have noticed, but I'm seeing some strange data rates: just tested at 903 down and 789 up. I've had more than a few of these results, even some where the up speed is higher than the down. All since the new radio. App I'm using is speedtest.net FWIW.

Hmmm... I did notice my 3G is faster but so much less stable. I still can't access the 3G since I started the topic. Hopefully someone else from Oklahoma sees this thread... maybe it's just my area.
I can get on EDGE all I want... I just can't do 3G, regardless of the fact I have 4 bars of it. It just pings the server every 5 secs and gets nothing in return, almost like the server is either refusing it or not there. I wonder if I have a bad APN?
I'm using the stock 2.1 rom+update from the other day... I installed a small superuser+highmem hack from modaco just to root it. No other mods/themes have been installed.

I believe the bars are just relating to standard voice connection status not the quality of your 3G. I could be wrong though. I think you can have a great voice conn and shoddy 3G and vice versa.

In Chicago and I have the same issue. I had no 3G problems before the update and now my phone constantly switches between 3G/Edge/no service.
My battery life is also very very poor now due to this.
Not very happy. Half the time I get no 3G at all now whereas before I had 4 bars almost everywhere.

Those that are having problems,
Settings | wireless & networks | mobile networks| network operators | Select your network.
verify if your troubles continue.

bofslime said:
Those that are having problems,
Settings | wireless & networks | mobile networks| network operators | Select your network.
verify if your troubles continue.
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Still having the problem... but after selecting T-Mobile, it now is showing the "upload" as solid instead of pinging every 5 secs... but I still get nothing downstream.

I play HomeRunBattle3D a lot and it constantly gets a weak connection or drops me out of the game.
At work I have 3G in only 1/2 the office now...
I flashed it to help but it def makes it worse for me.
I just applied the fix from above and will check back here after a few days...
I flashed this and I am using CM5 beta4 not sure if the E79 update has something else in the software as I dont think CM5 is using the OTA fixes yet so maybe the problem is there?

mine is difinately worse as well. Also after choosing tmobile network I think it made it even worse again. I assume this is similar to the problems others were having with the old radio when mine was fine. I was just hoping to maybe get some better reception with the new radio because that was lacking a bit.
now in my office where I used to get 3 bars 3g my phone is sitting here with 2-3 bars Edge. hmmm...I must admit though that it is browsing much faster on Edge than it was before...? Possible the roms are reading the radio incorrectly?
I used the phone on ATT edge before switching to tmobile and I was impressed by how fast even browsing was on ATT edge especially when Tmobile 3g didn't feel too much faster after I switched over. Tmobile edge was also dog slow. now Edge seems to have sped up a good bit....I might try flashing the stock rom for now and see how that does with the new radio.

Looks like those that are having issues are not running the stock rom (but have the new radio flashed). I'd be willing to bet switching back 100% stock (2.1 update-1)would resolve the issue.

bofslime said:
Looks like those that are having issues are not running the stock rom (but have the new radio flashed). I'd be willing to bet switching back 100% stock (2.1 update-1)would resolve the issue.
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I'm running stock.

Just to update everyone... I've had a good solid 3G connection for the past hour or so... with no hiccups.
*crosses fingers*
I'm beginning to think this is an issue on T-Mobile's end...
EDIT: Nevermind... there it went again.

SANTilt said:
I still get the same 3G as far as I have noticed, but I'm seeing some strange data rates: just tested at 903 down and 789 up. I've had more than a few of these results, even some where the up speed is higher than the down. All since the new radio. App I'm using is speedtest.net FWIW.
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I have not yet received the OTA update and I am seeing similarly large upload numbers today as well (it just started happening as of this morning). This is in the SF Bay Area. I'd be willing to be that they are more due to network upgrades than any changes in the 3G radio.

I'm on stock N1 bought on launch date. I had fine 3G before update and fine 3G after update. I would say I'm in 3G 99% of time. It even goes into HSDPA when I begin to surf and and when pages are done loading its back to UMTS..I've maybe only seen Edge once or twice since I've got my phone. I'm on Tmobile in Louisville .

It's been about the same pre/post update. It's rock solid 3-4 bars 3G w/HSPA most places, but bouncing between 3 bars of EDGE and 4 bars of 3G, with it usually being 2 bars of 3G at home. Before updating, it might have received one less bar everywhere.
3G seems to be around -100db, while 2G is around -70. Plus or minus 10db.

mine stayed the same, almost no 3G almost always edge, but now my GPS does not work.

Nexus on vodafone spain
I just had a single annoying problem related with 3G BEFORE the update...
And after the update...gues what?
It´s more of the SAME:
-Everytime I receive or make a CALL...my 3G connection switch to GPRS and doesn´t recover unless I change over Airplane Mode.
Please...tell me that I´m the only one

3G was fine before the update, and now rarely works, and takes a long time to start when it does.

Im in San Antonio TX and before update, my 3g would go to edge every now and again. Not too big of a deal really. But after my update (I did the OTA manually thanks to the forums! ) I get 3g constantly and have yet to see the edge pop up.

My connection is definitely much less stable. I now strugle to load pages when I have a 3g icon and at least 2 bars of signal. Before the update I had no trouble loading pages even with a really weak signal. Something is definitely ****ed with this half baked update.
I also posted athread on google support forums, please contribute your findings there as that i the only place where google can actually see feedback.
Here is the link to the thread:
http://www.google.com/support/forum...3c&hl=en&fid=7b75b3f3af2ac53c00047ee0be368e98

[Q] Data only stays on 3G and never 4G for the past couple days...Any reason why?

So i have been flashing a few roms recently and stayed with NB60 for 2 days now... on my second day I only got 3G speeds and was finding drop in my network more.
I flashed another rom and still I am getting only 3G and never 4G even when i try going to use to internet or the market or anything that requires data.
I remember on most roms that it would bounce from 3G to 4G when it was needed... and now I dont even get that.
Any reason why this might be happening? I mean I was running 2.3.4 and then now my new rom I flashed has 2.3.4 also and do u think it might be because of that?
Any help would be great.

First of all go check what type of network your connected to as it will show you, as H don't mean its 4G. Now I know you know that not all time you will get speed as time, place depend on the load of the network. Where I get H always I do see Edge/3G time to time so it depends.
Now you can flash the new radio we have by placing it on your SDCard and renaming it to PD15ING.zip and rebooting in to bootloader. Radio is user select based and you may improve your signal where it maybe useless to me. If you have HSDPA/HSPA+ in your area you can test it and connect via WCDMA only and see if it works. To save battery no one stays on 4G as it will kill it faster.

Yeah I totally understand when u mean no one stays on 4G or Hspa all the time. The only reason why it was concerning me was that my wife has her phone which is not rooted and mine that is... and she has her phone being totally fine with getting H or 4G.
Idk if i want to try a new radio just because idk if its safe or not... im sure it is but idk if im ready to do that
But I will test out my area like how u recommended by connecting via WCDMA only.
thanks for the tips.

Perfectly understandable, but did you hear when iPhone4 first hit and the whole grip drop signal problem? lol what I am getting here is later we discovered AT&T was actually fabricating signal which was inaccurate to boost their failed network. I never trust the stock icons to begin with did you at least run few decent speed tests so you can at least compare? With WCDMA only my connection improved by alot specially the upload, I was surprised. As I have BellSouth ADSL and max we get is 512kbps (54kB/s) max. Where here I was pushing 180kB/s+ best advice for you is download speed test and compare it same time side by side of your wife against yourself first and then go from there.

yeah... my wifi is working perfectly. but my 3g/4g is just real bad. it says my network is with Tmobile. and everything seems fine... but idk... its hard going on the app store, it takes a long time doing a search on google (and sometimes i have to reload it like 3 times to find a search), and just overall slow network.
I have no clue what to do or why all of a sudden this happend.

When I meant network type I meant what are you using ATM? UMTS? HSDPA? HSPA? you can check under network type it will tell you. Try WCDMA only but the issue is if you don't have strong signal places where you have EDGE you can't use data anymore.

ok so check it.... before i read ur last post i changed my rom to the leaked sense rom by faux. and I got my 4G status back.
that being said... I was using the 2.0 royal ginger right before i flashed this one. But I dont know why the NB61 rom or the royal ginger were acting weird with me... is it bc of 2.3.4? ill check out what u told me later tonight i suppose. once again. thanks alot.

I myself is having hell of issues ATM with AOSP2.3.4(CM7NB60+) so could be another factor.

Ok so I think i got it back to 4G status when i need it now lol.
Basically I flashed the leaked sense rom from faux.... played with that for little. then later I went back to the 2.0 Royal glaciar.... and NOW everything is working again.
So i dont know what happend before but now Im good to go and everything is perfect again.
thanks again for the help tho TmpUsr

Crazy crazy 3g...help me.

On my s2 when using 3g full bars I get no activity no internet whatsoever, this has been an issue from day one, using stock rom o2 or custom roms. Anybody getting the same problem? And is there a solution?
Ps but as soon as it switches to H, it works fine.

I was working today and using as a hotspot, and I was in area where it was just 3G, with full bars, and could not get on the net.
This is a bit of grrrrr moment. HTC desire no problem at all.
Anybody have any ideas?

have you altered any system settings? Try the SiM card from your HTC Desire.
Finally, try hard reset.

not altered anything . I used my virgin sim on desire and s2(same sim)
And how to hard reset on this thing?
Thanks for caring.

Here are the problems sorted by number of individual posts in descending order:
1) Battery
2) Wi-Fi
3) GPS
4) Sound
5) Camera
6) Screen
7) 2G/3G
While the 2G/3G problems people are experiencing are no doubt real, the magnitude is relatively low. People who changed carriers or used SIM cards from other carriers seemed to have had their problems go away. I know this isn't what you wanted to here but, compared to some of the other problems, this isn't a widespread issue and appears to be carrier/locale specific.

That is NORMAL it means you are in good area where it supports 3.5G / H
so when you use data it uses 3.5G and not 3G. It reverts back to 3G when you are not using the internet. Nothing crazy. It is normal. Search next time.

dk206
You are missing the point, in,certain areas where there is NO 3G+, ONLY 3G I get no internet, is this NORMAL too? Read first.

with all respect to all seniors, that is not a simple issue, basically there is no solution till now, some people working on replacements others waiting for cooked roms, i have this issue since two weeks now and i can assure you that a lot have the same issue, more didn't find out yet because simply the issue is unstable data connection which prevent you from using VOIP & Wifi hotspot, when ever the connection is turning from H+ to 3G it drops, anyways some links below having same issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073958&page=8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074396&page=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088727
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066710
a lot of people in MEA have this issue as well.

Hassanalaa said:
with all respect to all seniors, that is not a simple issue, basically there is no solution till now, some people working on replacements others waiting for cooked roms, i have this issue since two weeks now and i can assure you that a lot have the same issue, more didn't find out yet because simply the issue is unstable data connection which prevent you from using VOIP & Wifi hotspot, when ever the connection is turning from H+ to 3G it drops, anyways some links below having same issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073958&page=8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074396&page=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088727
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066710
a lot of people in MEA have this issue as well.
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I just did some troubleshooting and found out using vodafon qatar sim solved the issue..on Qtel the problem persist.so for me i guess got to wait till SGS2 is launched in the middle east for samsung to update their firmware for carriers here.
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I'm in Poland, one carrier's PREpaid didn't work, then another carrier's POSTpaid worked flawlessly, so I got that working carrier's PREpaid and after working initially it stopped now. My question is: do you think the 3g loss might be prepaid/postpaid issue?
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I really doubt that it has to do with carriers, the phone's "3G" just doesnt work, it seems to want use HSDPA and up.
They really need to bring out a fix for this.
How long did they take to finally bring this phone out... Still no where near to getting it right. Shame, this could so easily be the best.

After being frustrated by no activity on 3G, I decided to try uskr's data fix. Although skeptical that it would fix anything, I tried it!
Amazingly enough, IT WORKED!
It really did, on one bar of pure 3G I get 0.3 down speed on speedtest on the phone and through hot spot.
The fix involves editing /system/build.prop
I add
ro.ril.enable.dtm=1
ro.ril.gprsclass=12
ro.ril.enable.3g.prefix=1
ro.ril.hsdpa.category=28
ro.ril.hsupa.category=9
ro.ril.hsxpa=3
To the bottom of the file using Root Explorer's text editor, on a rooted SG2.
Big ups to uskr

[Q] Connection issues

Ok so I have been searching for an answer to my issue for a few days but have had no luck. My wife and I both have an evo that we got at the same time. I rooted both using the same method and and we both have the cm7 Tom with the kernel it comes with.
For the past week she has been having connection issues. Sometimes when accessing the android market it says network connection error and other times it works fine. When accessing the internet it will sometimes not load the page and say that the site may be down. The has been happening a lot to her lately. When these things happen I try the same sites on my phone and they work fine. This is all done over a 3g connection. I have tried resetting the phone to factory and then redoing the rom and nothing helps.
Any suggestions?

I'm having the same issues as well. I've flashed a few different roms and my radios are up to date.

I had similar issues and found that by tweaking the Pri, Prl, and radio...can be found in dev section, that I was able to overcome... could just be a bad combo with that rom

VyperVainz, do you mind sharing what worked for you? I'm running synergy with the latest pri, nv and radio.

I think this is a network issue. My wife and I have been having both data and texting issues. She has a blackberry so not Evo isolated.
Sent from my Deck'd out Evo

Sprint's network has been pretty crappy lately. Slow speeds dropped loading pages, I don't think it's a rom issue
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It's an internet, non phone issue. :-D I often go betwen wifi and the normal connection to get a connection to the market.

Possible fix for data stalling issues some of us are having.

Right, a little back story.
I brought my SGS2 at the start of May in the UK on O2 so I have an early model which came with the firmware before KE1. I rooted in the first week and was flashing Villainrom 1.0 before too long with no data problems.
I think it was around KE2 with Lite'ning rom that I first saw my phone constantly switching between H & 3G and stalling when receiving or sending data. This behaviour has continued through all the firmwares I've tried with many different modems. I moved onto to Cognition when it was v1.01 and have been using it all the way unto 1.2 with the KG3 modem. Again still with data connecting problems.
Things I have tried -
Turning off fast dormacy
Editing the build.prop http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097612&highlight=build.prop pages 1-5
Switching off HSDPA/HSUPA via the *#301279# command
Disabling juice defender
Switching to WCDMA only
Changing modems
Full hard reset and reflasing of roms
Even with the above on multiple roms and rom versions my data connection was unreliable at best and killing spree warranting at its worst.
Possible fix-
What i found lurking on XDA on a slow day at work was the command below
*#2263#
This allows you to select which bands your phone uses. I selected option 2 then tested the 4 available bands. They all resulted in a complete loss of reception except WCDMA 2100. this is probably network specific you'll need to try it yourselves.
The results and current settings
Now when I try to use my data connection the phone no longer switches between H & 3G. It will start on 3G then find H and stay there, I see a slight delay if its been in deep sleep or JD has cut the connect but this is normal for the phone to start on 3G to save power.
Fast dormacy - off
build.prop -stock/unedited (I found this worked for me for a while but since 2.3.4 it didnt seem to help)
HSDPA/HSUPA via the *#301279# command - both on
Juice defender - on
WCDMA only selected as when picking a band it doesn't seem to like having a GSM band selected as well (happy to be corrected on that)
Modem KG3 -
Rom cog 1.2 - I'm patiently waiting 1.4 based on KG6 to test my findings.
Conclusion-
Okay it could be that selecting a band does F'all and that I'm seeing better results for a completely different reason. I'm not a developer so my fixing skills amount to playing with stuff I don't fully understand and seeing how more or less broke I've made it.
After thought -
Ive seen on the sensation forum they have discussed the wrong IMEI code being the cause of poor data speeds so I may look into that next.
Please share your experiences and anything else you've tried.

Ive seen on the sensation forum they have discussed the wrong IMEI code being the cause of poor data speeds so I may look into that next.
That should be no connection as IMEI belongs to phone and handshakes with network first .
KG6 modem some report as better .
jje

I will have to give this a try and see how it works, thanks for the share.

I am in the same boat, it is VERY frustrating to say the least. A typical scenario for me is: reading a web page on my S2 for a good few minutes (3g has gone to sleep mode by the time I have finished reading), I click on a link, 3g flashes, H comes up and flashes once.....wait.....wait.......wait......10 seconds later it decides to initiate a connection and take me where I want to go! It does the same thing with the XDA app. I have been onto O2 about this a couple of weeks ago, all they did was give me the settings over the phone (which were the exact same ones I already had) and they also sent me a replacement sim card, suffice to say, there is no change. Now I am convinced its a network problem of some sort, I have a three sim card which I have been trying out and the above problems do not exist anymore when using three, I click a link after 3g has gone to sleep and it goes from 3g to H and initialises the data transfer in one smooth motion. It looks like I'll be getting my PAC code and moving to Three!

would be interested to hear if switching to the 2100 band helps at all seeing as your on O2 as well

Mine is O2 via Giffgaff and no problems at all .
Tested KG6 modem Wi|Fi only and it is a stronger signal .
jje

Yeah, forgot to mention that, I have just enabled it. I can't test at the moment though coz there is no 3G coverage where I am. The only problem with enabling it is you will not be able to connect to GPRS or Edge if you need to. But it is worth testing regardless.

Just been out and about and tried that setting, didn't make much difference unfortunately

Maybe it was a combination of tweaks on my end. What rom & modem are you using?

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Maybe it was a combination of tweaks on my end. What rom & modem are you using?
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Villain 2.3 with KG3 modem. The problem has been the same whatever ROM I have used, I even flashed back to O2 stock a couple of weeks ago to see if it was a ROM problem, but that was the same. I can't remember what it was like when I first got the handset though, mine was the first batch as well.

JJEgan said:
Mine is O2 via Giffgaff and no problems at all .
Tested KG6 modem Wi|Fi only and it is a stronger signal .
jje
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The wife is on Giffgaff so I think I'll give that sim a try before I get my PAC off O2.

bentez2003 said:
Right, a little back story.
What i found lurking on XDA on a slow day at work was the command below
*#2263#
This allows you to select which bands your phone uses. I selected option 2 then tested the 4 available bands. They all resulted in a complete loss of reception except WCDMA 2100. this is probably network specific you'll need to try it yourselves.
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hi
i am just testing now this fix. i have an o2 phone and i did the same changes you did, disable fast dormancy, changed build.prop settings, will let you know after going a few times underground ;-)
gabrio

confirm, this is working, even when i go underground or when the signal goes away, it gets back to H/H+ and works, gabrio

Give it a little while, I think you'll be back saying it didn't work
Personally, I went ahead with my threat and moved over to 3uk, never looked back since with this problem, been perfect!

I've tried it all. Disabled fast dormancy, hspa, toyed with band selection, edited build.prop (btw, don't bother with it, the network settings you find on the web to type in don't work on the s2) you name it - but it would still cut out. Luckily, my phone is unlocked so I switched my provider and now it works like a charm with all the bells and whistles enabled. I can ride the tram all across warsaw and maybe have a handful of 2-3 second hiccups when I'm listening to online radio. Curiously enough, on my previous provider I've noted that there are some areas (like a busy mall - Arkadia) where it would not stall as well as a few other places, and most other areas that were notorious with data hanging. I'm convinced now that it is an issue on the telco side (*cough*Orange*cough*), and too bad because I was on a prepaid plan with them that for roughly $30 I had 7GB of transfer. I guess they figured they can promise the world on their trash network, because nobody would actually use it up. YMMV.

Had this issue with a UK GS2 purchased from Negri using it on AT&T.
Since upgrading to the latest UK firmware with 2.3.4 I have not had the issue going on about 2 weeks now!
Man was that issue annoying. Had to restart the phone sometimes to get data back.
Joe

Ok I did that too though how abt lag? Phone lags a bit opening large sms conversations and browsing home screens.. But peace. Yours too?
Gabrio
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