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I have Home++ I use the kill all feature on the rocket dock. it then says your free memory is 160mb. which am happy with, and then 5 - 10 minutes later, with my phone just being idle, i click on to see what apps are running and. i have about 15 apps running. from doing nothing.
Not sure why my apps run automatically, also when i turn on my phone, every single app turns on. WTF!!!
It's meant to. That is how android and linux works.
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duffy1807 said:
I have Home++ I use the kill all feature on the rocket dock. it then says your free memory is 160mb. which am happy with, and then 5 - 10 minutes later, with my phone just being idle, i click on to see what apps are running and. i have about 15 apps running. from doing nothing.
Not sure why my apps run automatically, also when i turn on my phone, every single app turns on. WTF!!!
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just let them run. stop killing them.
lifeflayer said:
just let them run. stop killing them.
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Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
duffy1807 said:
Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
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thats simply not the way it works, let them run, if the o/s sees there is another program that wants some ram it will clear some by killing lesser priority apps.
I stopped using task killers about 3 weeks ago. My phone runs much quicker now I've stopped killing everything... Let the tech do it's own thing and it works surprisingly well....
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duffy1807 said:
Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
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have you even tried to use the phone without a task manager? the apps in the background are in a frozen state, which means they are simply cached in the ram so when you restart them they open instantly AND retain the old state. there is absolutely no reason to kill an program unless the program bugged out.
mine runs ok i have this kind of apps called FSFILE EXPLORER in this apps wen i hit the menu you can see task manager then all previous apps that i open it highlighted into green color hit kill selected witch is highlighted then memory increase.... nothing is running on the idle.
unused ram is wasted ram
Ok guys will uninstall my task killer and see how i get on thanks
The advice of not killing aps doesn't really wash when you have apps that cause battery drain. I find that killing apps increases battery life.
alitech said:
The advice of not killing aps doesn't really wash when you have apps that cause battery drain. I find that killing apps increases battery life.
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get rid of those apps and get better ones
The apps are the stock apps that come with the firmware. You cant get rid of them mate.
The apps are the stock apps that come with the firmware. You cant get rid of them mate.
unused ram is wasted ram
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So using more ram doesn't use more battery? ;-)
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So using more ram doesn't use more battery? ;-)
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So when the X10 first got released, everyone was blaming Moxier for being a battery pig regardless if you were using it or not. Are we now saying that isn't true?
That's correct - Moxier doesn't use any juice (not noticeable anyway).. I ran a test with wifi off and data/ mms off over night.. so it was just basically a dumb phone with loads of fancy apps.. it used 2% in about 8 hours...
No start up auditor, no task manager... I am running Helix Launcher.
It's natural to not want apps running in the background. What's the first thing you want to do to optimise your PC? Remove unused startup processes and background tasks. It's more important for a phone which has more limited resources than a PC.
I don't use Moxier Mail, Timescape or PlayNow. But for some reason they all open themselves up in the background every so often.
Iceman, I feel pretty lame for trying to manage the apps so much. Going to try a the same test tonight to see what happens.
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hello friends. ive been using adw launcher fr a while... didnt had any issues b4 bt now... whenever i press the home button, adw launcher restarts and all the widgets hav to b loaded again. its ok if it happens like once in 2 days but it happens like almost everytime i press it... nd im really irritated with it.
jus in case u wana knw, im using Estrongs task manager.
waiting fr ur replies. thanks.
did you set ADW to replace default one?
my problem is when i hold the home key (to switch between recent apps) i have to set adw as default again ... and i experience a lot of crashes - mostly when i go back from an app to my home screen .... for me the new version is unusable now
Yes yes. I have.
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go to market and download home swicher this is an application to chosse the action for home button and u can change this action as u want
momerbk said:
im using Estrongs task manager.
waiting fr ur replies. thanks.
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Try uninstalling that and see how you get on.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Try uninstalling that and see how you get on.
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okay.. bt then which task manager should i use? which one gives me the max ram and cpu pfftt i mean which one is the best with which my x10i will run smoothly
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None of them. My advice is not to use them.
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None of them. My advice is not to use them.
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but then the phone gets too laggy... esp if ure using a launcher and not a task manager
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okay.. bt then which task manager should i use?
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I use Advanced Task Killer (free version) and works pretty well on my phone. Some people say not to use one but have yet to see any evidence of why not to other than peoples opinions, so it's up to you whether or not you want to use one.
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but then the phone gets too laggy... esp if ure using a launcher and not a task manager
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Mine works much better without task killers. No lags at all... And i tried many of them. It´s just my opinion, dude. You can find many threads about this to get your own: to use or not task killers.
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edit: And I use ADW (last update) and 026 firm non rooted. No task killer. No startup manager. And everything is just fine.
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Mine works much better without task killers. No lags at all... And i tried many of them. It´s just my opinion, dude. You can find many threads about this to get your own: to use or not task killers.
regards
edit: And I use ADW (last update) and 026 firm non rooted. No task killer. No startup manager. And everything is just fine.
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XperiaX10iUser said:
I use Advanced Task Killer (free version) and works pretty well on my phone. Some people say not to use one but have yet to see any evidence of why not to other than peoples opinions, so it's up to you whether or not you want to use one.
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ohk. ill try to do both things... thanks a lot for the help! =)
I don't feel like writing out the full reason for why not to use a task killer.
Luckily for me, this link explains it nicely.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Once you give it a read, you can google around and you will find other sources which give you the same info in a bit more detail.
As for the widget problem? I have yet to experience it unless I am changing a setting on ADW (pretty much any changed setting under ADW settings will result in my widgets reloading). However, I never experience it other than that. I imagine the task killer is your problem.
Good luck!
Again, it is an opinion, but without ATK, I would not be able to fully use ADW. You can explain the logic about why one should or should not use a task killer. My own personal experience shows that my battery and phone performs better with the free version of ATK.
[Note: the link to the geekfor.me as posted by ^^ says that Android automatically kills tasks when more memory is needed. NOT true with the X10. That is why the phone re-starts from time to time. SE's own support site list this as an issue. Once I have started using ATK, my phone does not re-starts by itself anymore].
Terul said:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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"Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when it’s done doing what it needs to do."
So why then does it leave tasks running when you close them, for example, if I use Meridian then close it, the app will still show in the ATK list, and remains there until I shut it down. When you boot the phone, it loads a few apps, that would remain there unless I use ATK. The first reply to the article sums up the experience of a lot of users.
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Again, it is an opinion, but without ATK, I would not be able to fully use ADW. You can explain the logic about why one should or should not use a task killer. My own personal experience shows that my battery and phone performs better with the free version of ATK.
[Note: the link to the geekfor.me as posted by ^^ says that Android automatically kills tasks when more memory is needed. NOT true with the X10. That is why the phone re-starts from time to time. SE's own support site list this as an issue. Once I have started using ATK, my phone does not re-starts by itself anymore].
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Mine has never re-started itself without task killer.
I use Advanced Task Manager since I started using X10 with ADW Launcher. It was all fine at the begining. Then I reinstalled software and restored aplications (without settings) and started experience the same problem as OP. So I have changed some settings in ADW, especially paying attention to System Preferences and UI settings. I don't know excatly what I have changed but I do NOT experience any problems with ADW "restarting" after that. So in my opinion this problem is down to setting ADW properly, only.
My ADW was experiencing that as well and I enabled ADW Settings > System Preferences > System persistent
This seemed to fix it for me.
ATK and similar apps are a personal choice, I used ATK until late June but since uninstalled the phone had run smoother. But then, it's rooted and overclocked...
ADW is probably the best home, openhome and panda have issues and xxx too crashes too often
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Reeonimus said:
My ADW was experiencing that as well and I enabled ADW Settings > System Preferences > System persistent
This seemed to fix it for me.
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thx to the new version you cant use persistent mode with orientation in landscape(or sensor mode) - i dont get why ...
Hello
I am making this topic in the general section because beautiful widgets is a very common application and is used by many people.
Earlier I was using a 3rd party task killer but with samsung app which is available in the latest version I thought that there is no need to use any other.
Anyone noticed when you clear RAM using Samsung task manager and select just "Level 1" even then it kill beautiful widgets and then the clock is just stuck at the time and it doesnt update.
Only workaround is to trash and add the widget again. Sadly samsung task manager doesnt even have option to add some apps to ignore. In that case its pretty much unusable!
I dont know if its as common as you may think. I have both the samsung task killer and beautiful widgets and it doesn't cause a problem for me.
I see the same problem. Would be nice to be able to exclude some apps/widgets that one never wants killed.
I do not have this problem awith buitifull widget. I have the problem with adw launcher.
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replied to the wrong thread.. sorry..
Same here but after killing the widget is loading automatically. Also the menu is closed when the ram is cleaned.
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I have installed a third party task manager now by rhythm software which seems to be good. Its sad though that the defailt manager doesnt have tje option to add apps o ignore list when every third party app seems to br having it.
I always used an task killer, now that i'm on jpk fw, i only use the integrated samsung taskmanager to kill programs that are running in the background, he's keeping himself at 230MB free memory at pretty much all time =/
Stable build while having +230MB free memory, never ever to be using a taskkiller again, cos you'll ruin the autoupdates from widgets and stuff, ofcourse..
Widgets are kept updated
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I always used an task killer, now that i'm on jpk fw, i only use the integrated samsung taskmanager to kill programs that are running in the background, he's keeping himself at 230MB free memory at pretty much all time =/
Stable build while having +230MB free memory, never ever to be using a taskkiller cos you'll ruin the autoupdates from widgets and stuff, ofcourse..
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+1
With Froyo things would change. But since Currently there is no official update and the phone has Eclair there are RAM issues sometimes.
With 2.1 I saw the available RAm many times around +33MB and after dumping the processes maybe max 140MB and not without the expectable widgets update problems. Sooo, for the time being, live with it! ^^
Froyo will solve all these problems for you, they just have to polish it up a bit; making more use of the option-button than de current un-official build has.
ok so... when i first got shifted, first app i installed was quadrant and smartbench. now... i ran quadrant right off the bat. easy 1607 1657 and 1704
Now Im hitting 1304 1345 and 1205 (this 1 almost made me cry)
also atk'd everything (still low scores) and rebooted then atk'd, same thing
Having else having this issue?
EDIT: Scatch that! it was my lwp and widgets, man do i feel dumb XD
ANOTHER EDIT: Scratch that again , its still happening lol
Uninstall everything then reboot and try again or do a factory reset. Like it's been said before, benchmarking and real life are two different things. Try not to get too obsessive with numbers. If the phone feels like it's slowing down then start removing programs you don't use often.
There is a built in task killer. Go to settings then applications then running services. Stop programs you know what they are and do. That seems to help a little.
Try installing or stopping the ATK and running it then.
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Uninstall everything then reboot and try again or do a factory reset. Like it's been said before, benchmarking and real life are two different things. Try not to get too obsessive with numbers. If the phone feels like it's slowing down then start removing programs you don't use often.
There is a built in task killer. Go to settings then applications then running services. Stop programs you know what they are and do. That seems to help a little.
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How do I stop certain things, even just small ones like the STOCKS application from restarting automatically?
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NuAngel said:
How do I stop certain things, even just small ones like the STOCKS application from restarting automatically?
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Either remove the app with titanium backup, or try using autorun killer. Either will require temp root.
Go into sync settings and disable it
Hi, firstly I did a search but didn't find anything similar.
I have noticed that sometimes when I turn the screen on from standby, the screen will be unresponsive and I need to hard shutdown by holding the power button down.
Has a gone else experienced this? Or know how to solve it?
Thanks in advance
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hi.
yeah ... got the same problem on mine. i also don't know what's the caues or how to get rid of the problem.
greets
rouge app
Most likely its a rouge app crashing the touch interfaces or crashing in the background in sleep mode.
I don't recommend them for daily use but you could try getting a task killer app.I used advanced task killer. Run it in background see what apps are still running or start up on thee own.use it to kill all also before you put to sleep.if that helps freeze one of the running apps at a time between sleep mode to diagnose if its actually a app causing the issue.
You might try posting here with more detail about your system and changes you have made people help those that give very detailed information.
Good luck.
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Most likely its a rouge app crashing the touch interfaces or crashing in the background in sleep mode.
I don't recommend them for daily use but you could try getting a task killer app.I used advanced task killer. Run it in background see what apps are still running or start up on thee own.use it to kill all also before you put to sleep.if that helps freeze one of the running apps at a time between sleep mode to diagnose if its actually a app causing the issue.
You might try posting here with more detail about your system and changes you have made people help those that give very detailed information.
Good luck.
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+1 to erica_Renee - snag a copy of advanced task killer and keep an eye on what apps you have installed.
erica_renee said:
Most likely its a rouge app crashing the touch interfaces or crashing in the background in sleep mode.
I don't recommend them for daily use but you could try getting a task killer app.I used advanced task killer. Run it in background see what apps are still running or start up on thee own.use it to kill all also before you put to sleep.if that helps freeze one of the running apps at a time between sleep mode to diagnose if its actually a app causing the issue.
You might try posting here with more detail about your system and changes you have made people help those that give very detailed information.
Good luck.
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Thanks I'll definitely try that. Will report back in about 24 hours
Oops forgot to leave details haha. I'm running stock 3.1 and richardtrips kernel at 1.2ghz. No other changes besides app installation from market
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