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Hello, when using the camera, taking pictures of video, i feel that it is a bit sluggish, like when you move the camera around the fps seems to be very low, is this possible to improve/fix in someway?
tone the brightness down to about -1.5 or -2 and also bear in mind that it is going to be sluggish when its dark. Also, check out the how to imrpove graphics performance thread sticky in ROM developement and download the new .cab to improve all-round performance.
I'm scoring really low quadrant scores...13-1400 range, which is lower than my thunderbolt. Any idea why it would be so low? It runs fine, I just found that odd.
For me QHD displays are too much for a 5.7 inch phone. The exynos version looks pretty powerful, but I guess I`d rather have better performance than insane ppi.
Watching some on/off screen GPU benchmark reviews for the LG G3, Oppo Find 7 and S5 "Premium", the off screen (1080p) tests had an average of 51% higher scores than on screen (QHD) scores. I mean, WOW! That`s a lot! I can post the results here if you want to skip the trouble looking for it.
One guy on youtube changed his LG G3 resolution from QHD to Full HD using NOMone Resolution Changer and used Xposed to change DPI and font scale of native apps to make them work.
What do you think about this? This could possibly increase overall performance+battery life and definitely increase gaming performance.
The videos about resolution downscale on the G3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATk2xCSgp70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csBhVcIBV64
Sounds like you need to stay with your note 3
... and reduce resolution to 720p
and, no one cares about benchmarks..
and... lol reading above comments make me laugh
why you bought note 4 if you want to reduce it's resolution, there will be 1080p device later if you want SD805
Daaaaaamn, this a deal breaker... If I cannot reduce the resolution of the Note 4 to 4:3 CRT TV 480i letterbox... I will not buy it, what a piece of crap! I was hoping to get at least 6 months of battery life on each charge with CRT resolution... I reduced to 320i my note 3 and it lasts almost a year on a single charge. The only problem is that I am having issues watching YouTube in HD for some unknown reason.
funny stuff!
we ***** and moan that we want QHD/4K/ultra definition on our "5 inch video screens", then once we get it, we complain that it uses too much battery life, so we have to "downrez" it..
you just cant make some people happy...
I'm more curious of how the screen will look like if in 1080p, especially the pentile effect. We know that we still see the pentile effect somewhat on Note 3, not sure on Note 4's 1440p screen.
Don't really care about performance.
I can't see any difference, but I can't see any pentile on 1080p phones too so...
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if you reduce resolution to 256 x 144 battery life will be improved by a factor of 10!
much better than 1080p! OMG!
Is there any sound reason for bashing the OP ?
Just because he thinks a little bit different than you, maybe a step ahead of you ?
His idea is no nonsense.
If it IS possible to boost perfomance by lowering the resolution to e. g. Full HD, that would be quite beneficial.
Practical example: Let's talk about a game, "World of Tanks - Blitz".
Great game on the PC, not so great game on Android. Reason: Graphics are not the best. At present, there's a kind of universal version out, all reduced graphics to make sure the game works with most Android devices, even the weaker ones. Game publisher said they're working on a version you can adapt to the performance of your system. Hope they won't lie.
2560 x 1440 pixels is quite a number.
Rendering that many pixels WILL take a lot of processing power, WILL be quite a burden on the CPU and the battery.
So the results are likely to be: Great graphics but bad performance - or bad graphics because the game recognizes the overall performance as being too low for high details AND fluid gameplay.
Plus: You can watch your battery going down in no time, as rendering that mass of pixels will take a lot of power.
Let's say we've got a resolution of 853 x 480. SOUNDS like subzero quality, but don't forget the tiny screen (compared with a large PC monitor).
If it's possible to display 853 x 480 using the highest details setting, the result will look classes better than 2560 x 1440 with low details. You won't be able to spot single pixels, just a wealth of fine graphics.
So a reduced resolution and highest details will look MUCH better than highest resolution and low details. That's benefit one.
Second, gameplay will be vastly improved by a higher framerate and more CPU power for handling all the netcode and stuff.
Third, our battery will last far longer because of the lower battery drain.
Result would be a great looking, blazing fast game which won't suck your battery dry in no time,
And that's a reason to laugh at the OP, for bashing him ?
I do NOT know if reducing the resolution AND saving ressources is possible.
But IF it's possible, it would be a great step forward.
You will NOT able to see the difference between full resolution and reduced resolution on the tiny Note 4's display.
Only differences will be graphics and details quality - and higher speed, better framerates, more fluid gameplay.
And there will be always some room for compromises like slightly higher resolution and the like.
Now bash on if you still feel like.
Just a bunch of trolls. There are many people dowscaling resolution to play. I personally leave at 1080p all the time. Just restart and everything rescales to the right dpi.
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I don't know of a way to reduce it to 1080p, but wouldn't it make more sense to buy an s5? Battery life was superb on my s5, still wouldn't swap it for my note 4 though, optimise your note 4, it holds its own in terms of battery life and performance.
All depends on why you got a note4, I love the s-pen, I like the added fingerprint reader and heart rate monitor, and like the better camera with OIS. I already can't see the pixels on my Note3 though, so why would I care if I downgraded my Note4 to "only" that same resolution? Having longer battery life and higher performance for all the bits that matter to you sounds like a much better plan than having more pixels than you can possibly see.
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so why would I care if I downgraded my Note4 to "only" that same resolution?.
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You didn't get the idea at all. It's about making games run faster and with far better details. Same as with PC games.
Read my post!
Edit: It was me not reading the post correctly. Sorry !
I'd be interested in this also. I would love the ability to lower the resolution for a few apps I use on my note 4
I like this idea for performance in games and battery saving but you definitely can see the pixels on the Note3 and indeed any 1080p mobile right now. The extra resolution on the Note 4 really pays off for normal useage but games should be able to default to 1080p at the very least.
Phones should have a resolution change option like pc's these days anyway.
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You didn't get the idea at all. It's about making games run faster and with far better details. Same as with PC games.
Read my post!
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Sorry, I think you misunderstood. I was agreeing with you. My point was that I don't really "lose" anything if I downgrade the resolution as on a screen this size I can't see individual pixels even at 1080 I was also countering those who said the OP should have stuck with a note 3 by saying that the note 4 has many other improvements as well, and that the resolution, though better on paper doesn't really matter.
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Sorry, I think you misunderstood.
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Yes, I indeed did - I did not read carefully enough.
Just added a comment to my post regarding this.
Thank you for pointing this out !
NOMone resolution changer in the app store lets you bring it down to 1080P.
Hi there,
You can call me Eme, and I am here to share my knowledge as a tech-oriented engineer. I am humbled to be one of the first to own a Mate 8 (UAE) after a long wait from Hong Kong.
My findings are reflected on day to day performance (work + daily activities). So far what I found:
- Packaging looks gorgeous.
- The fast-charge takes a while since its a 4000mA.
- Colors are vibrant.
- Blacks are average, not as good as LG V10/iP6s+.
- Battery lasted to the second day with 35% (with extensive use like gaming, downloading, youtube, camera test).
- Speakers sound crisp, rich and loud without distortion. Louder than iPhone 6s & Samsung Note 5 (bass is much deeper).
- As for Huawei's new headset, you will notice an improved sound on DTS mode. There is no information whether or not a dedicated DAC is inside the Mate 8 (like V10/Note5). The sound is crispy clear and rich in highs, mids and lows. You can increase the functionality by activating "Smart headset control" feature to have total of 9 commands executed with just 3 buttons (volume up, volume down and mute).
- Headset design is copied from Apple's. It doubles as a radio antenna (keep it).
- The aluminum unibody is rigid.
- Antennas are excellent and signal reception is always full bars 4G (there is a signal boost feature which can increase signal intake). Haven't tested that one yet since I am in the city.
- Not on the thick-heavy side like iPhone 6s Plus.
- Lock button is clicky, just like Mx Cherry Red keyboards. Likable.
- SECURITY screams out of it. Whether it is from Marshmallow 6.0 or Huawei EMUI 4.0. The device is restricting every single bit going in or out.
- 1.93 GB is available out of 4 GB RAM as observed. After deleting Huawei bloatware RAM went up to 2.4GB.
- The Camera takes sharp photos during daylight. I have yet to test night shoots (Super Night mode).
- Camera app features: Panorama, Super Night, HDR, Professional, All-focus, Watermark, Online Translation, Slow-mo, Object Recognition, Audio note and Document readjustment.
- Launchers like Nova run smooth and fluid.
- Gaming performance, minor games with high graphics might find screen tearing & inverted colors. It may be good for average games (or top games with medium settings).
- There is a data transfer speed monitor besides the battery indicator on top (very handy).
Super Night mode:
From what I noticed so far is that you need a stand or hold the phone steadily to wait for 23 seconds in order for "Super Night" to process both high and low ISO shots then combine them into a picture. In my opinion this is not what users are looking for in a big gathering or a date. More photos will be posted later on.
Gaming:
"Kritika" example: Notice the top is Medium settings. Bottom is High settings.
http://i.imgur.com/AtzpGHY.jpg
Picture samples:
Check out the gallery at https://emerald.smugmug.com
Wow that game performance doesn't sound great at all. Almost unusable.
Have you set it to performance mode for gaming? GPU is ~85% of the power of S810 but only on a 1080p screen here. Emulators running fine for me here, just installing Dead Effect 2 to see how it goes. If you have performance mode on then I'd suspect it's more a matter of poor optimisation for the SoC, which unfortunately is not likely to improve a whole lot given the number of Kirin 950 devices will be small.
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Also, you need to give Play Store internal storage permission to download those large games, until I did that I had same issue as you with large game installs appearing to cause the Play Store to crash.
ADDIT: Tried Dead Trigger 2 on max settings and seems fine. Riptide GP2 also fine, although won't allow the highest shader setting (crashes), maxed apart from that.
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kopkiwi said:
Wow that game performance doesn't sound great at all. Almost unusable.
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See my post, I think their testing may have been affected by not allowing max performance mode.
NZtechfreak said:
Have you set it to performance mode for gaming? GPU is ~85% of the power of S810 but only on a 1080p screen here. Emulators running fine for me here, just installing Dead Effect 2 to see how it goes. If you have performance mode on then I'd suspect it's more a matter of poor optimisation for the SoC, which unfortunately is not likely to improve a whole lot given the number of Kirin 950 devices will be small.
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Also, you need to give Play Store internal storage permission to download those large games, until I did that I had same issue as you with large game installs appearing to cause the Play Store to crash.
ADDIT: Tried Dead Trigger 2 on max settings and seems fine.
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See my post, I think their testing may have been affected by not allowing max performance mode.
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The phone is gorgeous, it is my daily driver as of now
Performance mode is on when I have done the testing.. Screen tearing and stuttering are still there (Kritika on high graphics). Probably due to the fact that it is a Mali-T880 MP4 (less), not MP8 like Samsung's.
I will post a screenshot after I finish my 10 post limit restriction.
Emerald Core said:
The phone is gorgeous, it is my daily driver as of now
Performance mode is on when I have done the testing.. Screen tearing and stuttering are still there (Kritika on high graphics). Probably due to it is a T4 not 8 like Samsung's.
I will post a screenshot after I finish my 10 post limit restriction.
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Might be that one game, just tested Asphalt 8 in addition to the above and no issues on max settings. Also, doubt it's 4 cores vs 8, given the difference in screen res here.
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Might be that one game, just tested Asphalt 8 in addition to the above and no issues on max settings.
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Some games worked fine and some didn't. All the games I tested ran smoothly in Note 5's old gpu Mali-T760MP8 on high graphics. Performance mode didn't help the in gpu department.
Emerald Core said:
Some games worked fine and some didn't. All the games I tested ran smoothly in Note 5's old gpu Mali-T760MP8 on high graphics. Performance mode didn't help the in gpu department.
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Just installed Kritika and played all the intro levels, no issues here.
Some games working well and not others points to lack of optimisation for the SoC, rather than indicators of the GPU performance I think. Kritika had to redownload the game assets when I left and restarted, which didn't seem like an indicator of a high quality piece of software to me (that and the game is utter freemium trash).
OP is correct tho in saying that the upcoming S7 will have the same gpu but actually with 12 core (T880-MP12) instead of the mate 8's MP4. fine by me though, i dont really game on my phones [emoji14] thats what i use my high performance laptop for
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jbmc83 said:
OP is correct tho in saying that the upcoming S7 will have the same gpu but actually with 12 core (T880-MP12) instead of the mate 8's MP4. fine by me though, i dont really game on my phones [emoji14] thats what i use my high performance laptop for
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Of course, never said otherwise. It'll significantly outperform this for graphics. For native resolution workloads the difference will be far less pronounced.
very true! at perfect scaling and all other things being equal, the MP12 will be performing at 300% of the MP4 at identical resolution. considering a 2K screen will have 78% more pixels than a 1080p screen, the real world performance will be more like:
300% / 1.78 = 169%, thus "only" 69% faster than the mate 8
in any case, the mate 8 gpu will be almost twice as fast as the current setup in my nexus 5
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Yeah, in absolute terms faster than my Note 4, in relative terms taking into account native resolution quite a bit faster.
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Just installed Kritika and played all the intro levels, no issues here.
Some games working well and not others points to lack of optimisation for the SoC, rather than indicators of the GPU performance I think. Kritika had to redownload the game assets when I left and restarted, which didn't seem like an indicator of a high quality piece of software to me (that and the game is utter freemium trash).
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I was talking about overall experience not initial impression. You won't notice that because I have played the game for a while and my character has high level armor which started tearing and changed color from dark grey to pink.. Let me upload the image to show my findings later.
where is the test photos for the camera ? we are all eager to see how it performs ?
the mega pixels says nothing.
What I expect is mediocre camera that will not handle evening photos very well like most, and it will have a lot of shadows if the light conditions is not ideal.
This is what I expect.. Nexus 6P did prove this and they killed the megapixel race... since manufactures understand now it is not about megapixels.
Appel have told us that since stone age.
blackinfinity said:
where is the test photos for the camera ? we are all eager to see how it performs ?
the mega pixels says nothing.
What I expect is mediocre camera that will not handle evening photos very well like most, and it will have a lot of shadows if the light conditions is not ideal.
This is what I expect.. Nexus 6P did prove this and they killed the megapixel race... since manufactures understand now it is not about megapixels.
Appel have told us that since stone age.
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I am still limited to 10-post-new-user policy, so no links allowed for now. Give it an hour before I post. I have the photos ready no worries.
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I am still limited to 10-post-new-user policy, so no links allowed for now. Give it an hour before I post. I have the photos ready no worries.
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The picture on top is set on Medium Graphics. Bottom is High Graphics.
http://i.imgur.com/AtzpGHY.jpg
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The picture on top is set on Medium Graphics. Bottom is High Graphics.
http://i.imgur.com/AtzpGHY.jpg
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This is not intended to show the true power of this device. It is basically tap and shoot. There is a Super Night mode I have yet to test. More photos incoming.
Thanks for pics, not yet shot a low with mine yet. I have a steady hand, so for static night images I would use a low ISO for reduced noise and compensate with a slower shutter speed in super night mode, but good to see point n shoot performance. Will post some of my own examples later.
Regards some games "crashing the Play Store" - you might want to update that for readers with the solution I posted later.
I still think you're still making far too much of an issue with a single game. I know you haven't tested as many other higher-end games as I have as you hadn't worked out how to install them, please post some more feedback when you have tried some of those much larger installs.
Regarding the photos in your first post.
The photos seem noisey even in daylight shots.. .
Did you install the latest firmware update which did improve the camera ?
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Thanks for pics, not yet shot a low with mine yet. I have a steady hand, so for static night images I would use a low ISO for reduced noise and compensate with a slower shutter speed in super night mode, but good to see point n shoot performance. Will post some of my own examples later.
Regards some games "crashing the Play Store" - you might want to update that for readers with the solution I posted later.
I still think you're still making far too much of an issue with a single game. I know you haven't tested as many other higher-end games as I have as you hadn't worked out how to install them, please post some more feedback when you have tried some of those much larger installs.
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I shouldn't be making an issue if the graphics wasn't behaving that way. If in this mid-tier game graphics can't be handled then there is probably plenty other games that will show same behaviour or even worse. It has to be tested further.
As for crashing. Thanks for reminding, It will be updated soon.
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Regarding the photos in your first post.
The photos seem noisey even in daylight shots.. .
Did you install the latest firmware update which did improve the camera ?
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Yes it has been updated to the latest before performing any test.
Hello my friends
My phone gaming is bad , when i playing pubg mobile its laggy and low frame rate even in low graffic settings ! My antutu benchmark is low (120000 , gpu is 4600) what is my problem ? Before i had mi max 2 and its very smooth gaming . what can i do ? This is very important for me , excuse me because of my bad english.
mahmoodfadaei said:
Hello my friends
My phone gaming is bad , when i playing pubg mobile its laggy and low frame rate even in low graffic settings ! My antutu benchmark is low (120000 , gpu is 4600) what is my problem ? Before i had mi max 2 and its very smooth gaming . what can i do ? This is very important for me , excuse me because of my bad english.
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hey there!
when gaming, are you experiencing high temperatures as well? I bet you are! in that case there could be a quite easy fix: change the original thermal paste on your SoC with some quality one, and that should give you a great boost in performances as well.
there's a full topic here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/changed-thermal-paste-h910-t3782765
I did the same on my h990ds, around may, and now high temps are just a bad memory
lucky for us the v20 is really easy to open, you just need the right screwdriver
Any other solution ?
I cant do this my waranty void .
I see in youtube reviews and normaly have 140000+ antutu scores !
nope, I'm afraid this is the only way to solve it if it actually is overheating.
when the temperature rises over a certain level, cpu/gpu downclocks to avoid possibile damages.
perhaps you could contact your local LG assistance center and explain your problem, they could run some test and see for themselves!