3.1 update - flash streaming now works ok? - Xoom General

Hi guys
I had a xoom but sold it (long story). Seeing that 3.1 seems to fix so many of the issue i'm considering jumping back but would have a short question.
Does viewing / streaming flash movies in 720 now work or is it still extremely choppy? I do not mean in the youtube app, but in the browser from sites such as e.g. project free tv online. This (and the frequent fcs in the browser and market) was the main reason i got rid of my xoom, because i would like to use it (also) to stream tv shows while exercising on the indoor bike :-b
Otherwise great device!
Thanks, and happy xooming
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I haven't had any FC's yet, second day on 3.1, I must say I'm very pleased.
Sry, I have no idea about flash playback.

Pirated high profile video will still be just as choppy on any tegra 2 device.
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Bauxite said:
Pirated high profile video will still be just as choppy on any tegra 2 device.
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forgive my naivity, but what do you mean with pirated? i did not know that projct free tv is illegal (seriously).
then let's talk about other sites, such as e.g. ted.com or the media libraries of our official tv channels (sf.tv, ard.de, 3sat.de etc.), they all were not watchable at all, so choppy :-(

Oxytoxine said:
forgive my naivity, but what do you mean with pirated? i did not know that projct free tv is illegal (seriously).
then let's talk about other sites, such as e.g. ted.com or the media libraries of our official tv channels (sf.tv, ard.de, 3sat.de etc.), they all were not watchable at all, so choppy :-(
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I don't have the update yet, so I am not sure....
But, I do believe TV stream is illegal and am shocked its still on the market.

Oxytoxine said:
forgive my naivity, but what do you mean with pirated? i did not know that projct free tv is illegal (seriously).
then let's talk about other sites, such as e.g. ted.com or the media libraries of our official tv channels (sf.tv, ard.de, 3sat.de etc.), they all were not watchable at all, so choppy :-(
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I was being tounge-in-cheek as I don't care if its pirated... but most people complain about 720p videos not working when they have torrented it as most pirated TV shows and movies use high profile.
High profile playback is a hardware issue. Overall flash video is much better.
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ok, thanks for the clarification(s) guys!

I tried Ted.com and it works great.
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merci beaucoup!

Video seems to work OK. Flash playback is pretty good. Movies on the other hand are hit or miss. 720p seems to need an overclock to play nice on my xoom.

911junkie said:
Video seems to work OK. Flash playback is pretty good. Movies on the other hand are hit or miss. 720p seems to need an overclock to play nice on my xoom.
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I've yet to receive the 3.1 update, still on 3.0.1, but I can assure you 720p videos work just fine, you just have to play nice with your encodes.

I'm on 3.1, I was able to watch some 720p videos on you tube in the browser. Depending on the amount of motion or what have you they sometimes lagged out but generally it was fine. I watched the "big buck" demo and it was pretty smooth.

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[Q] Flash 10.2 performance ?

so i just watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqxKHGO9HhM
its on samsung galaxy s II ..
how about atrix ? can it handle 720p in browser ?
Every YouTube video I try defaults to 360p and when I try to bring up the resolution selection, it appears for a split second and goes away. I can't even choose 720p!
I can use 720p on my vibrant
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No the Atrix istn able to play ANY 720p youtube video without lagging on the net. You have to watch in 480p.
Tegra 2 istn capable of this.
Just played a bunch of 720p videos on youtube, all ran smooth and fast.
The only video that never played flash was some espn ones
KingKuba13 said:
Just played a bunch of 720p videos on youtube, all ran smooth and fast.
The only video that never played flash was some espn ones
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Thats impossible. Tegra 2 isnt capable of decoding HP 720p youtube videos hardwarewise & it doesnt have to.
So i dont know which phone you have right now but its not the atrix..
my atrix streams 720p perfectly... Idk what you guys are talking about. Use wifi cuz att speed sucks
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thereal2x said:
my atrix streams 720p perfectly... Idk what you guys are talking about. Use wifi cuz att speed sucks
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Omg what are you talking about?
You cant play 720p youtube videos in the browser with the atrix..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dgSa4wmMzk&feature=related&hd=1
test it..
it stutters as hell
Hianz said:
Omg what are you talking about?
You cant play 720p youtube videos in the browser with the atrix..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dgSa4wmMzk&feature=related&hd=1
test it..
it stutters as hell
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That video played fine for me. Not sure what resolution it is pushing as the mobile site only says HQ.
Jeah mobile HQ youtube = 480p.
You have to play it directly in the stock browser.
Yeah those that have it "working" must be on the mobile youtube site. Embedded in the stock browser, it stutters pretty bad.
that and you get the "not optimized for mobile" message
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Yeah those that have it "working" must be on the mobile youtube site. Embedded in the stock browser, it stutters pretty bad.
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I just tried it in the stock browser embedded. Not stuttering, its watchable, just not perfect perfect smooth.
I'm on Bell and using flash 10.1, not sure if that makes any difference.
Yea.... i dunno if the "Tegra 2 does not support it" statement is the greatest way to put it. It more than likely CAN play 720p video in the browser.... but i'm guessing it would need to be a browser with GPU-assisted rendering in order to be perfectly smooth playback.
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Omg what are you talking about?
You cant play 720p youtube videos in the browser with the atrix..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dgSa4wmMzk&feature=related&hd=1
test it..
it stutters as hell
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Testing...
Ack, this is horrible! Oh wait, I thought it was stuttering. Then I saw it was just loading.
...10 minutes later (Hey AT&T, I think you forgot the 4G part on my Atrix 4G)
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Now playing with video finally loaded:
A little stutter as it start playing, but smooth after the first 3 seconds....Opera 11 mobile browser.
For a while, I had both the Atrix and the Inspire. I loaded MotoBlur 1.1 on the Atrix and CM7 nightly on the Inspire (which OC'ed it to 1.5 Ghz). I tested various flash videos with both devices side by side running Dolphin Mini and Flash 10.2 over wifi.
Playback of 720p videos in the browser from sites like Devour.com were prefect and smooth on the 1.5 Ghz Inpsire. The same videos were almost unwatchable on the Atrix. I also noticed this when watching embedded video on pages filled with many clips (video section of Failblog for example). The same clip would be very choppy on the Atrix and the Inspire would play it smoothly.
I ended up keeping the Atrix because of battery issues with the Inspire (yes, I tried every trick in the book to optimize it). My time with both devices showed a fast, single core CPU results in much more "real life" performance than the dual core Atrix is capable of putting out.
Hopefully Flash and Android become better optimized for dual core processors.
Could it be froyo vs gingerbread thingi ? As i know ginger has some code optimise for flash but froyo is not.
Could also be the case. As we all know, there tends to be a pretty big difference from OS to OS..... take Eclair to Froyo for instance.

[lagtest] - 20 tabs of megavideo (video)

so i just did a pretty badass lagtest of the S2, pulled up 20 tabs, and played a video on all 20 tabs. not even the slightest hiccup, pinchzooming as smooth as a picture, no lag whatso ever, as smooth as going to google.com
had some stuff running in the background too, i didnt set up for this video at all.. original out of box stock rom.. totally unstoppable!
check out the video by yours truely~
Use the movie code from the YouTube URL in your browser. For example, for: http://youtube.com/watch?v=iox1hzW_ODE use: [youtube]iox1hzW_ODE[/youtube_] -- without the _
EDIT: Hahahha, funny test!
One Piece FTW!
xd haha
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hmm. Thats one certified badass !~!
For sure, the CPU is a beast, if nothing more.
This guy literally eats flash for its breakfast and probably some for dinner too.
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hmm. Thats one certified badass !~!
For sure, the CPU is a beast, if nothing more.
This guy literally eats flash for its breakfast and probably some for dinner too.
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I would not say that at all. It still cant play bbc HD, or bbc standard def flash without skipping.
Not impressed.
Dannyboyni said:
I would not say that at all. It still cant play bbc HD, or bbc standard def flash without skipping.
Not impressed.
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To be fair that's probably more to do with BBC's shoddy application than it is flash or the phone. How else do you explain that other flash streaming works perfectly?
Yea , and it cant run crysis :s
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Intratech said:
To be fair that's probably more to do with BBC's shoddy application than it is flash or the phone. How else do you explain that other flash streaming works perfectly?
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Im not talking about the application, I mean the bbc website watching using standard flash player.
Dannyboyni said:
Im not talking about the application, I mean the bbc website watching using standard flash player.
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I know what you mean. The beeb uses some bull**** which meant that the iplayer was not available to us Linux users for a long time even though we have flash capable browsers that played everything else.
Has anyone tried watching a 1080p flash video from the browser? Was it smooth or choppy?
Smooth as butter. I watched a ton of 1080p videos off YouTube and megavideo.
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Has anyone tried watching a 1080p flash video from the browser? Was it smooth or choppy?
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Buddy u keep trying to hold this over the sgs2 head. If every flash based site/video runs perfectly, it has to be something with BBC right? Don't b a b.
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I would not say that at all. It still cant play bbc HD, or bbc standard def flash without skipping.
Not impressed.
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Bbc iplayer dont even work that well on ps3 with a good wifi connectiob so i ainbt that worried. Bbc news app is slow too compared to skys one, thay just make **** apps and web sites
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Has anyone tried watching a 1080p flash video from the browser? Was it smooth or choppy?
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those were ALL 1080p.
loljk, idk maybe i should make a video of how many 1080p videos i can get and itll still be smooth.. wonder how many i would get oo
i wanna make a post or something where its just a whole page of embedded videos, so i dont have to do tabs, anyone got a forum they dont mind spamming with videos? ill make a cool video out of it!
That's because the ****heads at the BBC knows they'll be getting money from us every year regardless of the **** they produce. The TV licensing scheme is pure bull****, they should work for their keep like every other station.
@Killer Bee "Has anyone tried watching a 1080p flash video from the browser? Was it smooth or choppy?"
Very VERY SMOOTH. This was one of the first things I did when I got my first look at CPW.
I used to download 720p HD Videos from Tubemate for my SGS.
Now I don't need to download anymore. 1080p HD videos streaming straight from my SGS II >
BEST PHONE EVER
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dk206 said:
Very VERY SMOOTH. This was one of the first things I did when I got my first look at CPW.
I used to download 720p HD Videos from Tubemate for my SGS.
Now I don't need to download anymore. 1080p HD videos streaming straight from my SGS II
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How do u watch 1080p on YouTube ? Im having difficulties to change the video from 480p to 720p or 1080p. Help ?
dk206 said:
@Killer Bee "Has anyone tried watching a 1080p flash video from the browser? Was it smooth or choppy?"
Very VERY SMOOTH. This was one of the first things I did when I got my first look at CPW.
I used to download 720p HD Videos from Tubemate for my SGS.
Now I don't need to download anymore. 1080p HD videos streaming straight from my SGS II >
BEST PHONE EVER
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i downloaded a 1080p on tubemate, after changing connections to 6, to see how fast i could dl @. and 1080p videos are shrunken, theyre not fullscreen, are you getting this too?
WagTwo said:
How do u watch 1080p on YouTube ? Im having difficulties to change the video from 480p to 720p or 1080p. Help ?
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are you watching them in desktop mode? were watching them from the webbrowser, not the app, and having desktop mode on, then click 1080p right where you normally see it on the website from your computer

[Q] lack of video codecs??

i know there is a converter and some people having problems with mkv and i know about h.264 and im starting use my atrix as multimedia i watch some movies in "dvdrip" i doubt since seems quality it lower, i try with an anime dvdrip .mp4 and i cant watch so im wondering wich software i can use to convert in the desire format without lose quality. i have any dvd converter.
so not sure how to convert and what settings. this start annoy me since my n1 play several formats. sorry if this was covered but i didnt find the right solution.
thanks a lot
I would appreciate an answer to this as well.
I have found that the Affix will play most of the .avi movies that I download. I haven't had any luck with the few mp4 or mvk files I've tried.
If anyone knows how to convert any format to something the Atrix can play, please let us know..
Thanks!!
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Instead of converting just install a player that can decode all of these files. There are a couple of good ones out there. I've read good things about Meridian and VPlayer.
I try rock player no luck ,i download from youtube the google io in hd 60 fps 1280x720 and .mp4 and surprise I can't play.
My one year old nexus one do fine stupid motorola y try convert with any dvd and was awful the video was so fast not sync with sound,i guess because 60 fps and max van convert its 30 fps any more tips? Thanks
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zen kun said:
i know there is a converter and some people having problems with mkv and i know about h.264 and im starting use my atrix as multimedia i watch some movies in "dvdrip" i doubt since seems quality it lower, i try with an anime dvdrip .mp4 and i cant watch so im wondering wich software i can use to convert in the desire format without lose quality. i have any dvd converter.
so not sure how to convert and what settings. this start annoy me since my n1 play several formats. sorry if this was covered but i didnt find the right solution.
thanks a lot
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Use Handbrake and follow this guide for converting.. I've used it to convert anime as well.. works great for me...
http://www.knowyourcell.com/motorol...d_transfer_them_to_the_motorola_atrix_4g.html
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Use Handbrake and follow this guide for converting.. I've used it to convert anime as well.. works great for me...
http://www.knowyourcell.com/motorol...d_transfer_them_to_the_motorola_atrix_4g.html
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thanks i will give a shoot, this reduces the HQ videos???
zen kun said:
thanks i will give a shoot, this reduces the HQ videos???
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None that I've seen. Plus, even with a smaller bitrate, the resolution and density of the qHD on the Atrix makes up for it... movies look great
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None that I've seen. Plus, even with a smaller bitrate, the resolution and density of the qHD on the Atrix makes up for it... movies look great
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thanks, im pretending use multimedia mode in my TV so will be more to watch on my 42" tv than atrix xD i will try it thanks
The issue is not codecs, it's Tegra 2 cannot handle high profile HD decoding (at least at the moment)
If you stick to Main profile and no B-frames you will likely be ok. Which also means you are likely having to re-encode your video.
More info here
Handbrake preset here
qqplayer works
If you add the video with motorola media link (think that's what its called) it will convert it to play on your phone.
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I'm actually hoping VLC comes out soon for Android... would be sweet..
http://gigaom.com/video/vlc-for-android-demo-beta/
zen kun said:
I try rock player no luck ,i download from youtube the google io in hd 60 fps 1280x720 and .mp4 and surprise I can't play.
My one year old nexus one do fine stupid motorola y try convert with any dvd and was awful the video was so fast not sync with sound,i guess because 60 fps and max van convert its 30 fps any more tips? Thanks
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That Sucks so much Fail in the Atrix reason mines in the Box my G2X runs Dvix 1080p out the Box like a champ its a shame the Atrix can't
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That Sucks so much Fail in the Atrix reason mines in the Box my G2X runs Dvix 1080p out the Box like a champ its a shame the Atrix can't
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Yeah but do u have a Biometrics finger sensor ? Lol
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Yeah but do u have a Biometrics finger sensor ? Lol
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LOL xD
i try handbrake not sure how to make 1280*720 playable on atrix, i want my atrix play because i can play in multimedia dock si i can watch movies in HD on my tv its useless have a multimedia app if you cant use =X and i cant use vlplayer or something in multimedia mode =X so any suggestion about settings to hanbrake and keep 720 quality??
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Use Handbrake and follow this guide for converting.. I've used it to convert anime as well.. works great for me...
http://www.knowyourcell.com/motorol...d_transfer_them_to_the_motorola_atrix_4g.html
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Thanks for the link. Ill take a look at it and try to convert my stuff.
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Thanks for the links as well!
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If you just want to play files on your phone, try Moboplayer. I use it to watch XVIDs and it works perfectly. It is also free so worth a try.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil&feature=search_result
Taken from their AM page:
Enjoy Your Video. The best video player on Android! Watch any of your videos on a phone without conversion, anytime and anywhere. We feature the best playback experience and quality.
Our video player supports:
All video formats (need to choose "software decoding" mode in most cases)
Popular subtitle formats such as SRT, ASS, and SAA
Subtitles built in MKV, MPV, MOV, and others
Multi-audio streams and multi-subtitles
Playlists and continuous play on same type files
Videos streamed through HTTP, RTSP protocols
Media libraries and sort videos by type
Thumbnail displays of videos
strange dude, my atrix plays all formats, i think that have one, that only comes audio, but this video was 1080p(HD) and i dont made even 1 update in my atrix
it's not that simple.
just because you can play one individual 720p h.264 file doesn't mean you can play them all. there are different profiles / bit rates etc.
For h.264 Tegra 2 supports main profile but not high profile. Xoom owners have done all kinds of tests on this. To date no video player has been able to overcome this.

hardware acceleration on flash, is there a way to enable it yet

As the title states, do we have a way to get hardware acceleration on adobe flash. I hate staring at terrible framerates on HD YouTube via their website and stuttering along on other video streaming sites. This is a dual core device, my phone shouldn't be outperforming it.
agreed, I thought 3.1 honeycomb was supposed to include support for hardware accelerated flash. Sadly any flash video 720p or higher runs real slow on 3.1. Including amazon video on demand and YouTube....
trothmaster said:
agreed, I thought 3.1 honeycomb was supposed to include support for hardware accelerated flash. Sadly any flash video 720p or higher runs real slow on 3.1. Including amazon video on demand and YouTube....
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So 3.1 is not the holy grail of bug fixes everyone here is making it out to be... well who'd have thought?
Youtube works fine on my device. Tested with Dark Knight trailer on official youtube app.
Youtube performance
Works great on my a500 using honeycomb Youtube app - works just as well via stock browser on the web site.
What browser are you using to try to play video? Does HD video play in the native youtube app but not in your browser?
i think youtube app plays html5 ,not flash video
We are talking about flash 720p in browser not YouTube app....
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Ridicolous pixellated videos.
Deltaechoe said:
As the title states, do we have a way to get hardware acceleration on adobe flash. I hate staring at terrible framerates on HD YouTube via their website and stuttering along on other video streaming sites. This is a dual core device, my phone shouldn't be outperforming it.
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So, I'm not the only stupid guy who's having that ridicolous streaming video quality!
I was asking in the primee rom thread but everybody had ignored me, same thing in the acertabletforum.com thread, and in the facebook page to support the unlocked bootloader (where I was teased as an idiot).
Youtube has some pixellated video, both in the dedicated app and in the website.
Same issue for all other kind of streamed video.
What we have to wait? Is that a Tegra2 issue? My Galaxy S and my Iphone 4 have not this ridicolous video quality...So, who's the guilty? -.-
Google promised hardware acceleration with the 3.1 update...but it seems something gone wrong.
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My Galaxy S and my Iphone 4 have not this ridicolous video quality...So, who's the guilty?
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Iphone doesn't support Flash so either you're talking about HTML5 or you've just figured it out how to watch flash movies on iGear.
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Iphone doesn't support Flash so either you're talking about HTML5 or you've just figured it out how to watch flash movies on iGear.
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"Youtube has some pixellated video, both in the dedicated app and in the website.
Same issue for all other kind of streamed video."
Maybe you're forgotting this...I was talking about every kind of streamed video, not only a flashplayer based video.
And, you'll know for sure, some Cydia tweaks and Puffin browser, let see flash video in an iOS device.
i just figured out if you use a rom with an updated kernel to 2.6.36.4....the last 4 being the key flash hardware acceleration works great. At least on 720p.

1080p playback

Any way to do it? I read the galaxy s series wad capable but the feature was locked? Trying to watch the new bf3 Caspian border video in 1080p/60fps.. because YouTube sucks.
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Why?
Anything over 480p will just be scaled down to the 480p display and look, at best, the same as 480p.
RushAOZ said:
Any way to do it? I read the galaxy s series wad capable but the feature was locked? Trying to watch the new bf3 Caspian border video in 1080p/60fps.. because YouTube sucks.
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I don't recall any movies or tv's we have is 60fps. Its 29fps and 30fps
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Why?
Anything over 480p will just be scaled down to the 480p display and look, at best, the same as 480p.
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Because it's convenient not to have to transcode 1080p material that one may have in their media library just to watch it on their phone.
I deal with this all the time... I have a huge media server (10TB) with mostly HD content on it these days, because I watch the stuff via CIFS on my HD tv's using the LG BD570 bluray/network player.
I also use CifsManager (see Market) to mount these same shares from my server to easily access my library on my Epic4G around the house. I have ORB set up, but it' considerably less convenient and more cumbersome to use, so I only go that route when I'm away from home.
So, there is a very legitimate usage model where one might want to watch 1080p content on their phone. In addition to the network share (CIFS) method, one might simply want to copy 1080p media from their server to their phone for a trip, and not have to go through the hassle of transcoding.
dwallersv said:
Because it's convenient not to have to transcode 1080p material that one may have in their media library just to watch it on their phone.
I deal with this all the time... I have a huge media server (10TB) with mostly HD content on it these days, because I watch the stuff via CIFS on my HD tv's using the LG BD570 bluray/network player.
I also use CifsManager (see Market) to mount these same shares from my server to easily access my library on my Epic4G around the house. I have ORB set up, but it' considerably less convenient and more cumbersome to use, so I only go that route when I'm away from home.
So, there is a very legitimate usage model where one might want to watch 1080p content on their phone. In addition to the network share (CIFS) method, one might simply want to copy 1080p media from their server to their phone for a trip, and not have to go through the hassle of transcoding.
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This +10000.
You, sir, are far more eloquent than I could have been at explaining this.
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This +10000.
You, sir, are far more eloquent than I could have been at explaining this.
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there's an app called "Emit" on the market, which has server counterparts that will do server-side on-the-fly transcoding for you. The author posted some stuff about it on reddit and it was generally well received, but I haven't tried it out, really. Free version has ads, paid version doesn't.
I download 1080p content all the time, then stream it to my ps3 with an app or copy it over.
dwallersv said:
Because it's convenient not to have to transcode 1080p material that one may have in their media library just to watch it on their phone.
I deal with this all the time... I have a huge media server (10TB) with mostly HD content on it these days, because I watch the stuff via CIFS on my HD tv's using the LG BD570 bluray/network player.
I also use CifsManager (see Market) to mount these same shares from my server to easily access my library on my Epic4G around the house. I have ORB set up, but it' considerably less convenient and more cumbersome to use, so I only go that route when I'm away from home.
So, there is a very legitimate usage model where one might want to watch 1080p content on their phone. In addition to the network share (CIFS) method, one might simply want to copy 1080p media from their server to their phone for a trip, and not have to go through the hassle of transcoding.
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And yet, I didn't need to guess about OP's situation. In fact, he said:
RushAOZ said:
Any way to do it? I read the galaxy s series wad capable but the feature was locked? Trying to watch the new bf3 Caspian border video in 1080p/60fps.. because YouTube sucks.
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...for which my 'why' reply is quite appropriate.
No. He's absolutely right. I just downloaded the video and wantes to watch it. Without downscaling or any of that crap. Sometimes you want to do things the easy way. When you get a gs2, the outcome will be same. Same display resolution. Point is, I wanted to watch a damn video at 1080p lol and the hummingbird cpus in these phones can do it. So, back to the original question. Anyone know how to get this done? Without the trolling please? Lol
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The ipod touch can watch 720p...how come we can't and our OS is owned by the parent company of youtube!!
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My guess is that its disabled to make other phones seem like a better option? Not sure. But its annoying. And these phones are damn capable of it. Considering the power vr540 chip in these phones still kick ass compared to today's standards.
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RushAOZ said:
My guess is that its disabled to make other phones seem like a better option? Not sure. But its annoying. And these phones are damn capable of it. Considering the power vr540 chip in these phones still kick ass compared to today's standards.
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Man, the Epic 4g was gimped from the getgo because of the Evo.
The OG specs for the Galaxy S Pro wouldve stepped all over the EVO. Sprint couldnt have that considering the amount of marketing they put in the evo to just have this random samsung phone come out of nowhere right after they launch their most heavily marketed phone with better specs because then people will be complaining that they paid for the evo and a much better phone comes out right after.
idk. just my theory. i like connecting irrelevant dots
Bump yo
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I think you're going to have to be transcoding. If you got this video off of the web I'm willing to wager you're working with a long GOP codec, which is processor intensive. Add in the scaling required (if it's widescreen the 800px width is the limiting factor, not the 480px height) and you're looking at a fairly serious task.
If it's worth anything I can put 24 cores worth of Intel i7 (48 if you count hyperthreading) one one transcode from one RAID-5 to another RAID-5. If I'm going from a codec that's all I frames (like Animation or ProRes) and go to a long GOP codec (like H.264 or some mpeg variant) with scaling and a mild sharpening it takes about 1/2 of real time. For a mobile to decode a long GOP codec and do a similar scale in real time - what took 24 i7 cores half of real time - impresses me. Somehow the Galaxy S II seems to be able to. Rumour has it the Epic Touch is a few weeks out.
soundman1024 said:
I think you're going to have to be transcoding. If you got this video off of the web I'm willing to wager you're working with a long GOP codec, which is processor intensive. Add in the scaling required (if it's widescreen the 800px width is the limiting factor, not the 480px height) and you're looking at a fairly serious task.
If it's worth anything I can put 24 cores worth of Intel i7 (48 if you count hyperthreading) one one transcode from one RAID-5 to another RAID-5. If I'm going from a codec that's all I frames (like Animation or ProRes) and go to a long GOP codec (like H.264 or some mpeg variant) with scaling and a mild sharpening it takes about 1/2 of real time. For a mobile to decode a long GOP codec and do a similar scale in real time - what took 24 i7 cores half of real time - impresses me. Somehow the Galaxy S II seems to be able to. Rumour has it the Epic Touch is a few weeks out.
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I'm a giant newb when it cone to decoding and whatnot. Can you simplify that for me please? Lol the video is the battlefield 3 Caspian border gameplay video. I specifically found it at full 1080 at 60fps. Its about 355mb. I tried rock player and software mode was HORRIBLE lmao about 4-6 frames a sec the video was running at lmao
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Have you tried mvideoplayer? Rockplayer only does software decoding. But I don't think it's capable of 1080p60, just 1080p30.
MVideo Player is my pick too. I download tons of anime and it's in 720p and 1080p at times and it somehow magically plays smooth as butter on the Epic with MVideoPlayer and it even shows subtitles correctly with no transcoding. Who has time to transcode stuff ?
I tried mvideoplayer and it won't play that bf3 file lol I think I'm sol. I really want to rip a DVD at full quality to test me screen. Anyone know where I can get some native high quality 720p videos?
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MVideo Player is my pick too. I download tons of anime and it's in 720p and 1080p at times and it somehow magically plays smooth as butter on the Epic with MVideoPlayer and it even shows subtitles correctly with no transcoding. Who has time to transcode stuff ?
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Are you sure it is playing 1080p smoothly? Every time I try a 1080p file, no matter the bitrate it will disable hardware encoding, therefore playing choppy. Some 1080p files play OK, but never at the full framerate, at 1.6ghz it is fairly close, but still not 100%.
So far I've had the best luck with MX Video Player. MVideoPlayer works fine, but does not always display subtitles properly, and won't even play 1080p (Sorry, this video cannot be played) most of the time.
tbob18 said:
Are you sure it is playing 1080p smoothly? Every time I try a 1080p file, no matter the bitrate it will disable hardware encoding, therefore playing choppy. Some 1080p files play OK, but never at the full framerate, at 1.6ghz it is fairly close, but still not 100%.
So far I've had the best luck with MX Video Player. MVideoPlayer works fine, but does not always display subtitles properly, and won't even play 1080p (Sorry, this video cannot be played) most of the time.
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I figured I'd revive this thread since a fair amount has changed in the past 14 months. With new (and hopefully better) software decoding files using Android 4.0 and 4.1, 1080p video will at least run on an OG Epic 4G running CM9. However, the frame rate is still laughably low. That said, I was wondering if anyone has come across a configuration (overclocking or otherwise) that allows for a "relatively" smooth 1080p mp4 playback (really, minimal graphics movement, just so long as the audio and video sync). Yes, MX Video Player seems to be the best at running this high-resolution content (having used about 6 video players now), but not even HW+ and/or SW+ decoders can work fast enough.
Any insight is always appreciated.

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