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Crappy Pictures....shutter is too slow

Hey guys, new here to Android and it millions of bells and whistles....
I have a question, the camera takes agreat pictures, provided that the camera and subject are perfectly still. Any type of movement and you are left with a blur.
I was wondering if this shutter speed is a hardware issue or software? If it's software, is there any patch or build that can be added to a temp rooted phone (VISIONary)?
Or a dumb question....is it a setting that I need to tweak???? right now it's all set to HD, superfine, yara yara yara....all the user settings are on max....
Thanks in advance.

I'm not sure if shutter speed is to blame at all. Seems like all the htc cameras frigging suck. I still have my old n97 and ill tell ya, its pics look way better than any htc android phone. I have an awesome point n shoot. But every now and then I have to use my phone, I don't walk around with my cybershot everywhere I go. I don't expect dslr like quality pics. But I think htc should read a page from nokias book.

I also hope there is a tweak for this. I love the G2 but my Vibrant was reigned supreme on everything picture related. Please let there be a fix, including even the samsung galaxy S camera app.

asarousi said:
I also hope there is a tweak for this. I love the G2 but my Vibrant was reigned supreme on everything picture related. Please let there be a fix, including even the samsung galaxy S camera app.
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Wow really???? I tried the vibran, and the main reason I stayed away was because the camera sucked!!!1 and no Flash what gives????
The [email protected] IMHO is far superior taking pics than the vibrant, but neither trump the camera on my BB8900 with 3.2 MP. I over a thousand pics with that phone....some that have been enlarged to 8.5 x 11 and are hanging on my walls....I can't say that I see myself hanging anything taken with the G2...and that is very unfortunate!!!

Crey23 said:
Wow really???? I tried the vibran, and the main reason I stayed away was because the camera sucked!!!1 and no Flash what gives????
The [email protected] IMHO is far superior taking pics than the vibrant, but neither trump the camera on my BB8900 with 3.2 MP. I over a thousand pics with that phone....some that have been enlarged to 8.5 x 11 and are hanging on my walls....I can't say that I see myself hanging anything taken with the G2...and that is very unfortunate!!!
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Absolutely, the Vibrant camera and software is superior, the camera takes a picture immediately. The application is amazing with touch to focus and several quality presets (panorama sport burst, etc.) It does have a lack of flash which sucks but the night mode almost makes up for it. it feels like forever to take a picture with the G2. like OP said, if the subject of the picture moves within the shutter period, a big blur is the result.

Crey23 said:
Wow really???? I tried the vibran, and the main reason I stayed away was because the camera sucked!!!1 and no Flash what gives????
The [email protected] IMHO is far superior taking pics than the vibrant, but neither trump the camera on my BB8900 with 3.2 MP. I over a thousand pics with that phone....some that have been enlarged to 8.5 x 11 and are hanging on my walls....I can't say that I see myself hanging anything taken with the G2...and that is very unfortunate!!!
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dude I had a vibrant. Its camera takes much better pics than the g2. The vibrants video capture is much smoother and better detailed too. Its still not as good as my old n900 and n97.
I'd kill for a nokia branded android phone. I hope meego flops lol.
Also, I had a curve 8900 and a bold 9700. Worse cameras ever unless u were taking pics of documents. I can honestly say that those blackberrys pics were better than a g1 but no where near as nice as the vibrants.

My N1 took very crisp photos but even with little motion the G2 looks like crap there has to be a software fix for this

DToX69 said:
My N1 took very crisp photos but even with little motion the G2 looks like crap there has to be a software fix for this
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well now that u mention it, my n1 did take less blurry pics than my g2; but I think the g2's pics look a hair better as long as the subject doesn't move.
The day will come when nude chicks r jumping on a trampoline and I hope for the g2's sake that those pics wont come out blurry. Otherwise it may meet a blender lol

the G2 has the best camera i have used in a long time on a phone. i have had 6 phones this year alone and the G2 has the best camera out of all of them, and it has flash and a dedicated button on the side. vibrant was one of the phones i had in the past and the lack of flash and dedicated button really bugged me after a while. odds are once we get custom ROMs and CM6 there will be improvements on the camera including touch to focus(the only thing i liked about the vibrant)

DToX69 said:
My N1 took very crisp photos but even with little motion the G2 looks like crap there has to be a software fix for this
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Same with every phone I've ever had... if you move it the pictures suck.

what happens if you disable the autofocus?
This could improve the pictures.

[Q] A Suggestion!?

Well I'm not a developer myself, but I was thinking that someone should make a (app/rom/ ADD A FEATURE) where there is zero shutter lag technology like the mt 4g slide. Idk if its possible, but its just a suggestion.
What do you think?

You can do that in your camera settings on gingerbread ROM's. It doesnt focus or anything, just takes an instant picture, still decent quality though.

lowandbehold said:
You can do that in your camera settings on gingerbread ROM's. It doesnt focus or anything, just takes an instant picture, still decent quality though.
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Sorry OP thats a feature of the MT4GS's camera and I think the Senation has instant to. Like the above poster said take off the focus for a similar experience, it's still won't be as fast or nice looking though. Considering HTC has stepped their game up in the camera department.

[Q] Does camera really sucks ?

Hi,
so i'm looking for any information about Nexus 4, as i'm trying to get one, but i see in some posts that the camera sucks... I also check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 and i would know if anyone could post a pic before/after the mod. Just to see what is the real pic quality.
Thanks !

A lot more noise compared to gf s3
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005445&highlight=camera

Sucks is a pretty strong word. There are plenty of sample pics in the N4 forums so do a search or simply look through the threads in General.
There is a lot of noise in low light... but this is common with tiny sensors. In good light it is capable of very good photos, but saturation and sharpening are a bit laid back. As an experienced photographer I actually prefer this as opposed to other cameras that pump these up by default. Always easier to add then to subtract in post.
Compared to the best phoneCam out there (iPhone), the weakest link is the lens. It is exceptionally prone to flare, and resolution tends to fall off steeply in the corners and there is not alot you can do with these in post. All in all I think it is a pretty good camera for a phone, and if you know what you're doing you will get good shots.

I would just say it's mediocre. It's okay in good light but is worthless in low light conditions.
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Coming from a S3, I'm not disappointed.

Coming from a Galaxy Nexus the camera is great.

Coming from a N8, heavily disappointed.
Yah, terrible comparison, I know.

My s3 did have a better camera but I wouldn't say it sucks I still like it a lot and it gets the job done. The only thing I don't like is it keeps auto focusing even if I'm holding it still i prefer to just hold the center blue button to focus and take a picture
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its not as good as the gs2 either. there is a lot of noise, even in daylight. hdr is a must for low light pics. the imagine software in barebones android leaves a lot to be desired.

phermey said:
its not as good as the gs2 either. there is a lot of noise, even in daylight. hdr is a must for low light pics. the imagine software in barebones android leaves a lot to be desired.
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it really does, it creates alot of noise. i had an ipod touch 4g before this and that camera sucked so i thought this would be a huge upgrade, but it really not. i also bought an ipod touch 5g and the 5g's camera is better than the nexus

Jess813 said:
Coming from a S3, I'm not disappointed.
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Please!!!! Coming from a s3, I'm disappointed.
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Seems fine to me.

nbell13 said:
Seems fine to me.
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that picture looks muted. all of the vibrancy of the bright sunny day is gone.
and when you click twice on it for 100% view... there is a slew of noise. the camera is decent from what people say. its the imagings software that leaves a lot to be desired. but... its a dev phone. so what else should we expect?

phermey said:
that picture looks muted. all of the vibrancy of the bright sunny day is gone.
and when you click twice on it for 100% view... there is a slew of noise. the camera is decent from what people say. its the imagings software that leaves a lot to be desired. but... its a dev phone. so what else should we expect?
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I do notice the noise in the sky, I just choose not to care. It's a phone, after all Also it was approaching sunset, wasn't very vibrant anymore to begin with. Sure as hell beats the camera on the Galaxy Nexus.

Is there any app available that can improve the picture quality?

nbell13 said:
Sure as hell beats the camera on the Galaxy Nexus.
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but it isnt as good as my gs2 with old tech
crownua6 said:
Is there any app available that can improve the picture quality?
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i am sure there are apps that will clean it up.

Coming from a htc sensation, same quality. 10% worse maybe. Panorama is rubbish compared to the sensation though.

my Nexus S with 5MP did a better job

Yep, camera isn't good,. Video too. Focus is dodgy on both and the microphones and sound quality on video is ****. The video and audio bit rate is way too low.
Very disappointed coming from a s2.
In fact once the s4 comes out I'm going straight back to Samsung .. Even if it means I don't get the latest android versions.
The n4 is slick but that's about it. Lets face it, it's heavy and quite thick, battery is crap, camera and sound quality is crap, the build quality is questionable.. Mine creaks above the volume and the buttons are loose, it's fragile has no SD card, has no removable battery.
Now the hype has gone its meh.

[Q] Is the G2 camera not good?

I'm looking for switching from Lumia 920 to an Android phone with a good camera like the one in 920. I was close to getting a HTC One but I read horrible stories about purple fringing and so dropped that idea. Then I looked at HTC One X, but it seems to be an outdated phone and so dropped that plan too. All my friends have iPhone or Samsung and so I don't want to get them either.
Finally when I read the reviews for G2 it seemed to be the most perfect phone for me as it's said to have a nice camera, 5 inch display, Android and fast. On top of it AT&T has also promised an early free upgrade for G2. But when I read some of the threads here they talk about the camera being too slow and not good for indoor. I also read the thread about the Xdabbeb Mod and it seems promising but some folks in that same thread say that even after updating with that Mod the camera is still not that good.
So here I'm, so confused now knowing if I should get G2 or not. What's your opinion on G2's Camera? Again I'm looking for a decent camera that could take good pictures like my Lumia 920 whether indoor or outdoor. Any help is greatly appreciated.
(I'm sorry about the long post and for the wrong techy terms that I might have used here)

ratibars said:
I'm looking for switching from Lumia 920 to an Android phone with a good camera like the one in 920. I was close to getting a HTC One but I read horrible stories about purple fringing and so dropped that idea. Then I looked at HTC One X, but it seems to be an outdated phone and so dropped that plan too. All my friends have iPhone or Samsung and so I don't want to get them either.
Finally when I read the reviews for G2 it seemed to be the most perfect phone for me as it's said to have a nice camera, 5 inch display, Android and fast. On top of it AT&T has also promised an early free upgrade for G2. But when I read some of the threads here they talk about the camera being too slow and not good for indoor. I also read the thread about the Xdabbeb Mod and it seems promising but some folks in that same thread say that even after updating with that Mod the camera is still not that good.
So here I'm, so confused now knowing if I should get G2 or not. What's your opinion on G2's Camera? Again I'm looking for a decent camera that could take good pictures like my Lumia 920 whether indoor or outdoor. Any help is greatly appreciated.
(I'm sorry about the long post and for the wrong techy terms that I might have used here)
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G2 camera is excellent in my opinion. I never had a problem with it or had to install a modded camera on it. I didn't really use it but when I did the pictures were crisp & clear. I'm running AOSP now and the camera is still performing well. It all depends on what you want to use it for. The mods that you mentioned are great and if you ever have problems with the G2 camera flashing one of them will solve it. :victory:

It's exactly like what you've read. Shots with plenty of lighting are fantastic and stunning. Shots with lower lighting (as in indoors) are terrible with the stock camera--it takes way too long to take a shot after you hit the shutter button, as in 5 seconds sometimes. So if you have a moving target, you will miss the moment, or get a blurry mess.
Plus, the denoising algorithm is terrible. Detail on low light shots get lost and people's faces often look like a watercolor painting and unrealistic. Camera mods like xdabebb's help quite a bit, but still the camera has a lot to be desired.
Coming from the Lumia, you will be VERY disappointed.

beezar said:
Coming from the Lumia, you will be VERY disappointed.
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yes he will, but compared to other android phones it is one of the best cameras available, for the next 2-3 months or so. there are some pretty saucy rumors about the s5 camera though.

I used to have an HTC One before picking up the LG G2 earlier this month and it had a great camera. Until it started malfunctioning with the purple/blue/pink tint issue. The low light performance was awesome and the audio recording was the best I've had on a phone due to the dual microphones that it had. I haven't really had a chance to test out the G2's camera much but it's been alright so far. Just disappointed in the low light and microphone performance. The G2 does capture a lot more details with more accurate colors in normal conditions because of the higher megapixel count though.
These are really the only pictures I took to compare the two cameras before I sent in my HTC One to my insurance company:
http://imgur.com/a/OJlTa
Here are some photos I took with my HTC One before the sensor went bad:
http://imgur.com/a/9lRiz

The camera in decent light and with still objects is great. Like others have said, it doesn't do too well in low light conditions or with moving objects. I would expect that with the speed in which the phone takes pictures, that it would do much better with moving objects but you do get a blurry mess. It's a fantastic phone in every other regard, however, the camera could use some improvement.

I love the G2's camera. If you don't think it takes good photos, just look at these. None of these are edited, and straight from the camera. Photobucket reduces the quality a bit as well.

Thanks everyone. So it looks like I can't get pictures as good as the ones I get in my 920 but it seems I can still get decent pictures. I think that should be enough for me. I'm not looking for digital camera quality pictures but just the ability to capture good moments and share it with others. As long as those pictures are not bad I should be ok with that (yes, I'm convincing myself! ).
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I love the G2's camera. If you don't think it takes good photos, just look at these. None of these are edited, and straight from the camera. Photobucket reduces the quality a bit as well.
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Those are nice pictures. Were they taken using a camera MOD?

ratibars said:
Thanks everyone. So it looks like I can't get pictures as good as the ones I get in my 920 but it seems I can still get decent pictures. I think that should be enough for me. I'm not looking for digital camera quality pictures but just the ability to capture good moments and share it with others. As long as those pictures are not bad I should be ok with that (yes, I'm convincing myself! ).
Those are nice pictures. Were they taken using a camera MOD?
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A mix really, some with the stock LG camera, some using the AOSP camera, and some using the 1.5.0 camera mod.

Why should I keep the Turbo?

I've been running into the usual problems, at least, I think. The camera is so slow - I'm coming from a Galaxy S3, and I actually use that phone around the house as a camera because of how much clearer the pictures come out (regardless of the number of megapixels...). The volume on calls is low. And today, using the speakerphone, I hear complaints of an echo immediately.
I'm honestly considering switching to an iPhone - just because the camera and battery life seem on par with this phone, or at least better than what I'm used to with the S3.

Lower the resolution if its an issue.
It takes quite speedy pics at 8mp, just like your s3.
As for battery life, no the iPhone isn't on par.

I've turned the size down on Google's camera, it's frustrating that you can't do it on the stock camera. It doesn't really change the speed for me, too. The speed of focus on the S3 was much, much faster, and that's what resulted in better pictures. Not the size of the picture, or the amount of pixels taken in. Plenty of threads in this forum say the same thing.

Then take it back.
You don't need us to convince you otherwise.
I've taken great pics with this camera. I am not one to subject myself to phones I dont like for the sake of a camera either.
Always buy a device for what it can do, not what it might do in the future. It sounds like there is a device you rather have. You should get it.

You're right. Just trying to see if anyone has had any luck with updates, or any other camera app, before I make the switch. I bought it in the holiday return period timeline, so I technically have until January 15th. I'm not super ready to leave android, but it might end up happening after 6 years.

Is what it is as the saying goes. If an iPhone will make you happier that's what you who should get.

This will provide you with no help at all. But I'm going to toss in one, lol at the iPhone battery being on par with the droid turbo. If camera is your number one thing though, I would suggest the iPhone. No one will deny it takes the best pictures. And if anybody does, there foolish. You can't crop them lol but for a point-and-click nobody does it better

have u try to clean cache ?

I just picked up the phone last night. Im used to the camera automatically focusing. Am I missing something here.

robmc826 said:
I just picked up the phone last night. Im used to the camera automatically focusing. Am I missing something here.
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It does focus automatically, and the nice thing about it is that you can actually pick the object you want it to focus on by moving the shutter. It just takes 1-3 seconds to actually focus properly.

mikethecat said:
It does focus automatically, and the nice thing about it is that you can actually pick the object you want it to focus on by moving the shutter. It just takes 1-3 seconds to actually focus properly.
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Before you switch give this camera app a try. I've had better results with it. Lenovo Super Camera download version 3.6.7. @Demiurge7 has a good explanation of how the resolutions work here.

I'll try it out! Honestly, I really want to like this phone, but the camera is a huge dealbreaker for me. I really love so much else about it, but I'm coming from a phone that had a fantastic camera, even if the sensor isn't technically as high quality.

Because this is the best phone right now and with lollipop it will only get better.
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rhouse1983 said:
Because this is the best phone right now and with lollipop root it will only get better.
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Is there a way to make the double-twist open a different camera app? That would be awesomesauce.

If you want a better camera and want to stay on Android (seriously, iOS will drive you nuts), then you might consider the LG G3. The G3 has a fantastic camera with super fast laser focus and OIS. My wife has a 5s and the G3 definitely takes a better pics - especially indoors. The unlockable bootloader is a nice perk too. Debloated and Xposed, it runs flawlessly. My only gripe is the rear power and volume buttons.