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My camera is working randomly...i get random restarts too :)

Well the same day i got my nexus, after taking few pictures, my camera basicly died, started to give errors or restarts the phone, then it was unable to get on at all.
I did factory reset number of times, nothing happened. I thought it's something hardware and forgot about my camera for a while, just to find today that it works again. I took lots of pictures without any problems, shot some video too.
Later in the day when i decided to try it again, it was giving the same error again as day 1 ("The camera application is not responding" and you can force kill it, then if go to the camera again, it says that it couldnt connect to the camera).
So seems like it's something software related since its randomly working, but if factory reset isn't helping, then what it might be that can be fixed softwarely?
I'm rooted now. Still the stock rom.
p.s.
the phone also restarts when i mount the SD card and start copying lots of files and randomly restarts at other occasions too, without any obvious reasons, even when just sitting.
Other than that the phone is great
hopefully its all software that can be fixed though!

Sounds to me like there's something buggy on ya SD card. Id reformat the SD card if ya haven't already and run it empty for a bit to see if the problem persists... I think the most forgotten fix for things if they haven't figured it out is SD card, a lot of issues can come from the SD card, not saying ievery issue is the SD card, but ya be surprised how a card can wack phone out.
Sounds to me like its when your phones accessing the SD card...

yeah makes sense but
i've formatted it many times, and the camera doesnt work even without it (doesnt even start)
btw it's not the original card, but my old one from my HTC HD
the camera is supposed to work and without a SD card inserted right?

Fking1 said:
yeah makes sense but
i've formatted it many times, and the camera doesnt work even without it (doesnt even start)
btw it's not the original card, but my old one from my HTC HD
the camera is supposed to work and without a SD card inserted right?
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I meant keep card in it, just empty without files, formatted and see what happens

i've tried that, doesnt help

Hi,
try formatting SD card with Panasonic SD Formatting Tool,it writes back the partition table and could help. For me worked, I had an issue with gallery, surely related to SD card, and now works well.
Bye

what settings to use to format it?
what fat, cluster size?
i've formated it bunch of times with the windows vista tool, fat32 and the default cluster size (i think) but it didnt help.
And if i recall correctly it was crashing the camera and with SD card out of the phone

yeah just tried again
even with the card out, none of the camera using applications starts, including the camera, barcode scanner and 3d compass
the later 2 dont even take pictures, so they dont need the sd card at all and still they dont work
what else it might be? im getting some other applications crashes from time to time, seems that my phone isnt very stable. And it's stock...huh

I suggest sending it back for repair/replacement. Could very possibly be the result of bad blocks in ram.

You mentioned it isn't the original SD card the phone came with. Why don't you try the original card then, and see if it is the actual card, or the phone that is the problem.

Clarkster said:
You mentioned it isn't the original SD card the phone came with. Why don't you try the original card then, and see if it is the actual card, or the phone that is the problem.
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i would have done that long time ago if i had it, this is the only card i have handy at the moment
but it makes the same problem with the card pulled out, so it isn't the card for sure

do u tihnk that there is any chance reflashing the rom would fix it?
any records of factory roms being buggy for just particular devices?

Okay...first off you said it's an older card, you could have bad sectors on your card, some of the older cards only have a read/write cycle of a couple thousand before fail. Second you can't run the camera app without the sd card. Third formatting the card so many times helps you count down those read/write cycles on your card. I'd be pretty confident in saying that your problems would go away after getting a new card. Hope this helped
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llxxjinxxll said:
Okay...first off you said it's an older card, you could have bad sectors on your card, some of the older cards only have a read/write cycle of a couple thousand before fail. Second you can't run the camera app without the sd card. Third formatting the card so many times helps you count down those read/write cycles on your card. I'd be pretty confident in saying that your problems would go away after getting a new card. Hope this helped
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would be great if its just that
But what do u get you when you try to start the camera app with SD card out
Does it hangs and crashes and you need to force kill it or?

yup....just tried it, i popped my card out rebooted and started camera app, and i got a force close with no option to wait

that's great man! It means that it could actually be from the stupid card!
thank you so much!

uninstall market updates

Devastatin said:
uninstall market updates
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m? hows that supposed to help?

Well i tried with 2 different cards, it still gives the very same problem
it isnt the card
im with froyo now, and that doesnt fix it either
do you think if the cyanogen rom may change something about this?

[Q] how many apps will note be able handle ?

hi
I face phone restarts once or twice a day
I have 200 apps including 4to 8 HD games
I have 16Gb class four SD card
During these restsrts if i remove the sd card then everything goes
Normal.
Should i go for class 6 memory card
Or uninstall more apps
I have 10Gb free space in sd
1gb free system memory
And 2 gb free phone memory
Wat should be done

Two restarts a day is not normal - only time I had that was with a very early ROM. Have you tried different kernel or ROM?
Are most of your apps on the SD card? Seems that there are some dodgy SD cards out there.
What I would do is backup all of the apps, reformat the card and then load your favourite apps back on to it and see how it goes. Do you use 200 apps regularly? Just use the favourites for a while. Also maybe try a different SD card?

TempusFudgeIt said:
Two restarts a day is not normal - only time I had that was with a very early ROM. Have you tried different kernel or ROM?
Are most of your apps on the SD card? Seems that there are some dodgy SD cards out there.
What I would do is backup all of the apps, reformat the card and then load your favourite apps back on to it and see how it goes. Do you use 200 apps regularly? Just use the favourites for a while. Also maybe try a different SD card?
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am still with my stock rom
all the possible apps moved to SD card , i just use those apps once in 2 or 3 days
only 4-6 apps i use daily .
should i go for class 6 SD card , currently am using transcend , should i try someother brand , if yes which one

Transcend is good brand. I've used it and a few other commercial ones (don't want to advertise!)
I have a Class 6 and Class 10 (and a cheap Class 6 one that I think is really only class 4 - it plays up and pixelates on videos)
If you can afford it definitely go Class 6 minimum. (PS I used Class 10 interchangeably on my DLSR for HD videos so I know it works well)

I would recommend formatting the card from the device itself and try again. Even 500 apps shouldnt crash the sevice. I have found several root apps that can crash the device but normally it shouldnt happen.
Transcend are a good brand and I wouldnt worry too much about the card unless its damaged.
The phones can be funny at times about the filenames in tye root of the card and i have found corrupt videos and images can sometimes crash the media scanner.
If youre capable, try get a dmesg log and logcat which might be more helpful if the problem persists.
Hope you have more luck now.
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SD Card Help

Hi guys,
I need your help becasue this looks very weird to me. This is my situation: I have a I-9500 (Stock ROM 4.3, no root) with Kingston SD Card 16 GB Class 4. On the SD I keep only my music in one folder, nothing else. Also because I have a lot of music, more than 14 GB, the card is almost full. Sometimes the back of the phone where the SD slot is, becomes to warm up a lot and battery starts to drain very fast. It has happened to me in different situations (and also prior to update to 4.3): once I was indeed listening to music, so using the card, but another time I was taking photos and watching a video saved on the phone. Like I said, I save everything (ecxept music) on the phone.
To solve, I have to either take the card out or format it in the phone. Once I do either of them, the phone cools off and battery drain goes back to normal. Once it even went into a boot loop, before I realized I had to take the card out.
We have 3 options:
1. it's the phone
2. it is something in my music folder (I have photos of the cover albums, which shows up in Gallery... could this be the cause?)
2. it is the SD card brand, capacity, class... I read on many forums about problems with certain brands, even though, if I recall correctly, it affected mostly 64 GB cards...
I want to add I have a Note I-5100 with a Sandisk SD 32GB Class 4 and never had any problem, I want to swap the two, but I know that even if something happens, it will not be immediate and I prefer to have the big one in the note. If I knew changing SD would solve it, I would go for it immediately, but I would like to know what you think first. I have also read Samsung SD cards perform better in Samsung phones. Is this true?
Thank you very much for your help!
I just noticed that many album folders have a file named n7p_art, which is created by the music software (I use stock Samsung Music Player). could this be the cause?

Help Please! MAJOR SD card issues!

New to XDA, not new to Android.
Phone: Moto X Play
Rom: Stock Marshmallow 6.1
Issue: SD Card disappears randomly (formatted as internal storage!!!)
Bootloader never unlocked, never rooted.
I have a sandisk 32gb micro sd card that works when I first start the phone. The problem is that it will randomly, completely, disappear.
Now I'm not, IMO, a complete noob. I am fairly (99%) sure it is indeed the sd card at fault. Ok, not an issue, I can always replace it with a new one.
The issue is, of course, that EVERYTHING is on my SD card, most importantly, my photos.
Even without accessing a file manager (phone idle, browsing web, playing games) the sd card will eventually fail leaving it inaccessible until the phone is restarted. When attempting to access my photos, which is what I need most, it fails MUCH quicker.
Having not used the "Google Photos" app before (just Gallery), I am not at all sure if my photos were ever backed up online, If they were, I'm not sure where to look.
Trying to access them via usb, wifi file transfer, bt tranfer, and even from file managers on the phone itself, result in an almost immediate failure of the sd card. 5 seconds or so tops.
The card is formatted as "Internal Storage" and I have not been able to find a way to get a computer or anything else to read it, and I would imagine for security reasons, there is no way.
Here's the question: Is there any way to get photos off the sd card, that wont take me three million years in 5 second intervals, while having to restart the phone every bleeping time the sd card fails to get it to recognize the sd card again?
Suggestions please!
Thanks in advance,
Canabian

Canabian420 said:
New to XDA, not new to Android.
Phone: Moto X Play
Rom: Stock Marshmallow 6.1
Issue: SD Card disappears randomly (formatted as internal storage!!!)
Bootloader never unlocked, never rooted.
I have a sandisk 32gb micro sd card that works when I first start the phone. The problem is that it will randomly, completely, disappear.
Now I'm not, IMO, a complete noob. I am fairly (99%) sure it is indeed the sd card at fault. Ok, not an issue, I can always replace it with a new one.
The issue is, of course, that EVERYTHING is on my SD card, most importantly, my photos.
Even without accessing a file manager (phone idle, browsing web, playing games) the sd card will eventually fail leaving it inaccessible until the phone is restarted. When attempting to access my photos, which is what I need most, it fails MUCH quicker.
Having not used the "Google Photos" app before (just Gallery), I am not at all sure if my photos were ever backed up online, If they were, I'm not sure where to look.
Trying to access them via usb, wifi file transfer, bt tranfer, and even from file managers on the phone itself, result in an almost immediate failure of the sd card. 5 seconds or so tops.
The card is formatted as "Internal Storage" and I have not been able to find a way to get a computer or anything else to read it, and I would imagine for security reasons, there is no way.
Here's the question: Is there any way to get photos off the sd card, that wont take me three million years in 5 second intervals, while having to restart the phone every bleeping time the sd card fails to get it to recognize the sd card again?
Suggestions please!
Thanks in advance,
Canabian
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Format the card using computer (Not quick format )
Quick format didn't worked for me.
And don't make card as internal, use it as portable

with the sd card in the phone, go to settings - apps, show system apps. then select External Storage, force stop it or clear it cache. do the same to Media Storage. reboot the phone, once everything loaded wait for 5-10 minutes especially if you have lots of files in a large sd card. once that done, connect the phone to your pc (use mtp if i'm not mistaken) and hopefully you can now access the internal (sd card) contents.

jerryn70 said:
Format the card using computer (Not quick format )
Quick format didn't worked for me.
And don't make card as internal, use it as portable
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This will HOPEFULLY resolve the issue AFTER I get my photos off the card!
What I need help with is getting roughly 10 gigs of data off a card that works intermittently for roughly 5 seconds at a time....
-Canabian

pijes said:
with the sd card in the phone, go to settings - apps, show system apps. then select External Storage, force stop it or clear it cache. do the same to Media Storage. reboot the phone, once everything loaded wait for 5-10 minutes especially if you have lots of files in a large sd card. once that done, connect the phone to your pc (use mtp if i'm not mistaken) and hopefully you can now access the internal (sd card) contents.
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I will try this and report back.
One question... If the card is formatted as internal storage, clearing data for external storage and media storage will not cause the phone to "forget" the sd card will it?
Thanks,
Canabian.

I think I have come up with a solution to my own problem. If this works satisfactorily, I will let others know as this may help many other people facing this issue.
I am on a linux pc. I am going to try to use RSYNC to copy the files over. This SHOULD copy files over, deleting them from the source folder as it goes. Once the sd card fails, which it WILL, once I reboot the phone and start rsync once again, it should "resume" where it left off.
Here is the command for anyone else that may need it:
rsync -v --progress --remove-source-files --recursive --append-verify /path/to/source/files /path/to/destination/folder
Hopefully this works the way I hope it will. Will post back with my results when I can.
Thanks again,
Canabian.

I had the same problem, and the solution (that maybe someone posted somewhere in the internet) is using a faster SD card. Since I switched to a sandisk extreme pro, the problem disappeared. Be careful, though, when using Samsung SD cards: my moto x play doesn't like them much (I had to replace them twice before buying the sandisk; in some way the partition tables of the Samsung SD cards were damaged, plus they became read-only, resulting in two unusable cards).

jauffre said:
I had the same problem, and the solution (that maybe someone posted somewhere in the internet) is using a faster SD card. Since I switched to a sandisk extreme pro, the problem disappeared. Be careful, though, when using Samsung SD cards: my moto x play doesn't like them much (I had to replace them twice before buying the sandisk; in some way the partition tables of the Samsung SD cards were damaged, plus they became read-only, resulting in two unusable cards).
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which samsung model did you use? I just replaced my normal class 10 strontium card yesterday with a brand new samsung evo plus u1 card and formatted it as internal storage. so far the phone feels a bit snappy with this card.

dude search a little in this section and i hope u find the fix.i just let u know that our device has very sensitive sd pins and many users had accidentally bented them and didn't know the problem!
i hope u are not one of them!so if you are lucky,next time u put the sd be veeeery careful!i personally didn't put it out from the time i bought it...

pijes said:
which samsung model did you use? I just replaced my normal class 10 strontium card yesterday with a brand new samsung evo plus u1 card and formatted it as internal storage. so far the phone feels a bit snappy with this card.
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It was just a Samsung Evo class 10. The strange thing is that I tried also a Sandisk of the same class, which gave me only the "external memory missing" problem, while the Samsung ones became just unusable plastic. But maybe I should try better Samsung SD cards.

SD card slowing my phone?

I noticed when using "selective focus" in Camera app that phone freezes for about 10 sec. Also when I am using Gallery app, phone freezes when I try to delete picture. Note that I set Camera to store pictures in SD card.
And now phone is not recognizing SD card at all.
My question is, if it is possible that SD card is causing my phone to freeze and if someone had similar problem to please tell me how you fix it?

Zato-1 said:
I noticed when using "selective focus" in Camera app that phone freezes for about 10 sec. Also when I am using Gallery app, phone freezes when I try to delete picture. Note that I set Camera to store pictures in SD card.
And now phone is not recognizing SD card at all.
My question is, if it is possible that SD card is causing my phone to freeze and if someone had similar problem to please tell me how you fix it?
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We had this issue a while back on LG. Yes if you have a substandard card.
Moving apps and photos and such to a slower substandard card can cause lags in the system believe it or not

TheMadScientist said:
We had this issue a while back on LG. Yes if you have a substandard card.
Moving apps and photos and such to a slower substandard card can cause lags in the system believe it or not
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Thanks for reply, now that my SD card is dead, after removing it from phone, my s8 works perfectly.
A question mr/mrs Mad Scientist: do you use micro SD card on your phone and what class is it?
Also what are your thoughts on SD cards, now that we have phones with bigger storage?

Zato-1 said:
Thanks for reply, now that my SD card is dead, after removing it from phone, my s8 works perfectly.
A question mr/mrs Mad Scientist: do you use micro SD card on your phone and what class is it?
Also what are your thoughts on SD cards, now that we have phones with bigger storage?
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I did i got a samsung Evo 128 GB class 10 never had any issues out of it.Also had a 32 gb evo before this
I recently came into a jailboken PS Vita So I installed the SD card on it for all my games and no lags their either
But about 45 gb free Im a stickler for free space so I go my bare minimum music i listen too many apps
and what ever else and got like 35 gb free so No issues there
I even use it for download as its fater than my pc normally then just transfer what ever and delete
Most of my photos are backed up on google so no worrys there
So with the increased storage even at a 64 gb model Is more than plenty for my day to day life If it ever runs low Im sure I can clean enough up

But in the past slower or dying cards and such take time to read write if you have moved a bunch of active apps to sd that gets compounded and bottle-necked on read/write speeds Specialy when it comes to videos and big files or games