Riding the Nightly Train, or Stable to Stable - Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just a quick question. What is the best path to follow for running cm7-keep updating to the newest nightly build, or jump from stable build to stable build?
Thanks In Advance!

Jimbo67 said:
Just a quick question. What is the best path to follow for running cm7-keep updating to the newest nightly build, or jump from stable build to stable build?
Thanks In Advance!
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Personal preference my friend....Nightlies are new and exciting, but sometimes lead to ugh oh's and nandroid restores and reflashing recovery

Current nightlies are offering marginally better battery life, however you're giving up your ability to connect via usb (at the moment, however I haven't gotten confirmation of that with N67), and live wallpapers. I'm on the nightlies for the battery life. USB and live wallpapers are not an issue for me.....If I do need to USB connect, that's what nandroids are for.

hockeyfamily737 said:
Personal preference my friend....Nightlies are new and exciting, but sometimes lead to ugh oh's and nandroid restores and reflashing recovery
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Ha Ha Ha-After what you worked me through last night, NO more excitement! LOL!
Thanks Again!

Jimbo67 said:
Ha Ha Ha-After what you worked me through last night, NO more excitement! LOL!
Thanks Again!
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It's all good....That's how we learn! Next time, you'll be on the other end of that problem, walking someone else through it.

hockeyfamily737 said:
Current nightlies are offering marginally better battery life, however you're giving up your ability to connect via usb (at the moment, however I haven't gotten confirmation of that with N67), and live wallpapers. I'm on the nightlies for the battery life. USB and live wallpapers are not an issue for me.....If I do need to USB connect, that's what nandroids are for.
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Nicely put! I would like to gain better battery life, but the issue wont really matter once I stop screwing around with settings and updates, and the like! But wait, can any of us really ever STOP! Argggggggggggg!

hockeyfamily737 said:
It's all good....That's how we learn! Next time, you'll be on the other end of that problem, walking someone else through it.
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Yes indeed, I guess that is what it's all about! You taught me ALOT!

Jimbo67 said:
Nicely put! I would like to gain better battery life, but the issue wont really matter once I stop screwing around with settings and updates, and the like! But wait, can any of us really ever STOP! Argggggggggggg!
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Hello My Name is n0xx and I'm and Flashaholic!
Haha
Not only with my nook but with my Droid Inc also..

Jimbo67 said:
Just a quick question. What is the best path to follow for running cm7-keep updating to the newest nightly build, or jump from stable build to stable build?
Thanks In Advance!
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Yeah, nightlies rock. I'm a flashaholic as well. Furthermore, nightlies are 2.3.4 based, whereas stable (so far) is 2.3.3 base. 2.3.4 seemed to provide me a much smoother user experience.

hockeyfamily737 said:
Current nightlies are offering marginally better battery life, however you're giving up your ability to connect via usb (at the moment, however I haven't gotten confirmation of that with N67), and live wallpapers. I'm on the nightlies for the battery life. USB and live wallpapers are not an issue for me.....If I do need to USB connect, that's what nandroids are for.
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Confirmed, no regular USB connection with N67, but you can still connect using the NookColorUMS app from another XDA thread. I find the nightlies to be very smooth running off uSD.

After the first stable I have only installed stable builds. I actually use my device too much to deal with the 'minor' problems that arise from the nightlies. Any features that are being tested in the nightlies will eventually make it to the stable builds. Patience is a virtue.

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Best Roms by Experience??

Figured i find out which roms you guys out there have tried and what your experience have been,
For myself
i have tried out any i can find but have always wiped cleaned, and found that the most stable from my experience has been
5.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N1
any thoughts and or comments are appreciated
and thank guys working on roms
for all your work
regards,
M3manny
Stock ROM... no issues at all...
Sense UI/Cyanogen..currently running Cyanogen till Sense UI gets cleaned up
Normally, I am one to root as soon as it is unboxed, however, with this phone, I have not rooted it yet.
Mainly for the fact that it is working so well, I can't see why...
Now, I LOVE the dev's here and WILL root my phone once some of these ROM's are a bit more stable. I'm not saying they are bad, just that the features I use regularly are not working as well as I would like based on feedback.
As always though, the Dev's here step up and do a fantastic job getting things done and working, I will be compelled to root and mod... I can't wait for that day!
Talderon said:
Stock ROM... no issues at all...
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Limping on one foot with half a brain is a non issue.
britoso said:
Limping on one foot with half a brain is a non issue.
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Thanks for letting me know... I'll be sure to watch for ya...
In all seriousness though, the stock ROM, at the moment, has its benefits over those that are out now.
Mainly, everything works (at least for me).
BT, Wi-Fi, Camera/Flash, sync and the list goes on and on...
Once ERE36B is release OTA, I am sure most of these custom ROM issues will clear up and there will be more reason to root and flash.
For now, just going to keep watching the forums.
I made it a whole day on the Desire Alpha 10, but the battery life was killing me. I really like the HTC Exchange integration and all the Sense widgets, but there were too many other trade offs.
I'm back on cynanogen. It's not flashy but everything works.
Not trying to Convince you to root your phone, or make an argument here, but in my own experience. The custom N1 ROMs that are up for grab right now are pretty stable. It does everything the stock ROM can do and more. Heck even Modaco's alpha version of the desire ROM is near perfect.
As far as picking my favorite though, of have to give it up to Enomther, and Cyanogen's N1 ROMs and Modaco's Desire ROM.
Can't thank these guys enough and all the devs here, that's making this a fun ride for all of us!
Talderon said:
Thanks for letting me know... I'll be sure to watch for ya...
In all seriousness though, the stock ROM, at the moment, has its benefits over those that are out now.
Mainly, everything works (at least for me).
BT, Wi-Fi, Camera/Flash, sync and the list goes on and on...
Once ERE36B is release OTA, I am sure most of these custom ROM issues will clear up and there will be more reason to root and flash.
For now, just going to keep watching the forums.
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For me, Alpha10 Desire ROM FTW.
Does 10.1 work in the desire rom?
Yes sir it does.
temperbad said:
Does 10.1 work in the desire rom?
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Which ROM to choose?

Which is a best rom for zte blade? Is there anywhere an unbranded version?
I'd say Ginger Stir Fry is far the best rom for Blade at the moment, however you can give CyanogenMod a try, but if you consider yourself as an average user, then GSF might be the best rom for you.
Agreed
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Laccnow said:
I'd say Ginger Stir Fry is far the best rom for Blade at the moment, however you can give CyanogenMod a try, but if you consider yourself as an average user, then GSF might be the best rom for you.
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Sounds good. I previously had JJ and am now on SS, but am looking for a stable 2.3 based ROM. CyanogenMod still has some issues (the stable 7.0.3 release reboots when a USB charger is connected, to name one), though the nightly builds of 7.1 are better I hear. Think I'll give GSF a go if that is considered the most stable ROM right now - speed and stability are my primary concerns.
Guess the official guide is this one.
CM after N127 is excellent.
k0zmic said:
CM after N127 is excellent.
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Fair enough, but how does it compare to GSF?
Nitsson said:
Fair enough, but how does it compare to GSF?
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The main plus is the CM extras. It seems faster generally but scrolling isn't quite as smooth as GSF IMO. Battery life for me has improved as well since N127, it's probably not quite as good as GSF though however I think that's more to do with the .35 kernel GSF has. In regards to stability since 7.1 I've found it as stable as GSF.
Overall, I think they're both excellent in different ways. There is no 'better', it ultimately depends on what you want.
Thanks the feedback. I'm opting for stability, so I installed GSF. Very nice so far, I'll know more as I use it over the next few weeks.
Although I'm using GB Stir Fry, really missing CM and its extra settings. Actually the biggest and perhaps only advantage of GB, is its wifi driver. Even wbaw admitted, without it, he wouldn't even had considered to start developing the Stir Fry series.
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Although I'm using GB Stir Fry, really missing CM and its extra settings. Actually the biggest and perhaps only advantage of GB, is its wifi driver. Even wbaw admitted, without it, he wouldn't even had considered to start developing the Stir Fry series.
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Not having used CM, what are these extra settings? And for that matter, why can't the CM developer use the wifi driver used in GSF? Is it proprietary?
Nitsson said:
Not having used CM, what are these extra settings? And for that matter, why can't the CM developer use the wifi driver used in GSF? Is it proprietary?
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Probably because they haven't got the source for it.
Im trying Elitemovils rom right now but have been using CM7 for some time after a month of experimentation on other roms.
My initial comments are that its super smooth and everything works nicely.
He has even added a mod now to put power tools in the notification bar which looks very cool and is ofc super handy.
GSF works brilliantly for me and I'm hoping wbaw will be continuing to develop it here
Thanks guys, now I'm on CM 147. But there are some bugs: missing elements in some games, wifi doesn't come back on after the phone wakes up. But there are some workarounds
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GSF works brilliantly for me and I'm hoping wbaw will be continuing to develop it here
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They've lifted the ban on his MoDaCo account, so he may return there.
nferenc said:
Thanks guys, now I'm on CM 147. But there are some bugs: missing elements in some games, wifi doesn't come back on after the phone wakes up. But there are some workarounds
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Doesn't sound like something I'd want to play with... each to their own, but I favour stability, functionality and speed in that order
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They've lifted the ban on his MoDaCo account, so he may return there.
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Not to gossip, but do you know what he was banned?
I currently have GSF Beta 15.
1)
Is there any reason to update to Beta 17?
Is the leaked kernel worth it?
2)
Are there still GPS problems in CM7 as it is working perfectely with GSF.
Yeah, what happend to wbaw?
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Yeah, what happend to wbaw?
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He's back.
CM-7.0.3 Stable.
Good for standard use

[Q] Latest, hottest ROM

I was on Legendary and then SimpleROM but I'm ready for a change as long as it is stable (like the ones I just mentioned). I tried reading the threads but they keep changing and some are very long.
Just wondering if someone knows since I have been on only this 2 ROMs for nearly a year.
tsp
Try out CM9.
It's pretty popping fresh.
Also, MIUI.
And in the future, we discourage best ROM threads.
Depends on how you use your phone. CM9 beta 0 is stable for a daily ROM. But If your a power user like on your phone nonstop then you will find yourself wanting a charger.
Also gotta ask the question to you want to move to the MTD side.... best bet is to read up on everything, then test out different roms till you find one that you like.
Sent from a CM9 powered Epic.
If you want a good stable Rom the marcusant rom version3 and the shake and bake theme are a nice combo. Also cm9 is also kinda nice but its still in beta
Threads are long because everyone is trying to butt hurt everyone else, and there are a lot of useless postings (such as this one). Just be sure whatever rom you use has the appropriate thanks, documentation and GPL reference or you will get blasted even as just a user.
Just try them all, go nuts, have fun! Just be sure to do whatever you can to brick your device so you can provide yourself with the logical reasoning to upgrade as quickly as possible.
Sent from my, is it safe to claim, personally semi-tweaked (but not shared) and still therefore kanged??? sammiEpic running some CM9b0 shiznizzle.....
Thanks to all that offered good advise and options.
And to clarify a few points:
1 - I did not ask what was the best ROM (I know better than that).
2 - I respect the advise of the users here and do not wish to try them all. It simply takes too much time when all the ROMs say to wipe everything clean including data. It's a very long process putting everything back the way it was. The last 2 updates I did did not update my programs so I had to install them all manually plus their data. And as some of you may know, restoring from backup is not always a good thing to do.
So... I really appreciate those that provided a few options for me to try. Will do soon. And btw I alway provide feedback to the thread on the ROMs that I try. Comes from being a technology administrator for many years.
Thanks again,
tsp
CleanGB
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I second that, CLEANGB!
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CM9
If you need battery life then use cm7.
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CM9! Seriously it's ****ing ICS and you will be surprised by how stable it is. There are bugs but as a daily driver I personally haven't run into any.
tsperez said:
I was on Legendary and then SimpleROM but I'm ready for a change as long as it is stable (like the ones I just mentioned). I tried reading the threads but they keep changing and some are very long.
Just wondering if someone knows since I have been on only this 2 ROMs for nearly a year.
tsp
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In order for someone to answer this you have to let people know how you use your phone. Are you hooled on the Touchwiz interface? Then it would require some work and getting similiar apps for CM7, CM9 or any other AOSP ROM. If you just want to update to the newer firmware and like how your phone is running now, then Sleeper or CleanGB. If you need more app space then you want to go to an MTD ROM like CleanGB MTD. At least read the OP's of any ROM you are considering to know all the features.
tsperez said:
I was on Legendary and then SimpleROM but I'm ready for a change as long as it is stable (like the ones I just mentioned). I tried reading the threads but they keep changing and some are very long.
Just wondering if someone knows since I have been on only this 2 ROMs for nearly a year.
tsp
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im running marcusants nexus s port and its really stable and everything besides voice search works
CM9 ICS
I've been using CM9 ICS since alpha 2 and I had to Odin my phone back to stock for some weird reason. It was so strange seeing the stock interface after using ICS. "I can't swipe notifications away? What is this vertical scrolling? Bloatware???" So yeah, beta 0 seems good enough for me for now, plus the battery life is way better than stock.
CM9 for sure. The only real issue was the phantom voicemail but there is a fix for it now (as of today).
Loving the CM9. It's like a new phone!
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Tried CM9 and it was allot more stable than I expected. However it still needs work and is not as solid as stock. The lag overall started to annoy me along with other things like garbled text messaging, 4G issues, occasional reboots, and no visual voicemail, but the devs are doing a great job.
I am on Clean GB right now and will jump back to Thunderhawk when Random updates to El30.
Dont flame my opinion, please.
Jed Dignazio said:
Tried CM9 and it was allot more stable than I expected. However it still needs work and is not as solid as stock. The lag overall started to annoy me along with other things like garbled text messaging, 4G issues, occasional reboots, and no visual voicemail, but the devs are doing a great job.
I am on Clean GB right now and will jump back to Thunderhawk when Random updates to El30.
Dont flame my opinion, please.
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What about CM7 Beta? have you given that a try?
XxLostSoulxX said:
What about CM7 Beta? have you given that a try?
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Hmm, No. I tried the RC0, but not the Beta. I think I am picky and just need everything to work as good as stock or better.
Jed Dignazio said:
Hmm, No. I tried the RC0, but not the Beta. I think I am picky and just need everything to work as good as stock or better.
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CM7 is 99% on the dot to being stock if not better haha try it out it says MMS may be unreliable it may not download sometimes but after clicking a few times it works but i had this on stock as well haha
XxLostSoulxX said:
CM7 is 99% on the dot to being stock if not better haha try it out it says MMS may be unreliable it may not download sometimes but after clicking a few times it works but i had this on stock as well haha
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My mms only works on cm9/variants.. Not stock, and lol
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Do you guys want an updated ICS build, what kind?

Exactly what the thread title says...
As most of you should already be aware I have a gingerbread build that I try to provide something close to a monthly update on (plus or minus a few days). What I would like to know tonight is if y'all would like something similar with ICS?
Just like the gingerbread builds this won't have a lot of progression and I won't be trying to really create anything so much as compile y'all something (hopefully stable) to use if you so choose.
Assuming the answer to the first question is yes, do y'all have a preference for the build (cm9, aokp, etc)?
A release candidate of CM9 would be nice or if there's an ICS rom of ParanoidAndroid, then that would be great as well, I like having proper tablet UI for apps.
Has hash already updated his CM9 kernel?
ice cold sandwich by Lord Clocken From the HTC dhd trend is an aokp ice cold sandwich ,it has great features like kill all back button.
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Every enhancement
the sg7 enhancement, linaro, supercharge, oc'ed kernal
and nothing else.
Base it on the least flashy ROM. I want to change, and add in things as I see fit, and I want the most basic version of android to do it from. I want it the fastest it can go, so all the enhancements and nothing else added in.
You can port sense rom to our Kindle???
All of the roms I have tried have these really annoying bugs. In the ROM I have now, the WIFI keeps dropping, even when i'm in the middle of a download.
If you guys can make a simple, stable ROM without all the bells and whistles (swipe left, themes, etc), that would make me (and a lot of other people) very happy.
Trafford Devil said:
Has hash already updated his CM9 kernel?
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With a little bit of tweaks I'm pretty sure we can use the newer JB kernel (they're both 3.y based but the newer one has the working charge indicator and screen driver.
P8ntBal1551 said:
Every enhancement
the sg7 enhancement, linaro, supercharge, oc'ed kernal
and nothing else.
Base it on the least flashy ROM. I want to change, and add in things as I see fit, and I want the most basic version of android to do it from. I want it the fastest it can go, so all the enhancements and nothing else added in.
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This is sort of where I was already leaning; was considering basing something off of the loosethiskin builds that TWA was providing before cm10 but I wanted some opinions first as just like my cm7 rom I won't be the one running it (I'm using cm10 and it's going to remain that way)
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You can port sense rom to our Kindle???
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No; others may be capable and or willing to do this. I personally don't touch binary ports; partly cause I don't want to and partly cause I don't know how to do binary ports (I haven't researched it do to the fact that I just didn't want to do it; source code for me)
Techngro said:
All of the roms I have tried have these really annoying bugs. In the ROM I have now, the WIFI keeps dropping, even when i'm in the middle of a download.
If you guys can make a simple, stable ROM without all the bells and whistles (swipe left, themes, etc), that would make me (and a lot of other people) very happy.
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I haven't experienced any of those issues but one thing I can point out is wifi issues are most likely kernel related; I'm most definitely not a kernel dev so anything I do will have something close to hashcodes current kernel (assuming it won't work as is)
Hi Sblood,
Funny, I was just thinking about this today, wondering if anybody that's capable is willing to take the time to do this. While I'm pretty much satisified with my JB rom, I really like ICS and I was very happy with twa_priv's CM9 builds.
I watch a lot of video from CNN and that's flash, the JB roms are finally giving me pretty good performance with this but I also like to watch video from ESPN and I haven't figured out a way to get that to work. With ICS, it prompts you to choose a player to watch the videos, like MX Player or Dice Player, with JB, it just tells me that the content is unavailable. That's probably the biggest thing I miss from ICS. I still keep a nandroid of twa's last CM9 release under a different gmail address and update any apps from Play Store every couple of weeks and then I OD on ESPN vids & Flash stuff, tonight I had 17 apps to update. LOL
For me, it's a tradeoff of JB Google Now for ICS ESPN vids and I'd rather have ESPN videos. So, if you could use twa's CM9 build as a base and hook in Hashcode's newer kernels, say on a monthly basis, that would be awesome & most appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike T
So no new ICS ROM?
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Joey11746 said:
So no new ICS ROM?
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Sorry I've been busy and interest actually seemed much lower than I would have expected so it's been a somewhat lower priority.
I would still love to get it done (if for no other reason than we don't really have a stable/buildable version of ICS) but as it stands I've been having a few issues getting the ICS device repo updated to use the current kernel but I have been trying at least some.
I have to remind you it's the holiday season as well.
A good, stable, release candidate ICS ROM? I can see the appeal. I'd definitely give it a whirl. I'm starting to get tired of instability on a lot of ROMs.
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I'm starting to get tired of instability on a lot of ROMs.
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Well I suggest you put in the work to correct them
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Well I suggest you put in the work to correct them
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You mean report bugs and stuff? Well, they wouldn't exactly be called bugs, more instability. For example, the android browser self closing itself every now and then.
Sblood86 said:
Sorry I've been busy and interest actually seemed much lower than I would have expected so it's been a somewhat lower priority.
I would still love to get it done (if for no other reason than we don't really have a stable/buildable version of ICS) but as it stands I've been having a few issues getting the ICS device repo updated to use the current kernel but I have been trying at least some.
I have to remind you it's the holiday season as well.
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True, still try
Any luck blood?
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Any luck blood?
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That's a joke right; it's been 5 days since you asked this previously, it's still the holiday season and I haven't said anything in regards to something working so it must be I'm just not sure I get the humor in it...
Admittedly I probably shouldn't have created this thread til I had made some more progress but the goal was to find out if people were even interested in ICS in the first place. As I have stated this is still on my project list but let's be serious for a moment; how high of a priority do you really think back tracking to a previous version is? (I'll give you a clue: it's not).
I can tell you this; syncing cm9 and the old Kfire-Android local manifest for it doesn't build (and that's with the old kernel branch), it's not as simple as sync a bunch of folders and compile; I have to actually dig into the code of several repos to sort this out.
Lastly consider that my primary role is as a recovery dev; you know the term 'the plate is full', well I have a platter over here...
Not directly related but on the subject of recovery development; this is where most of my time has gone as of late.
I'd like to see an updated ICS but if it doesn't happen......oh well......I'll wait
.....when you hit the walls of sanity, you have no-where to go.....
Yea I'll wait too. And it was a joke. :c
How about a ROM with similar battery life as the stock Amazon one? Every custom ICS or JB ROM I have tried has not been awesome for battery life. Especially in sleep mode.
I'd like to see a honeycomb ROM that wold be pretty neat

Hi every one Im newbie

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Welcome!. ?
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Hi, me too! It's great to see people still using and especially supporting this phone. I've used Cyanogenmod from the official site for a while and have been testing out different roms on here. It's fun!
Edit: Still figuring out the forums, ha.
newhoa said:
Hi, me too! It's great to see people still using and especially supporting this phone. I've used Cyanogenmod from the official site for a while and have been testing out different roms on here. It's fun!
Edit: Still figuring out the forums, ha.
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Welcome! I assume you mean that you used to use CM back when they used to support us, correct? Because they don't do official builds for us anymore...
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Welcome! I assume you mean that you used to use CM back when they used to support us, correct? Because they don't do official builds for us anymore...
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Yeah, too bad. I used 10.1.3 I think it was for a while. Over the last month or so I've tried a few out here on the boards. The unofficial CM11 is really nice but eats my battery away. I was using one from August, then upgraded last week to the October one and it was much bugier. Right now I'm using SlimKat... I think I like CM better overall but SlimKat is really nice. I've run into a few bugs, the Menu/Home/Back/Search buttons won't light on notification. That's the one feature that seems not to work that I really miss.. But SlimKat is nice enough and gives me twice the battery life as the unofficial CM11.
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Im using CyanFox but lookingforward to Spirit Rom v1.8 Lollipop
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Im using CyanFox but lookingforward to Spirit Rom v1.8 Lollipop
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Ooh, I didn't know anyone was going to do a Lollipop ROM. That's exciting, thanks! Also never heard of CyanFox, I'll have to check that out. I really hope there's a SlimPop (or whatever they call it) ROM for our phone... I'm really loving the performance and battery life on this.
Also, if anyone could help me out... what effect battery life? Is it mostly the apps and base system, or can the kernel itself be a big part of it?

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