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What is the difference. Is it just ppp. Seems like magldr I'd the easiest way to install android or update anything that I've ever tried, never really had any problems with it at all. Just looking for some feedback
tigerz0202 said:
What is the difference. Is it just ppp. Seems like magldr I'd the easiest way to install android or update anything that I've ever tried, never really had any problems with it at all. Just looking for some feedback
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Haven't tried clk, but there is another thread re this same Q, might be of help?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010125
cLK has few extra options. Charge while phone is powered off. Reboot to recovery. Faster boot time. Rom manager works.
But if you're happy with magldr, don't upgrade to clk.
It's not worth it
Thanks for the feedback guys, don't think ill be switching, just didn't wanna miss out on something better if it was, thanks again
drinizi said:
cLK has few extra options. Charge while phone is powered off. Reboot to recovery. Faster boot time. Rom manager works.
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Phone with MAGLDR on cannot be charged when the phone is off? What happen if I accidentally used up every drop of the battery and the battery does not have enough juice to power up the phone? Perhaps cLK is a safer route?
Yup that's the flaw of magldr. But I haven't read in anyone who has actually had to replace their battery because of such so you should be fine.
My hd2 ran out of battery last week so I just plugged it into the charger and after one failed attempt to boot up, it booted all the way.
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Ok this is my run down or two cents.
MAGLDR is way more user friendly as far as flashing CWM. It has several useful options, but a lot of those options are not needed if you have CWM. MAGLDR can boot Android and Windows Phone 7, but is not as elegantly as a native device of the corresponding OS. Size wise MAGLDR is bigger than cLK. MAGLDR uses RMNET for it's data connection. No charging while the device is off. (I theories the no off charging has some kind of correlation to the digitizer going out so often)
CLK is not as user friendly to flash CWM, as it is not just a click, click, click, click, click and flash. CLK makes your HD2 truly feel like NATIVE Android device. You can only boot Android from NAND with cLK. MAGLDR is a bigger size bootloader then cLK and uses PPP for a data connection. You can charge your HD2 while nit is off
I have used both MAGLDR and cLK, currently cLK. I think both are just amazing pieces of work. But in my honest opinion cLK is the better bootloader for someone that just wants to run NAND Android on their HD2. I just like the way cLK works better than MAGLDR. I will have to flash MAGLDR again coming soon as I want to try out the freshly released WP7 ROM with NoDo. ( yes I said with NoDo )
I love everything about CLK except the fact that it uses PPP. With Cedesmith's b4 wrapper, it's bearable, but I still get about 10 data drops per day minimum (just tried today). The problem doesn't seem to occur too much in strong reception areas. For now, I'm back to MAGLDR. Love CLK, but I will take a significantly more stable data connection.
This is my experience only. Several people do not get data drops at all with the b4 wrapper.
T-Macgnolia said:
I will have to flash MAGLDR again coming soon as I want to try out the freshly released WP7 ROM with NoDo. ( yes I said with NoDo )
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Where, where, where????
Is this the rom you are talking about??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953078
cLK
cLK has more benefits than MAGLDR and feels a lot more native than MAGLDR.
So pro cLK.
About the new WP7 builds:
The camera in flash mode is again green tinted and you need an activation code for the live service or sideload apps. Just wait for Mango update later of the year than I give WP7 a try.
T-Macgnolia said:
Ok this is my run down or two cents.
MAGLDR is way more user friendly as far as flashing CWM. It has several useful options, but a lot of those options are not needed if you have CWM. MAGLDR can boot Android and Windows Phone 7, but is not as elegantly as a native device of the corresponding OS. Size wise MAGLDR is bigger than cLK. MAGLDR uses RMNET for it's data connection. No charging while the device is off. (I theories the no off charging has some kind of correlation to the digitizer going out so often)
CLK is not as user friendly to flash CWM, as it is not just a click, click, click, click, click and flash. CLK makes your HD2 truly feel like NATIVE Android device. You can only boot Android from NAND with cLK. MAGLDR is a bigger size bootloader then cLK and uses PPP for a data connection. You can charge your HD2 while nit is off
I have used both MAGLDR and cLK, currently cLK. I think both are just amazing pieces of work. But in my honest opinion cLK is the better bootloader for someone that just wants to run NAND Android on their HD2. I just like the way cLK works better than MAGLDR.
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This describes it best.
I will revive this thread:
I am really not interested in using Win7 and would like to try out CLK. I would like to ask 2 questions:
1) Pros and cons of using RMNET and PPP. I live in Bulgaria, Europe, if this matters in any way. I am very concerned about data drops.
2) Is there a way to swap MAGLDR with CLK in a easy way : via clockworkmod or something: I dont want to install Win 6.5 rom and all that to get it
Thank you
clk is for more advanced people imo.
deckoff said:
I will revive this thread:
I am really not interested in using Win7 and would like to try out CLK. I would like to ask 2 questions:
1) Pros and cons of using RMNET and PPP. I live in Bulgaria, Europe, if this matters in any way. I am very concerned about data drops.
2) Is there a way to swap MAGLDR with CLK in a easy way : via clockworkmod or something: I dont want to install Win 6.5 rom and all that to get it
Thank you
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Here you go.
What about installing it - Do I have to go all the way flashing official WM ROM and so on...
I've written a clk guide if you decide to switch. It may answer questions as well
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dung8604 said:
I love everything about CLK except the fact that it uses PPP. With Cedesmith's b4 wrapper, it's bearable, but I still get about 10 data drops per day minimum (just tried today). The problem doesn't seem to occur too much in strong reception areas. For now, I'm back to MAGLDR. Love CLK, but I will take a significantly more stable data connection.
This is my experience only. Several people do not get data drops at all with the b4 wrapper.
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Have to say that seems to be android issue in poor reception areas. I live in area that struggles to get any kind of data connection. I've had a few android devices now, all that all drop data connection regularly when in my local area or other poor reception spots.
Awesome question
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I don't know why some peopls ask or say that you must flash wm6.5 if you wanna swap between MAGLDR/CLK
you can go between them at any time without losing any data or apps here is what i did
i was in MAGLDR 1.13
Full backup via recovery
flashed CLK via SD (copy CLK "LEOIMG.nbh" to sd root then reboot the device while holding vol down ) then press vol up to perfotm the flash
you're now in CLK, it's time to flash recovery image
download your favorit HD2 recovery.img file
download QtADB from here
go to recovery tab then brows the recovery.img and flash it ( it's easy i think )
now reboot your phone and you're in recovery
partition your NAND exactlly as it was in MAGLDR
flash your ROM (yes FLASH it not from the backup)
i repeat FLASH THE ROM FROM THE ZIP
now goto advanced backup option from recovery then restore the rest of the partitions one by one
FOR THE LAST TIME, DO NOT RESTORE SYSTEM IMAGE FROM BACKUP
wipe dalvik and fix permissions then reboot
your done
i allready tested this methode and it workd fine i migrated from MAGLDR to Clk safely
check my signature to view my current phone config
ThanX
Dear xda users,
My Girlfriend got a HD2 and I installed Android on it.
She used SD versions but she kills them everytime.
After a month the phone got stock on boot screen.
Then i tried to install NAND Roms but after 2 months of smooth running the same problem again... (example: Coredroid, and sense roms)
I think that the problem is that when the phone freeze she pull the battery out and after a few times the phone won't boot anymore.
Followed all the noob friendly guides.
Followed all the instructions in the post of every rom.
Installed the recommed radio, MAGDLR, CMW, data partions that were in the instructions
Common problem on sense roms?
Should i try to install no sense rom?
(Got experience with Desire HD flashing and Touch pro 2)
joostnl said:
Dear xda users,
My Girlfriend got a HD2 and I installed Android on it.
She used SD versions but she kills them everytime.
After a month the phone got stock on boot screen.
Then i tried to install NAND Roms but after 2 months of smooth running the same problem again... (example: Coredroid, and sense roms)
I think that the problem is that when the phone freeze she pull the battery out and after a few times the phone won't boot anymore.
Followed all the noob friendly guides.
Followed all the instructions in the post of every rom.
Installed the recommed radio, MAGDLR, CMW, data partions that were in the instructions
Common problem on sense roms?
Should i try to install no sense rom?
(Got experience with Desire HD flashing and Touch pro 2)
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Hi,
It could be that with all the battery pulling, that the pins could be bent.
Make sure they are all straight.
Buy her an iphone, then she can't pull the battery! :-D
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malybru said:
Hi,
It could be that with all the battery pulling, that the pins could be bent.
Make sure they are all straight.
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I don't think it's hardware related.. Because i can boot in the MAGLDR without any problems.. But when i wan't to boot android it hangs on the coredroid boot logo
(This happends with all roms (sense) i tried so far)
Boot into magldr and re run the rom from there,cleare the caches firsr ot course
Then glue the battery in - buy a tazer and promise her a double dose if she pulls the battery again
lol, hahaha
joostnl said:
I don't think it's hardware related.. Because i can boot in the MAGLDR without any problems.. But when i wan't to boot android it hangs on the coredroid boot logo
(This happends with all roms (sense) i tried so far)
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ive seen a few posts where people have struggled with getting past boot logo, think it was fine after using a different partition in recovery but as your device is for the sd build am not quite sure how that works as Ive never had sd android or if having sd requires clockwork mod recovery? if so try different partition as i said earlier if not hang on till someone has the answer
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Boot into magldr and re run the rom from there,cleare the caches firsr ot course
Then glue the battery in - buy a tazer and promise her a double dose if she pulls the battery again
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haha great answer, my girlfriend doesn't touch my hd2 or she gets alot more than a double dose with the tazer method, HD2 is not the solution for a women... you take the hd2 of her and buy her a iphone surly they are women material.
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Problems almost always occur after a few weeks or months of use for me, just reflash the ROM, and you'll good to go.
removing the battery is not recommended, it can corrupt files on the sd-card. Try to boot without sd-card and see if it helps. If your ROM does boot, it means the SD card is corrupted, you can try to backup the SD card and restore it after completely wiping the sd-card.
If your rom doesn't boot, than it meant there's something else going on, maybe corrupted flash, so reflash and try again. This will delete all your data, so be careful
if your girlfriend is not an daily flasher also might i suggest using a daf build. All the configuration is done for you. if you are using a sd build from magldr than make sure you change the name of the build than edit the startup txt like this "rel_path=whatever you name the build(example: "rel_path=MIUIROM nand_boot=1") the 1 for magldr 0 for windows 6.5. the reason for me saying this is all android builds create a folder android when they boot up with all your info like data and cache is in there. So its best to separate the two just in case you want to boot up more than two builds from sd.
Same here.
could be a bad block in your NAND memory. you can check this with cLK and fastboot.
see this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13600733&postcount=9
i checked mine and there was a bad block in the userdata. i think that is wy my phone was freezing.
now i have flashed cLK and untill now its working great!
been a while since i relaly played with my HD2(cLK wasnt even out when i did the NAND stuff), is there any point to swapping to cLK over MAGDLR ? lso, i have whatever ClockWork Manager that was released (2. something), is it a good idea to update it, or should it be fine how it is?
I'm not a tech noob/linux noob, so if cLK has good advantages, fast boot seems like a good one, could you guys point me to a guide to go from MAGDLR to cLK?
probably goign to try it with this rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1166948 , or the Hyper Droid CM7 from Pongster.......
sorry fi this has been asked, a quick scan of the first page of threads didnt give me anything and its 2AM here
Clk:
-Fastboot
-Fully working rommanager(install roms, make/restore backups while in android)
-no go go go screen on boot
-charging while phone is off
-open soure
-there is still development on it...with very nice features: also sd boot as magldr, change partition size via bootmenu:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15975510&postcount=172
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16334240&postcount=249
...clk uses ppp and magldr rmnet.
At the very beginning the data connection of clk was very very unstable...but with the ril wrappers developed by cedesmith I never got a drop since april.
most people including me use the beta 4 wrapper.
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Just checked the Clock work install, its 3.0.0.5, any need to update to 4.0.0.* ?
so is it a good idea to swap to cLK ? Any good guide from going from MAGDLR to cLK?
Anyone else have an oppinion?
Hello everybody,
I can't seem to find an answer to this, though it seems to be a rather basic question.
Is it possible to run two different Android roms on one HD2?
I am currently running Hyperdroid cm7 (Clk-version) and would like to try either a MIUI Rom or a beta-ICS SD-Version, anyone know if and how this would be possible?
Thanks in advance, JW
sure is, through magldr, choose boot ad sd to boot to sd android, or boot ad nand to boot to nand. then, in magldr - services, you can set which you preffer to auto boot, or you can set it to always show the magldr menu and let you decide which to boot.
Thanks for the answer, though I'm not sure I'm willing to go back to Magldr, i like being able to charge my phone while its off.
Thank you though
and just how often is your phone off? mine hasnt been off for, oh, 18 months,,,
You are right on that one, but when I was used Magldr I used to be paranoid about my battery dying since I would have to somehow turn my phone on so it can charge (I am not sure if that would even be a problem, but I feel safe now ) - hope you understand what I mean - in my head it kinda makes sense^^
hehe, in teh event of a dead battery, an old usb cable with teh end cut off, red and black wires bared and held to the battery + and - for 60 seconds will give the battery enough juice to start booting and charging starts halfway thru booting.
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You are right on that one, but when I was used Magldr I used to be paranoid about my battery dying since I would have to somehow turn my phone on so it can charge (I am not sure if that would even be a problem, but I feel safe now ) - hope you understand what I mean - in my head it kinda makes sense^^
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i have been using Magldr only since nov11. everytime my phone out,just plug it it,n it will auto boot.
nwy got a problem here,
i've been using ICS beta on NAND, then tried to install sense on SD.but after bootanimation finish,its not running sense(SD), its running the ICS.
do u guys now whats the problem??
I have been considering dual booting from SD and nand. Is it possible to have it automatically boot from the rom on the SD?
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oroo708 said:
i have been using Magldr only since nov11. everytime my phone out,just plug it it,n it will auto boot.
nwy got a problem here,
i've been using ICS beta on NAND, then tried to install sense on SD.but after bootanimation finish,its not running sense(SD), its running the ICS.
do u guys now whats the problem??
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Did you boot into MAGLDR, select AD SD Dir then boot into AD SD? If not, try booting into MAGLDR then selecting boot AD SD, should work
michaelnv710 said:
I have been considering dual booting from SD and nand. Is it possible to have it automatically boot from the rom on the SD?
Sent from my HD2
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Yes, just go into bootsettings in Services (in MAGLDR) then select AD SD.
oroo708 said:
i have been using Magldr only since nov11. everytime my phone out,just plug it it,n it will auto boot.
nwy got a problem here,
i've been using ICS beta on NAND, then tried to install sense on SD.but after bootanimation finish,its not running sense(SD), its running the ICS.
do u guys now whats the problem??
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I was running WP7 and SD AS for long time and wanted to try NAND but when I tried to boot from SD again it would boot loop NAND boot screen. I flashed WP7 back to NAND and SD works, so I think there is something in the boot partition to allow for SD boot in WP7 build and not in the NAND since most of them use SD-EXT.
I also want to try out ICS, but need easy access to my daily SD (ACA)
I had the same problem. I learned only few Kernels are able to boot SD Builds via Magldr, as described in following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375554
I changed to a different Kernel that actually worked for me. But now I stuck at another problem. I wanted to apply a glitch fix but it seems that broke my SD AD .
war_child said:
I had the same problem. I learned only few Kernels are able to boot SD Builds via Magldr, as described in following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375554
I changed to a different Kernel that actually worked for me. But now I stuck at another problem. I wanted to apply a glitch fix but it seems that broke my SD AD .
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War_child,
Which kernel should be changed then, i'm little confused. The NAND or SD. This might be a dead end since I would like to try ICS on NAND instead of WP7
You have to change the Kernel in SD Android
war_child said:
You have to change the Kernel in SD Android
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have u tried hastarin kernel??
war_child said:
You have to change the Kernel in SD Android
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Hmm, so the SD kernel boots fine when WP7 is in NAND but the same kernel doesn't when Android is in NAND. Interesting
oroo708 said:
have u tried hastarin kernel??
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I tried 3Dak's R2.9, but I think as I now have to reinstall SD AD I will try hastarin.
... Hmm, so the SD kernel boots fine when WP7 is in NAND but the same kernel doesn't when Android is in NAND. Interesting
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Seems like the other Kernels are scanning NAND for Android and only if nothing is found they boot from SD. But I'm no dev so it's just a guess
Well I am on the TBD v 2.5
I choose power off since I wanted to copy some data to my SD card
Usually on MAGLDR the phone should reboot when its plugged in but my phone did not, it was charging on off mode in MAGLDR
Anybody else had this experience..???
htcfreak said:
Well I am on the TBD v 2.5
I choose power off since I wanted to copy some data to my SD card
Usually on MAGLDR the phone should reboot when its plugged in but my phone did not, it was charging on off mode in MAGLDR
Anybody else had this experience..???
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:O please be serious
htcfreak said:
Well I am on the TBD v 2.5
I choose power off since I wanted to copy some data to my SD card
Usually on MAGLDR the phone should reboot when its plugged in but my phone did not, it was charging on off mode in MAGLDR
Anybody else had this experience..???
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(after you have done freaking out)
Remove cable, orange LED still on?
If yes, probably was just stuck for some reason and I doubt it was actually charging
Otherwise .... " please be serious !" !
just tried it and phone turns on
so no its not working
cLK
Thats why I use cLK. Sometimes need to conserve battery as much as possible and charge my phone while its off. cLK also seems to boot faster, as in their is no waiting to watch magldr's script run.
kylew1212 said:
Thats why I use cLK. Sometimes need to conserve battery as much as possible and charge my phone while its off. cLK also seems to boot faster, as in their is no waiting to watch magldr's script run.
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And you can use CWM Recovery to flash ANYthing in NOtime
matoflash said:
And you can use CWM Recovery to flash ANYthing in NOtime
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I do use CWM it makes everything a breeze! I usually do task 29 anyway.. ive been reading about bad blocks on our phone :/ i need to check mine..
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kylew1212 said:
I usually do task 29 anyway.. ive been reading about bad blocks on our phone :/
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more task 29's = more read, erase, write cycles for the nand = more chance of bad blocks.
That's why i always shudder at advice that starts ' do a task 29, return to stock rom, reinstall magldr, reinstall radio, blahblah.,,, 9 times in 10 they aren't necessary, and in the process you triple the number of cycles the process takes. Simply flashing a new cwm layout is enough to clear the nand 999 times in 1000. As for flashing a new (nandroid) rom, choosing wipe data/factory reset in cwm is also usually enough.
Exactly, don't get why people do that sort of full cycle? Just wipe data then flash new CWM partition (if needed) then ROM is what I would do (as of now I've only actually flashed Typhoon and updated, but if I were to change ROMs this would be how).
samsamuel said:
more task 29's = more read, erase, write cycles for the nand = more chance of bad blocks.
That's why i always shudder at advice that starts ' do a task 29, return to stock rom, reinstall magldr, reinstall radio, blahblah.,,, 9 times in 10 they aren't necessary, and in the process you triple the number of cycles the process takes. Simply flashing a new cwm layout is enough to clear the nand 999 times in 1000. As for flashing a new (nandroid) rom, choosing wipe data/factory reset in cwm is also usually enough.
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exactly, finally someone has a clue
on top of that, people should stop task29ing when they have bad blocks, because the blocks are 'usually' marked as bad and blocked. Every task29 makes it worse.. but what do i know people, better ask google..