New Droid Owner, Questions - Droid X General

Hello Everyone!!
I recieved my DX last Friday and am quickly becoming acustomed to it. I do, however, have a few questions and was hoping that you could point me to the right threads or answers I seek.
First off, Rooting and deodex. If I understand things correctly, I need to do this before I can make any changes/mods. I did read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940986
It sounds pretty straight-foward and I'm not shy when it comes to doing this.
Second, start-up/running apps/battery life. I hear some people wishing for better battery life and others saying it's ok. I also read somewhere about disabling apps with a start-up mgr to improve battery life. Like a dummy I didn't bookmark the thread and can't find the info again. I'm curious about how to do this. Which apps can I safely disable without causing problems or making a brick. I really would like to get rid of CityID, amazon MP3, Blockbuster, and maybe a few others. There are many apps listed in the "running" section under manage apps, are all of these necessary?
And, Third, App Killers/Pgm Mgr's. Are they required/helpful? If so, any suggestions for a good one? I read about them in the post mentioned in Q2 and am curious. I'm not positive, but the thread I didn't bookmark may be elsewhere.
Thanks in Advance for any and all help and suggestions.
Mike

Heres a list some quick googling turned up on safe to remove apps in Gingerbread, nothing official, just what someone removed successfully
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-x-hacks/137295-gingerbread-apps-safe-freeze-rename.html
Here is a list I found for Froyo
http://androidforums.com/droid-x-al...vable-non-removable-root-pre-gingerbread.html
There are a few ways to freeze/remove apps, but the method I use is using Root Explorer, rename the .apk file of the app you wish to remove, for instance, in the folder system/app/ you can find "CityID.apk", I would rename it to "bak.CityID.bak", where the first "bak" is to change the alphabetical order to group frozen apps, and the second "bak" is to remove the .apk file extension.
Everyone has their own opinions on Task Killers, but heres two articles that make sense to me
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them

Ok, this brings me to another, maybe dumb, question. When you say Gingerbread and Froyo, are they names for stock ROM's? If so, how do I know which one I have. I'm still learning about the DX and Android OS. I come from a Win6.x smartphone. The learning curve there was much shorter before I decided to flash a custom ROM to it (ookba's work is excellent, btw). Thanks for the first two posts, I'll read up and enlighten myself.

Android versions
They are android versions. Go to settings>about phoneand look for android version.
3.0.x is honeycomb
2.3.x is gingerbread
2.2.x is froyo
2.1.x is eclair
2.0.x is donut (i think)
Notice a pattern? I also came from windows mobile 6 so thats as far back as I know for versio.n names

SharkBaitDave said:
They are android versions. Go to settings>about phoneand look for android version.
3.0.x is honeycomb
2.3.x is gingerbread
2.2.x is froyo
2.1.x is eclair
2.0.x is donut (i think)
Notice a pattern? I also came from windows mobile 6 so thats as far back as I know for versio.n names
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Pretty good. Donut actually started at 1.6 and Cupcake was 1.5. That's all I got lol
Fern, if you haven't modified your phone then you have FroYo.
Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

Right- 2.0 was also eclair.

SharkBaitDave said:
They are android versions. Go to settings>about phoneand look for android version.
3.0.x is honeycomb
2.3.x is gingerbread
2.2.x is froyo
2.1.x is eclair
2.0.x is donut (i think)
Notice a pattern? I also came from windows mobile 6 so thats as far back as I know for versio.n names
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Thanks for the info! I'm 2.2.1 aka Froyo. Now this gets me started. Anyone recommend a rooting and/or deodex pgm?

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[Q] Still confused about Android, really don't know what to do?!?!

I'm still really confused. People are telling me to flash a different radio for android... then install Linux drivers or whatever, do I really have to install all this?!!? I thought it was just running Haret.exe and it works...
If anyone has individual guides for these would be great.... I'm really beyond confusion with this.
I basically just wanna dual boot the 2.1 Sense ROM (The best one, with good battery life etc.) and have everything working. If there is a particular guide, or several guides for this and someone could them to me in order I would be so greatful... because I really have no idea what I'm doing.
Also on a T-Mobile UK HD2, if that changes anything.
Just put a build on your SD card download an Android boot loader then run it simple as no need to change radio or anything else
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
If your really having trouble with it, then usually all I'd say is READ all of the stickies, all the info you could ever want on the subject and brings you to being in the exellent position of knowing almost everything. If not, take this link and call me in the morning
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
I do wish i could leave it there, but the OP of that thread has disappeared and isn't supporting the latest developments, but that tells you to download an Android build a ROM and a radio (oh, and a dual boot program). Those are the core components, If you wanna switch builds, you just change your SDcard whenever you do so desire. But you don't get much information on jacking round with the Kernel, this can provide quick upgrades to hardware (such as.... getting the lightsensor working in the future) without changing builds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719646
that should give you base knowledge of all things XDAndroid (a few posts down on the second link mind you). Hope this helps
JccageX2 said:
I'm still really confused. People are telling me to flash a different radio for android... then install Linux drivers or whatever, do I really have to install all this?!!? I thought it was just running Haret.exe and it works...
If anyone has individual guides for these would be great.... I'm really beyond confusion with this.
I basically just wanna dual boot the 2.1 Sense ROM (The best one, with good battery life etc.) and have everything working. If there is a particular guide, or several guides for this and someone could them to me in order I would be so greatful... because I really have no idea what I'm doing.
Also on a T-Mobile UK HD2, if that changes anything.
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Here is the crash course for you...
* It is the best to learn how to get Android on your phone and test different builds yourself for your taste - so, what makes you happy keep that build I guess.
I have T-Mobile USA HD2 am using FroyoStone Series V1 build and everything works just fine. Auto Killer App puts battery in comparable position with my WinMo and therefore I am using now Android full-time for the past week or so - not a single SOD, freeze, etc. - it simply works just fine.
How to get Android on your HD2? Find compatible build for your UK HD2 version by reading stickies and doing a little bit of homework researching xda forum.
Then once you find the build:
1. Download it... it will be packed into archive most likely (rar, zip, 7z, etc)
2. Froyo builds go usually into one folder "Android" - as packed just copy folder Android into the root of your SD card on your phone.
3. Open it up through File Explorer, start/click CLRCAD.exe - you will see no action and that's fine - this makes sure your sound works fine... then, start/click haret.exe...
4. Leave it to boot - first boot is bit longer but it should boot in less than couple of minutes or something like that (depends on the build).
5. DO WATCH what the lines state - if there is anything like "failed to mount, blah blah" or any other possible failure to load something - come back and start searching for solution on these forums... You should be fine (however, I do not offer any guarantee as any of the build makers).
The rest is pretty easy - run Android, play with it and see if you like it...
Note: To change builds, it is very simple... Just delete Android Folder from SD Card root and you are ready to download and install (copy over) another "Android folder" into the root of the build you have downloaded.
Cheers mate!
Okay, so there isn't need for flashing Radio's etc. then? Literally just running the files?
I can't even download the ROM's, not downloading I'll try again later though.
Most of the rom builders recommend upgrading to the most recent radio. There seem to be fewer issues with SOD, robo voice, etc vs older radios. That said, YMMV so try it out with what you have now. If you have problems try to out newer radios or WinMO roms built to run android. Good luck.
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There is a "defenite guide to android" on the forum. I was just like you but followed those steps exactly and now.I'm running android no problem. Just make sure you read up on everything. Its not gonna be as simple as dragging and dropping but it isn't extremely hard.
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im just confused on android . what is the best one to get ?. im running energy dinik rom .
and im just not that sure about it yet . dont want to bugger my phone up tryin a android.
.BetaBoy said:
There is a "defenite guide to android" on the forum. I was just like you but followed those steps exactly and now.I'm running android no problem. Just make sure you read up on everything. Its not gonna be as simple as dragging and dropping but it isn't extremely hard.
Sent from my Nexus One HD2 using XDA App
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Okay, has anyone got a link to this guide?
Also, how do I change my Radio, and can it harm my device if I do?
the definitive guide to android is here the radio thread here...this helps as well...
JccageX2 said:
I'm still really confused. People are telling me to flash a different radio for android... then install Linux drivers or whatever, do I really have to install all this?!!? I thought it was just running Haret.exe and it works...
If anyone has individual guides for these would be great.... I'm really beyond confusion with this.
I basically just wanna dual boot the 2.1 Sense ROM (The best one, with good battery life etc.) and have everything working. If there is a particular guide, or several guides for this and someone could them to me in order I would be so greatful... because I really have no idea what I'm doing.
Also on a T-Mobile UK HD2, if that changes anything.
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SIMPLIFIED GUIDE

Plain Android

Just got my Desire Z today & as much as i love it I hate sense. I'm using ADD.Launcher atm to try & hide it but I still get there crappy apps.
So my question is, which is the best ROM to flash my phone to get to Vanilla Android?
Thanks in advance
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
cyanogenmod rom... Its amazing... has probably the most support cause there are soo many users
Try Cyanogen. Check out the thread in the G2 dev forum, where there's loads of activity (the thread on the DZ side is pretty dead).
I've used Cyanogen before on my G1 & its good but it never felt like stock to me. Just wondering is it possible to flash the G2 Rom onto the Desire Z?
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
KarlosTheJackal said:
I've used Cyanogen before on my G1 & its good but it never felt like stock to me. Just wondering is it possible to flash the G2 Rom onto the Desire Z?
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According to Cyanogen it's still not a totally stock build. But if you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, you should be able to flash the G2 ROM. Do not try this with just S-OFF from the engineering hboot.
steviewevie said:
According to Cyanogen it's still not a totally stock build. But if you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, you should be able to flash the G2 ROM. Do not try this with just S-OFF from the engineering hboot.
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'Radio S-OFF' *confused look on face* I am very confused as to what you mean.
What is 'Radio S-OFF'? And what's 'engineering hboot'? Think I need to read up a bit more before I even consider rooting this device, if you could point me towards the best place to start I would be greatfull!
Edit:Spelling errors lol
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
I have not seen stock Android running, only with Sense on my Desire Z, and I've not been able to find a simple list of what specific features Sense has added over vanilla.
Could someone point me to somewhere which might tell me whether I might prefer vanillia Android, as I'd hate to switch to an otherwise better ROM only to find lots of features that I liked have suddenly vanished...
Andre
KarlosTheJackal said:
'Radio S-OFF' *confused look on face* I am very confused as to what you mean.
What is 'Radio S-OFF'? And what's 'engineering hboot'? Think I need to read up a bit more before I even consider rooting this device, if you could point me towards the best place to start I would be greatfull!
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If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
andrewilley said:
I have not seen stock Android running, only with Sense on my Desire Z, and I've not been able to find a simple list of what specific features Sense has added over vanilla.
Could someone point me to somewhere which might tell me whether I might prefer vanillia Android, as I'd hate to switch to an otherwise better ROM only to find lots of features that I liked have suddenly vanished...
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You'll lose all the HTC apps. So if you like any of them, maybe you won't like a stock Android ROM ?
Have a look at HTC's spec sheet on the DZ, which does list all their add-on apps and widgets too, that should give you an idea - http://www.htc.com/uk/product/desirez/specification.html
But you could always do a Nandroid backup of what you have now, flash a new ROM to try it, then you can easily go back if you don't like it.
steviewevie said:
But you could always do a Nandroid backup of what you have now, flash a new ROM to try it, then you can easily go back if you don't like it.
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This.
Also want to point out that HTC's enhancements go beyond the apps, rosie-launcher and the widgets...
The T9-based dialler is theirs, as is the camera, the deskclock (with world cities), the music player, etc...
Oh and lots of little things like the icons/black statusbar etc.
I generally don't like having to use Sense, but I wish Google would up their game with regards to the dialler and camera especially. They're just terrible at the moment (which is why Cyanogen went to the trouble of practically making his own camera app).
Hopefully for Honeycomb...
catachresistant said:
This.
Also want to point out that HTC's enhancements go beyond the apps, rosie-launcher and the widgets...
The T9-based dialler is theirs, as is the camera, the deskclock (with world cities), the music player, etc...
Oh and lots of little things like the icons/black statusbar etc.
I generally don't like having to use Sense, but I wish Google would up their game with regards to the dialler and camera especially. They're just terrible at the moment (which is why Cyanogen went to the trouble of practically making his own camera app).
Hopefully for Honeycomb...
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I have to say that I'm a Sense fan. I can't fault it over stock Android (aside from the slight performance overhead, which is a non-issue if you overclock).
Vanilla Android - awful camera, contacts, dialler, ugly as hell, launcher looks nice but is plain annoying cos it doesn't fling more than a few lines, you don't get the Sense weather animations which I think are awesome eyecandy for showing off your phone to other people, Sense widgets are all generally pretty, the list goes on...
But ultimately that is MY preference, and the awesome thing about Android is you can customise it to fit your preferences. Try vanilla out - you have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain
steviewevie said:
If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
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Thank you so much for all of that! A lot of help & explained enough for me to start learning
You sir have my first ever 'Thanks' on here.
steviewevie said:
If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
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Quick question for you, Why do you recommend the 'rage' method over other methord's such as 'visionary'?
This topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390&highlight=gfree talks about using 'gfree' & 'visionary' & seams like a very easy & straight forward way of gaining root access.
n/m: Kinda kept reading over topics & found that some people have been having problems with visionary with partitions etc. Ill pass on it just in case!
Well i followed your advice, read up on every thing & i am know running [ROM] NO SENSE: 11/Nov 1.22.531.8 r1 - HTC Vision (G2/Z) Stock & am loving it!
Thank you so much! I have stock Android XD <3
KarlosTheJackal said:
Quick question for you, Why do you recommend the 'rage' method over other methord's such as 'visionary'?
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n/m: Kinda kept reading over topics & found that some people have been having problems with visionary with partitions etc. Ill pass on it just in case!
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Yep, a lot of people seem to run Visionary and end up stuck in a boot loop or similar. I've never seen any problem like that with rage, the worst that seems to happen is it just doesn't work (but the phone is still fine), and that's usually because a command hasn't been typed in correctly or an error message came up and the user didn't realise it was important.
KarlosTheJackal said:
Well i followed your advice, read up on every thing & i am know running [ROM] NO SENSE: 11/Nov 1.22.531.8 r1 - HTC Vision (G2/Z) Stock & am loving it!
Thank you so much! I have stock Android XD <3
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Excellent ! Well done

Cannot Update to Froyo because of Rooted Wildfire, How I Unroot? Cant use RUU?

I rooted my HTC Wildfire using Unrevoked (latest version) couple days ago, just found out Froyo avalible but cannot update because of this.
I am in UK on Vodaphone Wildfire (Unlocked to use o2 sim)
I cannot find the factory RUU for Vodaphone UK?
I tried some 2.2 update RUU but come up with customer ID error
Have I lost out on froyo?
I got my vodaphone_buzz ota downloaded (50mb avg) but cant use it
Any help would be very much appriciated
*** Im not fussed if i lose root, infact i rather not have it tbh the hassle it gave***
Flash it with Wildpuzzle?
You could flash it with a new ROM like wildpuzzle or similar if you want sence. You can see this thread for available ROM's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822181
I followed this guide to flash the ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396
Hope it helps
howzit bud!
it's going to suck heavy for you if you download the actual froyo update, because you wont be able to root your phone again (unrevoked hasn't come out with an update that works on froyo)
Flash the SUnaAaBh v1.1.. it's basically the same and it's getting great results
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879032
Thanks for the info guys, I like the sound of Sunaabh froyo + root
eragon44111 said:
howzit bud!
it's going to suck heavy for you if you download the actual froyo update, because you wont be able to root your phone again (unrevoked hasn't come out with an update that works on froyo)
Flash the SUnaAaBh v1.1.. it's basically the same and it's getting great results
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879032
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SUnaAaBh v1.1 is just as unstable as every other custom ROMs. It crashed everytime I ran it. Its just publicised incorrectly by the guy as best ROM. If you actually read the post you might find the self-praise disgusting, maybe.
Its up to you in the wild puzzle thread there is an un touched froyo update. Just flash it like any other custom rom.
Sent with love from f0xy while mobile!
bynge said:
SUnaAaBh v1.1 is just as unstable as every other custom ROMs. It crashed everytime I ran it. Its just publicised incorrectly by the guy as best ROM. If you actually read the post you might find the self-praise disgusting, maybe.
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I am pretty sure you are doing something seriously wrong. I have tested most of the custom ROM's out there (Currently on WildPuzzle coz I kinda prefer LWP and Sense), and, they have never (hardly, if ever), crashed on me.
Besides, I just checked the Sunnabh thread, it hardly looks like self praise. Most of them have just said the exact thing the ROM author claims his ROM does, that it is stable. That said, if you are not satisfied, kindly move on, and, dont bad mouth the ROM author. He is not obliged to provide you with "stable" (as per your definiton) ROMs.
Get the OTA FroYo update, and enjoy your Wildfire.
Cheers
bynge said:
SUnaAaBh v1.1 is just as unstable as every other custom ROMs. It crashed everytime I ran it. Its just publicised incorrectly by the guy as best ROM. If you actually read the post you might find the self-praise disgusting, maybe.
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You dont tell the problem you just keep bad mouthing.. SUnAaBh = Stability PERIOD.
warriorvibhu said:
You dont tell the problem you just keep bad mouthing.. SUnAaBh = Stability PERIOD.
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Then what's all the patches for, mate ?
You picked the "works perfect" posts and quote it in first page.
How about I quote all the "not working" posts and "do you have a patch" posts ?
Your work should speak not the keyboard. Its totally unwarranted from your side to do anything like that. I have never seen any other developer design such a page.
PERIOD? Ya, period.
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Then what's all the patches for, mate ?
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If I read the thread correctly, I think it is written as "ADDON PACKAGES and INSTALLERS". And, I guess, the name should be enough for you to know the meaning and the reason for the "patches", i.e., they are not bugfix packages or anything, but, additional functionalities which are upto the end user whether they want to install it or not.
It's not that if you dont get the patches, the ROM will crash on you a thousand times (If you do everything properly ,which, most of them have).
That apart, patch requests are again requests to improve the functionality and add convenience features, not bugfixes, which I came across the thread.
bynge said:
Then what's all the patches for, mate ?
You picked the "works perfect" posts and quote it in first page.
How about I quote all the "not working" posts and "do you have a patch" posts ?
Your work should speak not the keyboard. Its totally unwarranted from your side to do anything like that. I have never seen any other developer design such a page.
PERIOD? Ya, period.
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You Please do that show me all the non working posts.. but make sure those posts were there coz of the ROM and not because someone did an error in installing if you have guts find all the non working posts and show me.. and for your info most posts are requests for addons .. Now dont make me angry i am not forcing you to use it..
you have not seen any other developers design such a page ..hmm thanks i know i am a pioneering person .. Huh have you seen alpha centuari ? does that mean it does not exist .. And Learn some etiquette please..
3xeno said:
If I read the thread correctly, I think it is written as "ADDON PACKAGES and INSTALLERS". And, I guess, the name should be enough for you to know the meaning and the reason for the "patches", i.e., they are not bugfix packages or anything, but, additional functionalities which are upto the end user whether they want to install it or not.
It's not that if you dont get the patches, the ROM will crash on you a thousand times (If you do everything properly ,which, most of them have).
That apart, patch requests are again requests to improve the functionality and add convenience features, not bugfixes, which I came across the thread.
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Thnx mate.. I dont understand what is his problem..
ANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC:
I noticed that the app called "SuperOneClickv1.5.5-ShortFuse" (google it) has an option for unrooting...I haven't personally tried it (ended up using Unrevoked Linux LIVECD to root).
Let us know how it goes.
I noticed everyone is just focusing on flashing the wildfire with custom rom. Isn't there other ways like faking the signature so the update can still be installed?
I have the same problem, when I tried the OTA update it fails with message "invalid signature". I guess the rom installer is checking the signature of the currently installed OS.
Maybe one solutions is to restore the original HTC 2.1-update1 rom then run the OTA froyo update. Then in the near future, there will be root solutions for Wildfire froyo.
Flash with goldcard
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New to root and overwhelmed with choices-please help

I finally decided to root my g2 but I'm quickly becoming overwhelmed with all the possible choices and information. This is what I'm looking for and hopefully somebody can tell me the simplest way to achieve it.
I want good gps and working Google talking navigation.
I need working wifi calling.
I want to safely over clock.
I am not overly concerned with appearance, i just want something that works well with no bugs. I've been using cm7 nightly on my nook color and I'm happy with it, but does cm play nice with gps now? I've read several threads about other roms and that's why I'm stuck. I really don't want to have to experiment with a dozen different setups. Thank you ahead of time!
Most ROMs in the dev section provide all 3 of those. Any custom ROM allows overclocking, nearly all provide WiFi calling (or you can add it later), and gapps provides your navigation/gps functionality.
You can read before installing whether or not there are known bugs (some AOSP ROMs have GPS issues), and then troubleshoot afterwards if you have issues.
Just be sure to back up with ROM manager before you flash, and you can always go back to the previous setup if you're unhappy with the way your chosen ROM performs for you.
I'd recommend the ROM in my signature to meet all of the needs you mentioned. It's fast, reliable, and has incredible support... essentially it's a moderately modded version of CM7.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Be sure to follow the wiki for rooting its flawless.
As for rom choice I always, always end up back on CM7. Nothing beats its out of the box functionality and stability.
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I've used Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 and now I'm on InsertCoin Sense 2.1+3.0. Both are great and should fit your needs.
Basically, once you root your phone changing ROMs is easy so you can try different ones and see which you like best.
Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
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Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 is Sense 2.1, so it's not slower than stock (in fact it's faster, thanks to optimizations and Virtuos OC Daemon) and doesn't have any weird issues.
InsertCoin is developed by a different team and uses a different kernel (rmk), so I wouldn't call it a variation. It's also different in that it combines elements from Sense 2.1 and 3.0, while Virtuos ROMs are either full 2.1 or full 3.0.
i guess we all missed the main point here and is how to root lol heres the best guide for rooting your G2/Desire Z:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
about the ROMs if you like CM7 go ahead and try it for, its the same as the one you have on your nook, and yes you can overclock without adding anything
about gps on cm7 most people have had trouble with it, but you just need to try cause i really never had any problems
Yea wipe efs before flashing, it will eliminate a lot of common issues with gps and such. Superwipe + will wipe everything well. Don't forget to flash recovery and do a nandroid backup! Also to make the transition easier backup with titanium backup pro. I use virtuous glite btw it looks stock except with light overclock and it is solid. Virtouos basically took the stock rom removed a lot of the bloat and overclocked and pre-rooted it. Works great my only hiccup was I had to grab the swpye beta apk. Aside from that I just restored my apps and I was away.
kingston73 said:
Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?
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Gapps is embedded in the ILWT ROM, as is the EFS wipe tool, to help eliminate GPS issues (plus radio suggestions/info in the OP). Wifi Calling can also be added during ROM install. The OP gives all the info you could possibly need in his thread. Give it a thorough read... seems to cover all the things you've mentioned. And I've had nothing but best experience with it... been running it since nightly 186.
I've successfully rooted following the wiki, I was pretty nervous about screwing it up but everything went smoothly and exactly how it was written. I installed RomManager and flashed "clockworkmod recovery" and then clicked on "backup current rom" and it rebooted the phone and gave me several choices. I used the volume button to select "backup and restore" and selected that, and now it is showing me a screen with a top hat over an orange ring, it's just sitting there with no progress bars and no words. I was following the directions from this site:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
but it doesn't look like the screens on that site right now.
Is this supposed to happen, or did I somehow screw something up when I've barely gotten started?
You still need to flash a Recovery... you can do this through Rom Manager... but use version 3.0.2.4. Or, you could check out the Recovery in my signature. 4EXT Recovery... it's pretty wonderful. After you flash your chosen Recovery you will be able to make a NANDroid backup.
Misread your post. Yeah, you probably used the trackpad... sorry.
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Did you use the power button to select?Don't, use the trackpad
I thought clicking "flash clockworkmod recovery" was flashing a recovery? My big question is what do I do right now, as things seem locked up with just the hat/orange ring on the screen. It's been that way for about 5 minutes at least. Can I power off without hurting anything? And yes, I used power to select "backup/recover".
Press it again and then use the trackpad to scroll and select,that screen is like a screensaver so to speak.
Bombadier,
Many, many thanks to you, I was afraid I'd royally screwed up. If it wasn't for your help in my ADB thread I wouldn't have made it this far, many and much thanks!
No problems happy to of helped
Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?
When you log into google your apps are synced,would recommend getting titanium backup though,a good app which can backup,restore apps,upload to dropbox,uninstall system apps very useful indeed
kingston73 said:
Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?
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Before you flash a new ROM, download "Titanium Backup" off the market and use the Menu button to select Batch. Do a backup of all your apps and data (not system data), and when you flash a new ROM, reinstall Titanium, select Batch mode again, and restore all missing apps and data.

[Q] Carrier IQ concerns and also I want to replace my Stock Gingerbread 2.3.4 to CM7

hello as the past few days we've know and where shown in the news about this carrier iq, i want to remove that little application but appearently is not possible and i think the only way to do it is by taking off stock gingerbread and putting CM7. i have been wanting to move into cyanogenmod bc it seems a better ROM for my tastings and i have tried many instructions on how to put CM7 but it all seems too complicated. Can i get any help on this subject?
T-Mobile G2
Gingerbread 2.3.4 official.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370158
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hello as the past few days we've know and where shown in the news about this carrier iq, i want to remove that little application but appearently is not possible and i think the only way to do it is by taking off stock gingerbread and putting CM7. i have been wanting to move into cyanogenmod bc it seems a better ROM for my tastings and i have tried many instructions on how to put CM7 but it all seems too complicated. Can i get any help on this subject?
T-Mobile G2
Gingerbread 2.3.4 official.
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A good place to start is the wiki for the htc vision,read that through first,I see you are on Gingerbread so you have to downgrade first,all necessary information and links are on the wiki page,best of luck,plenty of help in these forums as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_Vision
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Vision
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480
Second one is basically the same over at the cyanogenmod site and the third is a good rom which I use,its based on cm but with some pretty cool tweaks have a look after you have rooted your phone
Well, first check if you got Carrier IQ because like they said some of the phones have it and some don't . Like me,I don't have Carrier IQ. To easily check download this new app in the market called Carrier IQ by lookout labs it will let you know if you do or do not have it. Than look for a thread rmk40 posted about it showing how to remove it.
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thanks for the reply
I checked the wiki link there is no info tht helps me to restore bak to froyo and root it
COA4178 said:
I checked the wiki link there is no info tht helps me to restore bak to froyo and root it
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Oh yes there is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
G-lite 1.07 has the best battery life AND high performance AND no CIQ and no glitches or force closes!
and you can remove the HTC logging with TrevE's paid app supplement to his famous Logging Test app

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