Now that the Nexus has been released what is everything that we should be looking forward to seeing on our Epics because of it?
Standby I know a few of us are already working on it seeing what can be done
I was fooling around with one today at Sprint store. It's sloooow compared to the hybrid Frog in the latest Bonsai beta rom. Maybe once it gets fixed it will work better.
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Yeah, my wife picked one up today. Its a nice phone but at the moment I still like my (rooted) Epic better. However once development for it gets rolling I'm sure it will be a whole different story. Stock for stock the Nexus is leaps ahead though.
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I was fooling around with one today at Sprint store. It's sloooow compared to the hybrid Frog in the latest Bonsai beta rom. Maybe once it gets fixed it will work better.
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Hybrid frog?
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There was an update soon as I activated mine. Said performance update, seems there was bad code in it and the demo ones. It's fast but there is already a 1.2 kernel running on it and it flies.
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Hybrid frog?
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Bonsai Froyo/Gingerbread = Frogger
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Lol Top Nurse, I am going to your Bonsai site now to see if its in the member section, GJ.
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There was an update soon as I activated mine. Said performance update, seems there was bad code in it and the demo ones. It's fast but there is already a 1.2 kernel running on it and it flies.
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Dreams I was doing 10 things at once but dont remember updating, im on kernel 2.6.35.7-ge382d80
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is that what you got?
also ive noticed that sprint hotspot seems to be working despite that I do not have this on my plan same by you?
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Dreams I was doing 10 things at once but dont remember updating, im on kernel 2.6.35.7-ge382d80
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is that what you got?
also ive noticed that sprint hotspot seems to be working despite that I do not have this on my plan same by you?
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Same here mine wasn't updated right when I unboxed but I didn't take note of the info before the update. Yeah hotspot works wo the plan on the s. The update said there is an important update to fix system performance on your device but didn't note any change at all of the build number like the ones for the Epic did in the past.
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Ah.. I'm a member I might donate just to check it out..
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Ah.. I'm a member I might donate just to check it out..
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I did, and man does it run so good battery life is insane. This is what the epic should have been lol
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Can someone tell me what the key differences are between he nexus s and the epic that wouldb possibly make the nexus better or an "upgrade" ? I was in a sprint stoe Saturday and the mployee told me I'm eligible for an upgrade before june 30th an then again starting october 1st. Is the nexus more advanced enough to ditch the epic or should I wait for somthing like the evo 3d , galaxy s2 , or whatever comes out after those?
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Can someone tell me what the key differences are between he nexus s and the epic that wouldb possibly make the nexus better or an "upgrade" ? I was in a sprint stoe Saturday and the mployee told me I'm eligible for an upgrade before june 30th an then again starting october 1st. Is the nexus more advanced enough to ditch the epic or should I wait for somthing like the evo 3d , galaxy s2 , or whatever comes out after those?
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Personally I don't feel its worth upgrading to.
It is pure google and will be updated by google
Has a NFC Chip
Has a curved display
Has no keyboard (negative for me not for others)
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i was just going to post this asking the same thing/
i cant wait for the gingerbread to be ported over here. i imagine its all the same code save for the keyboard codes because the nexus doesnt have one.
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Can someone tell me what the key differences are between he nexus s and the epic that wouldb possibly make the nexus better or an "upgrade" ? I was in a sprint stoe Saturday and the mployee told me I'm eligible for an upgrade before june 30th an then again starting october 1st. Is the nexus more advanced enough to ditch the epic or should I wait for somthing like the evo 3d , galaxy s2 , or whatever comes out after those?
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no, i wouldnt. the fact that its pure google will make the updates roll out way quicker. and the screen is 4.0 inches. the processor is the same, but it comes preloaded with gingerbread.
the way i see it, i like my screen just the way it is. super amoled isnt that much diff from super amoled plus. the curved glass is just a gimmick. and it doesnt need to be that huge. plus i like the keyboard on our phones. ive had an all touch phone before and it drives me nuts.
i guess its just a matter of opinion. im sticking with the epic tho.
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no, i wouldnt. the only difference is the super AMOLED plus which gives you more sub pixels (8 instead of 4) i think and the curved glass screen. the fact that its pure google will make the updates roll out way quicker. and the screen is 4.0 inches. the processor is the same, but it comes preloaded with gingerbread.
the way i see it, i like my screen just the way it is. super amoled isnt that much diff from super amoled plus. the curved glass is just a gimmick. and it doesnt need to be that huge. plus i like the keyboard on our phones. ive had an all touch phone before and it drives me nuts.
i guess its just a matter of opinion. im sticking with the epic tho.
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Pretty sure they use the same Super AMOLED as us just curved its the new Droid Charge, Galaxy S II, and a few others that have the Super AMOLED Plus
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i was just going to post this asking the same thing/
i cant wait for the gingerbread to be ported over here. i imagine its all the same code save for the keyboard codes because the nexus doesnt have one.
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Yeah, I still don't know. Maybe you should make a thread lol
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i was just going to post this asking the same thing/
i cant wait for the gingerbread to be ported over here. i imagine its all the same code save for the keyboard codes because the nexus doesnt have one.
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I started working on it yesterday will do some more this evening hopefully. This work thing is really getting in the way :lol:
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I started working on it yesterday will do some more this evening hopefully. This work thing is really getting in the way :lol:
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No, I totally understand. I appreciate all the work that you guys do. I was just wondering if anyone knows what Epic users have to look forward to at this point. I know once the devs start tearing it apart it will probably reveal even more possibilities but at this moment I am just looking for any information that I can get my eyes on of what's down the road for us. Will this give us a chance at having a pure AOSP thats not CM7?
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I seen a rumor that sprint premium account holders got a message saying look out for an announcement of a groundbreaking new device tomorrow. Supersonic anyone?
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2010/03/23/htc-supersonic-to-be-announced-on-march-24.html
I love it. We are such phone geeks that we get excited about an announcement of another annoucement. I read VZW is announcing the Nexus tomorrow and been inpatiently wating. We are proud nerds.
I don't think it will be the Nexus. It will be the HTC incredible or maybe both?
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Ay, that we are.
Available this summer.... http://now.sprint.com/evo/?INTCID=CM:AB:20100323:UHP:Masthead:EVOPrelaunch:1000x190
I hope it's not too pricey, this may be what replaces my Vogue.
It's looking like goodbye to SERO...
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Available this summer.... http://now.sprint.com/evo/?INTCID=CM:AB:20100323:UHP:Masthead:EVOPrelaunch:1000x190
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:drools: .
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I hope it's not too pricey, this may be what replaces my Vogue.
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that is what im afraid off but getting it fo sho doesnt matter what how much it cost.
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that is what im afraid off but getting it fo sho doesnt matter what how much it cost.
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Yep I've been saving since I got my Touch Pro
this phone is still awesome OP!!!
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this phone is still awesome OP!!!
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Hell f****** yeah it is
alaman68 said:
this phone is still awesome OP!!!
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Necro... but still...
I remember the days when I actually started the countdown to get my EVO on launch date... damn that was the best phone back then (tech wise).
The zombie apocalypse has began. Grab ur shotgun and protect ur brains
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I bought it the day after launch then got the Evo 3d on launch day. Now I just bought a used one off ebay for my mom to replace her Hero(my old phone before the 4g) It's been a blast playing around with one again. My 3D is better in almost every respect theres 2 things that bother me though. First is the new aspect ratio on the screen, the second is the great roms. We don't even have a rc for cm7 yet and our ics is nowhere near the 4g.
You'll be getting the real deal with ICS, so who cares how far along progress on something thats gonna get replaced is?
I wouldnt build ICS for the 3VO if its just gonna be replaced by an OTA. Wait for it to drop and customize from there.
The EVO 4g on the other hand, has a lot of development going on simply because its the only way we are going to get it.
sure is amazing the development that goes on for this phone. most other phones get left in the dust way sooner.
i dont understand why people would want to switch to the nexus s 4g from the evo. It may be a little more up to date but its just AOSP. Evo can be rooted to AOSP too and many other types. I went over to the nexus s forum for t-mobile and all it is is aosp roms and it looks boring. I know it has a very nice screen and i like keeping up with the latest phones but i feel like thats not a big enough reason to switch, i see everyone drooling over this thing and i dont know why
Im board with the EVO
They convinced themselves it's better than a evo3d. And it's smaller so it fits in their purses/manbags better
I got two upgrades so I'm getting both, and yea it'll fit perfectly in my "European shoulder bag".
its a satchel.
EVO4G much?
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They convinced themselves it's better than a evo3d. And it's smaller so it fits in their purses/manbags better
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Tight jeans are in right now.
because they can
Sure, its a good phone, but not something i would want to be stuck TWO years with at this point in time.
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They convinced themselves it's better than a evo3d. And it's smaller so it fits in their purses/manbags better
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And if the bootloader is encrypted and the phone is locked down...is it really better?
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And if the bootloader is encrypted and the phone is locked down...is it really better?
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We don't know if it is or not. Shouldn't make assumptions.
only reason id get 1 is cause the updates come straight from google.
Look on the bright side, it'll get me out of the evo forums.
1. Why do you care so much?
2. The Nexus S has had a fully working 2.3 ROM since December. CM7 is still not as stable, and just recently ironed out some major basic bugs. This will be the case for pretty much every major Android release.
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We don't know if it is or not. Shouldn't make assumptions.
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Hmm..
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And if the bootloader is encrypted and the phone is locked down...is it really better?
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No assumption.
We've definitely seen evidence of HTC moving in that direction though.
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1. Why do you care so much?
2. The Nexus S has had a fully working 2.3 ROM since December. CM7 is still not as stable, and just recently ironed out some major basic bugs. This will be the case for pretty much every major Android release.
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This right here
I was going to get one, but I can't justify the money for a marginal upgrade. I'll wait for at least the EVO 3D before I decide. I'm content with the EVO until then.
I REALLY wish that Sprint was getting the Sensation instead of the EVO 3D
More likely verizon pushing them in that direction.
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They are encrypting their bootloaders now?
The reason I would like a Nexus S 4g is because it's AOSP and it gets updates straight from google. I love my Evo 4g but I'd like fully working AOSP. No waiting for updates from a manufacturer. That is worth it in my view.
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I'm hoping the next Google device will be a dual core beast and comes to sprint...then maybe ill trade in my evo...the 3d doesn't interest me much besides that qhd screen (maybe Sammy can provide a qhd super amolled plus for smiles)
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How will this help us epic users on may 8th?
The answer is still: We will have to wait and see how the source code from the Nexus is useful, which depends on which hardware elements it shares with our Epics.
Uh, well is someone going to supply an epic dev with what they need?
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Uh, well is someone going to supply an epic dev with what they need?
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Yes.
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Source code is posted on the internet for everyone.
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Yes.
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that should have been my first question, cause that's all i wanted to know, ha.
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Source code is posted on the internet for everyone.
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I kinda figured but I didn't want to assume, thanks for the info!
So will anyone be getting the nexus s
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So will anyone be getting the nexus s
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Nobody smart.
I would probably get one if someone bought one and wanted to trade it for an epic for what ever reason
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Nobody smart.
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Or someone who's happy with they'd phone but hates the bugs. Hardware wise both phones may share the same cpu and gpu but everything else is better in the nexus s. Like the gps chip for one. While I do prefer the epic 4Gs looks the nexus a is a better handset in the end. I'm tired of constantly searching for that "perfect" rom. A pure google experience is the closest thing I can think of.
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Don't think the Nexus is without its problems, from what I've read the screen seems to be very susceptible to cracks thanks to the curved shape and there is a bug with the messaging app that sends to thewrong recipient.
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Nobody smart.
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I don't see why you need to be insulting people who want to get a Nexus S 4G. It seems like a good phone for someone who wants to have the latest android releases immediately available to them. My wife is probably getting the Nexus S 4G as an upgrade from her HTC Hero. The main reason is that she loves CM7 on her Hero and I can't guarantee her CM7 (or future CM releases) on any other phone for sprint. You calling her stupid or in your words "nobody smart" is pretty ridiculous on multiple levels, but mostly because her reasons for getting the Nexus are sound.
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Don't think the Nexus is without its problems, from what I've read the screen seems to be very susceptible to cracks thanks to the curved shape and there is a bug with the messaging app that sends to thewrong recipient.
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That bug wasn't Nexus specific, it was common to android. One of the developers at Google made a blog post about it a while ago.
Yes, i see your point for CM7 on the Nexus...
Are you guys forgetting the Evo3D is right around the corner?
Along with its HUGE Dev community and CM7 pretty much already guaranteed for it....
Screw the GS2 b/c after overclocking the Evo3D i doubt ill need anymore speed...
Yes the 3D is a gimmick but the specs of the phone is so tempting.
GS2 will be out like 2-3 months after and i don't see them getting updated till next year by sammy because we all know how that goes....
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You calling her stupid or in your words "nobody smart" is pretty ridiculous on multiple levels, but mostly because her reasons for getting the Nexus are sound.
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I think he was referring to anyone who would be paying full price to go from our epics to its fraternal twin... now from a hero to a nexus, BRILLIANT! I would never be able to hang onto a phone that long though..
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When I get a new phone....hopefully...soon, I'm not real sure what it will be. The Nexus just feels AWESOME in your hand but I'm used to the slide out keyboard. The GSII sounds awesome as well but we saw how the support was on the Samsung side plus TW makes development SO much more difficult.
The Nexus S 4G isn't really a step forward like the GSII or the EVO 3D will be. It would also be hard to leave the SAMOLED screen for Super LCD/TFT. Decisions...Decisions...
Been using a 3 years old Palm Pre and have been amazed at how it just works. The specs of the HP Pre 3 look to be pretty solid. I love how emails works correctly on the Pre. I hate the unreliability of email polling on Android in general.
O o plus the Nexus S 4G doesn't have an XDA section.....
Ally
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When I get a new phone....hopefully...soon, I'm not real sure what it will be. The Nexus just feels AWESOME in your hand but I'm used to the slide out keyboard. The GSII sounds awesome as well but we saw how the support was on the Samsung side plus TW makes development SO much more difficult.
The Nexus S 4G isn't really a step forward like the GSII or the EVO 3D will be. It would also be hard to leave the SAMOLED screen for Super LCD/TFT. Decisions...Decisions...
Been using a 3 years old Palm Pre and have been amazed at how it just works. The specs of the HP Pre 3 look to be pretty solid. I love how emails works correctly on the Pre. I hate the unreliability of email polling on Android in general.
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I really love WebOS but when the hell are they going to come out with a newly designed phone model for God's sake? I understand some people still like it but I don't see why they can't have a little variety.
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wow thats all i can say...
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Yes, i see your point for CM7 on the Nexus...
Are you guys forgetting the Evo3D is right around the corner?
Along with its HUGE Dev community and CM7 pretty much already guaranteed for it....
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great cool teh evo 3d will have cm7. and when 2.4 comes out the nexus will be rocking that for a good while. and assuming that htc locked the bootloader like they did the thunderbolt then when it comes time for the evo3d to get it.. well it wont, not without an official 2.4 kernel and yes i mean that will include cm8
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The Nexus S 4G isn't really a step forward like the GSII or the EVO 3D will be. It would also be hard to leave the SAMOLED screen for Super LCD/TFT. Decisions...Decisions...
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sorry to break it to ya but the only superlcd versions of the nexus are outside of america, everyone sold inside gets a samoled
i know i will have my nexus s 4g day one. ill be working with k0nane and the rest of ACS to see if we cant bring anything good over to there, and vice versa.
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Been using a 3 years old Palm Pre and have been amazed at how it just works. The specs of the HP Pre 3 look to be pretty solid. I love how emails works correctly on the Pre. I hate the unreliability of email polling on Android in general.
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Ya, I loved the web os! just wish they had more apps and support!
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wow thats all i can say...
great cool teh evo 3d will have cm7. and when 2.4 comes out the nexus will be rocking that for a good while. and assuming that htc locked the bootloader like they did the thunderbolt then when it comes time for the evo3d to get it.. well it wont, not without an official 2.4 kernel and yes i mean that will include cm8
sorry to break it to ya but the only superlcd versions of the nexus are outside of america, everyone sold inside gets a samoled
i know i will have my nexus s 4g day one. ill be working with k0nane and the rest of ACS to see if we cant bring anything good over to there, and vice versa.
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I think he meant the Evo 3D. Hes torn between choosing the SAMOLED Nexus S or the SLCD Evo 3D (which in reality is a qHD screen).
So I just bought the Evo Thursday unaware I can't root the phone. That was the main reason I bought it was to root it, but now it seems im screwed. I need help deciding should I get the Nexus s or keep the Evo, I did some research and the Nexus sounds great and I know it doesn't have a sd slot but it has 16gb built in. Im using a 8gb card and not planning on upgrading. So what should I do I hate a stock phone and most of my apps is for a rooted phone. What would you do?
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So I just bought the Evo Thursday unaware I can't root the phone. That was the main reason I bought it was to root it, but now it seems im screwed. I need help deciding should I get the Nexus s or keep the Evo, I did some research and the Nexus sounds great and I know it doesn't have a sd slot but it has 16gb built in. Im using a 8gb card and not planning on upgrading. So what should I do I hate a stock phone and most of my apps is for a rooted phone. What would you do?
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you should wait until devs find an exploit for evo, its way better than the NS4G
You got 30 days to return it so you could wait, there are some rumors that a few devs are close to getting root on the Evo 4, or just go ahead and take it back. It's really up to you. I liked the Nexus but the fact it didn't have a removable sd card makes me not like it, maybe thats a dumb reason but thats why I didn't like it.
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kbshowtyme said:
So I just bought the Evo Thursday unaware I can't root the phone. That was the main reason I bought it was to root it, but now it seems im screwed. I need help deciding should I get the Nexus s or keep the Evo, I did some research and the Nexus sounds great and I know it doesn't have a sd slot but it has 16gb built in. Im using a 8gb card and not planning on upgrading. So what should I do I hate a stock phone and most of my apps is for a rooted phone. What would you do?
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I have both, the NS4G is without a doubt better. There was a issue with the performance of the radio for some people, and that was a major gripe for some people that I think would stop be me from fully recommending but it's a getting updated to Android 2.3.5 with fixes to the radio on Monday.
It's waaaayyy too late to get the EVO 4G. The NS4G is half as old and the tech while slightly better/same (and in the case of the GPU, way more), will get STABLE updates through 2012 I bet. You'll feel a lot better having a NS4G late 2011 - early 2012 guaranteed.
Way better is a little bit of a stretch, but you will be better off with a ROOTED evo. But its anyone's guess when s-off will be achieved with the new h-boot so if you need to be rooted the Nexus is a good choice. I own both phones and I wouldn't keep an unrootable GB evo, no way. I got lucky and scored 2 new in the box s-off evos last weekend so my Nexus is on the nightstand till we get the ota to hopefully fix its only downfall, a horrible radio. Upside of nexus is no workarounds for GPS to work running aosp, it always works and no battery issues that I've experienced. I've tried every GPS driver and fix on my evo and android sytem just kills my battery. If I don't install maps and turn off location and GPS battery life on the evo is as good as the nexus.
Just wanted to chime in since I do own both phones. I'd get a nexus for now and if you don't like it, you will have no problems getting a mint s-off evo down the road.
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LOL! Def go with the NSG4g.
http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/nexus-s-4g-review/12017.html
My cousin just traded his EvO in for NSG4G.. and he won't look back. Plus its a google phone, its faster, better hardware, and better screen. You have CM7, MIUI, and other custom Roms as well. Just my 2c.
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LOL! Def go with the NSG4g.
http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/nexus-s-4g-review/12017.html
My cousin just traded his EvO in for NSG4G.. and he won't look back. Plus its a google phone, its faster, better hardware, and better screen. You have CM7, MIUI, and other custom Roms as well. Just my 2c.
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Thanks for the video and reply I love what im hearing because I had a MT4g and all I used was CM7 because I cant stand sense so this is perfect for me. The only real plus I have for the EVO IMO is the screen size and camera but I dont take many pics maybe a couple a month if that so I think I will do the trade in.
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I have both, the NS4G is without a doubt better. There was a issue with the performance of the radio for some people, and that was a major gripe for some people that I think would stop be me from fully recommending but it's a getting updated to Android 2.3.5 with fixes to the radio on Monday.
It's waaaayyy too late to get the EVO 4G. The NS4G is half as old and the tech while slightly better/same (and in the case of the GPU, way more), will get STABLE updates through 2012 I bet. You'll feel a lot better having a NS4G late 2011 - early 2012 guaranteed.
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Thats was a concern going in was the EVO too old to be buying
FWIW, the Nexus S line is pretty old too, but still younger than the EVO.
My vote is for the Nexus S 4G. You already said you don't like Sense. So it makes 'sense' to just get the NS4G. Like others have said, you have 30 days so you could wait and keep the EVO and hope for root if you are sold on the phones hardware.
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FWIW, the Nexus S line is pretty old too, but still younger than the EVO.
My vote is for the Nexus S 4G. You already said you don't like Sense. So it makes 'sense' to just get the NS4G. Like others have said, you have 30 days so you could wait and keep the EVO and hope for root if you are sold on the phones hardware.
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Great idea and if/when all is fix I can root because sprint will charge me 35 extra to restock
Here's my two cents.
On topic, Nexus s.
Off topic a bit, if at all possible go with the evo 3d.
It is the 4g with more ram and processor than the nexus s and the 4g. The 4G is a year old and past its prime. The NS is 6months old and not as good as the 3d.
Back on topic for a lower price the NS4G is the way to go.
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Nexus is not a great phone. (I had and sold two.)
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LOL! Def go with the NSG4g.
My cousin just traded his EvO in for NSG4G.. and he won't look back. Plus its a google phone, its faster, better hardware, and better screen. You have CM7, MIUI, and other custom Roms as well. Just my 2c.
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I owned two Nexus 4g phones and sold them both (returning to my Evo 4G) for the following reasons:
-radio issues = miserable battery life! No joke, 5-6 hours with moderate use. I get twice that time with the Evo 4G. (The new OTA update is supposed to help with WIFI and 4G, NOT 3G, which is where part of the problem lies.
-feels cheap! flimsy, hard, slippery plastic does not feel good in the hand.
-the screen is not better than the Evo 3D. Nexus colors are over saturated, so skin tones are RED, etc. I guess some people like that, but I prefer more accurate colors. And the screen have a green tint.
I suggest you do to a Sprint store and try them out side-by-side. That is the only way to really compare them IMO.
If the ns4g doesn't have synergy then it just isn't cool.
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rxc777 said:
you should wait until devs find an exploit for evo, its way better than the NS4G
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Lol wut 0_o way better? To each their own I guess, yes I own an Evo, but the NS4G is the better device.
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Thanks guys Im going to wait about 25 day to see what develops with the Evo and if nothing I'll have a few days to see whats out there because I see the Photon is due out July 31 and it has a dual processorfor a hundred bucks more....it could be a epic win
I'd grab a nexus s. It'll get software faster than any other phone and its got super amoled screen.
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Overstew said:
I'd grab a nexus s. It'll get software faster than any other phone and its got super amoled screen.
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mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync
I get the latest updates in about 20 mins... I would wait for the sgs2 imo
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I was in same state as you. Id wait. I wouldnt swap evo, do they still make em as good as they uses to?
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rxc777 said:
you should wait until devs find an exploit for evo, its way better than the NS4G
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Do not listen to this advice. It couldn't be more bias and wrong. I would say get the nexus s if you like aosp roms. If you want sense then you will need to wait until an exploit is found for root.
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I know many of your are torn between these 2 devices, especially now because of Verizion's instance on making your android experience miserable. This is a quick compare of the 2 devices since I've had both in my possession about 5 days now.
If you're too impatient to read the whole thing The short version is the S# is awesome but get a Nexus.
Build Quality- Winner Nexus
Feels much more solid and the S3 although sleek and smooth feels like it would break or scratch easily. The GN feels like it would be fine in your pocket unprotected and not get damaged by keys or loose change.
Screen - Winner S3
I'm giving this one to the S3. If you didn't have them next to each other you may not notice, but the S3 screen is a bit larger, brighter, and crisper. However the S3 has no bezel to protect the screen what so ever the screens glass blends right into the backing. This feels sexy but I think will be prone to scratching. The nav buttons on the GN are convenient and auto hide when watching movies and playing some games.
Radio - Winner S3
I posted the test results on my twitter but if you haven't seen it the S3 gets better receptions and faster DL speeds almost everywhere I test them together. This may be because I'm running a ported version of JB from the GSM models. Once I flash the new radios I may update this
Cpu - Winner S3
This is actually tough. Im running 1808 mhz on the GN right now and it flies. However, dues to the fact that the S3 will get custom kernels in the near future I see them taking full advantage of this monster processor.
Ram - Winner S3
695 useable on the GN, 1.62 on the S3… obvious.
Camara - Winner S3
The new jelly bean features are cool but the S3 will get those very soon.
Battery - Winner S3
This could be due to the heavy OCing on the GN, but the S3 makes it all day with plenty of usage by my wife.
Software - Nexus
Will continue getting the latest android and fully functional rome since everything we need comes from Google. After the devs tackle the boot loader issue they still have the 4g ril in front of them. Functional AOSP for the S3 is a long time coming.
Longevity - Nexus
Verizon is only obligated to update the S3 for 18 months I would doubt seeing updates after that. The nexus S is getting official JB… I believe the GN will get the K desert and maybe the L also.
Price
Nexus you can pick them up used in very good condition around 300 this will keep your unlimited data as well since you won't use and upgrade.
Overall experience - Nexus
Its the little things that add but but the fact that I have already bricked my GN 5 times (my fault, getting greedy) and haven't had to make a trip to Odin is amazing. EVERYTHING works on the nexus. Its just everything you could want in a device as an android enthusiast / flash junkie.
Ask any questions you may have about either device and I'll answer them for you guys to help make your decision easier.
tl;dr the gs3 has great specs but the nexus is better for the type of stuff we like to do.
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sageDieu said:
tl;dr the gs3 has great specs but the nexus is better for the type of stuff we like to do.
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Darn! Just got mine today and oh well! I just saw that the bootloader is locked too! Oh well, stock is good...
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Thanks! Amazon has some negative reviews around the radio of the GN. Did you notice any red flags in that area when testing?
harlanjim said:
Thanks! Amazon has some negative reviews around the radio of the GN. Did you notice any red flags in that area when testing?
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http://lockerz.com/s/223618840
First attempt in the walmart parking lot by my house....
I'm getting my GS3 today before 3pm (it's on fedex truck for delivery). It's gonna be hard to replace my perfectly working AOKP Fascinate with unrooted TW After reading xda threads about GS3 root it seems that people have lot of problems with rooted stock image. If nothing changes in next couple of days I think I will sell it and buy gnex instead (too late to replace it with verizon without loosing unlimited data). Anyway thanks Stephen for your great work on fascinate and I will be still following you cause my aokp fascinate is going to my wife
ps. is there anyway to transfer my apps with data from fascinate to gs3 without root on the gs3?
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I'm getting my GS3 today before 3pm (it's on fedex truck for delivery). It's gonna be hard to replace my perfectly working AOKP Fascinate with unrooted TW After reading xda threads about GS3 root it seems that people have lot of problems with rooted stock image. If nothing changes in next couple of days I think I will sell it and buy gnex instead (too late to replace it with verizon without loosing unlimited data). Anyway thanks Stephen for your great work on fascinate and I will be still following you cause my aokp fascinate is going to my wife
ps. is there anyway to transfer my apps with data from fascinate to gs3 without root on the gs3?
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Im running the rooted/debloat rom and everything works fine!
Suggestion:
Odin the Stock rooted/debloat rom
Install hollo launcher
Freeze TW Launcher
Results:
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Im running the rooted/debloat rom and everything works fine!
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Don't you have problems with stock messaging or keyboard like people have been reporting?
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Odin the Stock rooted/debloat rom
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Will replace launcher for sure but I prefer Nova Prime.
SotYPL said:
Don't you have problems with stock messaging or keyboard like people have been reporting?
Will replace launcher for sure but I prefer Nova Prime.
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No everything works...maybe im missing something?
Edit* folks were having problems with swype, i dont use it so didnt realize there was a problem...there is a new root file up thats fixed. Its in the dev thread or my guide.
Steve speaks the truth!
I received my GNexus today and I'm pretty satisfied, it's hard to deny it's perfect for somone who loves to fool around with the nerdy part of android. I compared it with my sisters new GS3 and I'm confident I made the right purchase, no regrets here!
ps. Jellybean is the ****!
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Steve speaks the truth!
I received my GNexus today and I'm pretty satisfied, it's hard to deny it's perfect for somone who loves to fool around with the nerdy part of android. I compared it with my sisters new GS3 and I'm confident I made the right purchase, no regrets here!
ps. Jellybean is the ****!
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Who's got JB already, sg3 or gn?
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Who's got JB already, sg3 or gn?
Devilcorn'd
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The GN has it, and source code was just released!
jelly bean kicks ass. I really hope we get somebody good working on the RIL on the gs3 so we can have aosp roms and run JB.
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Who's got JB already, sg3 or gn?
Devilcorn'd
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I have JB on my GN and its fast just on stock! now that source drop ready for some real JB roms!
droidstyle said:
Im running the rooted/debloat rom and everything works fine!
Suggestion:
Odin the Stock rooted/debloat rom
Install hollo launcher
Freeze TW Launcher
Results:
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Which rooted/debloated room are you running? Is there more than one?
I get my gs3 in a couple days.
steve are you gonna make your own rom for the sgs3 or you gonna join aokp again?
Working on getting Toro building and compiling in the new AOKP-JB repo I would expect to see tests in the next few days for Toro. It will be short many many mods since we are starting from scratch. Once that is booting and working right I'm looking at the Fascinate. That is if JT doesnt beat me to it. IF all that is done I'll see where the SGS3 is but I think my attention will be focused on Toro and Fascinate until the bootloader situation is resolved.
jcurley said:
Which rooted/debloated room are you running? Is there more than one?
I get my gs3 in a couple days.
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Click the link in my sig...there is only 1 rom right now. It's Stock rooted/debloat 4.0.4
Did anyone see the announcement that Samsung will be selling an unlocked version of the Verizon GS3? It's called the Developer Edition and you have to buy it directly from Samsung for $599. It won't be available thru Verizon.
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scarfman4 said:
Did anyone see the announcement that Samsung will be selling an unlocked version of the Verizon GS3? It's called the Developer Edition and you have to buy it directly from Samsung for $599. It won't be available thru Verizon.
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yep and I think its samsungs way of providing a key to unlock the bootloaders on the non dev devices!!