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Samsung Vibrant old news already?

Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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you don't know much about the field and business of technology do you?

The second you buy any electronic device, it is obsolete before you even walk out of the store with it. It's something you have to accept if you make any electronics purchases.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.

Even though they keep coming out with new phones doesn't mean yours isn't good. Root that baby, flash a rom and fall in love with your phone all over again.

Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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darkside79 said:
Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID

And of course with the same 13-1500mAh batteries these has, so we'll have like 5000 threads about terrible battery life, etc.
Personally, I don't think there is anything great about the Vibrant outside of the screen. That was Samsung's main selling point. The GPU is good, but there are now apps popping up left and right that are claiming "No Support for Samsung Galaxy S."
Yahoo Messenger for Android now has no Support for Galaxy S, Lol.
Not going to bother buying another Samsung phone anyways, but certainly not going to buy another phone with internals outside of the mainstream.
I personally view them going in another direction IRT hardware has a massive failure. That's like buying a Windows Computer with an AMD Processor, and Microsoft telling you Live Messenger isn't supported on you computer because you got AMD instead of Intel, or Microsoft Office won't run on your computer because you're running Windows Vista instead of 7, or WoW won't run on your computer because you got an ATI instead of an NVidia. Massive failure, IMO.
Apps > Hardware.
Then there's the issue of a bunch of apps simply being incompatible due to the phone only having Android 2.1...
If you expect a Nexus S or whatever to change that, then I dunno what to say. 90% of high end smartphones run Snapdragons and most don't run TouchWiz, so developers will continue to target architectures which are the majority - as they should, cause targetting Samsung's phone and ending up with apps that crash and burn on all those other phones would be utterly retarded.

DreamcastDC said:
Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!

ed1380 said:
cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
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in a few weeks new Galaxy S/Nexus S coming to Tmobile. maybe it will be dual and 99.9% it will have flash. and the best thing, no more waiting for updates, and it will already come with Android 2.3

testedfishbrain said:
Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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Got in the site... i figured it out and didn't have to watch that whole video lol

Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.

Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.

Thing about it is, I thought about this too.. What is out that your phone can't do? It can run all the latest apps, and will even be able to support gingerbread. You could have a 5ghz phone, but what good will it do? The 1/4 second that it would be quicker would not be noticeable.

Galaxy S. Maybe the next version will include the P, so it will have a GPS~

Slow down??? Hell no! Speed up with new devices already. And the Vibrant is just fine. I use it, it has an awesome screen, and new updates get uploaded on XDA almost on a daily basis. And I love watching new phones appear. It just means that by the time I get around to another upgrade in about 14 months, the phones at that time will be that much better. So keep innovating, companies, and improving and releasing new phones.

darkside79 said:
Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?

jrharvey said:
Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
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What exactly are you talking about. No one is complaining about technology advancing. People are complaining mostly (and mostly indirectly) about the rate at which hardware/devices are deprecated and forgotten about.
Lots of people come from a long background in using computers, so they are not used to seeing a 1 year old device become "unsupported" for the most part.
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Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
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Yes, those threads piss me off so much I don't even open battery threads anymore unless it's one I posted in and there's a chance a reply may be directed at me.
Most people with great battery life hardly use the phone. I get 20 hours easy when it sits there in Standby for 18.5 of those hours. Once I start using the phone, the battery is crap. I actually had to uninstall some very useful applications so the battery wouldn't commit suicide.
roguly said:
Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Yep. Actually noticed the G2 add play 3x tonight. The hinge is crap, but at least the phone works as expected.
A phone doesn't have to be "really that good" to be worth the investment. In many cases, like the Vibrant, when the phone is supposed to be "really that good" it just turns out to be a failed result of overreaching.
I got this phone because it had a lot of storage in it, and it's not like T-Mobile had that many choices when it came to high end smartphones when the Vibrant was released. Some people replying to posts act like the G2, MyTouch4G, HD7, etc. were being sold in stores in July/August.
There was the HD2, and the Vibrant. That's it. The rest of T-Mobile's phones were utter crap.

lolcopter said:
yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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This right here. What should have been a wonderful experience has been badly sullied by non-existent support.
Buying a phone on a 2 year contract and finding out that the phone isn't even properly supported for 4 months should be enough to piss anyone off.

Not Quite the Experience I Had Hoped For...

Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!

I'll second that
About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)

jay_tea said:
About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)
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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?

Even one star is generous.

Clienterror said:
I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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I haven't had any of those issues. In my experience, it's a very stable phone. Which leak are you referring to? The DroidX ROM containing the At&t mention?
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I can't...
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We know, we know.

Clienterror said:
I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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How dare you make me defend my statements! ;-) So, regarding the browsing, I'm sure you've noticed that when you scroll with several images on the page the images lag begind the text. As far as loading is concerned, it's hard for me to say that it's not my network conditions, but my 3gs definitely seemed faster. After a little bit of research, I've found that other people complained of this too, but apparently you can change flash to "on-demand" to make general browsing lag-free (haven't confirmed this personally)
As far as the zig-zagged subpixels are concerned, it's a well known fact that Motorola used a pentile pixel matrix to cut costs. It's harder to tell with black on white, but look at any blue hyperlink on a white background, especially when zoomed out (image originally referenced from here).
The display response time has been noticed by others. I couldn't find any official specs to confirm this, but if I'm right that it's a problem then the lack of published response time specs wouldn't be surprising.
Data dropping out is also a well known issue. There's also a post on Motorola's support forum.
The brightness issue is subjective, but I've read a few places that the screen doesn't do to well in daylight. I'm not going to bother referencing this or my google voice problem, their just straws on the camel's back.
Finally, I'm not going to use some rumor that 2.3 is coming soon (how soon?) to push me past my 30-day return limit. Too arbitrary.
So, maybe you don't agree with everything I say, but I hope I just made it really hard for you to say you don't agree with anything I say while keeping a straight face

joelszs said:
Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!
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I am actually a little unclear with what issues you have with the phone, most of this post just seems like you talking about liking the OS but not liking the AT&T service, HTC and motorola. You said very little about the phone itself.
to me it sounds like the best thing you should do is indeed jump ship from AT&T and go to verizon or something. As far as the "locking trend" from motorola and HTC.. i am assuming you are talking about the restrictions on sideloading and such. I may be wrong but i feel like this is an AT&T issue not motorola. Other providers that have HTC and Motorola dont seem to have as much issue (please correct me if i am wrong, i do not have too much experience with other providers) So dont worry this is not a sign of the future of android.
Sorry to hear you are not keeping the atrix, i have not had mine as long as you have but i love mine so far. Thanks for the input tho

I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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I gotcha. Didn't mean to change the mood of your thread, just felt like ranting since I wish I could tell myself to keep the Atrix. I'm going to return my Atrix and hold out for six months at least to see what else comes out. I'm hoping the Galaxy S II will hit AT&T, but I am a bit jealous of my friend who gets 5mb+ on his Verizon iPhone4.
joelszs said:
I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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Opera 11.
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I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.

cheetah2k said:
I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.
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Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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Atrix is not what I expected either I had a better time when im using my captivate
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I love my captivate the Super AMOLED is amazing! but i feel like that is the only thing that beats the Atrix. Oh and the Captivate has a much better camera software.. but i shoot a DSLRs so it doesnt bother me.
Im thinking if AT&T gets the Galaxy S II, i might have to switch just cuz the Super AMOLED is AMAZING.

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Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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i will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and i can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that i don't really need a phone :-o
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bwahahahaahahahahahahahahhahahahahha!!!

slimslim said:
I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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oh come on, that isn't fair!
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well there is a lot of thread people dont like and so on. i dont like locked bootloader perhaps its an amazing phone fast and the screen its weird because you can see pixels on the screen (why???) perhaps the bright under de sun on clarity i like more than my nexus one, webtop on hdmi its cool, the multimedia HD its pretty nice too,im returning (maybe) but to get another since i guess have a bad battery seems it dont last too mucho or maybe im so heavy user lol
well anyways good luck next device.

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To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc
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OMG, I can't believe little things ever matter! Seriously, the purpose of a forum is for discussion, and this one seems very one sided--everyone who likes their Atrix is just making smartass comments (except zen kun, thanks for contributing to the discussion).
If you don't like open discussion, why don't you move to China?

[Q] Thinking about Switching -

I've been back and forth from switching from the Inspire over to the Atrix...Just curious if anyone in here has done that, and What (if any versus the Inspire) are the Pro's/Con's to Swapping devices....
I believe i'm still covered under AT&T's 30 day exchange deal, so lets hear it...What do you all think?

If the inspire had a BETTER, speaker phone, battery, I would have stayed with it.
The ringtones and music play so LOW it's pathetic! And battery life is not as good as the atrix, UNLESS you don't use the phone much. I don't care much about the hacks that suppose to fix somethings, it will never be as good as the atrix in those areas. Because of this I was inspired to go for the atrix
The atrix on the othe hand, has weak camera and its flash is weak too. I like that it's much smaller than the inspire.

The fellow I had the pleasure of speaking with at AT&T was pretty quick to tell me that I would be paying quite a lot for more for the Atrix than this Inspire...It sounds good, but is it truly worth swapping?
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...... how exactly did he come to that conclusion?

Good question....my guess was partially because I bought this and my wifes crackberry Torch for $79 bucks each through their lovely retention department...I figure I will call them in the morning
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I just exchanged my Inspire for an Atrix and it cost me $103... Not exactly a bank breaker.

If I Swap to the Atrix, I Seriously refuse to pay anything more...DOUBT I'll get away with it, but you'd figure a Like for Like exchange of some sorts...supposed to call my friends over @ Retention again this morning, so we'll see...

There its a lot of threads talking about this, even a comparison between 2 devices. Next please use search button
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zen kun said:
There its a lot of threads talking about this, even a comparison between 2 devices. Next please use search button
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Your opinion is duly noted - However If I wanted to use the search button to find a bunch of other responses and or posts that dont pretain to what I want to know, OR ask what I wanted to ask...I would have. Thanks for your input

My take is that the Inspire has a better display (not resolution but brightness and colors) but the Atrix has more to offer in the long run.
I also figured out how to get great battery life with the Atrix. Your mileage may vary, but I use Exchange via Hotmail for my sync needs and changing it from push to 15 min intervals has extended my battery life to more than a day. With the Inspire, I was never able to make it through an entire day without charging.
The Atrix also has a great speaker and plays Angry Birds with zero lag.

Diesel984 said:
Your opinion is duly noted - However If I wanted to use the search button to find a bunch of other responses and or posts that dont pretain to what I want to know, OR ask what I wanted to ask...I would have. Thanks for your input
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really?
you are aseking about cons and pro's nothing else.there is a lot of them....
for example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1026056
and was in the first page when you create a brand new

Despite its MANY shortcomings, the Atrix still is the best phone to have today. Maybe the EVO 3D or SGS2 might steal this title, but it still stands strong.
A solid contender today is the Nexus S.
Frankly, my advice would be to get the Atrix, hold on to it till the end of the year, and get the next multi-core Nexus phone. It might also have a 3D screen (to encourage development of 3D apps), who knows?
But I gotta say, I found the lack of 720p HD recording on the Nexus S to be unforgivable. On the other hand, the Atrix can't play unmodified 720p mkv movie files, while the Nexus S can....

TareX said:
Despite its MANY shortcomings, the Atrix still is the best phone to have today. Maybe the EVO 3D or SGS2 might steal this title, but it still stands strong.
A solid contender today is the Nexus S.
Frankly, my advice would be to get the Atrix, hold on to it till the end of the year, and get the next multi-core Nexus phone. It might also have a 3D screen (to encourage development of 3D apps), who knows?
But I gotta say, I found the lack of 720p HD recording on the Nexus S to be unforgivable. On the other hand, the Atrix can't play unmodified 720p mkv movie files, while the Nexus S can....
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God I hope not... I owned a 3DS for a grand total of 24 hours because some unfortunate people like myself can't look at a binary 3D screen without nearly painting the floor with what we had for our last meal... I'm ready for 3D to die... JUST DIE!!! Get out of my video games, off of my phone, and back into James Cameron's garage!

imho
forget the atrix an get a lg g2x! totally unlocked bl pure android getting gingerbread in june Hdmi mirroring great camera Ill let you find out the other benifits Goodluck on your choice!

Diesel984 said:
I've been back and forth from switching from the Inspire over to the Atrix...Just curious if anyone in here has done that, and What (if any versus the Inspire) are the Pro's/Con's to Swapping devices....
I believe i'm still covered under AT&T's 30 day exchange deal, so lets hear it...What do you all think?
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i see a new inspire vs atrix thread everyday on this board, you are just asking pros and cons and there are many threads already on the subject addressing the exact same question you are asking....honestly can people not make decisions for themselves anymore, just look at the specs and reviews and choose the one best for your needs. its not complicated....

Atrix is beyond the Inspire. Can't believe people think the Inspire is better. I think Moto should have waited to optimize its device for dual-core and launch it with GB...but whatever, it is still the best on the market right now. Atrix sits #1 on the charts according to pcworld
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Meh. Some people like to ask questions to the community instead of reading different threads. At least it's semi-on topic. Guess that shows how cynical I've become after 16 years of posting on internet forums.

Switch to iPhone 4?

Good day all,
I've had my Galaxy S II for about 2 months now and I love how it works.
But still, it seems that my hands are a bit too small to type good with just 1 hand..
Therefore I was thinking of getting it replaced with an iPhone 4.
Now I was wondering if you guys think I would regret it?
The thing I'm most worried about is the speed of the web browsing. Is it really that slow on the iPhone that I will have to wait much longer than on Galaxy S II?
Also, does anyone know if I can get text reflow on iPhone when I jailbreak it?
Thank you very much already for any answers.
Kind regards,
Hybbie
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Hybbie said:
Good day all,
I've had my Galaxy S II for about 2 months now and I love how it works.
But still, it seems that my hands are a bit too small to type good with just 1 hand..
Therefore I was thinking of getting it replaced with an iPhone 4.
Now I was wondering if you guys think I would regret it?
The thing I'm most worried about is the speed of the web browsing. Is it really that slow on the iPhone that I will have to wait much longer than on Galaxy S II?
Also, does anyone know if I can get text reflow on iPhone when I jailbreak it?
Thank you very much already for any answers.
Kind regards,
Hybbie
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If you really wont to switch to iOS i'd wait till the iPh*** 5/4s comes out, rather than buying the old model...
EDIT: in terms of web-browsing, it isn't that much slower! (if you can live w/o flash...) iOS runs DAMN fast, even on bad hardware! (i compared my lovely SGS 2 to a friends iP4...)

Try Swype and you will forget about iPhones all together....

Yeah, I think you should switch.

To be honest only you can answer this. I personally would regret it. But that's because I've owned 3 android phones. I had the zte blade first,then the awful wildfire,and now this! Certainly my best phone. When i look at an iphone i think yeah it does some good stuff but is so bland.
No widgets and your rammed with apple stuff and forced to do things the apple way if your not willing to jail break the device.
Android devices are customizable out of the box and allow you to play about with how it looks straight away.
Like i said its solely down to you we are all going to favour each device in some way and the majority likely to follow the good ol S2! Anyway regarding the size surely its of a similar height/width?!?

jr866gooner said:
To be honest only you can answer this. I personally would regret it. But that's because I've owned 3 android phones. I had the zte blade first,then the awful wildfire,and now this! Certainly my best phone. When i look at an iphone i think yeah it does some good stuff but is so bland.
No widgets and your rammed with apple stuff and forced to do things the apple way if your not willing to jail break the device.
Android devices are customizable out of the box and allow you to play about with how it looks straight away.
Like i said its solely down to you we are all going to favour each device in some way and the majority likely to follow the good ol S2! Anyway regarding the size surely its of a similar height/width?!?
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Why would you ever switch from the Blade to the Wildfire? That's a straight downgrade.

iOS is great if you're fine with having only icons on your screen... iPhone 4 still wins display clarity IMO... but GS2 has richer colours.
browsing isn't that bad on iPhone but it is noticeably faster on GS2... antenna is better.
I agree... wait for iPhone 5\4Gs whatever they call it.

Apple products are all overpriced pieces of Sh*t. Don't bother with it.
You will lose a lot of normal functions (Bluetooth as an example. Has to go trough Itunes or something like that -.-'')
Just get a keyboard that suits you better. Swype should be included.

As a person that sells phone here's my thoughts... iPhone stunning design and well easy to use. But this is where it ends as HTC etc have android now its easy to use but look at the way it does things... syncing android is instant with Gmail, plug it into pc it turns into a external hard drive/memory card drag and drop any file you want to it from any pc of Mac.
Bluetooth isn't just for audio.
You can customize it all day and all night uses a micro USB cable everywhere has one. Memory cards not built in memory. Give you a idea in the shop where I work we sell around 55 contracts a week and since the first week of Jan we have only sold 4 iphones. That is a very low number as of android handsets we have done say 75% of all contract sold
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Why would you ever switch from the Blade to the Wildfire? That's a straight downgrade.
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Drowned my blade in coca cola...
It was a sad day! Insurance couldn't give me a new blade and i unfortunately chose a wildfire all the while wishing i had tried my luck for a desire!

Thank you all for your answers.
I think I'm at least going to wait until the new iphone comes out then.
After that, I'll have to see like everyone else hours it stands against GSII.
Thanks again!
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As a person that sells phone here's my thoughts... iPhone stunning design and well easy to use. But this is where it ends as HTC etc have android now its easy to use but look at the way it does things... syncing android is instant with Gmail, plug it into pc it turns into a external hard drive/memory card drag and drop any file you want to it from any pc of Mac.
Bluetooth isn't just for audio.
You can customize it all day and all night uses a micro USB cable everywhere has one. Memory cards not built in memory. Give you a idea in the shop where I work we sell around 55 contracts a week and since the first week of Jan we have only sold 4 iphones. That is a very low number as of android handsets we have done say 75% of all contract sold
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I agree with everything above. Again, it boils down to what is important for you. I also thought about iPhone 4, but SGS II prevailed big time, due to things I do with it. You can copy music, videos, pictures any time, hassle free. Really. I never really felt comfortable working with iTunes, never knew what stuff would be deleted. Big argument for me also was the ability to copy and play divx files without needing to convert. I watch loads of movies; just copy to phone and you're good to go. It's a cheesy line really, but think what you plan to do with it.
I went with SGS II and do not regret.

Try swype
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I think since your asking complete strangers your already regretting. I like freedom but android isn't for the computer illiterate.
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The iOS browser never crashes! Also the compatiblity issues such as updates, Arabic language support, these are the main good things abt iPhone. GALAXY S II will the best snatphone ever having a/m points.
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Ayhamov said:
The iOS browser never crashes! Also the compatiblity issues such as updates, Arabic language support, these are the main good things abt iPhone. GALAXY S II will the best snatphone ever having a/m points.
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What?
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I'd say use what you like and feel comfortable with, since each phone has it's pros and cons.

simonthor said:
Apple products are all overpriced pieces of Sh*t. Don't bother with it.
You will lose a lot of normal functions (Bluetooth as an example. Has to go trough Itunes or something like that -.-'')
Just get a keyboard that suits you better. Swype should be included.
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.... what?

There's a swype version on cydia btw and it looks to be working well judging by the youtube video
If you dont mind the boring walls of icons then youll be fine with the iPhone 4 which has better battery life and gps and the apps to boot.
You'll be missing things like the filesystem and the tweaking on the SGS2 though

Don't forget the loss of flash and better media playback.

Ok I need yall help badly thinking of returning the evo3d for SGS2

Ok I purchased the evo3d on launch day, but I am not satisfied with it at all, now my disclaimer I HATE SAMSUNG but it was due to the old samsung phones A460, A600, A660. The Sprint epic had so many problems that i only had it for 4 days then returned it. I said a long time ago I would never buy a samsung phone again. Well I think i might have lied. Im seriously am thinking of buying the new Sprint within aka SGS2 with it launches in aug. I have been a HTC user for 8 years since the 6600 but Im so dissatisfied in the performance of the evo3d and htc with its locked bootloaders. Now the one thing I might have to give up is sense I will miss it but Im hearing good things about this exynos chip on the sgs2. I need someone to assure me that the problems with the epic will not be in the sgs2 like micro sd problems or black screen of death or bluetooth dropping in and out or the major one GPS issues. I have to make up my mind in the next 48 hours. Can any one really offer some real information to help my situation. I dont need fanboy help, I need real input. I told myself I wouldnt come to the dark side but Vader is calling me.

Sound like me man LOL.... Only thing is, there will be no exynos CPU in the US versions....been confirmed in the fcc filings. Now that could change I suppose. But as of now, they will have tegra 2 chips
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HTC will unlock its bootloaders in September. Yesterday I got in a cloudburst, my phone got really wet and behaves strangely. I will buy an evo 3d if my sgs2 dies. I really do miss sense a lot.I think in the end software experience is more important than pure raw hardware power.
Btw I had a samsung non-smartphone before and I hated it and said to myself I would never buy a samsung again but the sgs2 is a very good phone though even though I still prefer sense

lol. you guys in the u.s. deserve better man...get the gs2...its fanfuckintastic...
sent from my galaxy S2.

Haven't had any issues with gps, bluetooth, or black screens of death so I think you might like it lol
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Haha, been through the 'never samsung again' phase too (i7500) but the i9100 really is a wonderful phone and I'm glad I didn't buy the evo3d, which I also considered for some time...
Ps: I went through the 'never htc again' after the infamous missing 2d/3d drivers of the Kaiser.
Lesson to be learned: we're all these corporations' biatches. Buy the phone ;p
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Haha, been through the 'never samsung again' phase too (i7500) but the i9100 really is a wonderful phone and I'm glad I didn't buy the evo3d, which I also considered for some time...
Ps: I went through the 'never htc again' after the infamous missing 2d/3d drivers of the Kaiser.
Lesson to be learned: we're all these corporations' biatches. Buy the phone ;p
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Lmao @ drivers. I remember that ****. That phones video performance was horrible. Soon as the lights git dim, u could forget about using the camera for video or stills lol
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Ok I purchased the evo3d on launch day, but I am not satisfied with it at all, now my disclaimer I HATE SAMSUNG but it was due to the old samsung phones A460, A600, A660. The Sprint epic had so many problems that i only had it for 4 days then returned it. I said a long time ago I would never buy a samsung phone again. Well I think i might have lied. Im seriously am thinking of buying the new Sprint within aka SGS2 with it launches in aug. I have been a HTC user for 8 years since the 6600 but Im so dissatisfied in the performance of the evo3d and htc with its locked bootloaders. Now the one thing I might have to give up is sense I will miss it but Im hearing good things about this exynos chip on the sgs2. I need someone to assure me that the problems with the epic will not be in the sgs2 like micro sd problems or black screen of death or bluetooth dropping in and out or the major one GPS issues. I have to make up my mind in the next 48 hours. Can any one really offer some real information to help my situation. I dont need fanboy help, I need real input. I told myself I wouldnt come to the dark side but Vader is calling me.
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You have to look at this way. Every comment on this board is about the international SGS2 (GT-i9100). The original SGS1 (GT-i9000) didn't have anywhere near the problems of the basterdized versions that had pretty drastic hardware and software changes as demanded by the four U.S. carriers. The GT-i9000 was updated to 2.3.4 about two weeks ago and received regular updates along the way. Most of which were ignored by the U.S. carriers pissing people off who then blamed Samsung.
Sprint may have ordered a bunch of changes to the SGS2 for their version. From the leaked pics the back of the phone is different, the corners look rounder, and it appears to be thicker. Regadless, it's a CDMA/Wi-Max phone so it'll have little in common with the GSM international version. You'll be dependent on Sprint for updates, features of the international version may be gone or replaced, and you won't be able to flash international ROMs.
So until the phone's actually out, it's hard to say how much Sprint molestation was done to it. The fundamentals will be solid like the display, processor, and camera. But things like call quality, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and GPS may be different because of the different radio(s).
It could be another Epic or Sprint could leave the phone basically alone except for what had to be changed to support CDMA/Wi-Max. Until it's out, no one will know.

I returned my Evo 3d 2 days ago. The next day I hear that the devs have gotten s-off. Oh well, anyway, I am going to wait till the Within comes out. And see how it is. Then if I don't like it, I will go back to the 3d, or some other phone. Just hope it comes out soon. Went back to a Palm pre, and it is killing me!

E3d...falls short compared to expectations. You'll know in 10 minutes its no contest.
I use Launcher Pro...makes it even faster.
Anyone have hands on with performances on these two different chips? Wouldn't imagine you'd detect much on this device?

Thanks for everyones feedback but if the u.s version is tegra 2 then i might keep my evo3d I might have to sell my evo3d on craigslist and wait past my 30 days, which is up Saturday and Im really disappointed in the evo3d but im so so so scared of a samsung device although the more i see it the more I might make the jump. decisions decisions. From all of my research the tegra 2 is the least of the three,(exynos,msm8660,tegra 2) all 1.2's can anyone speak on the chips in the non-exynos sgs2's

If you like rooting and Custom Roms and are a general XDA user i'd never buy a completely new phone when you dont know anything about it and if its gonna have root and stuff^^
I havent had the evo3d in hands because its not out in my country but i tested the SGS2 and the Sensation alot. So i have to emphasize this is my PERSONAL opinion
I have a DesireHD. I love it. It has gotten some bad reviews in the beginning when it first came out especially about battery life. Now with custom roms based on 2.3.3 it lasts me 2days and the UI is 100% smooth. But the bad reviews still stick i think...
To come to your decision, all 3 phones (sgs2, evo3d, sensation) are very new and still have problems. The sensation looks very nice but the one i tested was quite laggy. Sense 3d ran better on my DHD than on the sensation... I tried it side by side in the store, and still has locked bootloader - but HTC will unlock it so in a few months the Sensation maybe has awesome custom roms. Its too early to tell.
SGS2, nice phone hardware wise, but most ugly and useless software that i tried based on Android. When you're used to sense it just gives you nothing And when you're used to beautiful clear shiny SLCD screens you'll maybe have some problems with the OLED from the sgs2. The model i had in hand looked aweful compared to my DHD, the colors just arent right. There may be better ones but for me white white is much more important than black black. If that makes sense^^
About the chip: The sgs2 exynox is a powerful chip. But software does not really support it atm. For example Gameloft games. At least tegra2 has some cool games... I prefer qualcomm chip based phones - there i know i'll have compatibility.
So in my opinion the new dualcore phones do not have ANY advantage over singlecore 1ghz phones ATM (ok hdmi out is nice to have ). Who knows what will be in half a year when the software is better for the dualcore babies. But now? But these are just my thoughts.
I guess SGS2 will have good custom software faster than any other phone because of its popularity. If you can find one with a good screen and nice colors i guess go for it

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If you like rooting and Custom Roms and are a general XDA user i'd never buy a completely new phone when you dont know anything about it and if its gonna have root and stuff^^
I havent had the evo3d in hands because its not out in my country but i tested the SGS2 and the Sensation alot. So i have to emphasize this is my PERSONAL opinion
I have a DesireHD. I love it. It has gotten some bad reviews in the beginning when it first came out especially about battery life. Now with custom roms based on 2.3.3 it lasts me 2days and the UI is 100% smooth. But the bad reviews still stick i think...
To come to your decision, all 3 phones (sgs2, evo3d, sensation) are very new and still have problems. The sensation looks very nice but the one i tested was quite laggy. Sense 3d ran better on my DHD than on the sensation... I tried it side by side in the store, and still has locked bootloader - but HTC will unlock it so in a few months the Sensation maybe has awesome custom roms. Its too early to tell.
SGS2, nice phone hardware wise, but most ugly and useless software that i tried based on Android. When you're used to sense it just gives you nothing And when you're used to beautiful clear shiny SLCD screens you'll maybe have some problems with the OLED from the sgs2. The model i had in hand looked aweful compared to my DHD, the colors just arent right. There may be better ones but for me white white is much more important than black black. If that makes sense^^
About the chip: The sgs2 exynox is a powerful chip. But software does not really support it atm. For example Gameloft games. At least tegra2 has some cool games... I prefer qualcomm chip based phones - there i know i'll have compatibility.
So in my opinion the new dualcore phones do not have ANY advantage over singlecore 1ghz phones ATM (ok hdmi out is nice to have ). Who knows what will be in half a year when the software is better for the dualcore babies. But now? But these are just my thoughts.
I guess SGS2 will have good custom software faster than any other phone because of its popularity. If you can find one with a good screen and nice colors i guess go for it
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Try and play a 1080p movie in a Single core 1ghz phone,then you will see the difference ..
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testando said:
Try and play a 1080p movie in a Single core 1ghz phone,then you will see the difference ..
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You mean 1080p Adobe Flash video?
What I don't like about LCD is that it can't display black, but OLED can display all colors.

Any heavy complex multitasking condition on a device proves the value of dual core.

First, I want to clear some things up here..
phyba said:
Sound like me man LOL.... Only thing is, there will be no exynos CPU in the US versions....been confirmed in the fcc filings. Now that could change I suppose. But as of now, they will have tegra 2 chips
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I believe you are refering to this article: http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/06/another-galaxy-s-ii-passes-through-the-fcc-possibly-rockin-a-t/ (or another article on a different site).
If you look at the model number closely, you will see that the Tegra 2 phone that you are talking about has the model number GT-I9103. This is not the US galaxy SII. It is the Galaxy Z, the more "affordable little brother." (http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/01/samsung-galaxy-z-galaxy-s-iis-affordable-little-brother-now/).
I'm not confirming that the US varieties of the SGSII will not have Tegra 2s, but I'm saying that there was no confirmations of US SGSIIs having Tegra 2s in the first place.
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From the Epic forums, some people are saying that the leaked picture wasn't the Galaxy SII (within), but it is the Sprint's version of the Infuse. But I have no sources for this one.
Anyways, personally, I recommend that you hold out until the Galaxy SII for Sprint comes out. On paper, the SGSII beats the Evo 3D in almost every spec criteria. HTC has better support and more timely updates though.
But I'm waiting for the Within.