[HELP]Need some Explanations, thanks. - XPERIA X8 General

Hi everyone, I just bought my Xperia X8 a month ago, and I couldn't understand some terms about Android.
However, I've learned some basics in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774859
But I don't think thats all, I still don't know what's bootloader and stuff like that, please help, thanks

sotongzxc said:
Hi everyone, I just bought my Xperia X8 a month ago, and I couldn't understand some terms about Android.
However, I've learned some basics in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774859
But I don't think thats all, I still don't know what's bootloader and stuff like that, please help, thanks
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Tell us what u want to know and we gladly will explain bout it ..about bootloader,basic user like us didnt have to know much about it..but, if u still want to know about it,its a sony program that checks every system [email protected]@kernel before booting into android..the file has some hash and signature and if u replace it with others,your phone woot boot again..thats what i noe about it feel free to asking.

anyway, wrong branch.
PEOPLE READ RULES ><

Just calm down.. It's not the end of the world if somebody posts in the wrong subforum.. As for what you said on another thread about other thread starters being banned for starting threads that have been previously answered, bit harsh don't you think? I don't like the forums being flooded with the same thing anymore than you do but don't be so f**king harsh to everyone, they're all humans and have made a simple mistake.

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thanks Martin
you got the point , i am new here also
and from 3 days i am trying to know what you talking about and frankly some guys try to explain for me but still a lot of things are not understood
they must make a sticky thread for what Rom and how to install it and all the principles things
first port of call. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ start reading.
ayman morsy said:
thanks Martin
you got the point , i am new here also
and from 3 days i am trying to know what you talking about and frankly some guys try to explain for me but still a lot of things are not understood
they must make a sticky thread for what Rom and how to install it and all the principles things
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haha, you joined this forum this month, and you think you can undestand it all?
I have been here a little while..I still get surprised with what I can find on this forum.
If I want to learn something new, I spend a great deal of hours trying to find something I can use, and when I find something, I spend alot of time reading up on it, searching even more in the same topic.
All in all. The wiki is not perfect, the forum is not perfect, but in my oppinion, its dam close. I know a bunch of paysites that provides alot less info then you find here.
We are a bunch of ppl who love what we are doing, but demanding more and more and more is not the way to do it.
And the funny thing here is: Imagine if you got all the answers, and are happy with it
Imagine then...In a few days, another guy ask the same question, ofcourse you help him....and then, in a few days, another thread is started with similar questions. and so on...
Then you start thinking; hmmm, maybe we should make a sticky with this info, so that the noobs dont ask so many times, I will make it easy for them.
So there..you got a sticky with the topic, and alot of good answers (now you have become a more experienced user, uyou are getting good with the terms used here, you know what stuff means, like in.ex RUU, ROM, Hard-SPL etc..)
And again, you are happy to help ppl out, you start using the language used on this forum, you use the knowlege you have mastered in some degree.
And your sticky is full of wisdom and knowlege.
But...after 50 guys have asked the same question (in many diffrent ways, nice, begging, cursing, hateful and so on) you start thinking:
Dam, will those huys never learn to read? Hell, I have given them everything I know, the best way I can.
You are starting to become lazy with posting in your sticky, cause you have done so before, so many times...even on pm (private messages) ppl are asking for personal guidence, and they need it now (and your girlfriend is waiting in the bedroom, or dinner is ready, or you need to go to work, or you have damn much stuff you need to fix with the latest w/e, and are quite finished with that old ****, cause you have moved way past that stage long time ago )
And suddenly you find yourself writing something like I am writing now...
welcome to XDA
@itje
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m.schmidler said:
Moved...Please, give feedback, make this forum more useful !!!!!!!
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OK. we will change ALL...we will make it like in other forums...a "How 2 post" so that EVERY post looks the same...so that noob can follow...
BUT YOU check ALL NEW post if they are posted the right way.
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NO man. IF you cannnot follow the instructions in the threads...DO NOT FLASH!!!
I spent 1 year ONLY READING before flashing my first rom!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO don´t come here with 5 posts and tell us how to do our job
Well i dont wish to be this forum like any other "plx crack this phorumzz", i think its just as it should be.
besides, when i started flashing my htc devices, it took me 10 mins to find xda-dev's, and another 30 min to figure out what buttons to press to get the stuff i wanted to have.
so dont tell us its too difficult - if youre not smart enough its not our concern.
use google for other forums if youre not pleased with the offers in here.
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Well i dont wish to be this forum like any other "plx crack this phorumzz", i think its just as it should be.
besides, when i started flashing my htc devices, it took me 10 mins to find xda-dev's, and another 30 min to figure out what buttons to press to get the stuff i wanted to have.
so dont tell us its too difficult - if youre not smart enough its not our concern.
use google for other forums if youre not pleased with the offers in here.
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if you need something, use search and READ ALL, schmidler
i know, it takes time ...

Smart phone junkies..... Ya Junkies LOL!!!

I created an account to ask them a simple question and they made such a big deal of it like they dont have any answers just attiude. I ask a question that maybe everyone know but I didnt, I asked ( can you put a touch pro rom on the wing). OK maybe its a dumb question but I didnt Know the answer. Do you know the threated and made such laughs out of that question that I never got an answer (I assumed no). I sent a reply about all the laughs and (I struck a nerve).
ANYHOW I AM SO HAPPY I ASK TO HAVE MY ACCOUNT DELETED BY THEM.
Also I notice damn there everything on roms, is from xda developers.
And if any of you is from smart phone JUNKIES then I apologize for any disrespect, BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT TO GET IT!!!
And Ummm...........(Fu*k SmartPhone Bumps!!)
ahhhhhhhhh poor baby got his feelin hurt....you want me to rock you to sleep...deal with it buddy...
spj all the way !!!!!!
dude..it's nothing serious. sometimes they just play around on there and they dont mean no harm.
spj FTW!
ok dash the co-founder from spj. dont know why you have to start beef at other places and many of the users over there are from here or ppcgeeks and no one else has the troubles or complaints that you address. the roms arent from xda since they are mainly gsm providers and they are from ppcgeeks and all credit is given to the authors and a post to the thread is linked as well. we also have many spj made roms there so i dont know what you are trying to get at. but anyways you kept private messaging staff, posting that rom question in the release areas even though your questions was not clearly a release, you got mad if your question wasnt answered 3 minutes after you posted, and much more. all you did was wine and cry and even made a thread trying to act like a tough guy. im not going to say anything mean back to you since you are playing childish games trying to get attention from people. i wish you the best of luck in your endevours with modding your ppc to its fullest. good luck
sincerely D/\SH
www.smartphonejunkie.com supporter/enthusiast
Grow up man. What are you like 8?! No need to be bashing any site.
Im not bashing any sites im just saying what happen. I know they play it wasnt that, its the fact that it seems that everytime I ask something its a joke or they tell me dont ask a stupid question. I know you guys joke if someone constantly makes the same mistake, But if im really asking and not making any mistakes and you dont know or dont what to answer just leave it blank. And like I apologized to anyone who is here from there I am not starting any beef. I didnt go there dissing them bragging on xda and im not doing that here, im stateing my opinion on that site. (I am entitled to freedom of speech and opinon huh?) Andmy feelings far from hurt wasnt there for friends or feeling.
But like I say before no disrespect to anyone here from there.
And I know and already knew some of you were or is from there. But like I say......Ummmm(F... Na you spj feel played enough.. Ha Ha)
struk a nerve? this coming from the guy that got soo hurt u came to another site to cry about it.. well if its attention u wanted your gunna get alot of it..
AND WHAT DO U MEAN UR NOT STARTING ANY BEEF, COMMENT LIKE THIS
" And Ummm...........(Fu*k SmartPhone Bumps!!)"
MAKE THAT HARD TO BELIEVE.. then you have the nerve to say NO DISRESPECT, grow up.. get a clue and stop contradicting your self..
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struk a nerve? this coming from the guy that got soo hurt u came to another site to cry about it.. well if its attention u wanted your gunna get alot of it..
AND WHAT DO U MEAN UR NOT STARTING ANY BEEF, COMMENT LIKE THIS
" And Ummm...........(Fu*k SmartPhone Bumps!!)"
MAKE THAT HARD TO BELIEVE..
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Was here before I sas at spj so get it right and if you feel played by how I feel then sorry for ya
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Was here before I sas at spj so get it right and if you feel played by how I feel then sorry for ya
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you joined spj and xda in the same month and year so with the question you asked that you got made fun of for was totally odd. member of both communities for more than half a year and still ask that? you have to admit, it was funny...
Peewee43 said:
Was here before I sas at spj so get it right and if you feel played by how I feel then sorry for ya
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ACTUALLY I DONT FEEL PLAYED AND HAS NO EFFECT ON ME WHAT SO EVER.. ONE LESS NOOB ON MY SITE..
and to the staff here on xda- i know im no one to say what goes on here, but this is soo off topic.. shouldnt he have started this thread in the GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA, not in the HERALD section?
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you joined spj and xda in the same month and year so with the question you asked that you got made fun of for was totally odd. member of both communities for more than half a year and still ask that? you have to admit, it was funny...
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I know it was funny when I really found out and put it together. But they didnt have to call me stupid and stuff. Thats all im saying and I wasnt there that long. And I wasnt on here like I am now. I am just starting to flash a lot and Im just starting to put time in on cooking my own rom. But to end This all.
FOR THOSE WHO FEEL PLAYED BY MY COMMITS
ITS ONLY MY OPINION JUST LEAVE IT ALONE
AND TELL SPJ MY BAD FOR GOING OFF.
klone96 said:
ACTUALLY I DONT FEEL PLAYED AND HAS NO EFFECT ON ME WHAT SO EVER.. ONE LESS NOOB ON MY SITE..
and to the staff here on xda- i know im no one to say what goes on here, but this is soo off topic.. shouldnt he have started this thread in the GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA, not in the HERALD section?
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Point Proven!!
klone96 said:
ACTUALLY I DONT FEEL PLAYED AND HAS NO EFFECT ON ME WHAT SO EVER.. ONE LESS NOOB ON MY SITE..
and to the staff here on xda- i know im no one to say what goes on here, but this is soo off topic.. shouldnt he have started this thread in the GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA, not in the HERALD section?
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Point Proven!! I have no problem being off your site and you right should have been in off topic.... I see a mice in the house. Its cool though. Thanks.
Also Xda would you please move this to off topic for me Thanks alot or just trash it. It rally isnt that big of a deal to me as it seems to be to others.
Peewee43 said:
Also Xda would you please move this to off topic for me Thanks alot or just trash it. It rally isnt that big of a deal to me as it seems to be to others.
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"Its better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth an remove all doubt!"
I kinda thought this the ppc modding and what not was one big community not that one site is better than the other. Some sites get things before others who cares we all have one goal and thats to make our ppc's do what we want them to do.
Dude, nobody called you anything derogatory. Here is your exact message and the replies. Word for word the same.
Question:
"Does touchpro work on wing? Thanks alot people for your help!"
Answer 1:
"what do you mean does it work on the wing......touchpro is a phone....so no it will not work.....closing thread."
Answer 2:
"Lmao... Wow, that was funny... "
Answer 3:
"the wing is a t-mobile phone but does the touch pro work on it? i have no clue lmao...."
That is the end of the thread. So you asked a question that is pretty funny to anybody in the PPC world. And you got answers that would be expected. No one called you an idiot or anything. So I don't know what your problem is.
Sorry to XDA staff for this thread. Our stuff shouldn't be clogging your boards.
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Dude, nobody called you anything derogatory. Here is your exact message and the replies. Word for word the same.
Question:
"Does touchpro work on wing? Thanks alot people for your help!"
Answer 1:
"what do you mean does it work on the wing......touchpro is a phone....so no it will not work.....closing thread."
Answer 2:
"Lmao... Wow, that was funny... "
Answer 3:
"the wing is a t-mobile phone but does the touch pro work on it? i have no clue lmao...."
That is the end of the thread. So you asked a question that is pretty funny to anybody in the PPC world. And you got answers that would be expected. No one called you an idiot or anything. So I don't know what your problem is.
Sorry to XDA staff for this thread. Our stuff shouldn't be clogging your boards.
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lol... wow... that was funny... still I see no direspect here... no need to come to other site, trying to vent in forum that have nothing to do w/ said incedent.... grow up my friend... had u actually taken things in a mature manner, perhaps all parties couldve move forward in a mutual and positve way, unfortunatlly do to your action that was not possible... please, do not crap the rest of the entire ppc community with your nonsense buddy... people have better ways to spend there time than on this...
thanks
The crazy part is you all keep commiting when I been gave up Move on
haha i remeber this, i closed that thread, we get people who spam all the time with questions like this to piss us off....so assuming thats what u were doing i closed thread and others thought it was a tad funny, as i still do.....good luck cooking your own rom....and by the way your going to need a kitchen for the wing not the pro...(just in case u werent sure).

Can we stop bashing new people in here please

I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
Can you give us example what you're saying?
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justwonder said:
Can you give us example what you're saying?
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justwonder said:
Can you give us example what you're saying?
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You being serious?
zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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100% agree!
Well said!
zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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Somebody needs a nap ....
But on a serious note I guess we should just stop having rules altogether ....
If bashing people is what you call expecting people even newbs to follow the rules then I guess bashing it is ...
Not totally disagreeing with you, but partially , yes sometimes vets are harsh with newbs, but if 500 people walked up to you and asked you the same question over and over how long would it take for you to get tired of it ....
ok then i just have my rule
Well I dont want to continue because it seems the majority of vets are annoyed at new users. So now I will have this rule from now on to make things simple. Any time I see this behavoir towards newbies , I will post a link to www.ppcgeeks.com . So since newbies are a problem to the vets here, I will redirect them to different website. That should handle all the problems.
zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
It's very easy to pop in here and create ANOTHER useless thread asking everyone to be nice to the newbies.
All the senior members here were all newbies once. All the chefs and developers were newbies too. They didn't get to be where they are by starting up useless HELP ME threads because they were too lazy to get off their behinds and help themselves.
I've been here since 2006 and my post count very recently crossed 500. I've hung out at XDA almost every single day since the day I officially joined and about another year before that without being a member. I've learnt A LOT over here and given everything that I've learnt, if I were to have posted a HELP ME thread everytime I wanted something, I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now. Think about how many threads and posts we would have from heavily contributing members if they were to take the HELP ME route.
I've been around here so long and know enough people here that no one would have an issue with me opening a thread for any query that I have, yet I don't... why? because XDA is a repository. Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
I can understand how overwhelming everything can be for a newbie, but that still doesn't excuse the HELP ME threads. SEARCH, Look around, do your due diligence and you will find what you need. Nothing comes easy. You have to work for it. Google Search makes things exceptionally easy. Use it and stop crapping this place up.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet. I swear to god, if I was a mod here, the trash can would be overflowing.
Please... stop these incessant rants.
@zarpy.. PPCGeeks is miniscule compared to XDA. Trust me, the mods and the members over there take care of their forum more aggressively than XDA. It's only a matter of time before they start booting LAZY newbies.
Yeah I agree with this, I find it funny like people were born with the knowledge and talk to people who are clueless like they were never in there shoes before. I myself just got a HD2 not to long ago never really used a phone of the sort with apps and etc. I am however tech smart with PCs and like to learn on my own as it benefits you in the long run so I've picked up the basics just by doing. But not everyone is tech smart especially with phones as a lot of it I do not have a clue what it means even though I am tech smart, but I'm learning what does what slowly and how to install different types of apps, games, and themes
If some of you veterans with these phones disagree with this, your simply a liar and should go play in a fire
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You being serious?
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Don't you want to understand what is going on, before you're saying?
Can someone explain what this has to do with "Themes and Apps" please?
Honestly...Noobs...
Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.
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Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.
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LOL... Oh boy that was funny. LOL
HELP ME IM NEW and opps i had caps on four icons to look goodier lyke iphone has
I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all. Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted? I'm willing to bet a very small percentage did infact, READ ALL of the rules. So many (not all) of you really have no room to point fingers.
ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS ROFL AT THE OP!!!
OMFG you actually started a thread because someone detailed a few rules!!
And the example you posted of getting bashed....i just reported the entire thread for closure as it is a complete waste of time...much like this one!!
Thanks for the chuckle over breakfast... most hilarious!
wolfee said:
I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
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Bingo!!
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But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
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Regardless you wouldnt start new threads asking "Whats that app called....."
or another find eg is the one here "Please help me install icons" i mean WTF, if the guy has icons, he got them from a thread right? EXACTLY, so y not post the question there? common sense no?
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Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
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Im sorry to sound like a jerk, but who the hell cares about this....
first forum rule is "USE ENGLISH"
therefore who gives a crap, if you cant speak the language use one of the million free translators and post in English, followed by your native language.
wolfee said:
Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
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Ok the reason you would get bashed is if your asking easily findable questions.
Someone ask a dumb question i think they should get bashed, before i answer ANY questions i google search for an answer, if i find one on the first page, the the person asking the question will get no answer and flamed/bashed.
wolfee said:
The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all.
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How about people dont post stupid questions? do you ever think that with the size of this site, the vet users dont get p*ssed off with noobs asking the same things over and over again?
wolfee said:
Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
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these peope with compasion, while good for you, they are actually bad, because in stead of forcing you into a position where you actually have to search after being bashed and told that it is a stupid/easy/useless question they just give the answers.
wolfee said:
It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
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WHAT COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE!!!!
WTF man, seriously you think we should spend our time teaching noobs?8 years ago i used to get smashed to pieces but the likes of Olipro, and if you think people bash now you should have seen him when he was about...wow...i think you would be crying in the corner!
I run 2 HUGE threads in this forum, and i got that sick after the thousands of idiots that couldnt even be bothered to read the instructions and just posted things like "Help i cant do it"
we need more Olipro's to get rid of the IDIOT noobs who CANNOT BE ARSED SEARCHING.
TEACHING ROFL, jes, would you like me to come to your house and dress you for school too?
wolfee said:
The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
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Again more rubbish, people not a days are just too LAZY to do things for themselves.
how about this "Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer"
ROFL PWNED!!!
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Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted?
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Yes
and initially i asked stupid questions and i got flames and bashed, but i wasnt a ***** and i didnt cry about it ans start threads asking people to stop bashing me.
i learnt that if i was getting bashed there was a reason and i accepted that, where as now we hae the folowing:
1: Guy ask Stupid Question
2: Vets Bash
3: Guy crys
4: Guy opens more threads asking about "why am i getting bashed"
5: vets see the thread and get more P*ssed dish out mroe bashing
6: Guy crys more
7: Guy posts the eg of why he gets bashed in the new "why am i getting bashed" thread
8: Vets come along and thing WTF is this guys problem is he stupid?
here is the ULTIMATE easy solution
Search using xda search, search using google search, when posting your question past in the URL for the results of your search so people can see how you searched/what terms you used
then i Guarantee there will be no flames, and probably a few suggestion on changing search terms etc
Read and Search is the key to not posting usless threads
leepriestenator said:
XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now.
Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet.
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Couldn´t be more than agree with you leepriestenator, except for the part of the 10k posts
I am almost there
P.S Mods please move to proper discussion place
MG
I know alot of people read Mystics Genius post and thought damn cavemen exist in this day and age.
Laughing my a&+) off hahahaha you said 8 years ago you got bashed here by olipro. Your join date is 2008 its 2010 .....hahahahha where"s your math teacher he did a horrible job hahahahaha.
You this thread was opened by a newbie that wants to know why he got thrash. Your english teacher didnt teach you how to read properly hahaha.
Iam a vet here , I opened this thread because Iam tired of this attitude thats starting to take place.
You remembered when you used to get bashed and thrashed , so you think its right. How dumb are you , so if your dad beat you everyday, does that mean you beat your son? I hope not!!! You suppose to learn , but you stayed aan idiot all this time. 8 years and you learn nothing hahahahaha your the true definition of moron. Iam not mad, I think your a joke hahahahaha.
I just hope you guys don't expect your doctors, lawyers, police officers and everyone else of importance in life to answer your questions...that have been asked and asked over and over again. The answers to your heart problems are on the internet. A little Bing search will find them. You don't need to bother your doctor with clarification questions.
Please stop harrassing your lawyers. They answer the exact same questions you ask time and again. They must be so sick of answering those questions over and over again. All of the answers you can think of are clearly posted online. Do a search of Google or Bing and stop asking your important people questions.
hmmm.... i feel that as newbie

Please Read! (My sentiments)

This is what Ive noticed, especially when there are some new update for modules and ROM's;
1. A massive repeated posting regarding new updates.
Its not that we dont want to help you guy's who has difficulties installing ROMs/Module to your phone, but please before posting new topic make sure you consult SEARCH button first, then if you dont find any answer thru searching then its the time to consult. I dont know if we are just lazy to search or what. This is all for us to have a well organized Section and for us to find topic easily. Isnt great to have a single thread so that newbie will not have to search back and post a new topic with already answered one? As you can see Forum for X8 and other are already Categorized, so please post in the right section. Some user made an effort already to organize the topics by making a FAQ with it, so i suggest we should use it for general concern about specific topic. Maybe we can control this massive posting by just dont answering there query if we knew that there question already been answered. Hmm dont think that's rude but i think it will help. Coz if we answer it, they will keep on doing that all over again if they encounter another problem. I also admit that I did this sometime thats why if you could notice i use "we". And i want to change it.
2. Flamming
also known as bashing, is hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users. It is clearly noticeable, that we argue in certain things, but please not to the point that we are already fighting/degrading and hurting someone's feeling so please RESPECT each other, If your good/great then be it, but we have to welcome a newbie gracefully, lets make them feels that they were home and accepted. Im sure we once get here clueless about things or if not, not so knowledgeable enough, we are not in a competition here and we don't question your greatness and knowledge, were proud of it. This is a training ground not a battle ground. Were here to have a harmonious relationship with others, besides we are all FAMILY here. I know for some reason that we just dont stay here to get what we want to our phone, but simply to help each other.
3. Patience
I know it is good to have all what we want, but please stop forcing/requesting repeatedly to our developer, we didnt hired them to work for us, besides they are sharing there work for FREE, and even they ask for some donations, well they have the right to do so, as they are working for us. Imagine if all our developer will be get hired by SE and charge us for all their great work. They will have a better career there, and what do you think will happened to us who are just benefited by there free work? Think of that. So please let's be patient, extend your patience give all there time to find the solution. BTW reporting bugs is different from asking/requesting. It just make our dev's annoyed and might lose interest to work for our many cries. They want to give us a stable home for our phone and they knew about that, so we dont have to tell them what to do, well in fact they know more than you do.
These are just some of my observation. Dont get me wrong here coz its for the common good. I may not give you any ROM,s or Module but i can give you Life Lesson and Love. And if you will hate me for this, well sorry but i will just love you and hug you until such time you realize what I am saying here.
Isn't it great to have a good relationship with everyone and i doubt that you don't feel something when you help someone! I just dont get ROM, Modules and learning here, the most important I gained friends!
Well, it takes two to cuddle and i totally agree with u on this
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Best thread ever ;*
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Oo i have some question whąt if doixanh said in his thread with.froyobread to report bugs cuz he wąnna fix them? Im just asking ;D Love you xD
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proadi96 said:
Oo i have some question whąt if doixanh said in his thread with.froyobread to report bugs cuz he wąnna fix them? Im just asking ;D Love you xD
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Well i think its normal for them to ask, coz we the user use more our phone than they do. It will took them sometime to release a ROM is they will test every single function in there work. There work is to provide us the ROM/Modules. If they asked us to look for bugs, then that's also the time for us to work, in return with there great work. Coz i know that they will stop developing if we dont tell them about the problem we encountered. Besides they also get idea's to us. Many heads are better than One. And this is also what you called helping hands. Give and Take process not Take and Take (that's a bad idea) .. wink. oh btw I love ya too.
Ok thanks now you leave myself clear about everything
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I wish mods and members read this.
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Ok thanks now you leave myself clear about everything
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Finally you get my point with oc and uv! Juhuuuu im happy now i help someone if you need more help just PM me
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proadi96 said:
Finally you get my point with oc and uv! Juhuuuu im happy now i help someone if you need more help just PM me
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Yes and im so thankful for the new learning's and most of all I appreciated your effort to explain it to me in english. I can say that your English is improving. mwuah!
deedii said:
Yes and im so thankful for the new learning's and most of all I appreciated your effort to explain it to me in english. I can say that your English is improving. mwuah!
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And everything without google translate
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Sry for spamming here deedii but it seems the mods deleted the other thread with the links i posted, i mean wtf???????????
edit: it seems that the mods are deleting the multi touch related topics without checking the content deeply so i'll pm some1 with some knowledge , again sry for spamming
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I agree with this thread and i have add one thing for all X8 users:
I daily check some forums (not only x8) and what i mostly see is people that reply to newbie posts in a rude and useless way, we all hate double posts, no search, requests, stupid posts but keep in mind that when you reply " yo, arent you able to use search ?" "use the dammit search!" , these are posts count at my eyes and rude replies.( i hate them )
If you find that someone did the same post over and over, if someone didn't use the search button or whatever, just ignore to reply and pm or report me and i will do something.
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Sry for spamming here deedii but it seems the mods deleted the other thread with the links i posted, i mean wtf???????????
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I think they will not delete it without a reason or purpose. Maybe your post was against the rules (i dont know), but im pretty sure Mod's here has its reason, and if it doesnt abuse/break rules then you can consult our moderators. Im pretty sure that they will give time to listen to your query or statement. Remember that they were chosen well and proved enough to be helpful. I think no mods here are using there power as a reason.
I firmly believes in the power of reason, not in the use of power/force as a reason.
Edited: GHoSTABUD, i see the one you posted, htc MT driver that uses synaptic right? Thats promising and pretty useful in the future i think.
af974 said:
I agree with this thread and i have add one thing for all X8 users:
I daily check some forums (not only x8) and what i mostly see is people that reply to newbie posts in a rude and useless way, we all hate double posts, no search, requests, stupid posts but keep in mind that when you reply " yo, arent you able to use search ?" "use the dammit search!" , these are posts count at my eyes and rude replies.( i hate them )
If you find that someone did the same post over and over, if someone didn't use the search button or whatever, just ignore to reply and pm or report me and i will do something.
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I totally agree with you, If we dont have something good to say nor help better we keep our mouth shut, coz words is extremely hurtful. We encourage newbie to learn so that one day they will contribute to us, not discourage them because of our rude manners. I always say this, make them feel at home. Coz were once a newbie too.
DON'T DO UNTO OTHERS WHAT YOU DON'T WANT OTHERS DO UNTO YOU
I deletd the that thread (and other 2) because there was another one made before and as the multitouch thread in the past, i've found useless having 8 threads for the same purpose.
Anyway i did copy your post and another one from the delòeted one and the sticky that i made early.
EDIT: and that's why today i've got a pm from an x8 user:
where are you at? lately the x8 forum has become a big mess with useless threads multiple times
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GHoSTABUD said:
Sry for spamming here deedii but it seems the mods deleted the other thread with the links i posted, i mean wtf???????????
edit: it seems that the mods are deleting the multi touch related topics without checking the content deeply so i'll pm some1 with some knowledge , again sry for spamming
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There should really be a separate thread for each rom opened up where all the bugs noticed and reported back in the development thread will get addressed with the solution.
af974 said:
I deletd the that thread (and other 2) because there was another one made before and as the multitouch thread in the past, i've found useless having 8 threads for the same purpose.
Anyway i did copy your post and another one from the delòeted one and the sticky that i made early.
EDIT: and that's why today i've got a pm from an x8 user:
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thanks for ur reply man and i'm sry for accusing without knowing carefully what i should have said
anyways i pm'd 2 dev's now n i'm w8ing for a reply so the question is if what i've found is actually a dt driver is it ok if i open a thread in the dev section or should i pm some1 else who can actually develope it and he should do what he has to do :S confused ...
anyways thanks again man
UAL4588 said:
There should really be a separate thread for each rom opened up where all the bugs noticed and reported back in the development thread will get addressed with the solution.
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Yes and this will organize everything.
That's a nice idea indeed.
You only need someone that take care of the thread while copying all reported bugs and fixes from the thread to the first page, otherwise it will be difficult to track bugs.
UAL4588 said:
There should really be a seperate thread for each rom opened up where all the bugs noticed and reported back in the development thread will get addressed with the solution.
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No worrie man, i didn't take it as an offence .....sometimes mods are seen as cops and you are not happy when you got an infraction from them
Anyway if you will find that it is a driver or something related to development, you can make a thread in dev forum:
_ give proper how to install
_ give credit where it's right
_ dont post any help questions
and you are done.
GHoSTABUD said:
thanks for ur reply man and i'm sry for accusing without knowing carefully what i should have said
anyways i pm'd 2 dev's now n i'm w8ing for a reply so the question is if what i've found is actually a dt driver is it ok if i open a thread in the dev section or should i pm some1 else who can actually develope it and he should do what he has to do :S confused ...
anyways thanks again man
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Frustrated Noob

Ive never been this frustrated in trying to find how to guides before. Damn it Im just trying to figure out how to install MIUI on my bell sgs2 stock ugkg2 2.3.3 phone. Do I need to update my firmware first and if so with which one since there isnt a bell sgs2 update yet and once i download this firmaware, how the heck to I extract it since they have a password and samsung-firmwares.com does not work for password. /end rant
First you need a rooted kernel which you have to flash with odin. Either cf-root or hellcats or nimph kernel. The first thing after using are rooted is to BACKUP YOUR EFS FOLDER! Then boot into cwm and install MIUI zip from there.
There is a QA thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238494
For guide on how to flash the kernel have a look in cf-root kernel thread. For easy efs backup use hellcats application or manually do it, with the instructions in the relevant thread.
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Great thanks for the reply but how do I extract KG6 2.3.4 firmware? All the firmware Ive downloaded through Samfirmware.com so far has asked for a freaken password!?!?! and I dont have the slightest clue on where to find this password. Ive tried samsung-firmwares.com without any luck..../frustrated tweeker
Daniels45 said:
Great thanks for the reply but how do I extract KG6 2.3.4 firmware? All the firmware Ive downloaded through Samfirmware.com so far has asked for a freaken password!?!?! and I dont have the slightest clue on where to find this password. Ive tried samsung-firmwares.com without any luck..../frustrated tweeker
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That's because, as you said, you are a bloody noob. If you would have spent more than 20 seconds looking, you would have either find the password (even with google, the first result has it), either the thread explaining how to install it.
These forums have thousands (guessing) of members, imagine if everyone were an idiot like you, and posting **** like this, they would have to close it down.
password is: samfirmware.com
MIUI install instructions are here
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That's because, as you said, you are a bloody noob. If you would have spent more than 20 seconds looking, you would have either find the password (even with google, the first result has it), either the thread explaining how to install it.
These forums have thousands (guessing) of members, imagine if everyone were an idiot like you, and posting **** like this, they would have to close it down.
password is: samfirmware.com
MIUI install instructions are here
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Its responses like this that show me how classless this place has become. Who the hell do you think you are ? Dont you think I havnt googled for the password first before asking here ?!?! I dont need 12 year old immature snob insults. Rather Im looking for mature, friendly, understanding responses from ADULT people who understand what it is to be a noob and that fast answers are not always easy to find, espeicailly when your new to the world of Android tweaking....thakns for nothing chump.!
Clicky here.
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Clicky here.
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Yes Im a newb and yes being a newb makes me look like Im an idiot to you know it alls but does that mean you have to be an asshole ?? I saw that video and I laughed my ass off but still, I dont wanna spend weeks looking for information that can be given in minuts !! I tried looking for quick and easy answers but nothing quite comes cloes to what i looking for. Just trying to fing the freaken password to extract kg6 firmware was a bloody pain in the but....btw samfirmware.com does not work
Daniels45 said:
Its responses like this that show me how classless this place has become.
Unfortunately its true driven mainly by users who wont search and fail to read instructions and want it all handed to them on a plate with repetitions of the same questions day after day .
I see no way around this problem as FAQS etc and rules are not read so the genuine user who asks a question as you did gets treated as if they could not be bothered to search read etc .It is partly due to the number of twelve year olds with Smartphones .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238494
jje
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JJEgan said:
Daniels45 said:
Its responses like this that show me how classless this place has become.
Unfortunately its true driven mainly by users who wont search and fail to read instructions and want it all handed to them on a plate with repetitions of the same questions day after day .
I see no way around this problem as FAQS etc and rules are not read so the genuine user who asks a question as you did gets treated as if they could not be bothered to search read etc .It is partly due to the number of twelve year olds with Smartphones .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238494
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The problem Im having is first Im clueless in regards to android phones and 2nd lots of the information Ive been able to find in regards to rooting/upgrading firmware/updating roms are conflicting so that makes me insecure (I dont wanna brick my phone) 3rd I havnt been able to find...so far...explicit information that enables me to download and extract firmware with password for my bell ugkg2 SGS2.
Looks like Im gonna stick with stock till I can find a guide that goes through all the loops that a canadian bell user like me has to go through to upgrade firmware to 2.3.4 and upgrade to the latest MIUI.....
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As a fellow Canadian and a fellow user of the Samsung Galaxy S2 from Bell, I know these phones inside and out due to hours and hours and hours and hours and weeks and days and more hours and more hours and more hours......of research. I have no problem helping you out unlike that other character who is too much of a prick to help anybody out. Let me know if you still need my help. I don't mind taking you under my wing and showing you the ropes of our beasts and the wonderful world of Android.
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As a fellow Canadian and a fellow user of the Samsung Galaxy S2 from Bell, I know these phones inside and out due to hours and hours and hours and hours and weeks and days and more hours and more hours and more hours......of research. I have no problem helping you out unlike that other character who is too much of a prick to help anybody out. Let me know if you still need my help. I don't mind taking you under my wing and showing you the ropes of our beasts and the wonderful world of Android.
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Thanks man for being a NICE guy...something people around here need to work on...Ok heres what Im trying to do. I wanna install the latest MIUI rom but from what Ive read, its needs 2.3.4 firmware. I downloaded KG6 firmware but Im unable to extract it du to password limitations and thats where Im stuck at.
Daniels45 said:
Thanks man for being a NICE guy...something people around here need to work on...Ok heres what Im trying to do. I wanna install the latest MIUI rom but from what Ive read, its needs 2.3.4 firmware. I downloaded KG6 firmware but Im unable to extract it du to password limitations and thats where Im stuck at.
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Bro, if you want MIUI you have to do TWO simple simple things from your stock bell state
go look for cfroot kernel thread (ill try to find it and link it for you) use the ones for kG2 firmware, this will root your phone and install CWM (the recovery needed to flash custom roms) this will root your phone on the bell firmware no stock required!
once this is done, download the latest miui zip, put on phone sd. boot into recovery and flash that mofo
You actually dont need stock/ kg6 at all to flash custom roms, but it is nice to learn how to use it for the sake of going back to stock!
I'm not changing my mind. They can take all noobs under their wings, but when I see incompetent idiots like you, I can't control myself. The password is on the same download page you got the file from, and I've already told you. You're here because you're bored, and you want attention, and you spent less than one minute searching for your answer. I know I am aggressive sometimes, but I do help people who put in some effort for something they want. I am also a beginner, so I'm not patronizing you, but what you failed to achieve has nothing to do with android at all. Now stop being a moron and creating a drama.
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I'm not changing my mind. They can take all noobs under their wings, but when I see incompetent idiots like you, I can't control myself. The password is on the same download page you got the file from, and I've already told you. You're here because you're bored, and you want attention, and you spent less than one minute searching for your answer. I know I am aggressive sometimes, but I do help people who put in some effort for something they want. I am also a beginner, so I'm not patronizing you, but what you failed to achieve has nothing to do with android at all. Now stop being a moron and creating a drama.
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I understand you, but you shouldnt be this agressive. You could ignore this or just tell him to read the faq at samfirmwares. Just my opinion.
Daniel, posts like yours looks like spam as there is tons of posts asking for the same thing over and over. Try to read a bit more, start with the faqs.
About root and roms, start reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134290
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130951
Good luck
TheSaw said:
I'm not changing my mind. They can take all noobs under their wings, but when I see incompetent idiots like you, I can't control myself. The password is on the same download page you got the file from, and I've already told you. You're here because you're bored, and you want attention, and you spent less than one minute searching for your answer. I know I am aggressive sometimes, but I do help people who put in some effort for something they want. I am also a beginner, so I'm not patronizing you, but what you failed to achieve has nothing to do with android at all. Now stop being a moron and creating a drama.
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I sort of have to agree with you minus the aggressive attitude. If you can't answer normally then simply don't answer. You're not only making yourself look like a F*cking idiot to about everyone that reads on these forums, but you are also making the community look bad and there are quite a few wonderful people on these boards.
On a side note, I am a newbie to when it comes to android systems (btw there is a difference between a Noob and Newbie, to bad most people don't remember that) but I did manage to root my phone and figure out how to install stock roms and other roms, within 15 minutes of searching. There are plenty of guides here on XDA telling you what flashing is, what roms are, what kernals are, what odin is for, what root system to use (CF-Root) etc.
Its not that hard, so i do agree with you on that.
Syrellaris said:
(btw there is a difference between a Noob and Newbie, to bad most people don't remember that)
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I wasn't aware of this. Care to enlighten this senior gentleman? I'm not down with you young hipsters...
And I agree 110% with TheSaw - the OP wants spoonfeeding and has the cheek to "rant" about it. "Spending weeks searching"!!?? Oh behave...
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I wasn't aware of this. Care to enlighten this senior gentleman? I'm not down with you young hipsters...
And I agree 110% with TheSaw - the OP wants spoonfeeding and has the cheek to "rant" about it. "Spending weeks searching"!!?? Oh behave...
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<PSA>
Newbie: Someone new to something, just starting out, learning.
Noob: Someone whos been around for a while and just wont learn, someone who needs spoon feeding, someone who doesnt want to help themselves.
We are all Newbies at some point, some get better, others turn into noobs.
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Okay, I apologize for my aggressive behavior. I did however help him in my first post after ranting. And yes, I do know the difference between "noob" and "newbie", and I give him credit for correctly categorizing himself in the "noob" group in his thread's title. And on that note... it's common sense and forum rules not to create threads with titles like this. I'm just really not patient with people, sorry
Over and out, carry on without me.
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Okay, I apologize for my aggressive behavior. I did however help him in my first post after ranting. And yes, I do know the difference between "noob" and "newbie", and I give him credit for correctly categorizing himself in the "noob" group in his thread's title. And on that note... it's common sense and forum rules not to create threads with titles like this. I'm just really not patient with people, sorry
Over and out, carry on without me.
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You can have a go at the ten identical posts today What Rom /best rom/which rom /recommended rom
I have learnt to move past a post if i consider the user to be lazy and not bothered to read etc .But not always i am afraid .
jje
I fear for your phone.
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