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So for me its an end of an era. I just sold my i9000 away and I'll be honest, it wasnt easy letting it go.
The SGS in my opinion was Samsungs best phone at the time it was released and arguably the best phone period. After a full year of hard usage I can say it was my privilege to have owned it.
First off a huge thank you to XDA for being a fountain of knowledge and a source for phone enthusiasts to join, people that love their great phones but still want them better. Second another great thank you to the guys that put together CM7. CM7 transformed my phone into a beast and I can tell you the interface is so responsive it rivals my current i9100. Then there is the customizations and features found only in CM7. There is something about the ability to rotate a phone 180 degrees, or swipe to remove a notification, or the ability to customize things like status bar colors that go to show that a lot of time and passion was invested into that project.
The i9000 itself has many pros and cons, but definitely more pros but I'll only nail the big rocks for me. The display is top notch and for me is a step up compared to its competition. There is something about the screen on the Atrix that just looks washed. The gorilla glass has withstood a full years worth of usage and still I'd rate it at 9.8/10 with only two tiny tiny dings. I've never had any problems with reception and the 16gb on board was more than enough for anything I ever used.
As far as the negatives there was a few glitches but I'm convinced they are all software related as new carrier releases or CM7 removed them. The physical make of the phone could have been improved, the backing never seemed to fit perfect and the phone itself just seemed to look like an imitation of an iPhone. The gps sucked and the phone should have come with an LED for the camera. Then lastly there was the constant battle for my more battery life. I used tasker, I used battery stat applications and I constantly made configurations but in the end my conclusion is... crappy battery life is a fact of life.
Despite the list of negatives the phone still rocked. The fact that the phone isnt perfect only highlights that Android only has one way to go and I'm excited to see where that is.
A quick comparison with my i9100. Hands down the i9100 is way faster of a phone. It has an LED light and the GPS actually works, not great but still works. The battery still sucks but IS better than the i9000. For me the 4.3 inch screen is the perfect size and the phone itself just looks better. BUT altogether its still just next years model. If you have the extra funds then sure, but I do not recommend dumping the money for this phone unless you require the speed/led/gps which for me are not deal breakers. Personally I had a $200 credit (min $400 purchase) that was expiring and I had nothing else on my wish list.
Nice review!, but to address your cons:
GPS on the latest Google Maps w/ Angry GPS IMO works pretty well.
For battery the Samsung Armani 1650mah (same physical size as stock) picks up the slack and IMHO makes this the best battery live I have ever used on Android...
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Hi all,
When the N4 was announced I had my GNex up for sale within the hour, sold within two! The more I read about the Nexus 4, the more I am unsure it is actually for me. I do not play games and generally use my phone for browsing the net/forums, google currents, bit of music and social networking (Facebook etc.)
I am now unsure whether I have made the right choice, and whether I should snap-up another Nexus while people are selling them off cheap on the forums ready for the N4 upgrade.
I was hoping for upgrades in the following areas
Build quality... this is one area where I am fairly sure I would be happy! N4 looks great!
Screen quality... again, a fairly significant upgrade to me me as the Gnex screen always looked a little washed out and dull when sat alongside other handsets (One X, S3, S2 etc.)
Battery Life... Was hoping for this but am now unsure. Gnex seemed to heat up quite a lot and was looking forward to getting rid of that. it now seems that the N4 may have the same issues and reports of screen on time in the region of 3 hours do not seem that much of a step up from the Gnex
Processor... Whilst a speed boost would be welcomed, as I only use the phone for some casual browsing and not gaming I am unsure how much difference I will see.
Camera... Again was hoping for a major boost, but seems to be a minor incremental boost at best!
Any thoughts? Anyone else in the same position as me and wondering what to do? Price difference is in the region of £100-120 if I were to purchase like for like accessories etc.
Cheers,
Michael
The fact that it's "Nexus" also means you get a standard, Android experience, along with guaranteed quick updates (up until the point where the OS won't run smoothly on the device I guess; which should take a while). Other vendors for the most part offer updates slowly, and choose to make the general UI... non-standard (which usually has more downsides)
yeah... am only comparing the two nexus devices as that is all I would buy... love the specs of the S3 and can be picked up mint for about the same price as a new Nexus 4, but couldn't live without the updates
Literally everything is improved. You'll love it no matter what.
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One thing I wouldn't worry ahbout is battery life,
once the obvious software problems are fixed battery life is going to be good because:
-The battery at 2100mAh is pretty large
-IPS panels are allot more power efficient then Amoled screens, especially if your main use is web browsing
-The S4pro is the most efficient ARM quad-core and is the only one which allows to clock its cores independently
-There will be custom Kernels that allow undervolting and other features that improve battery life
I'm not a gamer either, but that didn't stopped me from getting this I personally think you won't regret getting it, but if you don't like it, you can always just return it and get something else
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wurzelsepp3 said:
One thing I wouldn't worry ahbout is battery life,
once the obvious software problems are fixed battery life is going to be good because:
-The battery at 2100mAh is pretty large
-IPS panels are allot more power efficient then Amoled screens, especially if your main use is web browsing
-The S4pro is the most efficient ARM quad-core and is the only one which allows to clock its cores independently
-There will be custom Kernels that allow undervolting and other features that improve battery life
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How much of a difference will custom kernels and ROMs make to the battery life? Roughly? 10% or more?
I know my current Galaxy 3 gives me an improvement of almost 30% with custom firmware, but that's because of removing the samsung bloatware.
I try to get the fastest, most powerful phone or computer out there that's at a reasonable price. By reasonable I mean most power per dollar. The people that say they don't need a super fast phone or computer are usually the ones complaining that Web pages open slow or it keeps freezing and slowing down. The better hardware you get, the longer you will be satisfied with the device. And for this price with this hardware/software? You gotta jump on it. You may not need a phone that could run crysis but if you could get it for the same or cheaper price as a lesser spec'd phone, wouldn't you?
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cyberkid2002 said:
I was hoping for upgrades in the following areas
Build quality... this is one area where I am fairly sure I would be happy! N4 looks great! I think we're going to love the build quality. I've said for a couple of years now that if Google could put out a Nexus device that felt like the iPhone 4/4S in the hand, then they'd really be on to something. I believe that's what LG has done here.
Screen quality... again, a fairly significant upgrade to me me as the Gnex screen always looked a little washed out and dull when sat alongside other handsets (One X, S3, S2 etc.) IMO, the screen is going to be great. From everything I've read, the screen is just a slight notch below the One X...so that would make it fantastic. And every review I've read that compared it to the GNex screen says that it's MUCH better and much easier to see outdoors in sunlight. This is a major upgrade.
Battery Life... Was hoping for this but am now unsure. Gnex seemed to heat up quite a lot and was looking forward to getting rid of that. it now seems that the N4 may have the same issues and reports of screen on time in the region of 3 hours do not seem that much of a step up from the Gnex. Again, this is something we'll have to wait and see (as everyone's day-to-day use is different), but I've seen a couple of reviews that say the Nexus 4 gets about the same, or just below, the battery life of the S3. If that's the case, then (for me at least), I'm golden. Yesterday I got 5 hours screen-on time on my S3 (50% brightness, stock rooted ROM, power save turned off, etc.) and I still had 23% battery life left. That's pretty darn good!
Processor... Whilst a speed boost would be welcomed, as I only use the phone for some casual browsing and not gaming I am unsure how much difference I will see. I think you'll see a major boost, even if you don't need it. Apps will open faster and things will just be snappier. I'd much rather have more performance than I need rather than the other way around.
Camera... Again was hoping for a major boost, but seems to be a minor incremental boost at best! This is the one place where I have to really disagree. The camera is VERY important to me (I use it daily in my job) and the shots I've seen seem to show the camera is a MAJOR upgrade over the GNex. While I didn't find the GNex camera to be awful, it certainly couldn't hold a candle to my S3 camera. If this camera is anywhere near as good as the S3, I'm going to be very pleased.
Any thoughts? Anyone else in the same position as me and wondering what to do? Price difference is in the region of £100-120 if I were to purchase like for like accessories etc.
Cheers,
Michael
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See my replies above. I believe you've made a great decision. :good:
Engadget has had the most negative response to the battery life of anyone, and they still got 3 minutes longer out of the Nexus 4 than the Galaxy Nexus. Assuming they never fix whatever was causing the poor battery life, you'll see the same as what you get on your Galaxy Nexus.
Hello! I am seriously considering purchasing a Samsung Galaxy Note 2.
I'm coming from an Lg Optimus 4x Hd.
The question is:
This device has some kind of bug?
The camera is good?
The battery lasts about how long?
How is the performance of this device for gaming?
This unit heats up a lot?
The completion of this unit is painted or is it metal?
The function of the S-Pen is useful?
What do you think about this device?
Be honest, what you like and what you hate most on your Samsung Galaxy Note 2?
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Today got the Samsung Galaxy Note 2! I am very happy.
I hope that from now on everything runs as smoothly as possible with Samsung.
LG disappointed me a lot.
I had 3 devices (LG P500h), (LG P990) and (P880 LG).
All devices with critical defects, ranging in quality from the camera, touch screen and gaming performance.
I thank you all for the information provided, and support.
Team, we are now one more!
Thank you!
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Ha ha... Don't think to much. Just go buy it. You will not regret it. If 5.5 inch n 720p is ok for u, then this phone is unbeatable
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Hey OP that is the exact situation I was in, I had the crappy 4X HD and swapped it for a note 2. Honestly it was the best decision I have ever made re: mobile devices, it completely destroys the 4X and isn't locked down like the aforementioned LG atrocity. Do it.
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No big that I'm aware of. Except you cannot move apps to the sd card easily. Directory bind resolves this.
Personally for me the camera is very good. Maybe not the best on the market though?
I get all day of very heavy usage out of my battery and I've disowned my in car chargers now.
I play lots of games vice city, nfs, and they are all flawless.
It does not get hot at all.
The phone is plastic but I always use a case.
I don't really use the s pen but my kids love it.
I'm really glad I got this phone it is immense. The best phone I've ever owned. I couldn't go back to a smaller screen. The battery is a dream and it's so quick to use.
Buy it and let us know your thoughts
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Hello! I am seriously considering purchasing a Samsung Galaxy Note 2.
I'm coming from an Lg Optimus 4x Hd.
The question is:
This device has some kind of bug?
The camera is good?
The battery lasts about how long?
How is the performance of this device for gaming?
This unit heats up a lot?
The completion of this unit is painted or is it metal?
The function of the S-Pen is useful?
What do you think about this device?
Be honest, what you like and what you hate most on your Samsung Galaxy Note 2?
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Bugs? No bugs that i notice.
Camera is pretty good, better than most phone camera's.
More than 14 hours battery life for me.
Gaming is awesome, will run nova 3, asphalt 7, and others perfectly.
Mine hasnt heated up at all, nice and cool unless i go mad flashing roms, then it gets warm.
Plastic, and i am enjoying the plastic.
Spen depends on what you use it for, most of samsungs functions seem a little gimmicky to me, however 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity with sketchbook pro for tablets makes this an awesome tool for an artist.
This is a very nice phone, i love it.
The only thing that might be considered bad is the lack of updates from samsung; but that can also be a good thing. I have a nexus 7 tablet, 4.1 was good, 4.1.2 was good, 4.2.1 ran poorly, 4.2.2 was good. The nice thing about slow updates is we will likely never see 4.2.1 for this phone, the bad thing is if we get a bad update we get stuck on it for a while.
Tl;dr awesome phone, you will probably love it.
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The only bad thing is, you will have the feeling of wanting to throw away other smaller phone...
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Guess what, there is a guy who used note 2 which came last year, bought s4 and sold it again to get note 2 again. Just shows how cool is this phone.
After using s1-s3, I was very hesitant to get this phone but honestly this has been my best ever experience since last 8 months with note 2. Just close your eyes and buy it.
What I loved most:
0% lag, thanks to quad core ad 2 gig ram.
battery is toooooo good for a smartphone, you will just love it.
Perfect size.
What I disliked:
Poor wifi signal reception, actually signals dropout/fluctuate very frequently.
Poor low light camera performance, just like other galaxy series phone.
Ooh, toughie. Will try to be as objective as possible. Mine:
Pros:
Absolute beast - no lags, runs anything that would run on it without any issues or stutters etc.
Wolfston Sound chip, which gives you excellent results with your high quality headphones if you use one.
Battery life - hands down the best battery life I've ever had in a smartphone. Can't seem to kill the battery even with super heavy usage.
Expandable storage - nuff said.
Gorgeous screen - in my personal opinion, it has the best SAMOLED screen of all other phones. Love the 5.5'' RGB amoled, calibrate and you get gorgeous contrast ratio and color reproduction with the screen.
S Pen - underrated, helps me to take notes, and browsing is far better with the S Pen out.
Those are the things I LOVE, there are plenty more I like a lot, which I can't even begin to list here.
Cons:
Camera is top notch, but if you're into taking pictures of moving objects, it's bit of a letdown.
Awkward to use one handed - you can use it, but it's still awkward. That should be obvious though, given how large the phone is. Amazing for two handed though, you'll struggle to type in tiny phones once you get used to it.
Relatively poor daylight visibility - much better than S3, but not on par with S4 or other LCD phones. I can see stuff on bright really bright daylight too, but it isn't terrific. If you're always using your mobile in the sun, that might be something to take into consideration though.
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Poor wifi signal reception, actually signals dropout/fluctuate very frequently.
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Mine actually has excellent signal reception You sure that it's not just an issue with your device?
^^
Device is fine, I updated rom and it did help but no as much as expected. I am not the only one with this issue I guess. The problem is that even in a room where I have router, it frequently fluctuate signals.
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i love everything of my note 2 but my note 2 got sds insane chip that drives me crazy all the time but you are good to go with a kernel+recovery patched for sds otherwise this is the best thing i have ever had
sohebq said:
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Device is fine, I updated rom and it did help but no as much as expected. I am not the only one with this issue I guess. The problem is that even in a room where I have router, it frequently fluctuate signals.
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Hmm, is it the router? I mean there must be some workaround surely, because mine has excellent wifi reception, better than my Nexus 7, actually.
I basically don't like the back cover, for me it's pretty slippery and I can feel myself losing grip on it when using it with one hand...and that's basically it
everything else I love about it!
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Hmm, is it the router? I mean there must be some workaround surely, because mine has excellent wifi reception, better than my Nexus 7, actually.
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I have 2 routers and issue is same. Do check 1 thing for me, stay in the room where the router is and monitor the signal strength from the wifi icon. Does it remain stable, I mean stuck at 4 full bars or fluctuates between 3 and 4 bars.
What I don't like is that you can't move apps to sd card and that's the only issue I have with this phone. I know there is work around but not feeling very confident about using it. What I like best is a row of numbers above keyboard. Using omega Rom and it's fantastic. This phone is blazing fast, very good battery life doesn't heat up like my old sgs2. And it actually feels quicker than my wife Xperia Z for some reason
sohebq said:
I have 2 routers and issue is same. Do check 1 thing for me, stay in the room where the router is and monitor the signal strength from the wifi icon. Does it remain stable, I mean stuck at 4 full bars or fluctuates between 3 and 4 bars.
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Checked for 1 minute, it seems stable, didn't seem to drop at all?
Anyways, regardless - if it was a noticeable issue, I would have experienced it surely?
tuxonhtc said:
Checked for 1 minute, it seems stable, didn't seem to drop at all?
Anyways, regardless - if it was a noticeable issue, I would have experienced it surely?
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Consider yourself lucky then.
check these threads, wifi issue is addressed a lot of times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956155
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- Device has no bug. There was this emmc chip bug and sds issue, but it's 'believed' to be fixed by Samsung.
- S Pen useful? Hell yes! I've mainly considered Note for it, and I'm very impressed. I'm not going back to Galaxy S lineup.
- Device heats up? Honestly I've been using Samsung smartphones for 3 years now and I just don't know what this heating up problem is. And I live in a place where real feel temp is 48°C at noon. People saying my device heats up a lot, no offense, but have no idea what is heating up actually.
- Camera? A lot of people will disagree with me I know, but I found the camera to be average, if not below. However I'm a SLR user. Still, iPhone cameras are way better than N2.
- Battery? At first, on 4.1.1, the battery life was awesome, unmatched in comparison to any other phone and unbeatable. Now with 4.1.2, it's not awesome, but still good, and better than any devices released so far. I don't know about S4 though.
- Gaming performance? I don't play games on mobile phone
- What do I think about the device? If you don't wanna wait for N3, and don't like S lineup then buy it eyes closed.
- What I hate most? Only one thing, PLASTIC.
'Swyped' from my GT-N7100
This device has some kind of bug?
The only thing that irritates me is that the Samsung sms app converts > 320 character sms messages into mms ones. Not really a bug, just an irritating feature which can easily be bypassed by using a third party sms app.
The camera is good?
Amazing. Only the s4 can really top it so far as phone cameras go, imo.
The battery lasts about how long?
Easily lasts a day of heavy use or as much as 2-3 days of light-moderate use. One day I was bored as all hell, used it for eight hours (screen on time) while connected to wifi and it still had 30% left when I plugged it in.
How is the performance of this device for gaming?
I'm not a heavy gamer but I doubt there is a single game on the play store which can make this thing lag.
This unit heats up a lot?
Gets warm if you're gaming or something, I'm ordinarily use like emails, Web, etc it is cool to the touch. Never felt it get uncomfortably warm.
The completion of this unit is painted or is it metal?
It's coloured polycarbonate with a painted silver plastic trim.
The function of the S-Pen is useful?
I use it to take quick notes all the time, in the same way I used to use a small notebook. Tbh the pen is just icing on the cake. Even if it had no pen it would be a great phone. The pen just sets it head and shoulders above all other phones on the market right now, even the gs4.
What do you think about this device?
I love it. At first I thought it might be too big, after 30 minutes of using it my Nexus 4 and gs3 just looked pathetically tiny - like toys in fact - and I knew I could never go back to a small phone like those ones. People still laugh at my phone because of its size. When I see them squinting to read emails on their lesser phones I laugh at them.
Be honest, what you like and what you hate most on your Samsung Galaxy Note 2?
I love everything about it - it's fast, big high quality, high res screen, good camera, good sound quality and volume, huge removable battery (becoming rare these days), micro sd slot, and even though it's big it's thin so the size isn't that much of an issue.
What I hate most is that I can't put the phone down. My Nexus 4 and 7, gs3, even my note 10.1 haven't been touched on the 6 weeks or so I've had this phone. In fact I'm selling all of them because this phone fulfils all my needs.
Sent from the mighty Note II
Like:
- Screen size!!
- Performance
- Battery
- Camera
- Smart Stay/Rotation
- Multiview
- More special Samsung features and gestures
- S Pen (I don't use it alot, but its nice..)
- Micro SD slot
Hate:
- Samsung not releasing whatever CM team needs (didn't really understand what they need..)
- AMOLED screen, I just don't really like it. You might will. Its personal
- Plastic build
Like:
- Screen size!!
- Performance
- Battery
- Multiview
- More special Samsung features and gestures
- Micro SD slot
Hate:
- Plastic build
- and the price..
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I had an iPhone 6 Plus and got a S6 instead, here are my thoughts....
Galaxy S6
The samsung galaxy S6 is amazing, the display is unreal, the look and feel is Amazing! The camera is superb, the UI is speedy, sometimes theres a stutter but most of the time its fast. Its lighter than the 6 Plus and smaller in dimensions of course. The S6 has a 5.1 screen.
Liked
I like the screen, the camera, the fingerprint scanner is now press like the iPhone. Touchwiz is a bit smoother.
Disliked
Mostly Android itself, Its a mess. Apps are inconsistent, the UI isnt that smooth and touchwiz is damn ugly!
Battery Life is horrible, heavy use will last half a day (7am to 1pm)
iPhone 6 Plus
The iPhone has been an awesome phone but theres phones with better displays and better battery life. The 6 Plus on the other hand is a different story. The display is clear, not as clear as the S6 but its clear enough, so no complaints there. The battery if god damn Amazing, its last from 7am to 12PM on heavy usage, normal usage would last a day and a half. iOS is super smooth, and apps are consistent and just work. Whats there not to love on the iPhone, sure iOS lacks in features but i do prefer an OS to be clean, consistent and feature lacking then an OS that is rushed, inconsistent and laggy. Also i knew i was getting updates because its Apple.
Liked
The Screen
The UI is super smooth
You get software updates straight away
Apps are consistent,Ios gets exclusive Apps
Disliked
Some lack of features, but you get used to it
Camera, tho it is pretty clear
Overall, the S6 is good but it just doesnt give you that premium UI and OS like Apple does
S6- For people who like personalization
iPhone- who like premium software, wants software updates first and smooth UI
We can discuss more in this THREAD....
I DONT HATE ANDROID OR IOS, THIS IS MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE AND I DONT TAKE SIDES. IM NOT AN APPLE FAN BOY NOR ANDROID FAN BOY LOL i just love both!!
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Disliked
Mostly Android itself, Its a mess. Apps are inconsistent, the UI isnt that smooth and touchwiz is damn ugly!
Battery Life is horrible, heavy use will last half a day (7am to 1pm)
I DONT HATE ANDROID OR IOS, THIS IS MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE AND I DONT TAKE SIDES. IM NOT AN APPLE FAN BOY NOR ANDROID FAN BOY LOL i just love both!!
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It seems you do, since aside from battery life, your only complaint was android. Not that there is something wrong with preferring iOS but lest be honest here.
With iOS i do hate you cant download attachments from emails like word documents, you cant upload files to google drive etc, sharing stuff has improved but still limited
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With iOS i do hate you cant download attachments from emails like word documents, you cant upload files to google drive etc, sharing stuff has improved but still limited
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There are many limitations to iOS. For instance, you can't download any type of file you want, like an mp3, onto your phone like you can on Android. These small nuances are why I don't think I'll be happy with iOS.
As far as battery life is concerned, you can optimise your phone so that it will last you the whole day. Check out some of the threads on battery life. I'm not a heavy user - mainly play WordFeud, Trivia Crack, WhatsApp, some light Facebook usage, Messenger, some web surfing, etc. (no heavy games) and I can get 36 hours out of this thing with about 4 hours of SoT.
Idk how people can think the battery life sucks... I get over 6 hours on screen time. Coming from an htc one m7 the battery in the s6 is wayyy better. I was golfing earlier and hook lots of pics and videos over 2 hours and my battery only drained like 15 percent.
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I had an iPhone 6 Plus and got a S6 instead, here are my thoughts....
Galaxy S6
The samsung galaxy S6 is amazing, the display is unreal, the look and feel is Amazing! The camera is superb, the UI is speedy, sometimes theres a stutter but most of the time its fast. Its lighter than the 6 Plus and smaller in dimensions of course. The S6 has a 5.1 screen.
Liked
I like the screen, the camera, the fingerprint scanner is now press like the iPhone. Touchwiz is a bit smoother.
Disliked
Mostly Android itself, Its a mess. Apps are inconsistent, the UI isnt that smooth and touchwiz is damn ugly!
Battery Life is horrible, heavy use will last half a day (7am to 1pm)
iPhone 6 Plus
The iPhone has been an awesome phone but theres phones with better displays and better battery life. The 6 Plus on the other hand is a different story. The display is clear, not as clear as the S6 but its clear enough, so no complaints there. The battery if god damn Amazing, its last from 7am to 12PM on heavy usage, normal usage would last a day and a half. iOS is super smooth, and apps are consistent and just work. Whats there not to love on the iPhone, sure iOS lacks in features but i do prefer an OS to be clean, consistent and feature lacking then an OS that is rushed, inconsistent and laggy. Also i knew i was getting updates because its Apple.
Liked
The Screen
The UI is super smooth
You get software updates straight away
Apps are consistent,Ios gets exclusive Apps
Disliked
Some lack of features, but you get used to it
Camera, tho it is pretty clear
Overall, the S6 is good but it just doesnt give you that premium UI and OS like Apple does
S6- For people who like personalization
iPhone- who like premium software, wants software updates first and smooth UI
We can discuss more in this THREAD....
I DONT HATE ANDROID OR IOS, THIS IS MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE AND I DONT TAKE SIDES. IM NOT AN APPLE FAN BOY NOR ANDROID FAN BOY LOL i just love both!!
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Always good to have different opinions!
I think with battery life it would be more fair to compare the iphone 6 plus with the galaxy note series, since they are of a similar size.
I agree with your comments on iOS vs Android though. I will never go over to iOS, but I think there is a consistency to the UI (both the base OS and the apps) that isn't there with Android phones. The experience just feels more cohesive. That said, iOS is a lot less flexible.
grom96 said:
I had an iPhone 6 Plus and got a S6 instead, here are my thoughts....
Galaxy S6
The samsung galaxy S6 is amazing, the display is unreal, the look and feel is Amazing! The camera is superb, the UI is speedy, sometimes theres a stutter but most of the time its fast. Its lighter than the 6 Plus and smaller in dimensions of course. The S6 has a 5.1 screen.
Liked
I like the screen, the camera, the fingerprint scanner is now press like the iPhone. Touchwiz is a bit smoother.
Disliked
Mostly Android itself, Its a mess. Apps are inconsistent, the UI isnt that smooth and touchwiz is damn ugly!
Battery Life is horrible, heavy use will last half a day (7am to 1pm)
iPhone 6 Plus
The iPhone has been an awesome phone but theres phones with better displays and better battery life. The 6 Plus on the other hand is a different story. The display is clear, not as clear as the S6 but its clear enough, so no complaints there. The battery if god damn Amazing, its last from 7am to 12PM on heavy usage, normal usage would last a day and a half. iOS is super smooth, and apps are consistent and just work. Whats there not to love on the iPhone, sure iOS lacks in features but i do prefer an OS to be clean, consistent and feature lacking then an OS that is rushed, inconsistent and laggy. Also i knew i was getting updates because its Apple.
Liked
The Screen
The UI is super smooth
You get software updates straight away
Apps are consistent,Ios gets exclusive Apps
Disliked
Some lack of features, but you get used to it
Camera, tho it is pretty clear
Overall, the S6 is good but it just doesnt give you that premium UI and OS like Apple does
S6- For people who like personalization
iPhone- who like premium software, wants software updates first and smooth UI
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I DONT HATE ANDROID OR IOS, THIS IS MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE AND I DONT TAKE SIDES. IM NOT AN APPLE FAN BOY NOR ANDROID FAN BOY LOL i just love both!!
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Based on what you have written about these phones, I can conclude that you are a very simple user and yes ios is better for simple users who does not need any extra functions.
This does not surprise me at all that you like ios more. Good luck with your phone.
Keyboard, default browser and default maps are the really big problems I have with iOS. I also hate how hard it is to get root, and how that relies on exploits. I like Apple and since I'm not sure I'll root my S6 perhaps I will look again at iOS. I got my wife a Note 4 and that's the best comparison to the iPhone 6 plus. I dont think it is an easy comparison for the iOS device. The note 4 is very good.
I like IOS because of its smoothness clean UI but I want it loaded in an S6 kind of phone which is very impossile to happen.
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Well i dont agree at all.
Iphone 6 Plus:
Pro:
Fast updates
Premium design
Cons:
Huge
iOS
Worse camera
Locked ecosystem
NFC locked to apple pay
No customization
No wireless charging
No fast charging
Lightning connector
S6:
Cons:
Not updated fast
Pros:
Fast charging
Wireless charging
Open standard USB connector (i can plug it in anywhere)
Best camera
Best screen
PREMIUM design
Android
Extremely customizable
Themes
Download booster
Material design in android
Extremely fast
This is just my own opinion and its biased, as I really dont like iphones
What I miss the most coming from an iPhone is the amazing battery life.
For being so open it's really amazing that android lacks a feature to choose which apps that are allowed to run in the background. iOS has a simple interface with sliders where you basically just pick which apps you want to keep running.
I always disconnect the charger right before going to sleep, and with the iphone I would wake up with 100 or 99% battery 6-8 hours later. With the S6 it's at 85%.
I would go back to the iPhone if it wasn't for the S6's camera. It's probably the only thing that's noticeably better.
I had the 6 plus and now i own the S6. Both solid phones.
6plus pros over S6:
-Battery life is outstanding
-Screen real estate for watching videos and just more space overall.
-IOS apps are really well optimized. Like twitter for example, i love the animation when you open that app in IOS.
-Consistent UI, No bloatware, Fully IOS.
-Imessage is Fantastic
6plus Cons:
-Even though the screen real estate is nice, the phone is big and can be uncomfortable to handle for many.
-IOS is just boring. The widgets are a joke, the customization is very limited, you can't download files, mp3 songs, torrents and all that.
-Bendgate?
S6 pros over 6 plus:
-Best display on any smartphone since smartphones were invented. Hands down.
- Arguably the best camera on the market
- 5.1 inch is easier to handle vs 5.5 inch
-Exynos SoC built on 14nm offers lots of power
-4K video recording
-wireless charing capabilities
-front facing camera with wide angle view
-Fast charge
-cheaper
-Android OS is very customizable.
-Touchwiz features
S6 cons:
-battery life isnt near as good as the 6plus. My battery life on the S6 is actually quite good but it will never match the big iphone's battery life.
- less screen real estate to enjoy media contents.
-slower updates
-bloatware
-less consistent UI. Lag?No. Minimal stutter? Yes, the android stuff we get use to. Not worth mentioning but im nit picking.
So there you have it. 2 solid phones. I like both personally. But im enjoying my S6 right now. Im sure ill get the 6plus S later this year or something else but right now its S6 time.
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Sprint s6 new oe2 update been having the best standby battery life. 52 % 13 hours 3 hours screen time.
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Props to the OP for coming out on XDA with this. It's a classic start to a flame war even though I don't think that was the intention. I struggle with whether or not to switch back to the Apple world of phones. The consistency is nice and things like Facetime - which works well - simply aren't there on Android yet (Google please fix Hangouts FFS). I do agree that the battery life is a mess on the S6 but it seems to be related to software more than anything. This is not unique to Android as several ios users are having problems with 8.2 and 8.3 as well. (Mostly) Google and Samsung will identify this and make the phone usable for an entire day without charging.
I agree with all the ops comments. I was an iPhone user for at least 3 years and loved every minute of it. Switched over to android because KitKat was the tipping point as it made android smooth enough with added consistency and the flexibility of the os locked me in. On whole I'd say iOS is more of a finished product where as android has always been a work in progress. I wouldn't place one over the other though.
Apoxx said:
What I miss the most coming from an iPhone is the amazing battery life.
For being so open it's really amazing that android lacks a feature to choose which apps that are allowed to run in the background. iOS has a simple interface with sliders where you basically just pick which apps you want to keep running.
I always disconnect the charger right before going to sleep, and with the iphone I would wake up with 100 or 99% battery 6-8 hours later. With the S6 it's at 85%.
I would go back to the iPhone if it wasn't for the S6's camera. It's probably the only thing that's noticeably better.
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Then there definitely is something wrong with your phone. I always go to bed with 100% and wake up with 100% if haven't got any notifications or so over a night, else it's 99%.
Yeah 85% sounds crazy. The most I've lost overnight is 3% otherwise it's 1-2% without any incoming notifications.
Note 4 --> Galaxy S6 --> iPhone 6 Plus
barondebxl said:
I had the 6 plus and now i own the S6. Both solid phones.
6plus pros over S6:
-Battery life is outstanding
-Screen real estate for watching videos and just more space overall.
-IOS apps are really well optimized. Like twitter for example, i love the animation when you open that app in IOS.
-Consistent UI, No bloatware, Fully IOS.
-Imessage is Fantastic
6plus Cons:
-Even though the screen real estate is nice, the phone is big and can be uncomfortable to handle for many.
-IOS is just boring. The widgets are a joke, the customization is very limited, you can't download files, mp3 songs, torrents and all that.
-Bendgate?
S6 pros over 6 plus:
-Best display on any smartphone since smartphones were invented. Hands down.
- Arguably the best camera on the market
- 5.1 inch is easier to handle vs 5.5 inch
-Exynos SoC built on 14nm offers lots of power
-4K video recording
-wireless charing capabilities
-front facing camera with wide angle view
-Fast charge
-cheaper
-Android OS is very customizable.
-Touchwiz features
S6 cons:
-battery life isnt near as good as the 6plus. My battery life on the S6 is actually quite good but it will never match the big iphone's battery life.
- less screen real estate to enjoy media contents.
-slower updates
-bloatware
-less consistent UI. Lag?No. Minimal stutter? Yes, the android stuff we get use to. Not worth mentioning but im nit picking.
So there you have it. 2 solid phones. I like both personally. But im enjoying my S6 right now. Im sure ill get the 6plus S later this year or something else but right now its S6 time.
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Sooo... here are my thoughts since I am directly a part of this "Galaxy S6 to iPhone 6 Plus" scenario:
My MAIN problem with the S6 is the battery life which is by all standards abysmal at best. So let me detail my feeling after owning a Note 4 (Snapdragon) for 6 months then switching to S6 for 10 days and eventually to an iPhone 6Plus for 3 days already.
6plus pros over S6:
- Battery life is outstanding. Ditto. Heavy usage (gaming, browsing, photo & filming, photo editing, all sync on on multiple apps, browsing the **** out of everything, etc) is 7 SOT on a charge and 14 hours of standby. A glorious 21 to 24 hours. A day!
- Screen is perfect. Guys, go beyond this market gimmicks and resolution wars! FullHD is, as of today, the best resolution to keep the a balance between what your eyes can actually see in a 5 to 5.7 inch display and the battery drain caused by the display (especially in daylight conditions).
- IOS apps are really well optimized, way more consistent than those on Android and of course more polished!
- Consistent UI, No bloatware, iOS just rocks in terms of simplicity.
- Photography apps are stellar when compared to Android, and I am here referring to those app types that you don't get in Android (e.g Mextures, Distress FX, Superimpose, Glaze, etc)
- Video processing available tools are just "WOW" (when compared to the available ones on Android).
6plus Cons:
- Godzilla sized phone that, because of the aluminum body, can only be handled OK-ish (I have pretty decent sized fingers) when using another "4mm adding width" case.
- The lack of notification light. Apple: **** your "wake up screen" notification system, it's LAME! By the time the phone is in no disturb mode you will miss 110% of your notifications (useful or useless ones).
- IOS is just boring and uninviting. The widgets are ... NO WIDGETS!, The customization is nowhere comparable to Android, you can't download files, .mp3 songs, torrents and all that.
- iOS keyboard put together with SwiftKey usually results in a mess: username can be entered with SwiftKey but the password field can only be filled in with the iOS proprietary keyboard. Bleah!
- Process intercommunication and data sharing among application (specifically moving a processed phone from one specific app to another) is both buggy (see Afterlight) and limited (you cannot share directly from any photo processing app to all the other photo apps).
S6 pros over 6 plus:
- Display is outstanding but nonetheless that resolution for the screen size is overkill (batter and workflow wise) and Adroid apps really make no good use of it (yeah Android, you know... usability!!!)
- OS speed: I never though I was going to say that but the latest update *G920FXXU1AODG* on S6 makes the iOS look like a bloody lazy Windows Phone OS & UI! Really, really fast, no lags at all! Absolutely IMPRESSED!
- Arguably the best camera on the market. iPhone 6 Plus camera is no slouch either (especially in the video department but the 8Mpx senzor it's just not there! Yet!
- 5.1 inch is easier to handle vs 5.5 inch. Correct!
- Exynos SoC built on 14nm offers lots of power BUT it's eventually to much for the battery.
-4K video recording though playing it back home is a PITA: no 4K TV and no 4K player in my courtyard.
- Fast charge. Though iPhone charging via the laptop USB port is way faster!
- Android OS is the customization itself and the WIDGETS are just calling for attention/action on the users behalf.
- Phone design is quite impressive.
S6 cons:
- Battery life is freaking BAD! The standby drain was almost perfect (almost!) in the latest G920FXXU1AODG with a 2-3% drain overnight (8-9 hours of deepsleep).
- The SOT + activity time battery is plain AWFUL! One example: playing 2048 game (lame on resources you know) on an iPhone 6 (not 6 Plus) for 1:40 drained 2% of the battery. On my S6, same daylight conditions, same time playing drained 13% which is plainly unacceptable. This is one thing I insist upon and I know that every Samsung loyalists (still in good faith and good brain condition) would accept is that the power drain while operating the phone (no matter what app you're using... could be just browsing) is just not optimized. It could be the HMP architecture of the Exynos as compared to the hot-plugging in Snapdragon that kills the joy of using this otherwise STUNNING phone.
- Sloooooooooooooooooowwwwww and undocumented updates (most of the time)
- Still bloatware is present but not to the extent it used to be in the past
- Less consistent UI and most of the apps just don't properly scale with the screen resolution which make things both look ugly and affect the apps usability!
That would be all for now on my behalf. Really missing the pocket-ability of my S6, the astonishing camera, the "fast and furious" UI and OS but eventually the battery life just killed it for me. I am a heavy smartphone user and as such I hate constantly peeping at my battery and fearing it dead by the end of the day!
I just home that either uncle Sammy or other enthusiastic developers around (hat's off for KTOOSNEZ) will be able to solve the BATTERY-GATE affair and I, personally, will get back to S6.
I pending between iPhone and Android. Don't really like ios except that it's so much more smooth and don't have any kinds of slowdowns when gaming or anywhere really.
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Really guys? Another comparison of these 2 phones which have been release with more than 6 months time!
Honestly the GS6 is a great phone but compared to an iphone 6, it doesn't bring much...
A new phone is suppose to be better but the small difference with an iphone 6 is just ridiculous!
The design is not as good as the Iphone 6, which is really comfortable in hand (and I don't even speak for the S6 edge), the battery is also not as good as an iphone 6....
The electric plug of the iphone6 is way better !!! No comparison possible!!! You can insert it very easily.
The screen has more pixels but still, pictures look better on iphone6!
However and also the main reason I will always choose Android rather than iOs is the software!
I can do pretty much all I want with this phone!
Cast the video I just downloaded with torrent on my smart tv...
Really easy file transfer between any devices...The list will be too long!
And for an Android phone, the GS6 is just the best one at this time!
To sum up I am really happy with this phone and hope that the overall design will keep improving with the future samsung phone.
I am trying to convince myself that I am wrong or somehow biased, but I don't think I am in this situation. I am a phone junkie and I bounce between devices quickly. In the last 6 months I have had the Axon 7, HTC 10 (still have, S-off'd with Unlocked GSM firmware/ software), Nexus 6P, HTC M9, s7 edge, s6 edge+, iphone 7 plus, Droid Turbo, and now the V20. I will say that over all, the V20 is built beautifully and performs well. The battery life is a bit weaker than I was hoping, just like the HTC 10, the quick charge 3.0 almost covers that short coming. The things that are making me disappointed though are as follows:
LG Skin / UI : Feels a little off, made up a bit by using Nova launcher, but everyone knows it won't remove it all...
Performance: I might be expecting a bit much, but I have had my device slow down (to unbearable lag / waiting on apps to switch/come up) more than a handful of times requiring a reboot
Battery Life: As stated above, the battery life is pretty week and I find myself having to top up a towards 6 pm, it does charge quickly, but find that a little sad.
Camera: This is where I am shocked. The camera overall doesn't live up to what I expected or how it was advertised. In ideal situations, it can take good photos, and I mean GOOD, not Great. If you don't switch to manual and tweak everything out, you will be sadly disappointed. Auto focus has a hard time locking in, can get a bit of grain / noise, and if there is movement or action, good luck. In video mode or if you flip into manual mode, you can get much better results, but in the heat of the moment, not everyone will be quick to get it ready in time to get that shot. In low light situations, it has been very disappointing. The lag time between the flash / focus and getting a picture off, I end up with a blurry out of focus picture most of the time. I am basing this off pictures I take of my young daughter. The camera on the HTC 10, Axon 7, iPhone 7 plus, S7 edge, and S6 edge+ all out perform in these situations. For a phone/device that is supposed to be built around photography and video, it has been a major disappointment. the Main camera/sensor is decent, but the zoom/cropped area is a bit small. The wide angle does cover a lot more at the cost of resolution. I am hoping that LG does something to address this in software/firmware updates, but as of now, it is a huge let down.
Audio: The single firing speaker does an admirable job for playing music, speaker phone on the other hand is a somewhat weak and sometimes hard to hear, even when driving in silent vehicle with the windows closed. The Quad DAC has also let me down. After the DAC in the Axon 7 and the HTC 10, I am not impressed. It does improve the audio, but not as well as the competition. With the DAC enabled and audio all the way up, the volume level is weak. With the same headphones that I used in the Axon 7 and the HTC 10, I have no problem hearing the outside noise. I also don't feel that it is nearly as tweakable / noticeable as the HTC 10. When I had the DAC on the HTC 10 on, I could immediately tell the difference and the Highs, Mids, and Lows were way easier to notice / spot changes on. Again, maybe software updates may resolve this, but definitely a let down for me.
Overall: The phone is beautiful. For a phone with removable battery, it honestly feels like a unibody device. I am a bit disappointed in all phone manufacturers currently going to this 2.5D curved glass for no good reason, making getting tempered glass protectors a joke majority of the time. The software overall is fairly smooth. The screen is above average and the secondary screen has become second nature to me. Being able to snap a wide angle shot when others can't definitely something that has lead to people asking me what phone I am using. Had I not gone through all the phones I have in the last 6 months, I may have been way more impressed. As a flagship device, I will say it comes close to delivering what was promised. Had the Note 7 not failed miserably with the exploding issue, I think the V20 would have easily been eclipsed. This phone gets so close in many departments, but doesn't quite nail them down. Considering there is nothing else in the market that draws my attention, I will try and see if it makes it through the initial growing pains that might be solved with software updates.
Before anyone wants to say I forgot about the Pixel, no, I didn't. After having the HTC 10 (which I still have and love as a backup device) and playing with the Pixel, I see absolutely no reason to waste the money on the sad excuse of a flagship device at the same taxing price as an apple product. How google basically took the HTC 10, made it ugly , went with onscreen buttons and a whole lot of bezel, and took away removable storage but is still succeeding with it is beyond me. Yes it has an "amazing camera", assistant (you can get with root on the v20 and nexus 6p), and can charge the battery super fast, but the price tag and lack of innovation is a deal breaker.
So, please, let me know if you agree or disagree. I have been trying to be unbiased and love this phone. Am I being unreasonable, or is it really just a device that got close to the finish line and just gave up?
I think it all depends on what your needs are. We know it doesn't have the best camera. It's very competitive, but not the best. Performance can be fixed with updates. I suspect that LG rushed the ROM to be the first to have Nougat, which was one of their selling points for this phone. Battery life depends on your usage. LG's Quantum displays are horribly inefficient, so the screen is your primary battery drain, but my understanding is that idle drain is very good. Then you have fast charging and one of the few phones that you can instantly go to 100% on by swapping batteries.
For me, this is the only phone that checks all of my requirements: Functional always-on-display, IR blaster, 5.7"+ screen, good camera, removable battery and SD card. So, I'm buying the complete package, not because it's the best at everything. Every single phone has shortcomings. You need to decide which ones you can live with and buy your next device based on that criteria.
I'm with you, I thought the camera was quite a disappointment when shooting in auto mode. I liked the phone a lot (coming from a Nexus 6p) and if the camera had been good it would have been a no-brainer for me, because as greyhulk says it checks most, if not all, the boxes. But I need a camera that shoots good pics in auto mode. Sent it back.
Also disappointed with the camera. Especially after coming from the Note 7..
Settings/Developer Options/ Tick on "Force GPU Rendering" should make your beast smoother/snappier. So any kind of lag should disappear!
If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store!
LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts and are well optimised with the Snapdragon 820 and is better than Samsung!
Battery is my main disappointment. Even with minimal use I have only made it an entire day once. Something keeps eating battery while the phone is idle and I have yet to track it down. I suspect it is an app that needs a Nougat update. Same usage and set of apps on the S7 Edge and Note 7 would usually leave me near 50% at the end of the day.
Have to say I disagree.
The Hi-Fi is plenty loud enough and noticeably changes on the go. I have noticed though, it depends on the headphones that you are using. I have used 4 different sets. And each pair gave different results.
The camera is great. Video is turning out to be exactly as expected. As for the camera, it doesn't grab the shot in the first try every time and its nothing a tap of the screen and refocus hasn't been able to fix. But than again I haven't had a camera phone that has been able to take the shot first time every time.
Battery, that's a user to user base question. The other day I was able to get 32 hours out of my battery. But than on the other hand with very heavy use I only got 6.5 hours.
Weird I get about the same battery life as I did with my note 7. When at work I use the phone about the same amount every day 12 hr shifts and I am between. 50 to 70 percent
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I think your disappointment stems from using so many current generation phones, lets face it most years the hardware upgrades (specifically processors) match each other.
The HTC 10 runs the same hardware as the LG v20, so you've experienced it already. S7 has the same processor as well (assuming its the Qualcomm version) so it's not a big difference compared to someone coming from last generation phones.
Like for me I am coming from a v10 which had an outdated processor out the gate (others were using 810 while the v10 had the 808 due to overheating issues with the 810). The phone is literally over twice as fast as the v10 so I would certainly see a difference compared to you coming from the same generation of processors.
I don't own the phone yet but I will say it's a disappointment to see the camera being a letdown in reviews when you consider that the camera was the big feature of the v10.
Battery doesn't sound all that great either but it's got to be better than the v10. I am sure this will be remedied by 3rd party extended batteries that we will hopefully see. My v10 battery sucked until I upgraded to a 9000 mAh Zerolemon battery pack.
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Ali Mirza said:
Settings/Developer Options/ Tick on "Force GPU Rendering" should make your beast smoother/snappier. So any kind of lag should disappear!
If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store!
LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts and are well optimised with the Snapdragon 820 and is better than Samsung!
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Hello! What specifically does the "Force GPU Rendering" option?
I think you will settle with the Porsche Design Mate 9. Just a feeling lol
Why's there no option for ambivalence or just predictable? Just look at the stats and you pretty much know what you're getting. I'm happy with this phone after the $200 off and assuming I get the ~$150 headphone offer. I would be unhappy for full list price without those promos. For the price w/promos there just isn't anything comparable.
The display is the worst part of this phone for me. AMOLED just beats LCD anyway you slice it, this phone looks badly washed out and the auto brightness does weird things. Also the viewing angles are wonky, I was used to being able to use my phone at extreme angles but now I find myself lifting the phone up more. If this phone had AMOLED it would be a solid 9.9/10 for me, of course I knew I wouldn't like the screen when I bought it I just couldn't find a solid AMOLED phone. I don't particularly like the fingerprint reader position, have to pick it up off a table to use it and I've found my finger accidentally turns the screen on sometimes when I put it in my pocket. The second screen is nice for changing tracks or seeing what track is playing (or seeing the time at night without going blind), but it sucks for notifications. I miss my notification LED and my Qi charging.
Other than that this phone is pretty solid. I'm getting almost identical battery life that my Note 7 got, namely about 2 days. The standby battery life is phenomenal, I usually lose 1-2% overnight even with the second screen on. I love the removable battery so I don't have to worry about the battery dying before I'm ready to get rid of the phone. I'm no audiophile, so to me this phone is the best audio experience I've ever had with a phone hands down. Even streaming at just 192kbps this phone really makes my Shure SE215's sing. The camera is noticeably worse than the Note 7 at low light but it's still the 2nd best camera on a phone I've seen. Close up pictures have lots of nice detail and that's the kind of pictures I usually take. It focuses quickly and locks focus down better than the Note 7 did. For the kinds of the pictures I take in fact this camera is better, unlike my Samsungs this phone's auto white balance mode works correctly. The whole phone feels quick and snappy, comparable to the Note. I'm getting slightly better signal than I've ever gotten, in fact the wifi is much stronger than either of my Note 7's were.
I like the look of the phone and it feels great in my hands, which although not as great as the all glass Note 7, it feels like I could drop it and have nothing to worry about. I don't find the UI intrusive or laggy, eventually I'll swap over to nova prime once I'm tired of stock. For me it ticks all the right boxes of keeping old features rather than heading the apple direction and removing everything. Removable battery, SD card, IR Blaster, headphone jack, USB C, etc For that reason alone I think it's worth supporting LG
I agree
Main reasons I am keeping it are the $200 off, switched to T-mobile from VZW, and they are paying off the ETF so saving that money and the headphones makes the phone ideally almost free to me. For the full retail, I would return it in a heartbeat. People have hit it on the head that it really might be the fact the the Snapdragon 820 and the 4 GB ram is now getting long in the tooth. The camera can produce some nice pictures in manual mode, so I try to jump to that right away, but just a bit of a hassle to be on the ball to take a simple pic. With moderate light and close up, it does perform well. I can't really control lighting at all times and try and get my daughter up close and still when a picture moment comes though, the s7 handled it much better. I am going to try some different headphones to see if it is just the main pair I use that is letting me down. For the money / hardware, I think the Axon is the better bang for the buck with the AMOLED screen and the all carrier support. The speakers on that are ridiculous and the DAC was solid. This phone over all falls somewhere in the 7.5-8 /10 for me. Between the V20 and the HTC 10 I'll be good til the next wave of Flagships hit. I just have the feeling that LG pushed it out in a hurry to capitalize on the Note 7 flop and they could've polished it up a lot more. I can see them making the camera more responsive in low light and possibly addressing the battery life / hifi-dac customization / volume in the updates. It does a lot right but overall I was expecting and hoping for more from LG when they have had the perfect shot to grab the market. So far I am seeing the responses that seem line up with my expectation. Thanks everyone for taking the time to read and respond!
bishmaster5000 said:
Why's there no option for ambivalence or just predictable? Just look at the stats and you pretty much know what you're getting. I'm happy with this phone after the $200 off and assuming I get the ~$150 headphone offer. I would be unhappy for full list price without those promos. For the price w/promos there just isn't anything comparable.
The display is the worst part of this phone for me. AMOLED just beats LCD anyway you slice it, this phone looks badly washed out and the auto brightness does weird things. Also the viewing angles are wonky, I was used to being able to use my phone at extreme angles but now I find myself lifting the phone up more. If this phone had AMOLED it would be a solid 9.9/10 for me, of course I knew I wouldn't like the screen when I bought it I just couldn't find a solid AMOLED phone. I don't particularly like the fingerprint reader position, have to pick it up off a table to use it and I've found my finger accidentally turns the screen on sometimes when I put it in my pocket. The second screen is nice for changing tracks or seeing what track is playing (or seeing the time at night without going blind), but it sucks for notifications. I miss my notification LED and my Qi charging.
Other than that this phone is pretty solid. I'm getting almost identical battery life that my Note 7 got, namely about 2 days. The standby battery life is phenomenal, I usually lose 1-2% overnight even with the second screen on. I love the removable battery so I don't have to worry about the battery dying before I'm ready to get rid of the phone. I'm no audiophile, so to me this phone is the best audio experience I've ever had with a phone hands down. Even streaming at just 192kbps this phone really makes my Shure SE215's sing. The camera is noticeably worse than the Note 7 at low light but it's still the 2nd best camera on a phone I've seen. Close up pictures have lots of nice detail and that's the kind of pictures I usually take. It focuses quickly and locks focus down better than the Note 7 did. For the kinds of the pictures I take in fact this camera is better, unlike my Samsungs this phone's auto white balance mode works correctly. The whole phone feels quick and snappy, comparable to the Note. I'm getting slightly better signal than I've ever gotten, in fact the wifi is much stronger than either of my Note 7's were.
I like the look of the phone and it feels great in my hands, which although not as great as the all glass Note 7, it feels like I could drop it and have nothing to worry about. I don't find the UI intrusive or laggy, eventually I'll swap over to nova prime once I'm tired of stock. For me it ticks all the right boxes of keeping old features rather than heading the apple direction and removing everything. Removable battery, SD card, IR Blaster, headphone jack, USB C, etc For that reason alone I think it's worth supporting LG
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Ali Mirza said:
Settings/Developer Options/ Tick on "Force GPU Rendering" should make your beast smoother/snappier. So any kind of lag should disappear!
If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store!
LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts and are well optimised with the Snapdragon 820 and is better than Samsung!
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Please stop posting this everywhere
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You also forgot to mention the locked bootloader
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I came from the LG Nexus 5x and I loved that phone. While it's only been a few days, I am more than happy with the V20.
I get a phone through work, but upgraded on my own last year to the 5x. So when I cracked my screen a few weeks ago, I went through work this time. Options were limited on AT&T and since I'm gonna be stuck with a phone for 2 years I wanted the newest phone I could get without "compromising" what I'd wanted in a phone. I also didn't want to settle for a year old phone or switch to the iPhone (Android since 2010 and likely forever).
Anyway, I say all that to say that the V20 was never on my radar, mostly because of the size, even though I'd previously had the Note 2, 3 and briefly 4. I'd been very happy with the size and feel of the 5x, but the battery life was horrendous. Basically anything would have been an upgrade, and the V20 does more than I need in the battery department. If I can get to my bed before needing a charge, I'm a happy man, since I'd be charging around lunch on a daily basis before.
I was already used to the fingerprint sensor and love the fact it's on the back on the V20 as well. I can deal with the volume buttons swapped and the power button moving to the fingerprint sensor. It was a little odd at first but I'm used to it already.
Again, the camera and screen on the 5x was mediocre so anything would be better. And again the V20 checks both of those boxes; huge, vibrant screen, and pictures that look beautiful to my eye. If you're going from newest flagship to newest flagship an argument can be made on those points, but if you're upgrading after a year + the hardware is always going to be better, even if you find some flaws, and IMO the V20 does great in both categories.
The removable battery does have its pros. A few years ago it was a 'must-have' for me, but nowadays I'd taker water/dust proofing over it. Not a deal breaker though. The SD card slot IS however a wonderful thing. Despite the 64 GB internal, I love being able to add and not worry about space. I've had my local music library backed up to an SD card for quite a while and it's so convenient to have that at my disposal locally (no network connection needed).
The software. Not much better than PURE Android and rooting has always been a priority for me. BUT, stability ultimately is the most important thing on a phone to me now. Being able to lower DPI via adb shell is huge. Really not having TiBu or the ability to remove some carrier apps is about the worst left we can't do. And to be honest, it's easily overlooked. Is it annoying AF we can't remove everything we don't want? Absolutely. But said apps can be hidden with certain launchers, and I've come to just ignore them in the app drawer, forgetting they're even there.
Add in the FM radio (so novel yet so great), Second Screen (which I actually could use some tips on getting the most out of) and I'm digging this phone. Is LG's UI a little clunky? Yea, but I'll live. And using something new is refreshing, honestly.
It's only been a few days but I'm happy with this device and have no regrets. The V20 may also get me back on the Phablet train, being unable to use something smaller as they feel like toys. I've not gone a full 2 years without upgrading in quite some time. This phone is going to be the test.
/ rant
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I agree with what you say. I think my let down is from moving from flagship to flagship all into the same time frame. The coming from any device before the snapdragon 820 and a quad HD screen, this thing is a major upgrade. I agree that the fingerprint scanner is best on back... Loved it on the nexus 6p and the axon 7. I just sold my htc 10 so I'm committed to the v20. Holding out til something amazing comes this way...
bishmaster5000 said:
Why's there no option for ambivalence or just predictable? Just look at the stats and you pretty much know what you're getting. I'm happy with this phone after the $200 off and assuming I get the ~$150 headphone offer. I would be unhappy for full list price without those promos. For the price w/promos there just isn't anything comparable.
The display is the worst part of this phone for me. AMOLED just beats LCD anyway you slice it, this phone looks badly washed out and the auto brightness does weird things. Also the viewing angles are wonky, I was used to being able to use my phone at extreme angles but now I find myself lifting the phone up more. If this phone had AMOLED it would be a solid 9.9/10 for me, of course I knew I wouldn't like the screen when I bought it I just couldn't find a solid AMOLED phone. I don't particularly like the fingerprint reader position, have to pick it up off a table to use it and I've found my finger accidentally turns the screen on sometimes when I put it in my pocket. The second screen is nice for changing tracks or seeing what track is playing (or seeing the time at night without going blind), but it sucks for notifications. I miss my notification LED and my Qi charging.
Other than that this phone is pretty solid. I'm getting almost identical battery life that my Note 7 got, namely about 2 days. The standby battery life is phenomenal, I usually lose 1-2% overnight even with the second screen on. I love the removable battery so I don't have to worry about the battery dying before I'm ready to get rid of the phone. I'm no audiophile, so to me this phone is the best audio experience I've ever had with a phone hands down. Even streaming at just 192kbps this phone really makes my Shure SE215's sing. The camera is noticeably worse than the Note 7 at low light but it's still the 2nd best camera on a phone I've seen. Close up pictures have lots of nice detail and that's the kind of pictures I usually take. It focuses quickly and locks focus down better than the Note 7 did. For the kinds of the pictures I take in fact this camera is better, unlike my Samsungs this phone's auto white balance mode works correctly. The whole phone feels quick and snappy, comparable to the Note. I'm getting slightly better signal than I've ever gotten, in fact the wifi is much stronger than either of my Note 7's were.
I like the look of the phone and it feels great in my hands, which although not as great as the all glass Note 7, it feels like I could drop it and have nothing to worry about. I don't find the UI intrusive or laggy, eventually I'll swap over to nova prime once I'm tired of stock. For me it ticks all the right boxes of keeping old features rather than heading the apple direction and removing everything. Removable battery, SD card, IR Blaster, headphone jack, USB C, etc For that reason alone I think it's worth supporting LG
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I agree. Top tier amoled should've been here. Probably would've improved the already great battery life another 20%ish. And notification LED would've been awesome. Yeah yeah. I know we have second screen, but I don't use it. Probably why I get 6h+SOT all the time. 8h 1m was my best and I had 3% left. I get 7h+ often. Standby time is incredible. Hasn't been consistent for me but probably lose 1% about every 5h average. Need to root and get adblocking. That will probably improve battery life even more. Hoping a custom kernel with only modification of voltage settings will help too. Tired of all these unstable kernels with features I don't use or care.about. haven't stuck with a custom kernel since...maybe note2. It has been awhile. Just roll with stock kernel since no dev wants to make a simple kernel with voltage adjustments. Not paying anymore devs on kernels until they deliver. I've paid upfront twice and font nothing in return. Scumbags.and I hope the fingerprint scanner has features. Features like being able to use as track pad or minimum that uses swipes for shortcuts like the pixel. That would be friggin' awesome. And aside from camera on auto not being consistent the phone otherwise is almost flawless. I've gotten accustomed to the camera on auto though. Multiple pictures and using focus at different spots has helped tremendously. I've been able to tweak my screen close to accurate by eyeballing it so pictures look like the scenery on screen now. Got to test video and bi def recording today at veterans day parade. Both exceeded my high expectations. Just need slmevody to find binning of chips which I made a dedicated thread for but nobody answered. I've looked everywhere. And one of first things I do when I root is customize the boot up screen. Boring. Very boring and.typical of T-Mobile. I've only had to reboot for sim or micro SD reasons though. Very very stable. Micro SD isn't up to par unless I have root. Nonetheless I've been able to work around it. Just had to take care out. And everybody keeps saying IR blaster. I think our IT is a transceiver. Supposedly it can learn but I haven't tried yet. R.I.P. remotes if it indeed can learn. LG did good. Seems rushed but this is truly a flagship phone in many ways. Swappable battery in 2016on a flagship. Say what? LG needs to step it up on the accessories. Ready to buy a 6 pack of batteries. I got in on the $51 deal for the BCK-5200 package on Amazon. Now just need a good sale on batteries.
Coming from a note 7 I have mixed feelings. It ticks a lot of the boxes but I miss waterproof, the great samsung screens and I knew about those when I bought. The camera really disappointed me though. I was expecting it to take way better pics than it does. Spoiled from the note 7 I suppose. I didn't realize before buying it that it had the IR blaster and I had really been missing that from my s5. Nice to not have to hunt for remotes anymore. Its not ideal, but for someone like me that over 5.7" screen is a requirement it really is the best second choice to my old note 7. The bootloader sucks too. I had gotten out of the habit of reroming phones since samsung pay and now that I am off samsung I thought it would be fun to start that again. But nope. I have a sprint one and it seems to be non rootable at the moment.
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I do think a little bit of my dissapointment in the camera is not genuine. I am mainly comparing shots taken with this phones camera viewed on this phones screen to shots taken by the note 7 on the note 7's screen. The same photo would of course pop more on the amoled screen even if it was the same camera so thats part of the disappointment. But even still I think the note 7 took way better pics.
I love the phone other than no root, the camera I'm not really disappointed because I'm no photographer, the IR blaster is a must thank you LG, Samsung what are you thinking. The removable battery isn't a big deal since the battery does pretty good. If it was water proof that would top it off.
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