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just use wvgafix3 and the frame rate becomes more than double the default wvga 10-12fps. the games is so much better now
can anyone explain this? i mean vga is only %25 less pixels only but it performs more than %100 more
also i wonder if there is a way to get the game to run at full screen with 400x240 mode (full screen). at this resolution the game will probably run over 50fps
I have my game running at super smooth framerates (feels like 30ish fps) at the full WVGA resolution. All I did was install the Touch Diamond ATI graphics drivers on my Touch-IT v4.5 rom and it boosted my fps tremendously without me having to lower the resolution!!
The Xperia really is a fast little phone. It just needs the right software to make use of it.
where to find the driver ....if u could post the link it'd be nice !
I installed the game, runs really smooth and fast (dont know what fps)
Not useing fix or ati drivers
Lifes good on the x1 these days
wat game is it
I have running itje's custom ROM and am playing the game in its full WVGA glory... It is super fast without lags... and is a pretty great game!!! Hopefully SE will add more games in the final R3 ROm they release...
Can we have some links ???
What about screen shots???
I have R2A, and works in wvga very fast and with no problems.
Yes i found this game in the touch-it 4.0 topic it is in a cab archive install it and i is amazing hope sonyericcson release this game in the release of the news xperia...It is so fast and it has amazing graphics...Where did itje found this amazing game it is a develop by sonyericcson?They could really use this game to make more sell of this amazing phone i mean have you ever seen such a wonderful game?
I played it few times on my X1i, latest oryginal rom from SE, no additional drivers and it's very smooth, no lags at all. Nice game - and it's full version.
weird i just switched to wvga and its doing about 20 fps. i probably had stuff in the background when i tested initially ... not sure ohh well all is good
the cab of the game is here
Aaron J can you post the drivers you used here
also do you think this can run on 400x240 full screen
Hey guys here's the link to the ATI Driver in CAB form. See if it makes any difference for you.
http://www.4shared.com/file/93871170/d711462b/Diamond_Ati_d3d_driver1.html
playing on r2a wvga - perfect perfomance
R3 O2 rom, runs very nicely
a newer ROM (21016.1.6) it runs like perfect in WVGA!!! Amazing stuff by SE..
does this run on other htc devices like HD or diamond.its about time sony does something worthwhile to the rest of the wm scene
I just want to remind you guys, this game was decided to be included with the upcoming R3A ROM.
Do not blame SE or anyone if it doesn't run smooth or good on R1A or R2A ROMs because SE never intended it to be run on those ROMs.
I'm sure the best framerate and performance will be seen with the upcoming R3A rom.
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Hey guys here's the link to the ATI Driver in CAB form. See if it makes any difference for you.
http://www.4shared.com/file/93871170/d711462b/Diamond_Ati_d3d_driver1.html
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thanks it improved things quite a bit. the framerate is more consistant now. im adding tthe ati drivers to my sashimi auto installed cabs
it's been uploaded here http://rapidshare.com/files/2100699...r6415_-_Menu_softkey_fix__-_090227_signed.CAB
aah...one awesome game and i cant download it.... Rapidshare is kinda blocked in singapore isp's.
can someone email me pls?
or any non-rapidshare links?
will be extremely thankful..because i have no games on x1
Is anyone else experiencing this? On web pages or long lists, scrolling around is not nearly as smooth as it should be. My brother has a Hero, and the Evo is not as bad as that... but it is nowhere near as smooth as an iPhone is. If I scroll around quickly, it gets pretty jumpy, where the frame rate slows down a lot. I read another thread (maybe on a different forum) where people claim that it's just the difference between the speed of scrolling and/or the "coasting" feature of the phones, but this is not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to mainly the frame rate of scrolling around and also the lag between when my finger moves and when the action takes place. It is most apparent on bigger web pages and long lists (like the Manage Application list). But it also does not happen all the time.
I have Advanced Task Killer running too, set at "Crazy" and the kill frequency set to "When screen off". Is there anything else I can do to make scrolling smoother?
I'm sick of having my friends who have iPhones playing with it, and immediately commenting on how it's not nearly as responsive.
Any ideas?
I played with an EVO in the Sprint store yesterday and noticed the same thing. While overall I found it to be really fast, in some areas (like switching between home screens) it was noticeably choppy compared to my Hero. Though I should note that my Hero is rooted and running Fresh 2.1.1.
One suggestion I might make is to not use overly aggressive settings with a task killer. This has been known to cause some odd behavior with Android including choppiness.
Working amazingly for me. As close to the smoothness of an iPhone as I've ever seen.
Have you tried a full restore? Keep checking after each app installation to figure out what (if anything) is causing the problem.
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Do you have Live Wallpaper running?
I do not. In fact while "conditioning" my battery, brightness down minimum, WiFi/GPS/4G/Bluetooth all off as well.
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How much free memory do you have?
I noticed the choppiness too but it wasn't too bad, just unfitting of a phone with such high specs.
It's because of the Live Wallpapers, some are more processor intensive than others so some it's more noticeable on than others. Put a regular Wallpaper up and everythings nice and smooth.
I don't use Live Wallpapers anymore, they were cool for awhile but after a couple months of them on my Nexus the novelty has worn off.
I notice it also even with a regular wallpaper..i mean its pretty smooth but it does lag a bit.
I notice laggy scrolling within the HTC-built applications. For example, when looking through contact information or social updates. The scrolling is really bad, and I think that just might be because of the huge amount of information the HTC apps are processing. I'm sure all the social information being pulled from every end of the Internet isn't the easiest thing for the device to do, even if it is the Evo.
Aside from that, everything else is as smooth as butter.
Still stock on mine and I haven't noticed any lag, though I use Dolphin HD and Skyfire.
I don't have Live Wallpaper running, and about 200MB of free memory.
And I don't think it's with the HTC-built applications only. I notice it in most applications. Just put an iPhone right beside it and scroll around on both... huge difference.
I just changed the settings on Advanced Task Killer to Aggressive (down from Crazy) and Every half hour (down from When screen off). Maybe this will help... we'll see. Maybe Advanced Task Killer is not the best app for this? Are there any better ones? Why didn't Google have this built in if it really helped so much with speed+battery life?
Maybe FroYo will fix this issue? Does anyone know when this will be available?
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Maybe FroYo will fix this issue? Does anyone know when this will be available?
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I have noticed this too at times. Froyo made my Nexus One a hell of a lot faster, it will do the same for the Evo
Still on Stock rom and no root, scrolling, pinch zoom are all smooth and fast.
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Still on Stock rom and no root, scrolling, pinch zoom are all smooth and fast.
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Have you compared it to an iPhone though?
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Have you compared it to an iPhone though?
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I've seen this too and mentioned it to other Android people... and was promptly called a cry baby. I am coming from a 3gs...and just thought it was silly the 1ghz chip in this phone cant compare to the 600mhz chip in the iphone.
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I've seen this too and mentioned it to other Android people... and was promptly called a cry baby. I am coming from a 3gs...and just thought it was silly the 1ghz chip in this phone cant compare to the 600mhz chip in the iphone.
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It's all about the quality of the programming, i'm not calling htc programers bad but it seems like some of their stuff is just slow.
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I've seen this too and mentioned it to other Android people... and was promptly called a cry baby. I am coming from a 3gs...and just thought it was silly the 1ghz chip in this phone cant compare to the 600mhz chip in the iphone.
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First u have to realize that the iphone was built with its gpu base OS. So all the scrolling and animation are base on gpu WITH THE HELP OF CPU. Android will be more dificult since of all its different hardware. Iphone OS is just base on iphone hardware but If iphone was running without gpu support, it would move like crap.
One example of this is zuneHD. it is base on a hardware base on tegra with gpu support and is smoother than iphone since tegra is a more capable gpu chip.
This discussion has been on and off with palmpre guys and waiting for an update to enable gpu support in the OS. Gpu support is supported in game but not in the OS for scrolling etc. Just like android.
This is the reason the iphone can run smooth at low mhz. The iphone 2g even at its low mhz still is smoother in scrolling and transiction than android because of it gpu intigrationbut ofcourse not faster. Hope this help.
Another example is compiz for linux. It create a semi gpu OS of linux and u can see how compiz on linux look light yeat better and smoother than wimdows 7 with a much lower hardware spec.
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First u have to realize that the iphone was built with its gpu base OS. So all the scrolling and animation are base on gpu WITH THE HELP OF CPU. Android will be more dificult since of all its different hardware. Iphone OS is just base on iphone hardware but If iphone was running without gpu support, it would move like crap.
One example of this is zuneHD. it is base on a hardware base on tegra with gpu support and is smoother than iphone since tegra is a more capable gpu chip.
This discussion has been on and off with palmpre guys and waiting for an update to enable gpu support in the OS. Gpu support is supported in game but not in the OS for scrolling etc. Just like android.
This is the reason the iphone can run smooth at low mhz. The iphone 2g even at its low mhz still is smoother in scrolling and transiction than android because of it gpu intigrationbut ofcourse not faster. Hope this help.
Another example is compiz for linux. It create a semi gpu OS of linux and u can see how compiz on linux look light yeat better and smoother than wimdows 7 with a much lower hardware spec.
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Thanks that explains a lot, i wasn't aware Android doesn't use GPU support in this area.
I just wanted to throw this in. I know everyone is comparing things like the scrolling framerate to the iPhone's. But there is one slight issue that a lot of developers can tell you off the bat.
JAVA
iPhone is not based on java and android UI is. This is sort of why JIT is slated to make such a big difference. Java is just laggy, especially when it comes to UI. For instance: open office, eclipse, and just about any other java based app I see on linux. GTK apps are fine in ubuntu, but when I open eclipse I just know there is a delay between when I click the "file" menu and when it actually opens.
I noticed it on my hero, and no amount of free ram or killing apps would completely get rid of it. Now I have to say going from the hero to the evo I honestly do not notice any lag. But the UI on the hero just has a solid delay EVERYWHERE you go. But I noticed it was not there as soon as I got into a game written in the dalvik way. It will come, and we will eventually be there. But I don't blame it on hardware. Core2quad in eclipse and the UI lags? Blame it on Java.
Now I know some folks will say "nu uhh. such and such java android app doesn't do that!" But almost all apps for android and sense do this if they are written in java. Some more than others.
One final thing, there are several articles about why you shouldn't use task killers. It became perfectly clear it was a bad idea on some of toast's later kernel. and yes, the memory management can be improved for root users. but for non root users, I know it is counter-intuitive but task killers have major drawbacks. Just do some searching and decide for yourself, but I noticed a huge difference on my hero when I stopped using a task killer and allowed the default memory management to take over. And honestly, on my EVO I don't EVER notice a slow down.
does anybody have any rough ideas what would the wildfire score in linpack with jit in like a cyanogenmod and overclocked? i see many lower budget smartphones reaching 10/15 mflops! would this be possible on the wildfire?
Yes! when running 2.2 android maybe!
My desire had 8 on 2.1 android.
Moved to 40 with 2.2 android
its 5x more. today wildfire have ~3 x5=15 so yeah maybe.
so we have to wait for froyo to come?
my main concern is that when im going through settings and apps and all that, i get some lag. for example when in settings and i press for something to open, the transaction is not smooth as the desire. would that be better with the froyo update?
no answer? :/
FroYo is way more efficient and thus its faster.
http://www.androidcentral.com/how-fast-android-22-froyo-reportedly-boost-speed-450-percent
with launcherpro you can go through your apps with no lag at all so i guess its not the "raw cpu power" thats missing then rather bad optimization of htc sense for wildfire. i could be wrong tho
what i mean is for example when ur in setting and press about phone, in desire and other phones the transaction to next screen is very fast and smooth while on the wildfire i have to wait just a little bit.
would that be better when froyo finally come out -.-
I know what zaphod-159 is talking about now, I have a Legend and playing Hyper Jump (lite) on it is good and fast - however on my wifes' Wildfire it's much slower and to me is not playable. The processor's are similar and the speed difference in Mhz is not a great deal, but yet it is so much slower.
Hopefully 2.2 official will solve that and the reports of x10 increase some phones have had will happen on the Wildfire
that would be soo nice any idea when froyo will be out for the wildfire?
btw, which phones showed an increase of x10? and would that be possible on the wildfire?
First of all I'd like to thank darkstone for these awesome tweaks.
I was wondering how these performance gains were obtained. Did they come at any cost to video quality and do they cause an increase in all 3d performance or just in certain situations? Can we expect anymore optimizations?
Is it at all possible to overclock our GPUs so we can get some decent performance out of our crappy z430s?
they tried but came to the conclusion its impossible h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710850&highlight=overclocking+gpu
Damn it, that sucks
Thanks for the link.
i think it is all about crap htc drivers , the original htc drivers for all of its phones are sh*tty what proves my point is the darkstone graphics tweaks that gives results better than stock android devices with same gpu on neocore (nexus (28.6) desire (28) ,evo 4g (25 ) HD2 with fix (31.5)
The speed improvement is noticeable with that graphic tweak, i have tired to play Asphalt 5 and it is much much smoother than previous build , even faster , smoother than the NexusOne and Desire.
can be del.
I hope there is additional room for improvement at least with driver optimizations. Real bummer that we can't OC though. Looking at that other thread, it looked like HTC didn't feel that the kernel needed to have control over GPU clocks...
Hi folks,
i just downloaded the version from android market, but it hangs up on loading screen.
I wondered if anyone got it to work?
Sincerely,
fk
Hi mate I unlocked the market place with chainfire and downloaded it and it hangs After the video is played but on YouTube there's a lad who had it working on stock 2.3.5 htcs latest update for our phone I've tried it got stuck with hboot finally got back to 98 and I can't still get it work
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Got it running but removed it again. It just runs to slow on a Desire(on my Desire).
It's like driving cars in slow motion with 1 fps.
So I guess there's no point in trying this!
Thanks to all of you!
It's laggy as hell... Some shaman dances and magic spells seemed to increase fps from 1 to 5-6, yet still impossible to play)) Well, maybe Rockstar will concider optimizing GTA3 for single-core devices...
Sadly Desire can't play this game, its hardware just isn't powerful enough. Also installed it on GF Samsung Galaxy S2 and it works super smooth.
I download it now, it has 430mb, almost certainly it will be very laggy, same like Gameloft HD games.
yep did 2 missions but it ****es me up.. like the pre poster said 1fps its laggy and makes no fun to play it on the desire..
waiting for my new sgs2
My Desire S runs it fine!
Wow, I guess the 2nd gen CPU and GPU must make a heck of a difference!
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It lags,can't play it!
Just use this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305060 and set it for hard gaming, and use chainfire and set it like the picture, and overclock ur device to the max.
It works for me. Sometimes it's a bit laggy but it's very playable.
P.S. the chainfire setup is only for desire, might want to select "reduce textures" instead of "unroll". But on the desire it works great.
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hi im also having the same loading screen problem on my samsung galaxy s plus i9001.ur rom kanager and chainfire settings doesnt help me,someone pls share if u have any new fix.
olyloh6696 said:
My Desire S runs it fine!
Wow, I guess the 2nd gen CPU and GPU must make a heck of a difference!
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From what I have seen on youtube desire S is just has bad. but much more playable then desire, still slow FPS.
With RAM Manager gaming mode GTA3 runs better but still unplayable.
This game need better CPU.
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From what I have seen on youtube desire S is just has bad. but much more playable then desire, still slow FPS.
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Yeah, i take back what i said before
It was smooth and all, for a bit, but after playing 15mins or so, the game begins to lag...
I tried OC to 1.5Ghz, but it doesnt make much of a difference
I'm on 1.0. I loaded 1.1, it works, but crashes after 5 minutes gameplay. I have to reboot my phone.
I don't see a performance inprovement in 1.1 tbh.
Watch a video of it on the Samsung galaxy tab 8.9 or ipad2 and you can see how liquid smooth it is!
There are higher graphics! You can see the headlights of cars, refelctions etc, seems much better and smooth!
Wonder how it holds up on the ipod touch4, it has 1ghz cpu and only 256mb RAM, less than your Desires. I saw on my Desire S, it takes up a hefty 153mb RAM when running!
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it lags,can't play it!
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olyloh6696 said:
Yeah, i take back what i said before
It was smooth and all, for a bit, but after playing 15mins or so, the game begins to lag...
I tried OC to 1.5Ghz, but it doesnt make much of a difference
I'm on 1.0. I loaded 1.1, it works, but crashes after 5 minutes gameplay. I have to reboot my phone.
I don't see a performance inprovement in 1.1 tbh.
Watch a video of it on the Samsung galaxy tab 8.9 or ipad2 and you can see how liquid smooth it is!
There are higher graphics! You can see the headlights of cars, refelctions etc, seems much better and smooth!
Wonder how it holds up on the ipod touch4, it has 1ghz cpu and only 256mb RAM, less than your Desires. I saw on my Desire S, it takes up a hefty 153mb RAM when running!
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Yep its time like these where I want October 2012 to come. Thats when I can get new phone lol But in saying that apart from gaming Desire still holds its own with even the big new phones. Who would of fort we can run sense 3.5 and now getting worked on ICS sense 3.5 time are still great, just not when playing some games lol.
I had less than 5 fps -.-'
It run smooth in the begining...
after entering the game.......
Everything change..........
slow...............
Desire is not suitable to play this...
Although there is some way to play it smooth (OC and chanfire), keep your desire to be long lasting
It lags very much. Desire's hardware is not enough for this game.