What rom is the mostly fully completed andvthe best one here and the most stable that is gibgerbread.... and no i dont give a.**** about gps..
cm7
10char
Yea CM7 is amazing
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Isnt asgard also really good?
Yes, it is.
what about simply honey?
It's good too.
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It's good too.
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There are only about 2-3, but CM7 is by far the best.
Be warned, there is some battery drainage, but if you can get past that, AMAZING GB ROM.
SOME battery drainage? At one point it was draining out while in the charger!
Asgard, CM7, Simply Galaxy all good but all have problems. Battery, GPS, rainbows.
I'm tempted to try the I9000 bootloaders and risk a brick to fix some of the stuff.
What I would like to know is why the captivate folks can port JVB to their phones and have working GPS and we can't? They also flash the I9000 bootloaders.
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Asgard, CM7, Simply Galaxy all good but all have problems. Battery, GPS, rainbows.
I'm tempted to try the I9000 bootloaders and risk a brick to fix some of the stuff.
What I would like to know is why the captivate folks can port JVB to their phones and have working GPS and we can't? They also flash the I9000 bootloaders.
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I heard something about how the vibrant is the only phone that had the physical GPS changed from the i9000. The other variants kept the same one. So we have no way of knowing how to fix that without hardware evaluation. Correct me if I'm wrong
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bobshute said:
Asgard, CM7, Simply Galaxy all good but all have problems. Battery, GPS, rainbows.
I'm tempted to try the I9000 bootloaders and risk a brick to fix some of the stuff.
What I would like to know is why the captivate folks can port JVB to their phones and have working GPS and we can't? They also flash the I9000 bootloaders.
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it's not a risk, it's guaranteed.
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it's not a risk, it's guaranteed.
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LMAO..Yeah probably
I am using Simply V3 and well ........... I have found it remarkable but does not bench as fast as some other 2.21 roms...... I not important to me. I do get some GPS (at least within 100 ft) but I do not need this as I have this in my car. But wow nice rom....... boots fast too !!!
CM7 is really fast and very stable but the battery drain is so bad that I can't recommend it to anyone who isn't going to be near a charger most of the day. My phone would drop to 10% by lunch.
I like Asgard a lot. The battery life is much better (unplugged it at 6 AM today, after moderate use, it's 10:30 PM and it's at 34%) and I enjoy TouchWiz 4.
bobshute said:
Asgard, CM7, Simply Galaxy all good but all have problems. Battery, GPS, rainbows.
I'm tempted to try the I9000 bootloaders and risk a brick to fix some of the stuff.
What I would like to know is why the captivate folks can port JVB to their phones and have working GPS and we can't? They also flash the I9000 bootloaders.
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I have i9k bootloaders it fixes rainbow and recovery issues
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so lets forget cm7 for now would u think simply honey is better or asgard???
Juwe's port I say. Smoothest than any other GB rom I've tried, and I've tried them all. Plus, no bugs at all. Except the GPS ofcourse but I never used it anyway.
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SOME battery drainage? At one point it was draining out while in the charger!
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Haaha .. lol. I was about to flash cm7 on my phone but abandoned that idea after reading this..
Related
Som if working on a mod for jk6 so I'm not going to flash jk6 and just wait for the awesomeness from tw anybody else think v5 and the other roms they've made are awesome enough to make you wait on flashing the new leak?i think so
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please use less periods next time.
Wat?
10 chars.
anthonys2r said:
please use less periods next time.
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Lol!
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Ok I'll take that under advisement
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ROFL!!!!!!!
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Don't be sensitive about periods. just make sure you put the tampon in the right hole next time.
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Don't be sensitive about periods. just make sure you put the tampon in the right hole next time.
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So now we know one reason why the devs are leaving this site. SHEESH.
Sorry you had to read that twice.
I hope my forum level punctuation is ok too°
I want to read about the new stuff and team whisky, ...prefer burbon myself.
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I pretty much only use team whiskey roms .......
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I'm also waiting on TW to make a rom built from this JK6 release! I'm on Obsidian v4.2 and it's perfect.
So now that we got an actual leaked TMO rom it's going to be even better. Tho I don't know how since I am, like I said, running PERFECT on obsidian v4.2
Yeah those guys are truly beasts at this rom mod game
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what is this? i don't even.
Just a chat about roms
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I don't even.....
12paq said:
I want to read about the new stuff and team whisky, ...prefer burbon myself.
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Bourbon is the best whisky!
It is nice to see someone spell whisky correctly
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Then dont even.........
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I'm also waiting on TW to make a rom built from this JK6 release! I'm on Obsidian v4.2 and it's perfect.
So now that we got an actual leaked TMO rom it's going to be even better. Tho I don't know how since I am, like I said, running PERFECT on obsidian v4.2
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JK2 is a leaked tmo rom, JK6 is just a revised leak.
This isn't as big of a jump as everyone is hyping it to be. I'm betting JK2 is about 90% of the performance we're going to get in total out of 2.2. I just flashed the JK6 modem over Axura Final until some big speed/performance improvements come along. Battery life has not been a problem for me.
Ok, So I just switched from the Evo over to my Samsung Epic and Not sure if i made the right move. Not a fan of Eclair(android 2.1) and I have not heard good news about the leaked 2.2 for the epic. I'm wondering whats an ideal setup on the epics. Do I upgrade to the leaked 2.2 and get a nice rom?(viperrom looks pretty decent) or do i stick with 2.1 and get a nice rom on that end?those who have a favorite tell me why and let me know some of the pros n cons.
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I would pick a nice 2.1 rom and wait for official Froyo to launch. There are some bugs with DK28 that are annoying as hell when they occur. None of the things that DK28 fixes are absolutely necessary, such as the much improved GPS. GPS still functions on 2.1, just not nearly as well as on Froyo.
You're kidding, right? GPS sucks on Froyo.
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I would pick a nice 2.1 rom and wait for official Froyo to launch. There are some bugs with DK28 that are annoying as hell when they occur. None of the things that DK28 fixes are absolutely necessary, such as the much improved GPS. GPS still functions on 2.1, just not nearly as well as on Froyo.
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Just sucessfully rooted my phone and now I'm thinking on which ROM to flash to. Probably going to take your advice and stick with 2.1 for now also. Have you tried SyndicateROM? I didn't see very many options for Roms in 2.1 and found this to be only plausible option was wondering if you have tried it and what did you think?(if you have)
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You're kidding, right? GPS sucks on Froyo.
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Works pretty damn well for me.
coke32 said:
Just sucessfully rooted my phone and now I'm thinking on which ROM to flash to. Probably going to take your advice and stick with 2.1 for now also. Have you tried SyndicateROM? I didn't see very many options for Roms in 2.1 and found this to be only plausible option was wondering if you have tried it and what did you think?(if you have)
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I ran syndicaterom for a while. It was very stable and nice. You can also pick a kernel to use in conjunction with whatever rom you use. Stock kernel is very stable obviously, but if you have concerns about battery life or something like that, or feel a need to overclock, there are kernels available that offer that. SyndiateRom comes with the Xtreme kernel if you flash the "Full" release, if I am remembering correctly. It is a very good all around kernel, although Phoenix 1.43 was always the best with regards to battery life for me.
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Ok, So I just switched from the Evo over to my Samsung Epic and Not sure if i made the right move. Not a fan of Eclair(android 2.1) and I have not heard good news about the leaked 2.2 for the epic. I'm wondering whats an ideal setup on the epics. Do I upgrade to the leaked 2.2 and get a nice rom?(viperrom looks pretty decent) or do i stick with 2.1 and get a nice rom on that end?those who have a favorite tell me why and let me know some of the pros n cons.
P.S Hi new to forum
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Odin to dk28, one click root, then install bonsai rom and optionally install a theme.
With this setup my GPS works better than it has for any other phone (lock in 5-10 seconds). Flash works, and the system flies. Not many cons that I'm aware of.
Cough cough.. bakedsnackshack.com
cd's or tapes?
Yeah I was running baked snack for a while with his kernal. Very very smooth and great battery. In the end I flashed froyo and I don't have any issues at all I would realy recommend trying it if you aren't a fan of 2.1.
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You're kidding, right? GPS sucks on Froyo.
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Mine is spot on....running EXT4 and custom ROM
If you want working GPS and Flash support in the browser go with a leaked DK28 ROM (ViperROM w/ EXT4 is my personal favorite). GPS is better than ever on Froyo - it actually works now! Extremely well at that... There is a process for going to DK28 and making the GPS happy, as long as you follow that process you'll be in great shape. I really can't think of a reason to be on DI18, unless you need to go into a Sprint store for some reason.
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Cough cough.. bakedsnackshack.com
cd's or tapes?
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Still overwhelmed, but I like your site's instructions, very thorough, thumbs up for that tip, I still am on stock rooted, but one of these days....at least this site is thorough...
I agree 2.2 is the way to go. The most of the problems on froyo can be pinpointed to a problem installing it. I've flashed froyo plenty of times and if you can get the gps steps down everything should be just fine. if your staying on eclair the overclocked syndicate rom is a beast.
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I vote 2.2, I have it and haven't looked back. Its luck of the draw. Some get more bugs then others. I lucked out I guess.
Another vote for 2.2 here. My ROM recommendation is Quantum, it's well-supported and its developer is on top of his game. Some other ROMs include a lot of... gimmicks. Yeah, we'll go with gimmicks. (It slices, it dices, it automagically makes your internets faster!)
In any case, there's no real reason for Android 2.1. The leaked FroYo is stable at this point. If you're getting force closes then it probably means something went wrong during flash. If you can follow instructions then it's not difficult.
Hi,
Well, i finally rooted my phone, after 5 dyas of dealing with the things, diferent ways, etc.
Now, I would like to know from you all guys, what ROMs are good out there. What do you all recomend me to try.
I already have Cyanogen on my little old G ( version 6 ) And it looks pretty cool.
Any suggestion? i want a stable ROM where i can Install the apps without problems, or having any kinda of signal problem, or networks ( g, 3G, HSPA) problems
Thanks for your Suggestions!
Daniel
If you like sense, evil d's virtuous fusion. I use to hate sense roms but I've been rockin it as a d'd for a while now. Battery life was horrible at first but with faux's low voltage kernel and juice defender, I've gotten surprisingly good battery life. Sense 3.0 features are elegant and functional. Way faster and stable than any other sense roms I used.
I use royal ginger for aosp Rom. Phenomenal battery life speed and stability.
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Find out...
Don_Perrignon said:
Find out...
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So someone posts a question in the q&a section and this is your answer? Can I add you to my list of "guys in the know"?
mr mystery said:
So someone posts a question in the q&a section and this is your answer? Can I add you to my list of "guys in the know"?
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Too damn funny...
mr mystery said:
So someone posts a question in the q&a section and this is your answer? Can I add you to my list of "guys in the know"?
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The point was people can give opinions, but you won't know what works for you until you try it yourself. He/she can listen to a suggestion just to found out they don't like it and flash another.
^^ That should have been obvious without me having to elaborate.
I switched to meXdroid a couple days ago and love it. It's really fast, battery is good looks great and everything works ( except your upside down in the front facing camera) but I can live with that. You can also download it through Rom Manager
It really depends what you are looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094805
royal ginger is my DD and i love it
gh0zt36 said:
royal ginger is my DD and i love it
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Does everything work with royal ginger?
Faux123's AOSP ROM is really smooth and everything works properly.
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Im using Beast rom since the day itwas released. Great battery life. GPS locks. Fast and extremely accurate(exactly @myaddress). Everything seems working properbly.
I'm using cm 7, an theres no problems with it. I had it for about a month now, not a single crash issue.
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Faux123's AOSP ROM is really smooth and everything works properly.
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Agreed..ITS DA BOMMMMMMMMB!!
Ive flashed a TON of roms, but always come back to demonSPEED as my dd. its just awesome
saotua said:
Im using Beast rom since the day itwas released. Great battery life. GPS locks. Fast and extremely accurate(exactly @myaddress). Everything seems working properbly.
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me too, using over a week & working perfect. Great battery life & SE theme.
I've rocked eViL DEE's Sense 3.0 ROM, RoyalThunder and Cyanogen.
I always go back to CM7Nx. But then again it's easy for us to put what we like on your phone. You should invest in Titanium Backup and explore the ROMs for your self like Donny P mentioned to begin with.
Hey there, getting an Epic very shortly and looking for what you folks find is the best ROM out there for it?
None and All. This is like the 30th thread in the last month exactly like this. Is search broken again?
For your answser..they are all good. Read the 1st post in each one to see if it has what you want because many have themes. Find what you like then read the whole thread so you know what issues you may encounter.
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Also I'm curious if you don't mind answering why are you getting the Epic?
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My money is on him getting the Epic Touch and he just didnt know there was a difference. Any takers?
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lancelane said:
My money is on him getting the Epic Touch and he just didnt know there was a difference. Any takers?
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I'll go $5! Epic is only $49 with new contract and with the slide out keyboard makes it real tempting for new customers.
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kennyglass123 said:
I'll go $5! Epic is only $49 with new contract and with the slide out keyboard makes it real tempting for new customers.
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This is what I'm thinking lol
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I think sams club has it for like $26..
xTmDarren said:
I think sams club has it for like $26..
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$0.97 at walmart
Tumpster said:
Hey there, getting an Epic very shortly and looking for what you folks find is the best ROM out there for it?
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There are lots of roms, and neither are the best. I beleive roms are NEVER stable. They always need to be modified, they always need to meet standards. No best ROM.. Period. But if I were to choose, MIUI would be the best LOOKING but not the best that's working.
its free on amazon..
I always try any rom thats put up because i like new things but im have been sticking with stuff from ERA on EC05 for stability
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So far I have used SRF, Reborn, ACS Bambozzled, ERA Viper, and I am currently using Simply AOSP. I have loved each Rom I have used, each have their quirks. Usually the GB runs give me a few headaches... like restoring with titanium screws up my app space, GPS is up and down, etc. I would recommend using an EC05 Rom until things are fully stable with GB (especially CM7 Selfkang), just to save yourself a few headaches.
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Tumpster said:
Hey there, getting an Epic very shortly and looking for what you folks find is the best ROM out there for it?
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I've only used a few. Stock, Viper (apocalypse, frozen, and synergy), and urban legend (fury and regen). I'm currently using Urban Regen 1.1.1, with Rodericks genocide 2.0 kernel. Lately, I try to stick with EC05 based ROMs and kernels for their stability and the number of options out there for EC05. I'm relatively new to rooting and flashing so i don't know everything there is to know about it, but I'm learning fast. I'm definitely not new to tech, holding a few IT certifications, a degree in CNT and presently in school working on another degree, so my knowledge of operating systems (especialy linux ) is helping me learn much faster. The best advice i can give you, is to read the forums, ask questions when you can't find an answer (no matter how stupid you think the question is) and to try a little of everything until you find what you like or learn how to do it yourself, lol. There are tons of guides, wikis, and awesome developers who are willing to help you as long as you try your best to help yourself as well. You'll get the occasional put down, or get called a noob, you'll make mistakes and feel dumb, but everyone does so don't worry about it. Just try to remember that pretty much any question you can think of, any problem you run into, and disaster you cause, has probably happened to someone else before and has probably been addressed more than twice on these forums, so do some searching before you just start posting "HELLLLLLP MEEEEEEE!!!" Another piece of advice i can give you, that i did with my first phone, is get a decent size and class sd, read a guide on how to dual boot ROMs (i think theres even an app now that does most of it for you!), root your phone, leave the stock ROM on your phone, flash a good kernel that supports dual booting (check out genocide 2.0). That way, you can try out new ROMs as much as you like and always be able to revert back to stock when you need some stability or if you run into bugs.
Good Luck!
Genocide 2.0 kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961614
SRF (seems to be pretty popular, ive never tried it): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091680
ViperROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=999894
Urban regen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013065
a list of ROMs that will most likely link you right back to XDA, lol: http://theunlockr.com/category/roms-2/android-roms-2/samsung-epic-4g-roms/
I like (no bias)
Srf 1.2+Genocide 2.0 kernel+ Supercharger scripts
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I've been rocking SRF 1.2 for about 3 months now with the Twilight Zone 1.1.1 Kernel. Very stable, no force closes or reboots, GPS locks instantly, over a full day of battery life. I'd stick with EC05 ROMs until the official GB ROMs drop. I've tried a few of the leaked GB roms and none of them have been stable enough to be daily drivers.
steveo314 said:
its free on amazon..
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Wow...now that's cheap ;8
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marcusant said:
I like (no bias)
Srf 1.2+Genocide 2.0 kernel+ Supercharger scripts
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Which scripts you running? Just curious, been thinking of flashing back to SRF.
I've been rollin' with IAP Rebirth the past several weeks. Awesome ROM, but I've been getting reboots. Haven't even touched the Supercharger scripts and it's the most responsive ROM I've used.
this may be outdated/unnecessary but i figured that i'd share / hope others would share too
im still skeptical about moving on to ICS for the vibrant just bc i need a phone that works 100% correctly all the time... so im still on froyo.
currently running bionix fishman mod final2 w/ bali-x @ 1.2ghz
essentially froyo tweaked in many ways w/ the appwidgetpicker
along with the miui camera, s.gps2 for gps fix, setcpu, and bln
is anyone else flashing any additional necessary files when they flash their roms??
share!
jonen said:
this may be outdated/unnecessary but i figured that i'd share / hope others would share too
im still skeptical about moving on to ICS for the vibrant just bc i need a phone that works 100% correctly all the time... so im still on froyo.
currently running bionix fishman mod final2 w/ bali-x @ 1.2ghz
essentially froyo tweaked in many ways w/ the appwidgetpicker
along with the miui camera, s.gps2 for gps fix, setcpu, and bln
is anyone else flashing any additional necessary files when they flash their roms??
share!
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I'm on the newest version of ICS Passion that released yesterday and my phone is 100% functional.
jalaldaniel said:
I'm on the newest version of ICS Passion that released yesterday and my phone is 100% functional.
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i was looking for froyo experience comments to compare to
i have been reading up on way too many accounts of various ICS issues so i wanted to consolidate the best of the best for froyo users for those who don't want the newest software just for the sake of having it
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Fishman is good. My needs are different. I need a Rom that is atleast 2.2.1. So the capacitive buttons dont blind me on each screen press. I'd recommend ultimate rom or biwinning with the sense or sgs2 theme. I also use Bali undervolt kernel. If you haven't already test out the modems for your area. For instance for me its KB1.
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I'm on the newest version of ICS Passion that released yesterday and my phone is 100% functional.
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I was on ICS Passion and 100% functionality is a stretch. Browsing through the thread reveals that damn near everyone else has problems too. I have issue with these devs that claim everything works when it's clearly a lie.
I'm using Fishman's 2.2 rom right now. No need to flash any other files for my needs. So far it's been pretty good.
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I was on ICS Passion and 100% functionality is a stretch. Browsing through the thread reveals that damn near everyone else has problems too. I have issue with these devs that claim everything works when it's clearly a lie.
I'm using Fishman's 2.2 rom right now. No need to flash any other files for my needs. So far it's been pretty good.
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i agree... im still on the fence of flashing an ICS rom but i think ill wait another couple of weeks bc im in no hurry to move on from a 100% functional rom
personally i think the miui camera is essential and am not sure why more people dont flash it over their roms. i use that & the stock hd recorder for a better camera experience
i also went back to a 2.2 rom...TARD...can yall post the links to the extras...i would love to try that s.gps fix...think what it was...
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i also went back to a 2.2 rom...TARD...can yall post the links to the extras...i would love to try that s.gps fix...think what it was...
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couldn't find the thread but... here it is
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15511362/S.gps.2.zip
just flash through cwm. (be my first thanks if you would please )
CM9's 16B is so functional that I put it on my Dad's phone, and he says it's running much better than it did before on Bionix. The only issue he and I have been having is the GPS, which never has worked from the beginning for us anyways, and very minor things (like the menu for toggle widgets is called lockscreens or something).
ICS is pretty awesome. You may want to give it a shot... I recommend the Icy Glitch kernel to go with CM9.
Is the official GB available for this yet?
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Is the official GB available for this yet?
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No, I'll be amazed if it ever is since the vibrant is close to 2 years old.
Oxirane said:
CM9's 16B is so functional that I put it on my Dad's phone, and he says it's running much better than it did before on Bionix. The only issue he and I have been having is the GPS, which never has worked from the beginning for us anyways, and very minor things (like the menu for toggle widgets is called lockscreens or something).
ICS is pretty awesome. You may want to give it a shot... I recommend the Icy Glitch kernel to go with CM9.
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when you say never worked, do you mean it as GPS ideally should? or even to the low standards of how the vibrant's GPS is supposed to work?
personally since everything works 100% as best as it possibly can right now on my vibrant with bionix fishman mod without a hardware gps fix, i'm very reluctant to move onto ICS if the GPS wont even lock within around 30 secs or so like i can get it to do with froyo especially if it is something i need eventually
minor things like menu names i can definitely deal with, but if froyo's GPS works better overall compared to an ICS rom, i see absolutely no reason to make the switch with this phone. if i need ICS that badly, i will get a new phone
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No, I'll be amazed if it ever is since the vibrant is close to 2 years old.
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Is the official GB available for this yet?
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agreed on that point... i would money down that an official GB release will never happen for the vibrant.