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Eugene OR TeamWhiskey 2.2

So it looks like they both have working 2.2 builds out in the wild now. My question is which one is better, or which one are YOU going to use? Let's try and keep the comparison here, that way we don't clog up both of these wonderful dev's threads.

I have never used either since I'm still stock. What was the general consensus before their new 2.2 builds?

I wouldn't know. They both have a huge following though. What I have noticed is that each one has very loyal followers. It almost seems as if its "either one or the other". But since it is now 2.2, it is a completely different ball game.

jzero88 said:
I wouldn't know. They both have a huge following though. What I have noticed is that each one has very loyal followers. It almost seems as if its "either one or the other". But since it is now 2.2, it is a completely different ball game.
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I thinks it's really your preference no two vibrants are the same so whatever works best for your phone and for you is what matters try them both try them all you'll figure out what's best for you I'm running bionix final with jacs oc/uv kernel but I've tried the froyo roms they are cool but for me this works best have fun and for the love of god stay drunk
Times never wasted when your getting waisted

I thinks it's really your preference no two vibrants are the same so whatever works best for your phone and for you is what matters try them both try them all you'll figure out what's best for you I'm running bionix final with jacs oc/uv kernel but I've tried the froyo roms they are cool but for me this works best have fun and for the love of god stay drunk
Times never wasted when your getting waisted
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lol +1
I love you man. nohomo

jzero88 said:
My question is which one is better?
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Fair question, but somewhat irrelevant in my opinion. My experience with stock vs cooked ROMs (MT3G CM6) is that the only real advantage is better speed. Sure, a few different user-experience changes, but that's all. An the stock ROMs are far more stable.
My stock Vibrant is already plenty fast. I'm rooted and can use root-only apps. My Dolphin browser already displays Flash. JIT will make it technically faster, but will I actually notice..? What would Eugene or TeamWhiskey add to that...?

Have not tried either but am running fusion by team wiskey with there kernel. Phone runs to good to worry about 2.2.
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argie said:
Fair question, but somewhat irrelevant in my opinion. My experience with stock vs cooked ROMs (MT3G CM6) is that the only real advantage is better speed. Sure, a few different user-experience changes, but that's all. An the stock ROMs are far more stable.
My stock Vibrant is already plenty fast. I'm rooted and can use root-only apps. My Dolphin browser already displays Flash. JIT will make it technically faster, but will I actually notice..? What would Eugene or TeamWhiskey add to that...?
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What flash are you running on stock?
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jonwilly said:
Have not tried either but am running fusion by team wiskey with there kernel. Phone runs to good to worry about 2.2.
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I like this post cause so many people wanna be on 2.2 for a lot of
Reasons but I only want the flash player lol
Times never wasted when your getting waisted

Team whiskey roms are far too buggy to rely on
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snorge said:
Team whiskey roms are far too buggy to rely on
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This statement is very inaccurate. When was the last time you installed a bionix rom?
I'm running the 2.2 and it is flawless. 2.2 offers a lot of improvements over 2.1 besides flash. If you don't know what those are then you really shouldn't be giving uninformed information.
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Which one looks like stock? Both? I really despise the all black theme I see on the 2.1 Bionix roms. It just looks tacky in some places like the notifications pull down and it's too black. I see Macnut looks kind of like stock.. no screenshots included with either tho. Either way I've downloaded Macnut and I will be installing it ASAP. I'll try the other 2.2 rom next..

willsnews said:
I like this post cause so many people wanna be on 2.2 for a lot of
Reasons but I only want the flash player lol
Times never wasted when your getting waisted
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2.2 is A VERY BIG update. I dont know about Vibrant, but it should improve battery, it should run faster due to JIT, it has MANY extra features, and its compatible with 2.2 apps (new Gmail, Chrome-to-phone, youtube, flash...etc). move to 2.3 is not that big
that said, i trust TW more then Eugene.

Personally I think it's too soon to be worried about which one is better for general use. I'd give it a little time for each to get some additional polish unless you just enjoy flashing roms all the time every time a new one comes out. Chances are there'll be bug-fixes and tweaks to both in the next few days. Wait for that and more feedback from the early adopters and then decide...

When I got my phone used it had Eugenes rom on it, but I felt Bionix and team Whiskeys roms have been the best roms besides CM.
Put it this way I have only donated to 2 developers, #1 CM and #2 Team Whiskey.

kangxi said:
This statement is very inaccurate. When was the last time you installed a bionix rom?
I'm running the 2.2 and it is flawless. 2.2 offers a lot of improvements over 2.1 besides flash. If you don't know what those are then you really shouldn't be giving uninformed information.
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It isn't flawless. Calendar doesn't sync. Holding back results in a FC (new screenshot feature not implemented properly). I've had inconsistency in the market. Don't get me wrong, I'm using it and I like it, but don't throw the word 'flawless' around so easily.

If you remove screencapture.apk that fixes the back button long press fc and you need to install calendar(something).apk to fix sync issues..

It all comes down to personal preference. My experience with Eugene's 2.1 ROMs are that they're TOO skinned. I personally prefer Team Whiskey.
To answer your question about which looks more stock, Team Whiskey hasn't really skinned the Obsidian ROM all that much, so it basically looks like Stock TouchWiz.

bullale said:
It isn't flawless. Calendar doesn't sync. Holding back results in a FC (new screenshot feature not implemented properly). I've had inconsistency in the market. Don't get me wrong, I'm using it and I like it, but don't throw the word 'flawless' around so easily.
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there is a fix already for both

I was using Macnut R7 and was about to flash R9 but Team Whiskeys downloaded faster. The major difference between R9 and 7 is, wi fi calling, modem and working gps with some minor tweeks.
If that is true then my comparison won't be too far off.
The biggest difference between the too is that Team W is a near perfect leak of the official 2.2 rom and Eugene's has some mods like built lag fix and a modified version of T.W. which for the most part is better than stock (not perfect but better; in my opinion)
That should really be what makes you choose which one you want.
Secondary things to think about is that, whiskey roms are known for getting official ota's which is nice if you want to get the official with little work, but its still kinda glitchy and slower than Eugenes, but not in a bad way. If you are running stock without a lag fix then you won't notice much. Eugene's rom is highly modded and some stock things won't work like if you still have avatar on your sdcard, and since his is a port there are some remnants of I9000 and cappy things floating around that can throw you off. But it is less glitchy atm and too me looks better. It has a lightly themed Modified TW. But you can get and install that yourself if you want there is a link in the macnut thread.
Hope that helps. I'm Running tw's rom now but I'm going to check out R9.

2.2.1 Deodexed Roms - Einherjar Dev Team

First of all, I have a Vibrant not an I9000.
As part of the Vibrant Ragnarok Project, I deodex everyone of your 2.2.1 leaks within minutes. I use them for what I need. But, if there is a market for stock deodexed 2.2.1 Roms over here then I can start posting them. Is there?
Also, I theme these and mod these roms, take a look over in the Vibrant development forum and let me know if you would be interested in seeing the same over here. Just look for the Einherjar Dev Team releases.

You could port over your m10 Rom they are really good on the battery im currently running it on my i9000 and.got everything to work
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SupaDuckie said:
You could port over your m10 Rom they are really good on the battery im currently running it on my i9000 and.got everything to work
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I've ported M - Flagship to yesterdays 2.2.1 leak already, i'll get it to you to test later on if you want.

umm yeahh ill test if you want me too the vibrant firmware on the i9000 still works great

SupaDuckie said:
umm yeahh ill test if you want me too the vibrant firmware on the i9000 still works great
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Unfortunately I9000 doesnt work as good on Vibrant though...
It just boggles my mind that the 2.2.1 roms cause the Vibrant to reboot whenever the strength of the signal gets stronger the -70 dbm..

oh i thought you would just have to replace modem and kernal and gps files and you should be all good :|

ROM Suggestion plz!

Hey XDA,
Its been a long time since I last did anything with my phone. Used to run Baked Snack and some other ROMs that were on here. Got a replacement phone and have just been running stock froyo for the past 6 months or so. I can't believe how many roms there are now for the Epic! None of them look familiar either.
I've been getting an itch to start flashing again. I was hoping to get some suggestions for what I should try next. Are there any good ones that you might recommend? I've been following MIUI for a while but am worried about reliability. As you might guess, a stable rom is most important to me. Battery life, and clean looks are also important. I don't need fancy backgrounds or startup animations. Just something as close to barebones as possible.
Any suggestions will be appreciated--TIA!

Srf 1.2 then flash the genocide 2.0 kernel in the same flash session. I'm sure many will give you this suggestion
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SRF 1.2 I use Revolted kernel w/it Sleek...clean...fast...no FCs. Many out there, but I'm stuck on this one. I think they're working on 1.3.
I like Go Green too, just the select menu was hard to read. But it's nice nonetheless. I think I ran that on EH17. SRF is EC05 based.
Anyhow...qbking77 has some great vids on youtube...there you can see how some of them look and work before trying them.
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.OmEgA said:
Srf 1.2 then flash the genocide 2.0 kernel in the same flash session. I'm sure many will give you this suggestion
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One more thing the journalon.zip too
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I like aosp rom
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I agree, Simply AOSP v4, and v4.1 will be out this weekend. It has journaling on by default and will flash the kernel automatically
But in all fairness, there really isn't a bad ROM in the Epic forum.

If you want no problems and basic rooted stock then you want either ReRFS ROM or odin in EC05plus.

volcomssj48 said:
Hey XDA,
Its been a long time since I last did anything with my phone. Used to run Baked Snack and some other ROMs that were on here. Got a replacement phone and have just been running stock froyo for the past 6 months or so. I can't believe how many roms there are now for the Epic! None of them look familiar either.
I've been getting an itch to start flashing again. I was hoping to get some suggestions for what I should try next. Are there any good ones that you might recommend? I've been following MIUI for a while but am worried about reliability. As you might guess, a stable rom is most important to me. Battery life, and clean looks are also important. I don't need fancy backgrounds or startup animations. Just something as close to barebones as possible.
Any suggestions will be appreciated--TIA!
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Gotta say..EC05 with SFR 1.2 and genocide.....i've flashed them all and for me this is the most stable

Whichever you decide, please read through the entire thread for that ROM in Development so you can see what issues might pop up and what was done to resolve them.

Bonsai 4.1.3 has been my go-to ROM. It's as close to perfect as I could imagine, really really stable, great battery life, and overall just reliable. It also does this without replacing your sounds with stupid robot noises, heavy metal guitars, or putting some ridiculous theme on your phone.
You'll have to google "epic 4g bonsai" to find the site, it's not available in the dev forums here.

I like stock for the most part, EH17
Though I have updated to EH17plus kernel

Best Rom for Epic

Hey there, getting an Epic very shortly and looking for what you folks find is the best ROM out there for it?

None and All. This is like the 30th thread in the last month exactly like this. Is search broken again?
For your answser..they are all good. Read the 1st post in each one to see if it has what you want because many have themes. Find what you like then read the whole thread so you know what issues you may encounter.
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Also I'm curious if you don't mind answering why are you getting the Epic?
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My money is on him getting the Epic Touch and he just didnt know there was a difference. Any takers?
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lancelane said:
My money is on him getting the Epic Touch and he just didnt know there was a difference. Any takers?
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I'll go $5! Epic is only $49 with new contract and with the slide out keyboard makes it real tempting for new customers.
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kennyglass123 said:
I'll go $5! Epic is only $49 with new contract and with the slide out keyboard makes it real tempting for new customers.
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This is what I'm thinking lol
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I think sams club has it for like $26..

xTmDarren said:
I think sams club has it for like $26..
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$0.97 at walmart

Tumpster said:
Hey there, getting an Epic very shortly and looking for what you folks find is the best ROM out there for it?
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There are lots of roms, and neither are the best. I beleive roms are NEVER stable. They always need to be modified, they always need to meet standards. No best ROM.. Period. But if I were to choose, MIUI would be the best LOOKING but not the best that's working.

its free on amazon..

I always try any rom thats put up because i like new things but im have been sticking with stuff from ERA on EC05 for stability
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So far I have used SRF, Reborn, ACS Bambozzled, ERA Viper, and I am currently using Simply AOSP. I have loved each Rom I have used, each have their quirks. Usually the GB runs give me a few headaches... like restoring with titanium screws up my app space, GPS is up and down, etc. I would recommend using an EC05 Rom until things are fully stable with GB (especially CM7 Selfkang), just to save yourself a few headaches.

Try Everything!
Tumpster said:
Hey there, getting an Epic very shortly and looking for what you folks find is the best ROM out there for it?
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I've only used a few. Stock, Viper (apocalypse, frozen, and synergy), and urban legend (fury and regen). I'm currently using Urban Regen 1.1.1, with Rodericks genocide 2.0 kernel. Lately, I try to stick with EC05 based ROMs and kernels for their stability and the number of options out there for EC05. I'm relatively new to rooting and flashing so i don't know everything there is to know about it, but I'm learning fast. I'm definitely not new to tech, holding a few IT certifications, a degree in CNT and presently in school working on another degree, so my knowledge of operating systems (especialy linux ) is helping me learn much faster. The best advice i can give you, is to read the forums, ask questions when you can't find an answer (no matter how stupid you think the question is) and to try a little of everything until you find what you like or learn how to do it yourself, lol. There are tons of guides, wikis, and awesome developers who are willing to help you as long as you try your best to help yourself as well. You'll get the occasional put down, or get called a noob, you'll make mistakes and feel dumb, but everyone does so don't worry about it. Just try to remember that pretty much any question you can think of, any problem you run into, and disaster you cause, has probably happened to someone else before and has probably been addressed more than twice on these forums, so do some searching before you just start posting "HELLLLLLP MEEEEEEE!!!" Another piece of advice i can give you, that i did with my first phone, is get a decent size and class sd, read a guide on how to dual boot ROMs (i think theres even an app now that does most of it for you!), root your phone, leave the stock ROM on your phone, flash a good kernel that supports dual booting (check out genocide 2.0). That way, you can try out new ROMs as much as you like and always be able to revert back to stock when you need some stability or if you run into bugs.
Good Luck!
Genocide 2.0 kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961614
SRF (seems to be pretty popular, ive never tried it): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091680
ViperROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=999894
Urban regen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013065
a list of ROMs that will most likely link you right back to XDA, lol: http://theunlockr.com/category/roms-2/android-roms-2/samsung-epic-4g-roms/

I like (no bias)
Srf 1.2+Genocide 2.0 kernel+ Supercharger scripts
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I've been rocking SRF 1.2 for about 3 months now with the Twilight Zone 1.1.1 Kernel. Very stable, no force closes or reboots, GPS locks instantly, over a full day of battery life. I'd stick with EC05 ROMs until the official GB ROMs drop. I've tried a few of the leaked GB roms and none of them have been stable enough to be daily drivers.

steveo314 said:
its free on amazon..
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Wow...now that's cheap ;8
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marcusant said:
I like (no bias)
Srf 1.2+Genocide 2.0 kernel+ Supercharger scripts
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Which scripts you running? Just curious, been thinking of flashing back to SRF.
I've been rollin' with IAP Rebirth the past several weeks. Awesome ROM, but I've been getting reboots. Haven't even touched the Supercharger scripts and it's the most responsive ROM I've used.

[Q] Latest, hottest ROM

I was on Legendary and then SimpleROM but I'm ready for a change as long as it is stable (like the ones I just mentioned). I tried reading the threads but they keep changing and some are very long.
Just wondering if someone knows since I have been on only this 2 ROMs for nearly a year.
tsp

Try out CM9.
It's pretty popping fresh.
Also, MIUI.
And in the future, we discourage best ROM threads.

Depends on how you use your phone. CM9 beta 0 is stable for a daily ROM. But If your a power user like on your phone nonstop then you will find yourself wanting a charger.
Also gotta ask the question to you want to move to the MTD side.... best bet is to read up on everything, then test out different roms till you find one that you like.
Sent from a CM9 powered Epic.

If you want a good stable Rom the marcusant rom version3 and the shake and bake theme are a nice combo. Also cm9 is also kinda nice but its still in beta

Threads are long because everyone is trying to butt hurt everyone else, and there are a lot of useless postings (such as this one). Just be sure whatever rom you use has the appropriate thanks, documentation and GPL reference or you will get blasted even as just a user.
Just try them all, go nuts, have fun! Just be sure to do whatever you can to brick your device so you can provide yourself with the logical reasoning to upgrade as quickly as possible.
Sent from my, is it safe to claim, personally semi-tweaked (but not shared) and still therefore kanged??? sammiEpic running some CM9b0 shiznizzle.....

Thanks to all that offered good advise and options.
And to clarify a few points:
1 - I did not ask what was the best ROM (I know better than that).
2 - I respect the advise of the users here and do not wish to try them all. It simply takes too much time when all the ROMs say to wipe everything clean including data. It's a very long process putting everything back the way it was. The last 2 updates I did did not update my programs so I had to install them all manually plus their data. And as some of you may know, restoring from backup is not always a good thing to do.
So... I really appreciate those that provided a few options for me to try. Will do soon. And btw I alway provide feedback to the thread on the ROMs that I try. Comes from being a technology administrator for many years.
Thanks again,
tsp

CleanGB
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I second that, CLEANGB!
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CM9
If you need battery life then use cm7.
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CM9! Seriously it's ****ing ICS and you will be surprised by how stable it is. There are bugs but as a daily driver I personally haven't run into any.

tsperez said:
I was on Legendary and then SimpleROM but I'm ready for a change as long as it is stable (like the ones I just mentioned). I tried reading the threads but they keep changing and some are very long.
Just wondering if someone knows since I have been on only this 2 ROMs for nearly a year.
tsp
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In order for someone to answer this you have to let people know how you use your phone. Are you hooled on the Touchwiz interface? Then it would require some work and getting similiar apps for CM7, CM9 or any other AOSP ROM. If you just want to update to the newer firmware and like how your phone is running now, then Sleeper or CleanGB. If you need more app space then you want to go to an MTD ROM like CleanGB MTD. At least read the OP's of any ROM you are considering to know all the features.

tsperez said:
I was on Legendary and then SimpleROM but I'm ready for a change as long as it is stable (like the ones I just mentioned). I tried reading the threads but they keep changing and some are very long.
Just wondering if someone knows since I have been on only this 2 ROMs for nearly a year.
tsp
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im running marcusants nexus s port and its really stable and everything besides voice search works

CM9 ICS
I've been using CM9 ICS since alpha 2 and I had to Odin my phone back to stock for some weird reason. It was so strange seeing the stock interface after using ICS. "I can't swipe notifications away? What is this vertical scrolling? Bloatware???" So yeah, beta 0 seems good enough for me for now, plus the battery life is way better than stock.

CM9 for sure. The only real issue was the phantom voicemail but there is a fix for it now (as of today).

Loving the CM9. It's like a new phone!
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Tried CM9 and it was allot more stable than I expected. However it still needs work and is not as solid as stock. The lag overall started to annoy me along with other things like garbled text messaging, 4G issues, occasional reboots, and no visual voicemail, but the devs are doing a great job.
I am on Clean GB right now and will jump back to Thunderhawk when Random updates to El30.
Dont flame my opinion, please.

Jed Dignazio said:
Tried CM9 and it was allot more stable than I expected. However it still needs work and is not as solid as stock. The lag overall started to annoy me along with other things like garbled text messaging, 4G issues, occasional reboots, and no visual voicemail, but the devs are doing a great job.
I am on Clean GB right now and will jump back to Thunderhawk when Random updates to El30.
Dont flame my opinion, please.
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What about CM7 Beta? have you given that a try?

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What about CM7 Beta? have you given that a try?
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Hmm, No. I tried the RC0, but not the Beta. I think I am picky and just need everything to work as good as stock or better.

Jed Dignazio said:
Hmm, No. I tried the RC0, but not the Beta. I think I am picky and just need everything to work as good as stock or better.
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CM7 is 99% on the dot to being stock if not better haha try it out it says MMS may be unreliable it may not download sometimes but after clicking a few times it works but i had this on stock as well haha

XxLostSoulxX said:
CM7 is 99% on the dot to being stock if not better haha try it out it says MMS may be unreliable it may not download sometimes but after clicking a few times it works but i had this on stock as well haha
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My mms only works on cm9/variants.. Not stock, and lol
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