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So I finally got rid of my iPhone 3G (jailbroken on T-Mobile), and got an HD2 instead. I've always liked Windows Mobile phones (and had most iterations), and since now there is finally some capacitative goodness on WM, I jumped on the opportunity.
And I'm regretting it already.
I'm hoping that somebody here has some suggestion that my two days of thread searching, and experimenting didn't cover.
The problem is, yay, .... the damn battery.
I left it on the charger from totally empty to completely full at 2AM. At 8AM, it was down to 85%. Ten minutes of reading e-mails, 74%. The thing is really not usable in this state.
Here are all the things I checked already:
It runs the latest T-Mobile ROM and radio (the one that just came out a few days ago).
Latest version of .NET (3.5.9).
No push e-mail, e-mail checking once per hour, weather checking once per hour.
Strong 3G coverage area, still tried out WMLongLife anyway (with no difference).
Did several cycles of full discharge, recharge.
Always check task manager, not leaving programs running.
Nothing else is set to go online - Live is disabled.
Screen brightness is set at 30%.
All charges done via wall charger.
I read every post I could find, especially fun the ones where people get 4 days of standby, and 6+ hours of heavy use. Short of loading the ARTEMIS ROM, I exhausted all options I could find. And really, it seems like people get decent performance from the stock ROM, so I'd like to stick with that for the moment.
What am I missing?
So frustrating. I can see how this sort of thing would make the average "just user" go run for the Android or Apple hills. No wonder we get stuck with restrictive babysitting technology, when others can't get their **** together. Spend $450 on a phone that can't make it through a half day of reasonable use? Argh!!
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
same here
i have all the same problems my batt just sucks i figure i have to just by a new one
hey man, i was like you at first too. all my mates had iphones (i dislike apple in general) i didnt want one. At the time o2 (uk) didnt stock android phones and i had a sony x1 previously. So, i got the hd2 and...like you said was disapointed.
Changed the rom to a custom one here at xda (hdowners btw) which lasts 1.5 days (heavy usage)...never seems to get 2 full days when i use it alot.
installed a few different browsers (opera 9.7 and 10)
installed morphgear (with some amazing landscape skins)
fpsece (i found time crisis to be the only actual playable game)
coreplayer
and found it a awesome phone...changed my views on it. Try some custom roms and see what you think...usually you will go mad installing themes, skins, apps...just go wild and keep the ones you really like/work in a seperate folder. Then reflash and install the best only...thats how i done it and i now love this phone
good luck, im sure the rest of the forum will give you some advice.
wayandrs: The main thing that will help is by upgrading the ROM even if it is to stock 1.66 (the latest UK one available) then you notice a large difference and even more so with some of the cooked ones. Other things to note are the WiFi, make sure it doesn't be left on (and only turn it on if you need it) it proper drains the battery. Without knowing your habbits with your phone it is very hard to come up with decent suggestions that hasn't already been posted elsewhere.
I can safely say I get 2-3 days use out of my device but then I don't use it all that much (anymore), don't forget as it is a new toy for you, you will keep playing with it seeing what it can do, this will soon die down (as it always does) then it will be better.
there must be something wrong with your device or battery.
mine lasts for about 3-4 days while middle use. i think for such a powerful and huge device, this is more than respectable.
heavy use...mh...i would say it lasts minimal 2 days, sometimes more.
did you write a complain to t-mobile?
DN41
The battery will improve after a week or so .
Note : charging your battery the first time for only 6hours isn't much , the first time that i charged my battery i left it charging for 24 hours.
Updating to the latest ROM and Radio helps .
I have two suggestions:
1) Take your phone back to where you bought it and let them deal with it. I get at least a full day with heavy use which is to be expected from a high end device with a 4.3 inch screen. I spent a few dollars on a car charger and an extra wall charger for work, sorted.
2) If you want help on these forums leave out the useless complaining about what a rotten device you have. I think I speak for many contributors of this forum when I say that these kind of posts are getting old and wearisome. You will be more likely to get polite replies with inteligent suggestions if you simply state the problem without moaning about the horrible mistake you made in being seduced into buying an HD2. I have purchased phones that I simply did not care for. I returned them.
First step: Flash a decent ROM with most of the performance/battery tricks in there already. Many of these ROMs are constructed from the best (often most battery efficient) parts of multiple ROMS.
Touch-X, Energy, Artemis, CleanEx, etc. All are excellent (though I favour Touch-X myself for a great utility/preformance/battery balance).
Second step: Flash a good Radio that works well in your area but also works well with the ROM/has decent battery life. You'll need to research this for your chosen ROM.
I use the Korean radio in UK. Good quality/signal/battery life.
Run it for a few days, charging to full and emptying the battery before recharging to full again. Do this for 3/4 days at least.
Those changes alone got me upto 2.5 days standby and 4 hours usage (thats movie playing for 4 hours with 100% backlight in a hotel room). Good for a smartphone and longer than my friends IPhones.
Other small programs like WMLongLife, adjusting down the backlight automatically, added another .5 days to standby (though not much to active use life).
ribcage said:
I have two suggestions:
1) Take your phone back to where you bought it and let them deal with it. I get at least a full day with heavy use which is to be expected from a high end device with a 4.3 inch screen. I spent a few dollars on a car charger and an extra wall charger for work, sorted.
2) If you want help on these forums leave out the useless complaining about what a rotten device you have. I think I speak for many contributors of this forum when I say that these kind of posts are getting old and wearisome. You will be more likely to get polite replies with inteligent suggestions if you simply state the problem without moaning about the horrible mistake you made in being seduced into buying an HD2. I have purchased phones that I simply did not care for. I returned them.
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Yes, sorry I fell back on the usual retoric.
I do wonder though if when someone buys a new 'Toy' that they dont hammer it to start with for the 'joy' and never think of the consequences.
I like you, no matter which phone I own, being a businessman and needing maximum performance have a charger at my bedside (the phone is my alarm) and also connect it to the car charger when driving.
I wonder if many of the people that move up from a basic Nokia phone (or similar that can last a week) realise what is involved in powering all the functions they require?
Please don't quote iPhone as it dunt do half!
try elegencia rom v 8.5 and reply back
I use the stock rom 1.66 from the beginning and check my mail automatically every 30 minutes. Now and then I check some websites and download cabs and use HSDPA/3G and WIFI if available. My battery is 100% in the morning and 70 percent in the evening. Not bad at all. The first 12 times I fully charched the battery during the night.
I use Bandswitch, which automatically disables my connection within 30 seconds. This is the most important and useful tip! You don't need a custom ROM to solve the battery drain issue.
tarekkkkk said:
try elegencia rom v 8.5 and reply back
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+1 - Lovely ROM
it looks like you have not a windows phone before
Thanks.
Thanks for the ROM suggestions. I'll try a few more days of deep cycling the battery to see if that helps - if not, I guess I'll try a custom ROM.
And yea, to those 'get a life' and 'don't complain about Windows phones' posts, whatever. I've owned Windows Mobile phones since they first came out, and it's just frustrating that the out-of-the box usability hasn't gotten any better to this day. Looks at the cool people that actually manage some constructive feedback - they are who make XDA forums great. Thanks guys!
A new 1200 battery is 15 pounds (the official from HTC) as a backup. I personaly have bought the extended battery 2400 and it is great. The default battery doesn't last the full day for me because I use it constinuosly as mp3 player , brownsing and video player. I mean, you have options.
ROM
I'll be trying the Elegancia ROM.
That is, once I find a ROM with 2.8 SPL that works on my 1024 version of the H2, to reflash mine so I can get HSPL to work to flash.
I've always really liked Windows Mobile for its flexibility and massive base of developers ... on the flip side, I've been screwing around with this thing for several days now, trying to get a phone that can last through a day. Ahhh, the bittersweet experience that is WM.
I get at most 2 days combined cycle out of my stanard battery and i've had my phone for about 10 days. It came with the stock 1.66 rom but i've run through the tips and tweaks threads so the phone ui is faster and a bit more usable. One of those is a replacement task manager that disables smart minimize in favour of actually closing programs. I've also set the weather software to update every 3 hours because tbh you don't need it to be any more often than that. I do use the wifi alot but i do turn it off when i'm not using the phone. i have also noticed with my phone is if the wifi is connected to an access point for more than 5 minutes it will automatically disable the 3G connection and turn it back on when the wifi is disabled.
for the first couple of days i was completely discharging the battery and then charging it for about 12 hours. this seems to have been the most beneficial. i also will not put it on charge unless it really needs it.
hi, from experience, 3G medium usuage.. 4/5 a day.
If you disconect the 3G connection when not using, it will help.
And of course if you go on GSM instead, one day is not difficult..
battery killer :
1) constant 3G activity
2) Watching video. Worst, video on 3G !
3) games, especially the 3Ds ones or high on processing like the Tower simulation game.
4) bright screen
5) bluetooth
From my experience, from a fresh flash, my battery improves as I get to use it longer and longer.
take a look at your data sync like weather and stock and also check the social networking sync.
Howdy!
I happen to be the proud owner of an USDM HD2 and also a proud member of such a great community wow GO XDA! anyways its been about a week since I got the device as I upgraded from my trusty Dash 3G aka Snap. Well I have done about 15 full battery charge/discharge cycles and I still dont seem to be achieving maximum battery performance. I leave home everyday and ride the train to work for about 25 minutes in that time all I do is listen to music while the phone has data connection turned off and by the time i get to work my battery percentage has dropped by about 15% what the hell! So fa r i have not been able to go about my very simple day withouth the phone dying on me... so its my battery bad or do i still have more cycles to run tru?
Another quick issue is that my phone absolutly pauses when i get a text message: nothing scrolls, music pauses, keyboard freezes and all for about a second!
Ideas? Thoughts? Please let me know and happy Tuesday to all.
there are loads of threads about battery, and i'm not gonna start talking about the myriad potential culprits, but i just wanted to say regarding the charge discharge cycling to get max battery performance......... that was for nickel metal halide batteries,, these lithium ion batteries don't require it. that being said, the circuits that monitor battery level do need a cycle or two for accuracy.
When I first got the phone, it practically never functioned properly. Like you said, glitches/lags everywhere, especially from texting, the music player, the keyboard, etc. Couldn't really find a "fix" and was frustrated for a while...
Then I flashed the Energy ROM and... voila! Everything was silky smooth like how it should've been in the first place.
Not sure if flashing the ROM is a feasible solution for you, but it was able to solve (almost) all of the problems I had.
I might suggest doing a hard-reset on just the stock ROM, that's been known to clear up a wide range of odd behavior
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When I first got the phone, it practically never functioned properly. Like you said, glitches/lags everywhere, especially from texting, the music player, the keyboard, etc. Couldn't really find a "fix" and was frustrated for a while...
Then I flashed the Energy ROM and... voila! Everything was silky smooth like how it should've been in the first place.
Not sure if flashing the ROM is a feasible solution for you, but it was able to solve (almost) all of the problems I had.
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Energy ftw
well... there you have it.
we all have our X10's and are happy with them (for the most part)... yet we suffer the horrible battery drain issue ... and while some have managed to squeeze an hour or two more out of the battery SE has taken the time -- mind you -- not to release an update that could make a difference but to make a video telling us what we already know:
i present to you.
Extend the battery time on your Xperia™ X10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL7zj-Wv74Q&feature=channel
from the SE channel on YouTube.
and after watching this video i realized the only way to save battery life is to simply ... "Turn the phone off".
-Note: I hate SE if it weren't for their nicely aesthetic phone. Even my SAMSUNG galaxy has better battery life and i keep WiFi on ALL DAY.
cylent said:
well... there you have it.
we all have our X10's and are happy with them (for the most part)... yet we suffer the horrible battery drain issue ... and while some have managed to squeeze an hour or two more out of the battery SE has taken the time -- mind you -- not to release an update that could make a difference but to make a video telling us what we already know:
i present to you.
Extend the battery time on your Xperia™ X10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL7zj-Wv74Q&feature=channel
from the SE channel on YouTube.
and after watching this video i realized the only way to save battery life is to simply ... "Turn the phone off".
-Note: I hate SE if it weren't for their nicely aesthetic phone. Even my SAMSUNG galaxy has better battery life and i keep WiFi on ALL DAY.
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What's your point from this Thread??
This video was produced while the X10 was running 1.6 OS and many were complaining about the battery life at the time
you're linking a three months old video to tell us..... what????
Everyone knows by now that the 2.1 update made the X10's battery better and lasts longer now, even longer than your Samsung Galaxy S
MJ_QaT said:
What's your point from this Thread??
This video was produced while the X10 was running 1.6 OS and many were complaining about the battery life at the time
you're linking a three months old video to tell us..... what????
Everyone knows by now that the 2.1 update made the X10's battery better and lasts longer now, even longer than your Samsung Galaxy S
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fine. 3 months old ... so what?.. i thought it was funny. i just bought my phone (AGAIN) after the first time i bought it when it had 1.6. and now i have the x10i with 2.1 (and dualbooting into 2.2).
and NO... your facts are very wrong. the galaxyS battery lasts MUCH MUCH longer. i have both devices in my pocket. my intentions were to hand the galaxyS to the wife and keep the SE/X10 ... side by side the galaxyS (sad to say) is much faster, better battery and yet still. i have installed froyo 2.2 and am dual booting on the X10. guess what? 2.2 while still alpha is faster/better and just better to use.
this goes to show what? SE just loads the phone with crap software that hinders the phone and makes it look bad.
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fine. 3 months old ... so what?.. i thought it was funny. i just bought my phone (AGAIN) after the first time i bought it when it had 1.6. and now i have the x10i with 2.1 (and dualbooting into 2.2).
and NO... your facts are very wrong. the galaxyS battery lasts MUCH MUCH longer. i have both devices in my pocket. my intentions were to hand the galaxyS to the wife and keep the SE/X10 ... side by side the galaxyS (sad to say) is much faster, better battery and yet still. i have installed froyo 2.2 and am dual booting on the X10. guess what? 2.2 while still alpha is faster/better and just better to use.
this goes to show what? SE just loads the phone with crap software that hinders the phone and makes it look bad.
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Good to hear your Galaxy lasts more than your X10, but that's YOUR device. Many here have their X10 going for two days and more with constant usage.
Bottom of line is: there is no right or wrong here so don't take personal...
Honestly, opening a thread to post something old and useless just to have fun is a waste of time
Don't take it hard mate just my opinion.
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Thanks for the response.
I am still diving in the X10 forums and as you know there are 3 important sections each having threads that last go beyond 30 pages. The search function doesn't help sometimes.
I personally believe my stock rom maybe the issue. still hunting for a good custom 2.1 rom thats somewhat customized.
if you can point out some tips / links to how i can achieve this "2 day" mark you talk about i would be grateful.
Thanks!
If you went to developers section you can find a topic named "2.1 optimizer V002" by jerpelea
Or something like that it's on the first page of the section so you don't have to search for it
Basically it cleans all unnecessary apps and installs JIT to increase the performance as well
I can't link it as I'm using my phone so my apology to that
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MJ_QaT said:
If you went to developers section you can find a topic named "2.1 optimizer V002" by jerpelea
Or something like that it's on the first page of the section so you don't have to search for it
Basically it cleans all unnecessary apps and installs JIT to increase the performance as well
I can't link it as I'm using my phone so my apology to that
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i've done the optimizer cleanup and jit. (steps 1 and 2). there were other stuff like TEST scripts but i skipped those.
Any other tips?
Try using normal wallpaper instead of live wallpaper, use wifi at home, install juice plotter and enable the widget to let you know the battery's estimated hours left
Un-install timescape since it uses a lot of process.
Oh and do not us auto killers as they kill your battery very fast
Un-install it if you still have it or at least disable the auto kill ( I rarely, almost never kill any app , unless uni suspect that it uses a lot of process )
Last but not least use your phone for more than three days as with each day you'll notice improved battery life, since android takes a bit time to adjust itself.
And that'd what I've done, so far I can take it up to 22 hours of constant usage, three hours of music, one hour playing games, twk hours browsing, email push, whatsapp and gtalk running non-stop. 3g always enabled with half an hour talking and over 100 sms.
If using my phone lightly it goes to 44 hours with 20% left
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after reading your post I uninstalled Timescape to test the battery life, I just could had like 16 hours per day with wifi on 50% of the time.
Let's test this
ellokomen said:
after reading your post I uninstalled Timescape to test the battery life, I just could had like 16 hours per day with wifi on 50% of the time.
Let's test this
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what did you use to uninstall timescape?
ellokomen said:
after reading your post I uninstalled Timescape to test the battery life, I just could had like 16 hours per day with wifi on 50% of the time.
Let's test this
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make sure to uninstall timescape and all its components ( Timescape Theme blue, Timescape Provider ..... etc )
back it up in case you need it back
what did you use to uninstall timescape?
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use Titanium Backup, you have to have root
after rooting, i got serious battery issue. i left the phone idle yesterday evening with the battery at 99%, this morning the battery level dropped to 85. when using the phone, the juice is going away rapidly. i have use titanium to freeze some apps in order to extend the battery life but it didnt help at all and even went the oppisite direction.
may i have your advise?
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piercewei said:
after rooting, i got serious battery issue. i left the phone idle yesterday evening with the battery at 99%, this morning the battery level dropped to 85. when using the phone, the juice is going away rapidly. i have use titanium to freeze some apps in order to extend the battery life but it didnt help at all and even went the oppisite direction.
may i have your advise?
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I haven't tried freezing the apps like timescape.. etc but as I understood from other members who tried freezing it did not help them too much
try backing up the apps you don't want and then un-install them.. However, one of the major battery drainers is timescape, but as I mentioned before you have to Freeze/Un-install it and all of its components...
I'll keep it simple here:
backup applications first
Uninstall/Freeze:
- Timescape Theme Sakura 1.0
- Timescape Theme Orange 1.0
- Timescape Theme Indiago 1.0
- Timescape Theme Green 1.0
- Timescape Theme Blue 1.0
- Timescape Provider 1.0
- Timescape Plug in Manager 1.0
- Timescape 1.0.0
- Creatouch 3.0.4
- Any other unnecessary applications that you don't use
Install:
- JIT ( Just-In-Time ) to make your device faster and less power consuming
- Juice plotter ( and add the widget to your screen to get more information on how long will your battery last )
DO NOT USE:
- Auto Task Killer ( it really drains a lot of your battery )
- JuiceDefender
- Any other battery saver applications
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you can of course use Task managers to kill any application that you think it uses a lot of processor, otherwise leave your ram uses whatever it needs. ( don't aim for more ram space because it's useless, this is not Windows )
if you did all that then you should be fine.... I know because I did all that and while I'm writing this post I'm listening to music using my X10 (Wifi on, Bluetooth connected to LiveView) for 4 hours now ( Un-plugged it at 100% ) and now it's at 83%
i had done most of your advises already including freezing ts and some other apps. i never use task killers. juice defender had been uninstalled as i found it wasnt useful to save juice. something i havent done is the installation of jit. will it be a key to improve the battery performance? where can i download it as it doesnt exist in the market.
my phone is fast and laggyless without rooting. the major perpose of rooting is to extend the battery life. i thought it would be helpful because the uninstallation or freezing the useless apps became possible. to my dissapointed, till now, i havent had the pleasure to enjoy the benefit.
a lot of x10 users repoered the better battery use after updating from 1.6-2.1, but mine and my wife's suffered the negative effect. now rooting the phone made it even worse.
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Actually, without 3G on for me. I have WIFI on most of the time and my battery doesn't drain.
I tried an expirement and for 3 days without charge my X10 was on 50 charge
Thats 24 x 3= 72 hours
Thank you very much.
piercewei said:
i had done most of your advises already including freezing ts and some other apps. i never use task killers. juice defender had been uninstalled as i found it wasnt useful to save juice. something i havent done is the installation of jit. will it be a key to improve the battery performance? where can i download it as it doesnt exist in the market.
my phone is fast and laggyless without rooting. the major perpose of rooting is to extend the battery life. i thought it would be helpful because the uninstallation or freezing the useless apps became possible. to my dissapointed, till now, i havent had the pleasure to enjoy the benefit.
a lot of x10 users repoered the better battery use after updating from 1.6-2.1, but mine and my wife's suffered the negative effect. now rooting the phone made it even worse.
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JIT is not available in the market, I can't post a link as I'm out now so I'm using my phone to reply...
You'll find it in Developers section under a thread called "Android optimizer...." just skip all the steps and use the JIT part...
Will post you the link when I'm home
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EDIT: You can access this link for JIT and other customization, I have used it ( Just JIT ), but you can do whatever you desire..
And yes JIT boosts the battery performance
2.1 Customizer v0.99.1
Or
Android 2.1 OPTIMISER V002
zm4 said:
Actually, without 3G on for me. I have WIFI on most of the time and my battery doesn't drain.
I tried an expirement and for 3 days without charge my X10 was on 50 charge
Thats 24 x 3= 72 hours
Thank you very much.
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Wifi uses less power than 3G hence the better result in terms of battery life ;-)
But still 3 days and still 50% is amazing
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I think a good way is to use adsfree android app, task killer
and disable all apps auto updates
alankstiyo said:
I think a good way is to use adsfree android app, task killer
and disable all apps auto updates
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I'm sure you'll find many disagree with you on this here
Badly programmed widgets or apps are the usual causes of battery drain. Have you got anything that might be preventing your phone from sleeping.. Eg.seems to be a bug on handscent which absolutely
knackers the battery if you leave a message un read..
I've switched back to stock sms for the moment because of it.
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I really wanted to get a Droid Pro, the device to me seemed perfect the way it was out of the box.
I currently have an Xperia X1, nice device but I had to run a custom ROM to get the experience I wanted. And I didnt find the right one until a few months ago (2 years searching...). And even the ROM I'm using isnt 100% reliable.
Now I'm looking around these boards and I see people looking for upgrades. Is the original experience that bad? is it slow? Does it crash? Etc. I'd like to know because if I get this device then I'll want to use the official upgrade but nothing else.
I guess it depends on what you are used to.
For me it seems that overall the use is fine. Especially since I froze a few unneeded apps.
But the battery life is horrendous. Ill eventually buy an extended battery because I hear good things about it but stock is horrible.
As for the pro itself, I can't complain really. But this is my first droid so I have nothing to compare to.
I had simply hoped I could customize a bit more.
In general I am not noticing any unresponsiveness since I froze some apps, added apps to the auto end list and started using a cache cleaner.
My only complaint is the battery, but that complaint is a big one.
In battery saver mode, using hardly any apps and making 15 minutes worth of calls lasts me 10 hours max.
Standby time of 13 days my @$$...
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dutchbastard said:
I guess it depends on what you are used to.
For me it seems that overall the use is fine. Especially since I froze a few unneeded apps.
But the battery life is horrendous. Ill eventually buy an extended battery because I hear good things about it but stock is horrible.
As for the pro itself, I can't complain really. But this is my first droid so I have nothing to compare to.
I had simply hoped I could customize a bit more.
In general I am not noticing any unresponsiveness since I froze some apps, added apps to the auto end list and started using a cache cleaner.
My only complaint is the battery, but that complaint is a big one.
In battery saver mode, using hardly any apps and making 15 minutes worth of calls lasts me 10 hours max.
Standby time of 13 days my @$$...
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What about your data connection, is it on all the time? I can't imagine a new device having a worse battery then my 2 year old Xperia (which doesn't even have the greatest battery in the world, and it has a higher res screen as well).
But apart from the battery life your happy with the default device? Calling, text messaging, browsing, it's all snappy?
Battery life would be my only complaint as well, too. Other than that, I love the thing. Even without any customization, it was fast.
I do wish developers would pay more attention to it, but everybody wants the teeny bopper phones these days, so I can't blame them for favoring that crowd.
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What about your data connection, is it on all the time? I can't imagine a new device having a worse battery then my 2 year old Xperia (which doesn't even have the greatest battery in the world, and it has a higher res screen as well).
But apart from the battery life your happy with the default device? Calling, text messaging, browsing, it's all snappy?
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Yeah 3G is always running, though in maximum battery saver mode it should shut down any data reception 15 minutes after the screen blacks out.
Come to think of it, perhaps it doesn't and this is my issue...hmm...
I have to hand it to Motorola though, 2 weeks after I got the Pro I chatted with their support to check for a solution, and they were kind enough to send me a battery free of charge. Stock battery, but still, I now have an extra battery in case I need it.
Anyway, yeah everything is snappy. I am not dropping calls, browsing is excellent (I use Dolphin HD for the tabs and addons) and text-ing works great.
I use Handcent for txt so I could set a different tone for some of my contacts.
I did have an issue with losing phone numbers, but I'm not sure what the cause is of that. Perhaps it's something I did myself.
But When I got the phone I connected to my old phone through bluetooth to get all my contacts, I then connected and synced to facebook so all contacts were linked to FB as well.
Somewhere along the line after wards I lost all my phone numbers and all I had left was the info from my FB friends.
Like I said I don't know what caused it and so I'm not sure if I can prevent it from happening again.
This may be something for you to look out for.
You know, it would seem I'm not that happy with my Pro, but that couldn't be further from the truth.
For one, I love Droid and everything that comes with it. Apps, widgets, games, browsing, everything.
Two, I got my pro for free since I went through Target.
Three, every phone has it's flaws. I can not imagine anyone not having at least 1 rather big complaint about their phone.
They simply take it as it is because they know it is not really a big deal in the long run.
I really wanted the Droid 2, but it was expensive for me. But I have no doubt that I would have a complaint about that phone as well.
So yeah, I am happy with my Pro.
I know every phone has its issues. But freezes and lots of slow downs are issues too great to have, in those cases I rather have another, more reliable, phone (I know they are out there, like my old Motorola KRZR).
Naturally smartphones are more complex then regular phones so more issues are to be expected but the problems I've had with the Xperia are some I don't want to repeat. Important phone calls that were cut when the phone freezed and text messages that took forever to sent because the phone had another slow down.
Seems the Droid pro is better then that, otherwise you couldn't be THAT happy with it. I'll have to look for a good importer though, I live in Europe. Netherlands to be precise, so being helped by a dutchbastard is always nice
Oh but I live in new York so I am of little help to you.
But yeah you are right. Problems like freezes are not the type of issue one can live with.
At first when I got my pro I got app after app and about a week in I had issues with slow desktop scrolling.
Then as I said I froze some apps and added all the non important ones to the auto end list and haven't had a problem since.
Do keep in mind that I've only had my phone for about 6 weeks now.
But I like it a lot. Initially I wanted the droid 2, but couldn't afford it.
At this point I think the only thing the druid 2 can offer me is a better keyboard layout wise.
But this thing does everything I wanted and more.
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I have a Droid Pro and I LOVE it. It's completely turned me on to the Android world.
I'll second the extended battery. I had trouble making it through a day on the stock battery, with extended I'm usually at about 30-40% by the end of the day.
I actually prefer to use the Droid Pro stock. Obviously there are advantages to to rooting. My main reason for rooting my inc, fascinate, D2, any phone I had really were the roms, wifi tether, etc. The advantages obviously outweigh the disadvantages but developers obviously aren't working with the Pro a ton so I havent needed the wifi tether, you can delete the bloatware and I did with my X and my D2 but I like using the Pro stock. It runs fine, Really, just my opinion.
justin344 said:
I'll second the extended battery. I had trouble making it through a day on the stock battery, with extended I'm usually at about 30-40% by the end of the day.
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hi mate,
Hope you are right ... with stock battery cant last more than 6/7 hrs...with screen to autobr., killing all apps after screen out, nothing running appart from sync services for my mails,weather,facebook and twiter....nothing else, no calls, no msgs,no inet, no music , ...nothing and with that last only6/7 hrs......
so I really hope that extended battery that I ordered will fix my problem,,, I am happy to charge the device every night as long as it last trough the day and days are long- 15/16 hrs...
if leave this aside I love the device even the stock software is not to bad...
just really hope that the extended battery will make it happen ....if not ... I will sell it...((
Hi guys i know there are lots of similar posts about battery life etc but cant find the answer im looking for after a search of this forum as all answers seem to be on rooted devices, she does not want her x8 rooted and im really getting it in the neck for upgrading her in the first place lol.
My girlfriend recently got the 2.1-update 1 via pc companion and thats when the battery problems started. The battery drain problem has actually been getting progressively worse since this. This morning (after yet another full night charging 100%) after 30 mins of getting up today the battery was down to 83 %. I have already uninstalled maps updates, not that she ever used it anyway.
So my question is : is there a solution to this without rooting and/or having a custom ROM? becuase she making my life a misery lol.
Thanks in advance guys and sorry for the similar post
swifteh said:
Hi guys i know there are lots of similar posts about battery life etc but cant find the answer im looking for after a search of this forum as all answers seem to be on rooted devices, she does not want her x8 rooted and im really getting it in the neck for upgrading her in the first place lol.
My girlfriend recently got the 2.1-update 1 via pc companion and thats when the battery problems started. The battery drain problem has actually been getting progressively worse since this. This morning (after yet another full night charging 100%) after 30 mins of getting up today the battery was down to 83 %. I have already uninstalled maps updates, not that she ever used it anyway.
So my question is : is there a solution to this without rooting and/or having a custom ROM? becuase she making my life a misery lol.
Thanks in advance guys and sorry for the similar post
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Well, 1st thing as Dx said. reboot after using wifi, 3g, music. reboot to make everything fresh.. but there's no other way to save battery without rooting I think. because I helped my gf installed a custom ROM for her and she said that the battery life changed, and it's way different than a original ROM. How come she doesn't wanna go custom? Sorry for my bad english.
Right tweaks only applies in rooted phone
deedii said:
Right tweaks only applies in rooted phone
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Agree with you!
Nah, rooting makes the difference. IMO Froyo ROMs have good battery life.
Well i think she might well have to go custom because the battery life is a joke now, nearly rendering her device unusable, think she just frightened cos i did her pc companion update and kinda blames me for the crap battery now, il have a read around the x8 forum on how to root.
Thanks everyone, apreciate it
Just try to keep off all things you don't need: Wifi, Bluetooth, Synchronization, 3G. also unninstall apps you don't need and do not use app killers to save RAM.
I think that is all you can do without rooting.
patriciocs said:
Just try to keep off all things you don't need: Wifi, Bluetooth, Synchronization, 3G. also unninstall apps you don't need and do not use app killers to save RAM.
I think that is all you can do without rooting.
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My friend, less RAM is actually a good thing. I've read through the web. just don't auto kill ALL the apps, kill those apps that when it doesn't look right or freezes. The more RAM you freed, the more battery it will drain. Serious.
swifteh said:
Well i think she might well have to go custom because the battery life is a joke now, nearly rendering her device unusable, think she just frightened cos i did her pc companion update and kinda blames me for the crap battery now, il have a read around the x8 forum on how to root.
Thanks everyone, apreciate it
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Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139163
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153768
Read this for the task killer.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/02/revisiting-android-task-killers-and-why-you-dont-need-one/
For rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046605
and custom ROMS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=849
Hope this helps!
I'm just a noob trying to help.
use a task killer and disable all what you don't need like bluetooth, data traffic, gps and wifi. yes i know my english is bad^^
disable wifi, gps, bluetooth and data traffic. stock 2.1update rom should get you about 3 days with those disabled. any apps that need them will ask you to switch them on again anyway. It's a little annoying to get used to at first especially when you're used to a fone that lasts a week without charge so I can understand how she feels especially if she only wants to text and do a few calls.
If you don't use wifi, 3g gps and rest of the s**t you should probbably buy a dumy phone.
With some "normal" usage you can be happy if it lasts for a day/day and a half.
2-3 is really success.
You do get a charger in the box with the phone you know?
Use your phone, stop wasting time on battery monitoring.
zvorkapic.os said:
You do get a charger in the box with the phone you know?
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yeah but the idea is it's a MOBILE fone.. You dont want it plugged into the damn socket all the time!
If you need to use the GPS, WIFI etc. the app will ask you to switch it on so wheres the harm in turning it all off until it's required if it saves having to plug the thing in every day?!?
Nobody stated you should keep all the functions on.
But it should be understandable that, with some "normal" use, and by normal I mean regular texting, phonecalls, check facebook/twitter, refresh weather app, read mail and some news maybe you can't expect your battery to last 7 days like on dummy nokia.
Besides, you all forget that your biggest battery killer is the screen.
And another thing I noticed; when LED starts to glow green, your battery isn't fully charged. Check phone status. It becomes green after passing 90% I think, or so.
And the second thing I noticed is a HUGE differenc when charging the phone while it's on, for a hour and a half when the battery metter reaches 100% and when I turn it off and leave it charging over night.
The "night" option proved to be a lot better (battery lasts longer, doesn't fall so fast) + Every once in a while it is good to fully discharge the battery and then fully charge it.
terracuk said:
yeah but the idea is it's a MOBILE fone..
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Yeah, but that mobile phones have long since ceased to be just phones.
Switch off everything you can : wifi, brighteness, gps etc. Also you can make a profile "screen off " in setcpu and set it to 122mhz . it will save you a lot of battery! It drains just 1% after 5 hours ( but i didnt use my phone) . Hope it help.
Oh yeah and use the app called " fast reboot " it is so good is well and it speed up our lovely x8
When i used these things , my phone lasts in a week or more of.course i nearly didnt use my phone.
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Seeing as I don't have enough posts to post over in the development forum, I thought I'd hijack this thread.
I installed this rom last week and at first, the batter was brilliant. It lasted for three days but now I have to charge it twice a day. I have bluetooth off, wifi off more often than not, brightness down very low.
The phone was 5hrs on battery and was down to 44%.
Cell Standby: 35%
Display: 20%
Phone Idle: 19%
Launcher Pro: 13%
Anyone have any ideas?
I also experienced the same problem ... especially with the overclocked conditions