well... there you have it.
we all have our X10's and are happy with them (for the most part)... yet we suffer the horrible battery drain issue ... and while some have managed to squeeze an hour or two more out of the battery SE has taken the time -- mind you -- not to release an update that could make a difference but to make a video telling us what we already know:
i present to you.
Extend the battery time on your Xperia™ X10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL7zj-Wv74Q&feature=channel
from the SE channel on YouTube.
and after watching this video i realized the only way to save battery life is to simply ... "Turn the phone off".
-Note: I hate SE if it weren't for their nicely aesthetic phone. Even my SAMSUNG galaxy has better battery life and i keep WiFi on ALL DAY.
cylent said:
well... there you have it.
we all have our X10's and are happy with them (for the most part)... yet we suffer the horrible battery drain issue ... and while some have managed to squeeze an hour or two more out of the battery SE has taken the time -- mind you -- not to release an update that could make a difference but to make a video telling us what we already know:
i present to you.
Extend the battery time on your Xperia™ X10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL7zj-Wv74Q&feature=channel
from the SE channel on YouTube.
and after watching this video i realized the only way to save battery life is to simply ... "Turn the phone off".
-Note: I hate SE if it weren't for their nicely aesthetic phone. Even my SAMSUNG galaxy has better battery life and i keep WiFi on ALL DAY.
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What's your point from this Thread??
This video was produced while the X10 was running 1.6 OS and many were complaining about the battery life at the time
you're linking a three months old video to tell us..... what????
Everyone knows by now that the 2.1 update made the X10's battery better and lasts longer now, even longer than your Samsung Galaxy S
MJ_QaT said:
What's your point from this Thread??
This video was produced while the X10 was running 1.6 OS and many were complaining about the battery life at the time
you're linking a three months old video to tell us..... what????
Everyone knows by now that the 2.1 update made the X10's battery better and lasts longer now, even longer than your Samsung Galaxy S
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fine. 3 months old ... so what?.. i thought it was funny. i just bought my phone (AGAIN) after the first time i bought it when it had 1.6. and now i have the x10i with 2.1 (and dualbooting into 2.2).
and NO... your facts are very wrong. the galaxyS battery lasts MUCH MUCH longer. i have both devices in my pocket. my intentions were to hand the galaxyS to the wife and keep the SE/X10 ... side by side the galaxyS (sad to say) is much faster, better battery and yet still. i have installed froyo 2.2 and am dual booting on the X10. guess what? 2.2 while still alpha is faster/better and just better to use.
this goes to show what? SE just loads the phone with crap software that hinders the phone and makes it look bad.
cylent said:
fine. 3 months old ... so what?.. i thought it was funny. i just bought my phone (AGAIN) after the first time i bought it when it had 1.6. and now i have the x10i with 2.1 (and dualbooting into 2.2).
and NO... your facts are very wrong. the galaxyS battery lasts MUCH MUCH longer. i have both devices in my pocket. my intentions were to hand the galaxyS to the wife and keep the SE/X10 ... side by side the galaxyS (sad to say) is much faster, better battery and yet still. i have installed froyo 2.2 and am dual booting on the X10. guess what? 2.2 while still alpha is faster/better and just better to use.
this goes to show what? SE just loads the phone with crap software that hinders the phone and makes it look bad.
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Good to hear your Galaxy lasts more than your X10, but that's YOUR device. Many here have their X10 going for two days and more with constant usage.
Bottom of line is: there is no right or wrong here so don't take personal...
Honestly, opening a thread to post something old and useless just to have fun is a waste of time
Don't take it hard mate just my opinion.
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Thanks for the response.
I am still diving in the X10 forums and as you know there are 3 important sections each having threads that last go beyond 30 pages. The search function doesn't help sometimes.
I personally believe my stock rom maybe the issue. still hunting for a good custom 2.1 rom thats somewhat customized.
if you can point out some tips / links to how i can achieve this "2 day" mark you talk about i would be grateful.
Thanks!
If you went to developers section you can find a topic named "2.1 optimizer V002" by jerpelea
Or something like that it's on the first page of the section so you don't have to search for it
Basically it cleans all unnecessary apps and installs JIT to increase the performance as well
I can't link it as I'm using my phone so my apology to that
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MJ_QaT said:
If you went to developers section you can find a topic named "2.1 optimizer V002" by jerpelea
Or something like that it's on the first page of the section so you don't have to search for it
Basically it cleans all unnecessary apps and installs JIT to increase the performance as well
I can't link it as I'm using my phone so my apology to that
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i've done the optimizer cleanup and jit. (steps 1 and 2). there were other stuff like TEST scripts but i skipped those.
Any other tips?
Try using normal wallpaper instead of live wallpaper, use wifi at home, install juice plotter and enable the widget to let you know the battery's estimated hours left
Un-install timescape since it uses a lot of process.
Oh and do not us auto killers as they kill your battery very fast
Un-install it if you still have it or at least disable the auto kill ( I rarely, almost never kill any app , unless uni suspect that it uses a lot of process )
Last but not least use your phone for more than three days as with each day you'll notice improved battery life, since android takes a bit time to adjust itself.
And that'd what I've done, so far I can take it up to 22 hours of constant usage, three hours of music, one hour playing games, twk hours browsing, email push, whatsapp and gtalk running non-stop. 3g always enabled with half an hour talking and over 100 sms.
If using my phone lightly it goes to 44 hours with 20% left
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after reading your post I uninstalled Timescape to test the battery life, I just could had like 16 hours per day with wifi on 50% of the time.
Let's test this
ellokomen said:
after reading your post I uninstalled Timescape to test the battery life, I just could had like 16 hours per day with wifi on 50% of the time.
Let's test this
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what did you use to uninstall timescape?
ellokomen said:
after reading your post I uninstalled Timescape to test the battery life, I just could had like 16 hours per day with wifi on 50% of the time.
Let's test this
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make sure to uninstall timescape and all its components ( Timescape Theme blue, Timescape Provider ..... etc )
back it up in case you need it back
what did you use to uninstall timescape?
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use Titanium Backup, you have to have root
after rooting, i got serious battery issue. i left the phone idle yesterday evening with the battery at 99%, this morning the battery level dropped to 85. when using the phone, the juice is going away rapidly. i have use titanium to freeze some apps in order to extend the battery life but it didnt help at all and even went the oppisite direction.
may i have your advise?
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piercewei said:
after rooting, i got serious battery issue. i left the phone idle yesterday evening with the battery at 99%, this morning the battery level dropped to 85. when using the phone, the juice is going away rapidly. i have use titanium to freeze some apps in order to extend the battery life but it didnt help at all and even went the oppisite direction.
may i have your advise?
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I haven't tried freezing the apps like timescape.. etc but as I understood from other members who tried freezing it did not help them too much
try backing up the apps you don't want and then un-install them.. However, one of the major battery drainers is timescape, but as I mentioned before you have to Freeze/Un-install it and all of its components...
I'll keep it simple here:
backup applications first
Uninstall/Freeze:
- Timescape Theme Sakura 1.0
- Timescape Theme Orange 1.0
- Timescape Theme Indiago 1.0
- Timescape Theme Green 1.0
- Timescape Theme Blue 1.0
- Timescape Provider 1.0
- Timescape Plug in Manager 1.0
- Timescape 1.0.0
- Creatouch 3.0.4
- Any other unnecessary applications that you don't use
Install:
- JIT ( Just-In-Time ) to make your device faster and less power consuming
- Juice plotter ( and add the widget to your screen to get more information on how long will your battery last )
DO NOT USE:
- Auto Task Killer ( it really drains a lot of your battery )
- JuiceDefender
- Any other battery saver applications
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you can of course use Task managers to kill any application that you think it uses a lot of processor, otherwise leave your ram uses whatever it needs. ( don't aim for more ram space because it's useless, this is not Windows )
if you did all that then you should be fine.... I know because I did all that and while I'm writing this post I'm listening to music using my X10 (Wifi on, Bluetooth connected to LiveView) for 4 hours now ( Un-plugged it at 100% ) and now it's at 83%
i had done most of your advises already including freezing ts and some other apps. i never use task killers. juice defender had been uninstalled as i found it wasnt useful to save juice. something i havent done is the installation of jit. will it be a key to improve the battery performance? where can i download it as it doesnt exist in the market.
my phone is fast and laggyless without rooting. the major perpose of rooting is to extend the battery life. i thought it would be helpful because the uninstallation or freezing the useless apps became possible. to my dissapointed, till now, i havent had the pleasure to enjoy the benefit.
a lot of x10 users repoered the better battery use after updating from 1.6-2.1, but mine and my wife's suffered the negative effect. now rooting the phone made it even worse.
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Actually, without 3G on for me. I have WIFI on most of the time and my battery doesn't drain.
I tried an expirement and for 3 days without charge my X10 was on 50 charge
Thats 24 x 3= 72 hours
Thank you very much.
piercewei said:
i had done most of your advises already including freezing ts and some other apps. i never use task killers. juice defender had been uninstalled as i found it wasnt useful to save juice. something i havent done is the installation of jit. will it be a key to improve the battery performance? where can i download it as it doesnt exist in the market.
my phone is fast and laggyless without rooting. the major perpose of rooting is to extend the battery life. i thought it would be helpful because the uninstallation or freezing the useless apps became possible. to my dissapointed, till now, i havent had the pleasure to enjoy the benefit.
a lot of x10 users repoered the better battery use after updating from 1.6-2.1, but mine and my wife's suffered the negative effect. now rooting the phone made it even worse.
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JIT is not available in the market, I can't post a link as I'm out now so I'm using my phone to reply...
You'll find it in Developers section under a thread called "Android optimizer...." just skip all the steps and use the JIT part...
Will post you the link when I'm home
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EDIT: You can access this link for JIT and other customization, I have used it ( Just JIT ), but you can do whatever you desire..
And yes JIT boosts the battery performance
2.1 Customizer v0.99.1
Or
Android 2.1 OPTIMISER V002
zm4 said:
Actually, without 3G on for me. I have WIFI on most of the time and my battery doesn't drain.
I tried an expirement and for 3 days without charge my X10 was on 50 charge
Thats 24 x 3= 72 hours
Thank you very much.
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Wifi uses less power than 3G hence the better result in terms of battery life ;-)
But still 3 days and still 50% is amazing
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I think a good way is to use adsfree android app, task killer
and disable all apps auto updates
alankstiyo said:
I think a good way is to use adsfree android app, task killer
and disable all apps auto updates
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I'm sure you'll find many disagree with you on this here
Badly programmed widgets or apps are the usual causes of battery drain. Have you got anything that might be preventing your phone from sleeping.. Eg.seems to be a bug on handscent which absolutely
knackers the battery if you leave a message un read..
I've switched back to stock sms for the moment because of it.
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Related
I bought my Xperia X10 last August 18 '10. I didn't have the initial charge that is 4 hours because X10 charging have automatic stop when the battery is full.
I charged it in the morning and it run for 24 hours just SMS and phone calls.
Then I try to install Advance Task killer and Helix Launcher. Task killer really makes my battery WORST! Instead of 24 hours life it became almost 12 hours only.. Helix is most probably not working. (I think.)
I uninstalled Advanced Task killer and no difference..
I would like to install Battery Life saver application but I don't know what Launcher fits best. I tried Helix but I think I doesn;t work better for my X10.
I envy other users that there phone last for 2-3 days. I want my phone just like that..
Any suggestions what launcher or application? and where can I download it for free?
Thank you so much XDA DEVELOPERS!
wat firmware version are u on ? i found that it took 15-20 full charges for the battery to really break in...as well dont use task killers, they arent necessary. I used juicedefender for a bit, but didnt really see a difference. another helpful thing you should try is to restart your phone after charging
another app you could try is setcpu, however that requires root
Try adw launcher
Sent from my rooted 026 X10i using swype via Xda
My suggestion is root the phone, use ADW launcher and uninstall any task killer apps like ATK or JD. My X10 lasts 2 days with moderate usage, that includes games and music too. It'll last three if I only use it for texting and calling. Hope this helps
Agreed, ditch the "powersaving" apps, they kill standby time. Also check how synchronisation is set up, constantly waking up to update facebook, twitter, mail et cetera will kill your battery.
Can only agree with the other posts, and just to re-affirm that you need to cycle the battery a good few times to get the best from it and three days is still early days. ADW is a great launcher, you don't need to be rooted if that's out of your comfort zone.
My way is NOT using any task killers or battery savers, leave all that to android! Do 3 full charge/decharge cycles and one every ones in a while. And ofc 2-3h of youtube will drain your battery.
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quite interesting point about task killing app.
I heard in both side while app-killing save a batt and drain a batt.
May be people are in difference behavior. and their using s/w is also difference.
Any specific thread for this?
My first (few) days for x10 is like you, twice or triple charge a day, I even bought spare batt. I decided to root and upgrade to the lastest firmware, clean all startup app, clean all scheduled sync and turn on juicedefender with new home-app. that was big improve from 7-10HR to 20-25HR with moderate use.
You should give a try
Retracted: I misread the post mentioning JuiceDefender as being about ATK. My bad.
I currently only use juice defender, seems to do the trick. Task killers made no difference to me.
Research how android works and you will see task killers are pointless. Just stop things doing automatic updating instead.
Swyped from my rooted X10i using Tapatalk.
zhoustanley said:
wat firmware version are u on ? i found that it took 15-20 full charges for the battery to really break in...as well dont use task killers, they arent necessary. I used juicedefender for a bit, but didnt really see a difference. another helpful thing you should try is to restart your phone after charging
another app you could try is setcpu, however that requires root
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Firmware version 1.6.. I uninstall already Task killer and Helix Launcher, both no help. It makes my battery worst. How many days you used your phone after full charge?
Mobzter said:
Try adw launcher
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I can't find free download.. Did it helps a lot?
junkk29 said:
My suggestion is root the phone, use ADW launcher and uninstall any task killer apps like ATK or JD. My X10 lasts 2 days with moderate usage, that includes games and music too. It'll last three if I only use it for texting and calling. Hope this helps
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How can I root the phone? where can I download ADW Launcher for free? Whew I hope my X10 will be better like yours
i get about 20 hours of fairly heavy usage before charge however i am on build number R2BA020, running helix launcher and setcpu (screen off @ 524mhz scaling on demand)
my approx usage a day:
50 texts
10 emails
hour on phone calls
wifi usually connected
gps off
update interval usually the longest duration
30-45mins of web browsing
@ ddewbofh : Where can I find it? Sorry for the stupid question. I'm starting to learn for now.
@ suzed : I already downloaded ADW Launcher, does it really have automatic task manager? If I use it, it will affect my battery or not?
@ Tjotte : I want battery saver because I can't bring my charger always. I already had 3 cycles of full charge/decharge, still no change.
@ Cebees : How will i root and upgrade the firmware? Can I do it all by myself? Do I have to reformat my X10?
Thanks for the replies! It really helps me a lot. I'm still observing how ADW Launcher works for me. Hope for your comments and suggestions again (sorry for the poor english)
I want to clarify something. Is ADW Launcher a battery saver or just for themes? My friends says it's not a battery saver. I want to know, I'm confused.
chiqamia0122 said:
I want to clarify something. Is ADW Launcher a battery saver or just for themes? My friends says it's not a battery saver. I want to know, I'm confused.
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It's a great launcher with themes, it's not specifically designed to save battery.
Is it okay for my X10 to Full charge/decharge while using ADW Launcer?
chiqamia0122 said:
Is it okay for my X10 to Full charge/decharge while using ADW Launcer?
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Yeah, it's no problem. ADW is a normal app, it works the same way as the standard launcher.
ddewbofh said:
It's a great launcher with themes, it's not specifically designed to save battery.
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but it's also used for battery saving right or no help and just for themes?
I wish i could do a screen shot....but with 8% battery life left and already downloading all the SS programs in the market, it wont be done.
I haven't charged my phone for 1day 15hrs 39mins, and still have 8% battery life.
Using nothing more than the built-in Task manager (aka performancemanager.apk) i have been testing my phone out to maximize battery.
Display has been auto
no task killers downloaded
setcpu profiles active
launcher pro with 7 hopmescreens all full with widget5s and programs
over 200 apps downlloaded from market
background sync on
no lwp on
no battery reconditioning done to my knowledge
i will be writing a more indepth walk through on my settings, apps, and how i use setcpu profiles within the next couple hours...hope this helps others, please thank me if it did
*update*
Hope SOMEONE gets some good out of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12448008&postcount=22
I can use my phone over two days without charging it and all I did was...nothing. I think the people who have problems with battery life are those who aren't at all familiar with how Android (and Android apps) work/s.
How long was the Display on?
just under 3 hours, just to reply to emails/texts, phone calls and a little gps/market browsing.
someone gave this a one star, nice...well i guess if no one cares about details i will just have the mods close thread...
Why make threats. Just close the thread down if that's what you want to do.
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justflorin said:
I wish i could do a screen shot....but with 8% battery life left and already downloading all the SS programs in the market, it wont be done.
I haven't charged my phone for 1day 15hrs 39mins, and still have 8% battery life.
Using nothing more than the built-in Task manager (aka performancemanager.apk) i have been testing my phone out to maximize battery.
Display has been auto
no task killers downloaded
setcpu profiles active
launcher pro with 7 hopmescreens all full with widget5s and programs
over 200 apps downlloaded from market
background sync on
no lwp on
no battery reconditioning done to my knowledge
i will be writing a more indepth walk through on my settings, apps, and how i use setcpu profiles within the next couple hours...hope this helps others, please thank me if it did
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Sounds great! I look forward to learning to replicate your success.
phobos512 said:
I can use my phone over two days without charging it and all I did was...nothing. I think the people who have problems with battery life are those who aren't at all familiar with how Android (and Android apps) work/s.
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I only started using Android with my Atrix. I did have a rom on sd for my Tilt2, but that was not even close to Android goodness. And phobos512, the very thought that you voiced is exactly what I am after. Any chance that you could point me toward an explanation or elaborate about how Android and Apps work.
The upcoming guide from justflorin will be like having a fish handed to me. What you speak of will teach me to fish.
Thanks to you both in advance.
I would definitely be interested in hearing some more about this being new to android. I'm currently averaging around ~14 hours I think from unplugged to 5% or so...
How my atrix is getting me 1day 15hrs of battery life...
I am interested in hearing more about this i a new to android. I'm currently averaging around ~13 hours I think from unplugged to 4% or so...
I can make it a solid day usually but my display is on longer than 3 hours easily. If you leave your phone alone of course the battery isn't going to drain as fast.
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I can EASILY last two and a half days if I wanted to. SETCPU is set to 760 Max, goes down to 400 some when screen is off. Battery manager is maximum profile (honestly besides email, why do you need apps to constantly sync??).
Best phone and battery I have EVER had.
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dmappdev said:
Why make threats. Just close the thread down if that's what you want to do.
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Good point.
dmappdev said:
Why make threats. Just close the thread down if that's what you want to do.
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I think he was giving the rest of the forum members a chance to express interest.
Sorry wrong thread
Drama for the win boo hoo.
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Greenbelt said:
I think he was giving the rest of the forum members a chance to express interest.
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I guess, because I'm not a child, I just don't get his rhetoric.
I'm getting 1d 15 hrs on average... I'd say usually about 1d 18 or 19 hrs.
Dude, im using launcher pro too. 7 screens, almost exact same setup. No task killers. I get 30 hours, you're absolutely correct.
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if hes syncing emails and social media theres no way he gets that kind of battery life. im currently on 24 hours of phone idle with 1 hour of display time and 50% left but thats with all account sync off but i do have background sync on for stuff like weather widgets. its no secret just turn off stuff that sync like emails, calendar, contacts and FB and you will get great battery life.
oh btw i know how to enable HSUPA and if you guys give me 100 thanks i will post it...
neotekz said:
oh btw i know how to enable HSUPA and if you guys give me 100 thanks i will post it...
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Okay. I just said thanks 100 times. Give it up!
ugh
dont see how this is possible imo.
i only use sync on wifi seeing as how i got the cheapest data plan known to man.
hardly text ever. just answer 10-20 phone calls a day. Play a few apps around 30-40min. a day the rest of the time its locked unless i check the time.
screen is on auto 5 screens on home screen with around 3 widgets on each and my battery last @ 14hours. at best
Hi guys i know there are lots of similar posts about battery life etc but cant find the answer im looking for after a search of this forum as all answers seem to be on rooted devices, she does not want her x8 rooted and im really getting it in the neck for upgrading her in the first place lol.
My girlfriend recently got the 2.1-update 1 via pc companion and thats when the battery problems started. The battery drain problem has actually been getting progressively worse since this. This morning (after yet another full night charging 100%) after 30 mins of getting up today the battery was down to 83 %. I have already uninstalled maps updates, not that she ever used it anyway.
So my question is : is there a solution to this without rooting and/or having a custom ROM? becuase she making my life a misery lol.
Thanks in advance guys and sorry for the similar post
swifteh said:
Hi guys i know there are lots of similar posts about battery life etc but cant find the answer im looking for after a search of this forum as all answers seem to be on rooted devices, she does not want her x8 rooted and im really getting it in the neck for upgrading her in the first place lol.
My girlfriend recently got the 2.1-update 1 via pc companion and thats when the battery problems started. The battery drain problem has actually been getting progressively worse since this. This morning (after yet another full night charging 100%) after 30 mins of getting up today the battery was down to 83 %. I have already uninstalled maps updates, not that she ever used it anyway.
So my question is : is there a solution to this without rooting and/or having a custom ROM? becuase she making my life a misery lol.
Thanks in advance guys and sorry for the similar post
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Well, 1st thing as Dx said. reboot after using wifi, 3g, music. reboot to make everything fresh.. but there's no other way to save battery without rooting I think. because I helped my gf installed a custom ROM for her and she said that the battery life changed, and it's way different than a original ROM. How come she doesn't wanna go custom? Sorry for my bad english.
Right tweaks only applies in rooted phone
deedii said:
Right tweaks only applies in rooted phone
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Agree with you!
Nah, rooting makes the difference. IMO Froyo ROMs have good battery life.
Well i think she might well have to go custom because the battery life is a joke now, nearly rendering her device unusable, think she just frightened cos i did her pc companion update and kinda blames me for the crap battery now, il have a read around the x8 forum on how to root.
Thanks everyone, apreciate it
Just try to keep off all things you don't need: Wifi, Bluetooth, Synchronization, 3G. also unninstall apps you don't need and do not use app killers to save RAM.
I think that is all you can do without rooting.
patriciocs said:
Just try to keep off all things you don't need: Wifi, Bluetooth, Synchronization, 3G. also unninstall apps you don't need and do not use app killers to save RAM.
I think that is all you can do without rooting.
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My friend, less RAM is actually a good thing. I've read through the web. just don't auto kill ALL the apps, kill those apps that when it doesn't look right or freezes. The more RAM you freed, the more battery it will drain. Serious.
swifteh said:
Well i think she might well have to go custom because the battery life is a joke now, nearly rendering her device unusable, think she just frightened cos i did her pc companion update and kinda blames me for the crap battery now, il have a read around the x8 forum on how to root.
Thanks everyone, apreciate it
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Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139163
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153768
Read this for the task killer.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/02/revisiting-android-task-killers-and-why-you-dont-need-one/
For rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046605
and custom ROMS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=849
Hope this helps!
I'm just a noob trying to help.
use a task killer and disable all what you don't need like bluetooth, data traffic, gps and wifi. yes i know my english is bad^^
disable wifi, gps, bluetooth and data traffic. stock 2.1update rom should get you about 3 days with those disabled. any apps that need them will ask you to switch them on again anyway. It's a little annoying to get used to at first especially when you're used to a fone that lasts a week without charge so I can understand how she feels especially if she only wants to text and do a few calls.
If you don't use wifi, 3g gps and rest of the s**t you should probbably buy a dumy phone.
With some "normal" usage you can be happy if it lasts for a day/day and a half.
2-3 is really success.
You do get a charger in the box with the phone you know?
Use your phone, stop wasting time on battery monitoring.
zvorkapic.os said:
You do get a charger in the box with the phone you know?
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yeah but the idea is it's a MOBILE fone.. You dont want it plugged into the damn socket all the time!
If you need to use the GPS, WIFI etc. the app will ask you to switch it on so wheres the harm in turning it all off until it's required if it saves having to plug the thing in every day?!?
Nobody stated you should keep all the functions on.
But it should be understandable that, with some "normal" use, and by normal I mean regular texting, phonecalls, check facebook/twitter, refresh weather app, read mail and some news maybe you can't expect your battery to last 7 days like on dummy nokia.
Besides, you all forget that your biggest battery killer is the screen.
And another thing I noticed; when LED starts to glow green, your battery isn't fully charged. Check phone status. It becomes green after passing 90% I think, or so.
And the second thing I noticed is a HUGE differenc when charging the phone while it's on, for a hour and a half when the battery metter reaches 100% and when I turn it off and leave it charging over night.
The "night" option proved to be a lot better (battery lasts longer, doesn't fall so fast) + Every once in a while it is good to fully discharge the battery and then fully charge it.
terracuk said:
yeah but the idea is it's a MOBILE fone..
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Yeah, but that mobile phones have long since ceased to be just phones.
Switch off everything you can : wifi, brighteness, gps etc. Also you can make a profile "screen off " in setcpu and set it to 122mhz . it will save you a lot of battery! It drains just 1% after 5 hours ( but i didnt use my phone) . Hope it help.
Oh yeah and use the app called " fast reboot " it is so good is well and it speed up our lovely x8
When i used these things , my phone lasts in a week or more of.course i nearly didnt use my phone.
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Seeing as I don't have enough posts to post over in the development forum, I thought I'd hijack this thread.
I installed this rom last week and at first, the batter was brilliant. It lasted for three days but now I have to charge it twice a day. I have bluetooth off, wifi off more often than not, brightness down very low.
The phone was 5hrs on battery and was down to 44%.
Cell Standby: 35%
Display: 20%
Phone Idle: 19%
Launcher Pro: 13%
Anyone have any ideas?
I also experienced the same problem ... especially with the overclocked conditions
I bought a SG2 some time ago and loved it except for the idle battery drain. For the life of me, I couldn't seem to get it to stop chewing battery when it wasn't being used. I even tested it by charging it to full and leaving it overnight. It lost about 20%.
Remembering that the iPhone 4 had excellent idle battery life, I decided to give it another go just for the hell of it. I hate iOS as a daily driver, but I figured at least I wouldn't have to worry about battery life.
These are my observations:
1) Idle time on iPhone 4 is indeed better. When it's not being used, it uses no battery. However, when being used heavily, the SG2 actually seems to get BETTER battery life than iPhone 4 when it is being used heavily. Not sure why.
2) I severely miss being able to send/upload high quality videos and pictures. I hate the restrictions that Apple places on file size. I don't always have wifi readily available and at least with Android, you can upload large videos to Youtube over the cell connection.
3) I miss the integration in the photo album with social services. It's annoying having to launch an app every time I want to upload a picture/video.
4) The camera on the SG2 is definitely better. You get more fine detail on objects that are further away, no doubt due to the higher megapixel count.
5) I think most apps on iOS look better and are more functional, but the problem is, you have to launch an app to do anything in iOS.
I really wish Samsung (and maybe Google in general) could solve the idle battery drain. Losing 20% over 8 hours without even using the phone seems rather high when you factor in that you'll be losing that battery life whether you use the phone or not. Theoretically, this should mean that the iPhone would get better battery life with the same use, but I'm not finding that to be the case so far. I will probably be going back to my SG2 very soon.
Sorry for the long-winded post. Just wanted to collect my thoughts and present my personal findings.
U r right about battery consumption .
But i m sure Android is going to be so much improved and vast in features that we cant compare to any os in the world in future.
Biggest plus of Android is community like this and the freedom to change things inside it.
agree on most of the things u said there
but
when it comes to battery life i have no idea why its soo random with some people
i lose about 1% an hour on KE2
(stock was on the phone when i bought it no root )
but since i installed KF3
i lose about 2% an hour
rooted flashed from odin
I must have responded to 10+ questions on this forum in the last 24 hours as regards battery drain, i get 25+ hours on my GS2, if you search on here you will find many tips that will substantially increase your battery life.
check the new kernel ninephetamine. Have used the modified 1.4v (with deep sleep enabled).....promising results with undervolting.
Currently OC 1400, and undervolted.
Simple Answer
Iphone does not loose batter on idle cause it puts all apps to sleep state if not used for a while
Android phones in general are always using data for like your emails, facebook, etc if you have set the apps to connect say every hour or so
IF you leave WIFI on it takes up battery as well
I am quiet happy with my SGS2 ( 12 -15 hours ) heavy usage and I am used to daily charging. and its just the day time hours unlike people who may be posting their night time hours as well which add anything form 8-16 more
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I must have responded to 10+ questions on this forum in the last 24 hours as regards battery drain, i get 25+ hours on my GS2, if you search on here you will find many tips that will substantially increase your battery life.
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I'm not interested in disabling everything that makes Android what it is. If I have to modify it to the point that it's an iPhone, I might as well use an iPhone. I'm well aware of battery saving tips for Android. They almost always involve shutting down all automated services and anything that retrieves data. This is not a solution. I have some e-mail accounts on periodic pull and the most important ones on push. On the iPhone, I have all e-mail accounts on Push.
I also don't particularly want to use a custom ROM. I prefer to stay stock.
I'm not getting horrible battery life on my SG2. In fact, I get around 15 hours with the same kind of use as that on the iPhone 4. I would just like to be able to set the phone down for several hours and not lose a quarter of the battery.
i have tried every single battery optimisation and calibration tricks on my Android phones. My first Android phone was a htc hero, second SE X10 and Now Galaxy S2.
All the optimisation and stuff works if you sacrifice something on your phone. i like my display to be sharp and easy to see. I want my email notification to be prompt and so many other things.
I used to be Windows mobile user my last handset was Toshiba TG01. i never ever had any battery issue.
It is to do with Android system, it needs to improve. it has all the pace now and so many chances.
if this roumor is true then IOS will shrink sooner than 2015:
http://www.mobilechoiceuk.com/News/iPhone+5+delayed+until+2012?/5990
Why my Lamborghini needs more fuel than my Fiat Panda? I can't understand. Crappy Lamborghini, back on Panda.
Well if riding the Panda can get me through the jungle instead of half of it, why not?
Also, the Panda can get me more food via the App Store.
Granted though the Lamborghini has alot more fancy features and doesnt have mindless sheep following it
Anyway, coming from an SGS1, then an iPhone4, I heartily agree with the OP. Android is awesome but it's still rough around the edges. Sometimes the ease and boring simplicity of IOS is something that I miss, along with the Apps and definitely the games which Android is sorely lacking.
But then again I'd be reminded of steve and his itunes bloatware. ugh
Yes, but when Lamborghini is parked it should use the same as the Panda! (I.e. zero.)
Google really should minimise the stuff going on when the phone is idle. Google also needs to do something about all these rouge apps that always start up services that always run in the background. They should provide some way of limiting/stopping the CPU usage of apps running in the background.
Even the official XDA forum app still servers up adverts in the background eating up your battery (and bandwidth) if you press home instead of backup to exit.
wifi sharing is a bit of a bug that drains battery like crazy. If your not rooted thats definitely the screen off battery drain for sure. If there was a reason to root, just root to freeze that one rogue app.
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Why my Lamborghini needs more fuel than my Fiat Panda? I can't understand. Crappy Lamborghini, back on Panda.
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LOL I like ur metaphor.. but at least give something better than Panda hahaha
Nope, the wifi sharing bug has now been fixed by Samsung in the stock KF3 release available via Kies.
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I'm not interested in disabling everything that makes Android what it is. If I have to modify it to the point that it's an iPhone, I might as well use an iPhone. I'm well aware of battery saving tips for Android. They almost always involve shutting down all automated services and anything that retrieves data. This is not a solution. I have some e-mail accounts on periodic pull and the most important ones on push. On the iPhone, I have all e-mail accounts on Push.
I also don't particularly want to use a custom ROM. I prefer to stay stock.
I'm not getting horrible battery life on my SG2. In fact, I get around 15 hours with the same kind of use as that on the iPhone 4. I would just like to be able to set the phone down for several hours and not lose a quarter of the battery.
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But most of the stuff is pretty useless anyway all this Samsung bloatware is guaranteed to drain your battery, i don't see it as sacrifcying anything, ive got email on push and i still get over 25+ hours battery,i used an iPhone 4 for a few weeks and id be lucky to get 16 hours with medium to heavy usage.
My data is always enabled too, you can save a lot of battery if you use apps like Juice defender plus and system panel will also tell you which apps,etc are using up more than others.
At the end of the day smartphones are always going to use up much more battery than normal phones and this isn't going to change anytime soon until such time a revoultionary new battery is designed that lasts for days on end.
Until then people have to deal with it,follow the tips and you'll get good battery life, if you want absolutely everything "on at the same time" your simply not going to get it, not on the iPhone 4 or any phone.
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wifi sharing is a bit of a bug that drains battery like crazy. If your not rooted thats definitely the screen off battery drain for sure. If there was a reason to root, just root to freeze that one rogue app.
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indeed this is very true.
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Yes, but when Lamborghini is parked it should use the same as the Panda! (I.e. zero.)
Google really should minimise the stuff going on when the phone is idle. Google also needs to do something about all these rouge apps that always start up services that always run in the background. They should provide some way of limiting/stopping the CPU usage of apps running in the background.
Even the official XDA forum app still servers up adverts in the background eating up your battery (and bandwidth) if you press home instead of backup to exit.
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It's not parked.
Your Engine is still running on idling mixture.
That's a difference. ;-)
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Nope, the wifi sharing bug has now been fixed by Samsung in the stock KF3 release available via Kies.
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Has not been properly addressed. Thats why its not even included in 90% of the custom roms.
persistence (with a modicum of technical ability).
Ever since I received my SGS 2 I've been plagued with "poor" battery performance - The stock ROM that came with it wouldn't stay charged longer than 12 hours when I was doing nothing with it and barely 6 hrs when I used it. I quickly discovered that Samsung had released a newer version via KIES, updated it and it improved it, not life changing but just enough to see me through the working day.
I was also disillusioned with the stock ROM that came with the phone - too much "bloatware" that I'd never use. Found this forum and started by rooting the phone, then using CWM and Titanium Backup to make full backups before moving on to loading custom roms. Tried the 3 that seemed most popular and stable - VillainROM, LightningROM and DarkyROM.
Much preferred Lightning ROM but after I'd installed it found that battery life was abysmal to the extent that I could have the phone plugged in and charging via USB and the battery would continue to go DOWN!
After restoring back to a CWM backup I did more research and found an app that would let me know what was killing the battery (see link at end). I re-installed the Lightning ROM and found that a security application called Privacy Guard (not LBE Privacy Guard) was chewing the battery up. This now made sense as this particular app had stopped working as it should after upgrading to Lightning ROM.
Un-installing this app made a massive difference to the battery life.
During this period I did have Juice Defender installed and since rooting the phone SetCPU. I had also encountered the "issue" with SetCPU appearing to cause reboots, closedowns and had turned off the functionality. But I was trying to use setCPU under the stock ROMS not a custom rom.
Since fixing the Privacy Guard issue and performing a clean install of Lightning ROM I now have a phone which lost only 3% battery last night (almost 8 1/2 hours).
I now have Juice Defender Ultimate, SetCPU configured to on-demand between 200Mhz and 1Ghz (I raise manually when I play games needing 1.4 or 1.6Ghz), Timeriffic to turn stuff off when I don't need it.
I have also put time into either removing or freezing (using TB) apps that I won't need.
Yes when I use the phone the battery goes down but it's a powerful phone and I treat it the same as a laptop running on batteries - The more I use it the less the battery lasts, get use to it people!
*link to app showing battery stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
i'm on stock kf3. rooted and removed bloatware (hubs, software update, maps etc). Battery life is good.
sent from my galaxy S2.
does juice defender really work??
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does juice defender really work??
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If you use it correctly and know what it is doing = yes.
A solid tip is to never ever ever ever ever ever ever use any of the bloatware provided by Samsung. Don't even start it once because some stay active even if you don't use them. They drain the life out your battery and there are enough good alternatives.
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If you use it correctly and know what it is doing = yes.
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I would love to hear about your settings.
It's an old one and oft repeated, but for anyone fresh to the 4378 (and counting) battery life threads, get out of Google Latitude and stay out - kills the battery
I'm wondering if you use your phone frequently all day and JD constantly renegotiating connections is it better to not use it at all
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If you are using yout phone really frequently (data) then JD is useless, but for me it really good.
I have bad signal at work, so I have JD set to sync every hour, preferred wifi and automatic night mode when i'm asleep.
Data on when screen on and everything is fine (for me).
Is there a safe way to delete bloatware apps? I mean what if I delete something that messes up the phone? Do I need to reinstall the Rom?
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It works or not is a different matter, IMO it is not needed, nothing is needed actually. Just install JD and you will see it under Wakelocks in Better Battery Stats. So it drains more than saving it.
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Is there a safe way to delete bloatware apps? I mean what if I delete something that messes up the phone? Do I need to reinstall the Rom?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069924&highlight=Safe+to+remove
Regards.
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Regards.
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Thanks a lot!
For working and busy people, i think you guys can get better battery life than me. As a student in a holiday(nothing to do except playing ps3 and running errands), I most of the time will unlock the sgs2 whenever i glanced or watched it. moving the icons around, changing launchers, putting widgets, etc... i took so many times using sgs2 everyday and it can last about 6-7 hours with almost all the time screen on except when i sleep.
for me, 10 hours is already ok. get used to it guys. buy a spare battery, or an external charger. no need to worries at all. you dont want to be a freak for battery life. constantly checking the battery and whats draining them. its not cool~~ use it to the fullest! until the manufacturers make a phone with large battery capacity! i mean officially. those 3rd party large battery are just a show off. they drain as much as the stock ones.
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It's an old one and oft repeated, but for anyone fresh to the 4378 (and counting) battery life threads, get out of Google Latitude and stay out - kills the battery
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Can I just delete it from my system apps folder and be done with it? Cuz I don't use it!
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Can I just delete it from my system apps folder and be done with it? Cuz I don't use it!
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Not sure - it may have dependencies with other more useful tools such as Maps. Just make sure you are logged out and keep clear of it - it's reasonably well behaved if left alone.
I have always used Stock not rooted yet and get around 13-19 hours, I don't use the samsung hubs, but have facebook, twitter, google + and three emails constantly running and use wifi browsing a lot
so am quiet happy as it is hence no need to root although I like flashing the new firmwares via ODIN
Just a brainwave??
With Titanium Backup you can freeze your unwanted apps. When the phone is working without problems you can safely remove the frozen apps (after making a backup of course)
raxio said:
Just a brainwave??
With Titanium Backup you can freeze your unwanted apps. When the phone is working without problems you can safely remove the frozen apps (after making a backup of course)
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Will think about freezing latitude though I don't use it
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I noticed that if you have alot of widgets running you will ruin your battery life. I dont use many and got amazing battery life out of the Stock Rom.
I am now using cognition rom and easily have the battery last all day still....
Cognition - Imo best samsung based rom on the s2, super stable with battery life on first flash lasting 18hrs+. If you havent tried it id suggest you did.
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36-38 Hours Battery Life!
I moved over from the HD2 a month ago. One of the things that astonishes me about the S2 is the battery life.
36-38 hours is the norm for me.
This is with:
- VillainRom
- Push Email (heavy use ~ 100 per day)
- No Lattitude
- No Wifi (HSDPA sufficient)
- No Bluetooth
I don't spend a lot of time making calls but being relatively new I am constantly fidgeting with it.