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reply from SE regards "Froyo update on Xperia X10"

I posted the petition link on the Sony Ericsson UK and global Facebook sites and got the following reply from SE:
“Hi Mark, Thank you for your feedback regarding the Sony Ericsson X10’s Android upgrade.
We appreciate your feedback regarding this and have passed this on to the relevant department. We can confirm that this is something our developers are currently looking into and will provide further information once this is available.
Regards,
The Sony Ericsson Facebook Team
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There is hope guys

That does sound promising. To be fair, they couldn't have missed the huge reaction from their customers. Well over2000 responses to the petition already and it's only been a couple of days. Looking brighter?
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Hopefully that is the reason that the incremental upgrade which was due "a couple of weeks" from May 5th has not materialised. Hopefully their best bods are focussing on seeing if 2.2 is a possibility....
No doubt their developers have X10 phones andthemselves would like their phones to be running 2.2...

cashaw said:
Hopefully that is the reason that the incremental upgrade which was due "a couple of weeks" from May 5th has not materialised.
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... dont worry about that, this update was part of development for X10mini (pro), so we should see it in the next weeks.
and yes, 2.1 and NO 2.2 (froyo) brings only bad vibes for SE (and their future)

Something tells me that although the response sounds promising SE won’t change from their original plan. The 2000+ votes (As good as this is) only accounts for a fraction of the x10 owners out there.
Leaving out Froyo until a completely new line of phones can be used as a sell tool and a reason to adopt any new android phones they release where as if the x10 get the 2.2 now the new line would have to have more hardware advances to prove their worth increasing cost. Judging the hardware cut backs SE made with its flagship device most people can predict or assume the next wave of SE android phones will follow suit.
The petition needs to reach beyond the blogs to really make a difference, If the Japanese got wind of the petition and signed up that would really open SE eyes and i'm sure the speed increase of 2.2 would be enough to get them on board. Any ideas how?
"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"

At the moment the link is also twittered strongly think that makes the difference.

almaqdad said:
I posted the petition link on the Sony Ericsson UK and global Facebook sites and got the following reply from SE:
“Hi Mark, Thank you for your feedback regarding the Sony Ericsson X10’s Android upgrade.
We appreciate your feedback regarding this and have passed this on to the relevant department. We can confirm that this is something our developers are currently looking into and will provide further information once this is available.
Regards,
The Sony Ericsson Facebook Team
”
There is hope guys
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No hope.
Just a standard message ...
Where did you see hope there?

Well, it is something that should have been done. Since this is the best SE phone in a long time, with a potential to get better.
So if they are choosing to apply this update... Then I would assume that I would be even more satisfied with my phone. But right now, is the thing that annoys me the most.. That I can't buy applications here in Norway yet.
And I can do it in Morocco, and that country isn't on the list either.

All I can say that 2.2 finally provides bluetooth functionality for voice dial.
In places where it is illegal to hold a cellphone while driving, voice dialing using bluetooth is an extremely useful function. Android devices have been lacking this since 1.5 cupcake. Google finally added full bluetooth functionality on 2.2. I hope SE does the right thing and updates the X10 to reflect this.
It is very annoying when Apple updates the Iphone constantly and Android phones are stuck on whichever hardware manufacturer schedule to make its phone unique (e.g. sense, timescape, touchflow).
I think Google has the correct idea of separating future updates from the unique modifications that the manufacturers want. But for that to happen, all phones have to reach 2.2. first.

i work in a bar in malmö, sweden which the nearest city to where se have a rather huge campus there, anyway, i got a saw a japenese guy with an x10 and told him that we have the same phones, i told him that the x10 really needs froyo to be updated onto it and he told me that it will prob be on it sooner than you think.
he explained to me that they knew about people crying out for 2.1 and well get it sooner aswell!!
is there light at the end of the tunnel??

The petition needs to reach beyond the blogs to really make a difference said:
"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"[/b]
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Here to reach them,but we still someone to translate in japanesse for us,ill try to find someone on my day off.
http://xperia-fan.jp/community
And here the official Japanesse twiter
http://xperia.twinavi.jp/

I've asked a mate of mine (who's a 5th dan Shotokan Karate!!) to see if he can do it, or ask one of his Japanese contacts to do it for us.. will let you know if I have any luck.

Great i just use google translator on the site.....my lol We really need a real Japanesse speaker
but it tell me they are in the same boat then us at least ,seems they getting 2.1 to eventually.
OSAnroid OS version 1.6 release with time. Worldwide, the latest version is 2.0 or 2.1 was announced and has been released.
Xperia is the OS version yet, it seems to be positively considered.
Since October 2010 presentation of the model in summer 2010 Android OS 2.1 to upgrade to announced that.
発売時の搭載OSAnroid OS バージョン1.6。世界的には、最新バージョンは2.0や2.1が発表されたり、発売されています。
XperiaのOSバージョンアップは未定ですが、前向きに検討されているようです。
2010年夏モデルの発表会で2010年10月以降にAndroid OS 2.1へバージョンアップをすることを発表しました。

visitador02 said:
All I can say that 2.2 finally provides bluetooth functionality for voice dial.
In places where it is illegal to hold a cellphone while driving, voice dialing using bluetooth is an extremely useful function. Android devices have been lacking this since 1.5 cupcake. Google finally added full bluetooth functionality on 2.2. I hope SE does the right thing and updates the X10 to reflect this.
It is very annoying when Apple updates the Iphone constantly and Android phones are stuck on whichever hardware manufacturer schedule to make its phone unique (e.g. sense, timescape, touchflow).
I think Google has the correct idea of separating future updates from the unique modifications that the manufacturers want. But for that to happen, all phones have to reach 2.2. first.
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They are still lacking the AVRCP profile update. It is still stuck on v1.0.. when the latest version is v1.4

Yep. I bought an MW600 as it was advertised that it's fully compatible with X10, but after three months of emails flying around, SE concluded that it's not fully compatible due to Android's limitation on AVRCP profile.
For MW600 to work fully with X10, we need AVRCP 1.3 or above!!

Maybe we can stress SE to roll out an update for security reason? These few days, Malware, backdoors and trojans in official market place became hot topic.
And quote from CNET :
At least 50,000 people had downloaded the apps in question, according to enthusiast site AndroidCentral. However, many of those potentially infected may have been protected by staying current with the latest Android updates. AndroidCentral notes that Google actually patched its source code to prevent this type of exploit for users running Android 2.2.2 or higher and that the vulnerability doesn't exist at all in Gingerbread, aka Android 2.3.
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Reports: Google yanks infected Android apps
Chances might be slim, but it worth a try?

Anyone know a way to contact SE regarding this issues(security/android version update)? Or would like to help get this message to them?
Posted on Xperia X10 Official community forum. Any other site, email to send the message to them?

could work if we tell them that this can somehow damage their fw or idk

alankstiyo said:
could work if we tell them that this can somehow damage their fw or idk
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The attack is an exploit, they have to patch it.
You need to do a full system wipe and reset your phone completely, the data wipe and reset from settings may not be enough. This means ODIN, RUU's, .sbf files or a trip to your carrier store if this is beyond your capabilities.
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But then what about product id/IMEI/IMSI and our privacy (some of us do have paypal, google account :gmail, contacts,checkout/bank apps).

Help me get optus to answer my question

We were promised by Optus that mid November we would get Froyo. Hit them up on @Optus on twitter or their support email. If more people start asking then we will actually get an answer.
At the rate it's going, we might well be the very last people in the world to get Froyo for our devices, even though we were some of the earliest adopters for the handset.

Keep us updated on your progress mate. I don;t have a twitter account but am in the same books as you.
I have rung them a few times but they are less then knowledgeable with a response.
Most of them you talk to don't have a clue what your talking about. ie. Firmware what?
Then try and direct you to call Samsung.
The last time I spoke to Samsung in Australia they couldn't provide any details at all.
A sad sad state of affairs to be sure.

This was posted on another forum I'm a member of (not phone related, just a Galaxy S thread). Sorry, I don't have links to back it up, so take it with a grain of salt.
From Optus Business Blog: dt. 16/11
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News: Android 2.2 for Samsung Galaxy S is now available
16/11/2010
Owners of Samsung's Galaxy S line of phones have been patiently waiting for the Android 2.2 update that many other Android owners have had for months, and now it looks like the wait may finally be over.
Samsung has announced that later tonight, at 8:00 PM, a download will become available to SamsungMobile.com that will be compatible with all Galaxy S devices, upgrading them to Android 2.2.
The news comes after Google and Samsung have continuously been dodgy about details regarding the update for Samsung's Android-powered smartphones. To date, the only handsets to receive the upgrade have been phones manufactured by other companies. Only about a quarter of all Android users have upgraded their device to the latest OS.
Many of those who haven't upgraded simply have a phone that is too outdated to receive it. But the Galaxy S platform is one of the most technically adept on the market right now and is more than capable of running Froyo.
Exactly what has been causing the hold-up is anyone's guess, but it's been a real problem for Samsung as it tries to market the devices.
Android 2.2 brings with it features like full browser support for the latest Flash video standard, the ability to use your phone as a mobile Wi-Fi hotspot, and enhanced voice controls for all aspects of the device. It should be a welcome addition to the Galaxy S family.
Written by Mark Raby from TG Daily

jimmy-bish said:
Written by Mark Raby from TG Daily
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This is from a US news website called TGDaily which was talking about the update but he missed the mark for sure.
It's not specifically related to OPTUS at all but a general comment stating Froyo was now available.
When you go to the Samsungmobile.com website you have to pick a region.
Australia takes you to that regions site and the Kies version here is way way old 1.5.1.10083
When you install this Kies, it will prompt you to update to the newer version.
BUT.......no Froyo.
Sad sad sad.

jimmy-bish said:
This was posted on another forum I'm a member of (not phone related, just a Galaxy S thread). Sorry, I don't have links to back it up, so take it with a grain of salt.
From Optus Business Blog: dt. 16/11
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All of this was proven to be wrong, and was copied from a blog entry from the day before from TG Daily.
It was promptly removed from the Optus blog.

Optus made an announcement on Twitter that Samsung delivered to them around 01/11/2010 the new firmware. They had to create their optus customisation for it and intended to release it mid november. Now its the 19th and it still isn't out. I figure anyone who cares should go put a question to them @Optus or their support email until we get an answer.
I don't mind the wait as such, it's just that I want to know what they are doing. I hate "two more weeks". IF they could say we are having trouble getting the widget to work and we want that working before we release, then OK, but silence is just downright frustrating!

Why the heck do you need the Optus customisations for? It's not like you get extra wallpapers or optimisations just a bunch of useless widgets and shortcuts but whatever.

I hope official firmware from Optus is better than Nordic JPA version.
I have JPA Froyo on my optus GS via Reg hack. Wifi is ify and phone lags...
Put same app side by side on GS and iPhone, GS one is slow.
EG. Kids only want to use iPhone for Talking Tomcat because it does not miss every second word.
Sad!

I was in the same boat as you guys not long ago. Waiting for Optus to release their modified firmware, checking kies day to day. I got kinda fed up waiting, figured that the firmware is of course just going to include all the optus and samsung bloatware to slow down the phone. Not to mention relying on kies to work properly.
So in the end I just put Dark's Rom on. works fantastically really. learnt how to do it (easy guide in his thread) and actually did it in under half an hour. the actual doing it only takes like 10 minutes. I know it's not for everyone, but i'm so glad I decided to go down that route rather than rely on optus.

I don't understand why you guys have to know what's going on all the time.. Optus have stated that their release intention is "By the end of November", for quite some time now.
Knowing exactly what's going on won't get you the release any faster, it serves no purpose but to waste their time by answering the children in the back seat "Are we there yet, are we there yet, are we there yet".
We'll get there, when we get there.
Perhaps if December comes along, and it's still not release, THEN start nagging.

Or just abandon all hope and flash a rom! I mean you are on xda after all.
I was waiting with my old eclair rom but went and flashed docs rom. I only regret not doing it sooner.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

Agreed, Custom firmware is guaranteed better than Optus bloatware.
Insanity, Spike Speedy v3 and Darky's v4.1 are all perfect for quick, fully optimised and bloat-free roms.

stevles said:
Agreed, Custom firmware is guaranteed better than Optus bloatware.
Insanity, Spike Speedy v3 and Darky's v4.1 are all perfect for quick, fully optimised and bloat-free roms.
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Comes with APN settings? Can choose which Optus apps you want etc?
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Care to quote the source that told you it was coming at the end of november?
Optus reply to my question
Content for those who can't be bothered:
"Update: we just got 2.2 from Samsung & testing it now so it's ready for you guys. Aiming to make download available early-to-mid November."

As of yesterday:
http://twitter.com/#!/Optus/status/5408549857398784
@optus is android 2.2 available for SGS?
@JoeeSTACK_ Not yet Joseph. We're expecting it to be available late November. Cheers - Julz
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There's no point spamming them on Twitter with the SAME QUESTION over and over again 50000 times, because I highly doubt busying up the customer support team will have any impact on whatever development team is modifying the firmware for release.

Animal06 said:
Comes with APN settings? Can choose which Optus apps you want etc?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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Alot of custom firmware comes with the Optus APN, the one I'm using at the moment came with it.
Which is Insanity.. Very barebones but you can easily install whatever stock apk's you want via the included link he gave to them on his thread.
If you want the Optus apk's (Why on earth you would is beyond me..) I'm almost sure you could get them off optus zoo, just give Optus a call and find out if you have any troubles I guess.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9264973&postcount=1
Edit: Also the Optus APN info can easily be added to the phone manually by going to Wireless and network > mobile networks > Access Point Names > press menu button, new APN
and the information for the APN (and all other Aussy ones) is here: http://ausdroid.net/apns/

I'm not neccessarily after a date, I want a reason. If they would just let us know that they really are still working on it, they aren't stuck with a resource problem or something like that then OK. I just hate it when they leave you with no news.
And my original statement still stands that we may well be the last carrier to actually get Froyo. I want the official one because I'm going into Optus if it doesn't fix the GPS for a warranty claim.

I want to know the date so I know when I can use the phone to it's full ability as advertised!
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

Just use the reg kies hack guys! I did a month ago all my settings etc remained intact...what r u waiting for it's beyond easy to do
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latest from Dell about o2: mid december!

Latest from [email protected]:
'We’re continuing to work with O2 to deliver the update, and expect this to start in mid-December #dellstreak'
Seriously!!!.what the hell!!...
@dell: Thanks but no thanks!!!
@djsteve: Thanks a lot!!..he he...maybe ill strt my preparation!!

Well the update has been released for unlocked phones, so I don't fault Dell for this. I place the blame on [email protected] least Dell was nice & smart enough to give you guys a status on the update.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

whether it is o2 or dell to be blamed..the end result is the same...i havent got the update..!!..so it time to move on I guess..

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Well the update has been released for unlocked phones, so I don't fault Dell for this. I place the blame on [email protected] least Dell was nice & smart enough to give you guys a status on the update.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App
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I Blame Dell, I wonder how many have got the offical update notification ??
Very few would be my guess, I'm a UK unlocked Streak owner & still no update for me.
I have asked Stephen twice via twitter about it but he doesn't bother to respond

superutp said:
whether it is o2 or dell to be blamed..the end result is the same...i havent got the update..!!..so it time to move on I guess..
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Don't let the door hit you in the rear on the way out.

lol...i wasnt talking abt getting rid of the streak!!...and probably am as 'eccentric a tabletphone user' as you are..
i was talking abt waiting for dell/o2 to give me wat I want..
but as it turns out...i am staying well inside the room and waiting for the official thing to come out...whenever it does..

superutp said:
whether it is o2 or dell to be blamed..the end result is the same...i havent got the update..!!..so it time to move on I guess..
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Indeed, I feel your pain. I mean what a terrible tragedy, having to wait almost a full month before a slightly updated operating system for your mobile phone becomes available. Nobody should have to bear such a tragic burden in their life. Have you asked whether the European Commission on Human Rights will take your case up?
On the other hand, you could just go to Argos and buy one - they are advertising that their Streaks come with 2.2.

@philip...ha ha I am sure you are being sarcastic there...
no thanks but Ill stick to my current o2 locked streak...cause currenly having 2.1 instead of 2.2 doesnt really make a big difference to my existance on earth...
it's just the 'customer unawareness' of dell/o2 which bothers me...nuthin else..

Dell, carriers?
If Dell "officially" releases the update, then the carriers pack their crap onto the update, does Dell have to check it for compatibility before the carriers sign off on it? Or do the carriers send their crap to Dell, dell packages it into their OS, then tests it, and then the carriers sign off on it?
God knows I wouldn't defend the manufacturer or the carrier, but does anyone know the procedure?
THIS is a glaring example of why carriers need to get the $*#&% out of the hardware/software side of the wireless phone business, and become pipes.
(In the USA) it use to be, you provide the phone, we provide the dial tone.
Now, I'm not naive enough to know why the carriers want to stay in the hardware
side of the business, but, as phones, software evolve, they need to seriously consider changing (in the USA) their business model.

At least DELL UK sell accessories for the streak........we have nothing in Australia
Not even a charger!!!

f**k the dell and o2 upgrading to 2.2 with dj steve had enough with their sh*t
we the first person to buy these f*cking device in uk and we are getting at last seriously love the device but dell a complete dirt company to deal with

To be fair, 02 added very little bloat to the Streak. Either 1.6 or 2.2. I personally would rather wait a couple of weeks for them to sort out the bugs in the thus far released 2.2 builds before it hits O2.
I'm currently using 2.1 with a mildly tweaked build.prop & ADW Launcher and other than the lack of flash it isn't lacking much.
Maybe I'm just more chilled as I'm getting older but I don't really see that the sky is falling down just because I have to wait a few days more for a phone firmware update.

Dell are fixing some of the bugs (hopefully more than some) in the initial 00 released roms..
you wouldn't want them to send the o2 ones out with something that stopped you watching iplayer would you?

Same here stateside...would rather wait until it is RIGHT...before updating.
When I was younger, as soon as a point release would come out, I'd jump on it.
Not so much anymore. I want stable.
I use to go bleeding edge on hardware for the PC, tweaking and tweaking to get the performance, and then living with unstable systems.
Last pc I built replaced one that I built and was stable for over six years, running 24/7. The one I built, should be as stable for another six.
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To be fair, 02 added very little bloat to the Streak. Either 1.6 or 2.2. I personally would rather wait a couple of weeks for them to sort out the bugs in the thus far released 2.2 builds before it hits O2.
Maybe I'm just more chilled as I'm getting older but I don't really see that the sky is falling down just because I have to wait a few days more for a phone firmware update.
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Official update
Hi everybody,
There is a link that gives you all the countries who are able to download the official update; go check on streaksmart and you will see a link for unlocked models; So I did and I am on froyo with my unlocked streak; I would say just one thing don't hesitate, it is official but happens manually...
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/11/...ntly-upgrade-to-official-android-22.html#more

The 'official' update was withdrawn until some bug fixes are done, anything you download just now will be unofficial and buggy.

It is the official update
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The 'official' update was withdrawn until some bug fixes are done, anything you download just now will be unofficial and buggy.
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You know,before saying it isn't official, go check the page by yourself; its the official page; I am not the only one who has download it and still I have no issues at all..so stop saying it is not OFFICIAL and go check by yourself

"I am not the only one who has download it"
thats it! the official update ist ota!
chris

Please, go check and read this page, you will be abble to download it on your streak,...
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/11/...ntly-upgrade-to-official-android-22.html#more

creamop66 said:
At least DELL UK sell accessories for the streak........we have nothing in Australia
Not even a charger!!!
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which power plug do you use there?

2.3.4 still on the horizon.....come and pray for it in this thread

Good evening guys and girls,
Had a surprise visit from a Samsung UK field rep today, who when asked about 2.3.4, he said his Galaxy S2 already running a build and had been for 3 weeks, he said it was nice and stable, didn't get chance to nab a photo but he said it was supposed to start rolling out from around the 10th of June to XEU handsets in the UK.
His handset was KE6 and KE9
Crossing my fingers big time.

Hope it will fix battery drain.

That would be nice.

This is exciting to hear. Thanks for sharing. Always look forward to a new firmware as it can sometimes fix little issues here and there

This actually confirms what I got told my a SammySon engineer and also what balenax has posted on here.

this is great news, will developers of the popular roms need to start from scratch?

What are the news/addition of android 2.3.4?

Just my luck as I'll be out of town till the 13th so no pc access to update :|

Sounds good, coming from an iPhone I still don't know what the OS updates for androids look like yet

zoobzone said:
Sounds good, coming from an iPhone I still don't know what the OS updates for androids look like yet
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they change from manufacturer to manufacturer, not very much tied to android, so your experience could vary between samsung, htc, motorola, google itself, etc

Artius89 said:
What are the news/addition of android 2.3.4?
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It's just bug fixes really and video support in GTalk.

Cool i hope this comes out soon hate the battery drain!
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2 using Tapatalk Pro

i am Looking farward to this! what dose 2.3.4 Bring?

did u mention the yellow tint issue to him?

yey, XEU ... hope this time a DBT release follows immediately!

total360 said:
Good evening guys and girls,
Had a surprise visit from a Samsung UK field rep today, who when asked about 2.3.4, he said his Galaxy S2 already running a build and had been for 3 weeks, he said it was nice and stable, didn't get chance to nab a photo but he said it was supposed to start rolling out from around the 10th of June to XEU handsets in the UK.
His handset was KE6 and KE9
Crossing my fingers big time.
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according to samfirware the new android 2.3.4 version will be kf1

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according to samfirware the new android 2.3.4 version will be kf1
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His was a development build so anything can change.
Also I don't suffer from the yellow tinge that was mentioned above so didn't ask. Sorry.

really hope we get 2.3.4 soon, this battery life sucks.

if we are using a UK version in the U.S do you think we will get the ota update or will we have to wait until someone posts it on the forum?

I hope it will stop the battery drain and the smartphone heat (sometimes)!
Do you think we will have to reset the phone or are we able to flashing over existing KE7(currently installed)?

like x10 series( X10 mini , mini pro ) ... do you remember ?

oh shiiiiit
that is my fault , i should leave sony since they lied to me on X10 series ... **** **** shiiiiit.
oh sorry
Hi guys
last week i've created a thread by named " hey sony , any update... "
most of people replied my post and talked rudely ...
anyway ,
now , i know that my opinion was true , sony is liar. they did again what they did on x10 series to us. they said x10 mini and mini pro can't run 2.1 froyo , but developers ported gingerbreads , also ICS on x10 series .
maybe this is end of time for sony , lie lie lie ...
actually , why should we buy somethings like xperia play 2 with thousands of false promises .
why should we trust Sony promises . Sony is nothing ,do they have powerful engineers ? Sony even can't support its specs ( oh god damn )...
i know that somee of kids want to reply again and say that my words are mere lie, sony is #1 , BLUHBLUHBLUH ...
totally , I just want to say :
without ICS update = no hope on sony anymore , none specs ...

I have similiar feelings like you, cause I had X10 too, and this is deja vu....Completely disappointed, but I know we (Devs) will make better ICS ROMs than Sony, we just need the latest sources. No bad words about Sony - they're good corporation, but I don't have luck with their smartphones, so I think never more Xperia - but other Sony stuff is great . Terrible info about no ICS...

Why leave sony, you have so much in common with them

Sony has been working hard on making an ICS update for the Xperia Play, and after so much testing they saw that it wouldn't give a good experience on this device because the hardware requirements for ICS.
Is this a company you can't trust with? Do you prefer a company that wouldn't even try to port ICS to the device?
Sony allways informed us about what they were doing. A lot months ago they opened a web informing what procedures they have to follow to make an Android update, they answered questions, and they even made an open beta to let users say what they think about the stability of ICS on our device.
Do you prefer a company that doesn't do all these things?
Are you angry because the Xplay won't get ICS? Ok, I'm angry too. But don't say thing like "oh Sony that bad company" because they gave a very good user support.
Be more mature and think what you say.

I might as well save one of my earlier posts into Notepad for these threads....Here we go
"There is no point, at all, in getting angry about this. They rolled out the beta as a way for the community to test and give feedback on what works and what doesnt. It did what a beta is designed to do. Unfortunately for Sony, the gamepad on the Play came back and kicked them right where it hurts. Id rather have a gaming device that works than one that doesnt.
To put it simply: All PS3/Xbox/PC users. Imagine if Sony or Microsoft rolled out a new OS that looked nice BUT......Controllers/Keyboard and Mouse support didnt work. Sure, you have a nice looking OS but the chief reason for buying the machine is gone.
People in here need to calm the hell down. Its not, I repeat, NOT...Sonys fault"
STOP...BLAMING...SONY

i found this rather interesting this post
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/197288#197288
States that not only will ALL 2011 xperia phones get ICS but they "PROMISE" we will get it...
Wow them broken promises guess i wont be believe that crap again

supernoodles2011 said:
i found this rather interesting this post
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/197288#197288
States that not only will ALL 2011 xperia phones get ICS but they "PROMISE" we will get it...
Wow them broken promises guess i wont be believe that crap again
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So who will you look towards now to not lie to you?
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sonicfreak360 said:
So who will you look towards now to not lie to you?
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not sure yet not due an upgrade till october but going to be doing my research on whatever company has the best out
and then when i get my new phone im probly going to record myself smashing up the xperia play it will help me feel better

Sigh.. after coming from a x10 mini pro this is rather annoying.
And I was recently interested in getting a Xperia Arc S or Xperia S, not that I hate sony now but I'm kinda bitter on them right now that I don't want them to have a penny from me anymore, but who knows if I'll change my mind later. Just hope they reconsider or at least release a more developed beta version.
Just doesn't feel good to be let down once again.

mehdi.moha said:
oh shiiiiit
that is my fault , i should leave sony since they lied to me on X10 series ... **** **** shiiiiit.
oh sorry
Hi guys
last week i've created a thread by named " hey sony , any update... "
most of people replied my post and talked rudely ...
anyway ,
now , i know that my opinion was true , sony is liar. they did again what they did on x10 series to us. they said x10 mini and mini pro can't run 2.1 froyo , but developers ported gingerbreads , also ICS on x10 series .
maybe this is end of time for sony , lie lie lie ...
actually , why should we buy somethings like xperia play 2 with thousands of false promises .
why should we trust Sony promises . Sony is nothing ,do they have powerful engineers ? Sony even can't support its specs ( oh god damn )...
i know that somee of kids want to reply again and say that my words are mere lie, sony is #1 , BLUHBLUHBLUH ...
totally , I just want to say :
without ICS update = no hope on sony anymore , none specs ...
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Yeah, I feel with you about leaving the Sony-scene and move on since they aren't that loyal to their customers after all.
But I will still have my Xperia Play as my main device and stick around with it since I still can call with it and I bought it to play and FPse is one of the few emulators I need in ICS and I'm sure the great devs here at XDA will bring some real good ICS-ROMs as I have already seen and tried a couple, like KA13 and ICS++, and AOKP with more

Miles Wolf said:
Sony has been working hard on making an ICS update for the Xperia Play, and after so much testing they saw that it wouldn't give a good experience on this device because the hardware requirements for ICS.
Is this a company you can't trust with? Do you prefer a company that wouldn't even try to port ICS to the device?
Sony allways informed us about what they were doing. A lot months ago they opened a web informing what procedures they have to follow to make an Android update, they answered questions, and they even made an open beta to let users say what they think about the stability of ICS on our device.
Do you prefer a company that doesn't do all these things?
Are you angry because the Xplay won't get ICS? Ok, I'm angry too. But don't say thing like "oh Sony that bad company" because they gave a very good user support.
Be more mature and think what you say.
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i'm sure that XDA's developers can make ICS better that sony , like what they did on our x10 mini-mini pro ...
sony-mobile allways say that they have expert engineers ... ( shiiit )
so , xda's developers are more expert than sony's engineers ???!!!
plus , they only need dommlord , jjkkyu , bin4ry ... ?
i'm sure that sony is liar . just wait 4 or five mounths , maybe sony wants to make new play-xperia ! ( something like xperia play 2 ) ! and that is reason to leave our xperia play without hard working on update .
on 2010 , they stopped working on X10 series , just because of 2011 series !
just look at apple updates , they support their specs for 3 years ,!unfortunately , now i can understand , why apple owners , allways laugh at us !

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26575291#post26575291
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