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I'm really wanting to get a G1, but I'm stuck in a contract with AT&T for 1.5 more years :/ So I was hoping I could find one online. I came across this site via Google product search, but the fact that they're selling it for so cheap raises some red flags.
So what do you think? Does it look like scam to you?
looks fine, $200 is about what a G1 goes for now at t-mo if i'm not mistaken, they are moving on to their next phone so they dropped the price on this one
And I quote:
WARNING TO EVERYONE THAT WEBSITE/COMPANY DOES NOT EXIST! ITS A FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAKE SURE YOU DONT PUT YOUR REAL INFO ON THERE!
March 17, 2009 by ERIC in Richmond, VA
Merchant Ratings SCAM
OK So I went to this "store" DOES NOT EXIST! The phone number it gives is a law office and the address lead me to a Subway restaurant. I stupidly sent in my info on itsinstock.com. Whatever it really is, its a scam. Don't bother with this thing. I should have figured a site selling a Blackberry for $250 BELOW retail was some sort of scam. I'm a totally freaked out that they have my info now and will be contacting my credit cards to report this site incase they try to steal my info or start charging me..
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http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/City.Wireless.818-753-8400
You can try it, but I'd get a prepaid Visa card & give em that info as opposed to your bank/credit card info.
from the link you just posted:
*ITEM IS NOT AVAILABLE THROUGH THIS WEBSITE, INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY
Buy an ADP1. It is an HTC Dream, like the G1, but comes contract free, is sim-unlocked, bootloader-unlocked, and has root. It is also available from a reputable source... you actually buy it directly from google, which has some kind of deal with brightstarcorp (or something like that), but either way, its google who is on the line for the transaction.
Get a Rogers HTC Dream from Canada (ebay?); it will work with AT&T's 3G network. Or you can get the ADP1 which will only work with EDGE. Either way you're going to be spending some bucks since you're not getting the promotional price that comes with a new contract.
I've seen a legit deal like this before (months ago), where you get an amazing deal through an affiliate website. However, I have no idea what site link this guy is selling.
Anyone have any idea?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GET-PORTED-...313?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cb2c7299
I've heard a couple guys talking about getting an unlimited plan through an affiliate website that swear it was legit (people I worked with), so I don't doubt it exist through some loophole, I just don't know what it is. I'm definitely willing to pay the amount if it does what it claims.
Or hell, anyone interested in throwing a few bucks into the pot and buying it and seeing what it is? If we get 8 people to throw in 5 bucks, we can all share the link, or we would only lose 5 bucks if it was a total scam which I don't really think it is.
I read a few other auction descriptions, and from what I can piece together, it's some plan offered only to Business subscribers (which anyone can be).
Business accounts can get unlimited data but I wouldn't trust that
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So I was about to hit the button on a pre-order from NegriElectronics for my Unlocked T-Mobile Note 3. I'm gonna buy it from them anyway cause it is about $100 cheaper than getting it from T-Mobile. But as I was browsing their twitter feed for any discounts, I saw that they had updated their warranty (Negricare) plans. I wasn't going to get on originally because I thought $100 down plus a $75 deductible was kinda high, but now that they are cheaper ($59 plus $50 deductible), I wonder if it's worth it now. It still covers accidental damage plus water, manufacturer's defects, etc. I have never broke my phone (though I have dropped it once or twice), but it's always when you think you are safe that crap happens. If anything happened to my delicious Note 3, I would be so depressed.
They just announced these changes today, so I don't know if anyone has had a chance to discuss this yet. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
http://www.negrielectronics.com/blo...rgo-major-redesign-in-favor-of-affordability/
https://negrielectronics.com/negricare-protection-plan-more-info
Upfront costs mean nothing if you have claim issues down the road. It's not "Negri" insurance it's offered by a third party under Negri's name. Read the T&C to find out who's behind it and see what their AM Best rating is. Also do a Google search to see what people's claims experience have been with the third party. I've had two devices totaled and received $1, 500 in compensation in a week for both claims from SquareTrade no questions asked. Personally, I'd stick to what I know. Good luck.
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Upfront costs mean nothing if you have claim issues down the road. It's not "Negri" insurance it's offered by a third party under Negri's name. Read the T&C to find out who's behind it and see what their AM Best rating is. Also do a Google search to see what people's claims experience have been with the third party. I've had two devices totaled and received $1, 500 in compensation in a week for both claims from SquareTrade no questions asked. Personally, I'd stick to what I know. Good luck.
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Thanks for the reply. I will consider Squaretrade as well.
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So I was about to hit the button on a pre-order from NegriElectronics for my Unlocked T-Mobile Note 3. I'm gonna buy it from them anyway cause it is about $100 cheaper than getting it from T-Mobile. But as I was browsing their twitter feed for any discounts, I saw that they had updated their warranty (Negricare) plans. I wasn't going to get on originally because I thought $100 down plus a $75 deductible was kinda high, but now that they are cheaper ($59 plus $50 deductible), I wonder if it's worth it now. It still covers accidental damage plus water, manufacturer's defects, etc. I have never broke my phone (though I have dropped it once or twice), but it's always when you think you are safe that crap happens. If anything happened to my delicious Note 3, I would be so depressed.
They just announced these changes today, so I don't know if anyone has had a chance to discuss this yet. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
http://www.negrielectronics.com/blo...rgo-major-redesign-in-favor-of-affordability/
https://negrielectronics.com/negricare-protection-plan-more-info
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Thank you for your interest. We simply offer the plans to provide the means to protect your purchase. We have recently partnered with Mack Warranty to back our NegriCare plans. Mack provides exceptional service throughout the claim, which is the #1 reason we chose them. We were able to negotiate costs with them to keep prices down for our customers. The plans are worth it, even if you don't need to file a claim - it's the 'peace of mind that' is worth the money down.
You're likely to find positive and negative reviews for all warranty/protection plan providers out there. It's best to purchase your plan from a trusted company, and what better company than the one that will sell you your device.
We hope to you enjoyed your shopping experience, and if you have any questions please visit our site. below are some useful links.
FAQ: http://negricare.negrielectronics.com/
About Us: http://negrielectronics.com/about-us
Live Support: http://negrielectronics.com/ (bottom left)
Techngro said:
So I was about to hit the button on a pre-order from NegriElectronics for my Unlocked T-Mobile Note 3. I'm gonna buy it from them anyway cause it is about $100 cheaper than getting it from T-Mobile.
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How is it $100 cheaper from Negri than it is from T-Mobile? Did you see something I'm missing?
Sent from my Incognegro Jedi-Powered Note 2
After reading reports of how poorly Negri has treated customers who have ordered the T-Mobile version thus far, I would think twice about ordering from them.
Att.Fan1982 said:
How is it $100 cheaper from Negri than it is from T-Mobile? Did you see something I'm missing?
Sent from my Incognegro Jedi-Powered Note 2
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I was wondering this too. Based on your image, NE is only $18.50 less than TMo. However, if the OP is also including the tax, then yes - NE is a lot cheaper. According to NE's FAQ about taxes collected, they only collect tax for orders that are shipped to the state of Nevada. I am in CA, so this will be a LOT cheaper for me through NE, since CA's tax is so high.
However, I am not jumping on the Note 3 just yet, until the actual true specs of the Nexus 5 are announced.
Yeah tax is the big killer in buying from the carrier. The savings from NE are worth it as long as they ship tomorrow as on their site. If they push the date later (like the AT&T version was to the 10th), I'll probably cancel and just pick it up locally.
Att.Fan1982 said:
How is it $100 cheaper from Negri than it is from T-Mobile? Did you see something I'm missing?
Sent from my Incognegro Jedi-Powered Note 2
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Yeah, it's not just the tax, it's also the fact that I used a coupon code (NE20OFFCART) and got another $20 off as well as free shipping. So my total came to $668. T-Mobile with tax would probably be about $762. So that's why I said $100 cheaper, give or take.
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Yeah, it's not just the tax, it's also the fact that I used a coupon code (NE20OFFCART) and got another $20 off as well as free shipping. So my total came to $668. T-Mobile with tax would probably be about $762. So that's why I said $100 cheaper, give or take.
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Thx for the coupon code, as I had missed this! =)
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Thx for the coupon code, as I had missed this! =)
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NP. You can hit the thanks button under my post.
bigmout said:
After reading reports of how poorly Negri has treated customers who have ordered the T-Mobile version thus far, I would think twice about ordering from them.
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What have you heard? All I want is my device to arrive in one peace undamaged. As long as that happens I will give then a good rating.
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What have you heard? All I want is my device to arrive in one peace undamaged. As long as that happens I will give then a good rating.
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Check out the last two pages of the pre-order thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2437978&page=39
I was toying with ordering the T-Mobile model from them but don't think I will now.
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Check out the last two pages of the pre-order thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2437978&page=39
I was toying with ordering the T-Mobile model from them but don't think I will now.
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Yeah, to be honest with you, i'm kinda on Negri's side with this one. The main post (the one with the chat and email logs) that criticize Negri show that the guy was complaining about them not shipping as early as the 19th of September. Correct me if i'm wrong, but all of the carriers were saying October 1st-4th for availability. Negri had the expected ship date as 10-3, so i'm not sure what the guy was complaining about.
Now, they have changed the ship date to 10-10, but again, i'm not gonna go crazy because of this. I am saving almost $100 dollars after all. And with all the cancelled pre-orders, I might just get it earlier. lol/jk
Is it odd that official news said that Samsung wasn't going to release 16Gb versions, but Negri has them listed?
Also, from the Q&A:
Thank you for contacting Negri Electronics. We greatly appreciate you taking the time to browse our site and take interest in our units. This unit will not support 4G on T-Mobiles network. This unit will only support 2G speeds on T-Mobile. This unit has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800. Feel free to contact us with any questions or concerns. Thank you and have a nice day.
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I think I'm glad I spent the other $90 just to cozy up with Tmo. I like that they have iPhone users (and others) entirely dependent on them for support, hardware included, because I get that, too, not because I need it, but because USB ports, power buttons and other main board & plastic parts just don't last that long.
do we have confirmation that the tmob unit from negri has an unlocked bootloader and will work on att lte?
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Yeah, to be honest with you, i'm kinda on Negri's side with this one. The main post (the one with the chat and email logs) that criticize Negri show that the guy was complaining about them not shipping as early as the 19th of September. Correct me if i'm wrong, but all of the carriers were saying October 1st-4th for availability. Negri had the expected ship date as 10-3, so i'm not sure what the guy was complaining about.
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Hmmm... good point lol. I think he was more pissed off at the perceived threat to delay his shipment because he complained to Google. But you make a fair point -- good catch.
Regardless, you can see several people canceled their pre-orders because of unreliable estimated ship dates and lack of customer service. I've given up dealing with online outlets because of similar hitches with another seller (not Negri) when buying my OG Note. It's left me gun shy lol.
Janis said:
Is it odd that official news said that Samsung wasn't going to release 16Gb versions, but Negri has them listed?
Also, from the Q&A:
I think I'm glad I spent the other $90 just to cozy up with Tmo. I like that they have iPhone users (and others) entirely dependent on them for support, hardware included, because I get that, too, not because I need it, but because USB ports, power buttons and other main board & plastic parts just don't last that long.
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Wait What?!?!?!
There's no way that that is correct. It's a branded T-Mobile device (you can see it in the pic of the back cover). In addition, the heading of the listing says "Samsung Galaxy Note 3 32GB LTE (T-Mobile) (Unlocked)". Since it has LTE (T-Mobile) in the heading, I'm pretty sure it is LTE capable.
Also, the version that PCMag reviewed here (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2424853,00.asp) was a T-Mobile version, and it was the Snapdragon 800 version of the Note 3. They said that it was using T-Mobile LTE. Negri CSR probably just didn't know what they were talking about or made a simple mistake. There are two versions of this phone after all.
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Hmmm... good point lol. I think he was more pissed off at the perceived threat to delay his shipment because he complained to Google. But you make a fair point -- good catch.
Regardless, you can see several people canceled their pre-orders because of unreliable estimated ship dates and lack of customer service. I've given up dealing with online outlets because of similar hitches with another seller (not Negri) when buying my OG Note. It's left me gun shy lol.
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Thank you for your note. We post "estimated" shipping date for this reason. They are estimated and we are not 100% exact on when they will arrive. If you called around to 40 different T-Mobile stores they would have less info than we provide. Our customer service isn't really "lacking" per-say, it's there, and we are doing our best to handle every request. The fact that some customers are angry with us isn't because of our customer service, it's because of the delay of their product. Customers reach out to us in the worst way, demanding a refund, threatening - however, we do all we can to keep the customer calm, respect their reasoning behind the aggression and try to settle them the best we can. Some have even threatened us if we didn't cancel their order - when they were never charged to begin with. It's a tough job, and no one is perfect, but don't give up on Online stores because of that. Give Negri a chance. The T-Mobile Note 3 is delayed, it happens. We don't do this intentionally - there is absolutely no benefit to it. Zero.
Everything we do is above board, honest and transparent. That's the way this company will always operate while it's under my command.
Ryan J. Negri - CEO
Negri Electronics, Inc.
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Hmmm... good point lol. I think he was more pissed off at the perceived threat to delay his shipment because he complained to Google. But you make a fair point -- good catch.
Regardless, you can see several people canceled their pre-orders because of unreliable estimated ship dates and lack of customer service. I've given up dealing with online outlets because of similar hitches with another seller (not Negri) when buying my OG Note. It's left me gun shy lol.
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The intention was not to delay his shipment, it was about the resolution. If we could not reach a resolution it would affect his order of course, but the issue at hand is that since a claim was filed with Google, it is handled by an escalated department and not regular NegriCare.
We just hope that all customers understand that it's 100% better to come to us first, than file a claim. The claim form even says to contact us first - but this customer didn't feel that applied to him. Oh well. We deal with things as they come, and with the best possible mindset. We can't please everyone, but we can do our best to try. Sometimes that matters most.
Ryan J. Negri - CEO
Negri Electronics, Inc.
Clove sent me an email stating that if they get to 600 orders for the Z3 Compact before launch, they'll include a Roxfit case and Sony AN401 car charger free with every order.
If you're still in the market for this and haven't pulled the trigger yet, keep this in mind. Sounds like they have over 400 orders already, but there's only 10 days left!
Edit: Here's a link with more details http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/09/16/a...ia-z3-compact/
Do we need some kind of code to "order" is it "automatic" as you say? There's no mention on their site or blog.
According to the email it's automatic, and they will add it to my order if the condition is met.
You can email [email protected] for more info if you'd like.
Edit: Here's a link that was created when I clicked view email in browser. Perhaps you'll be able to see that as well:
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Edit 2: As quickly as I did that, they updated their site. You'll see a general statement if you click on the Z3C, but here's a link to their blog with more details:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/09/16/another-special-offer-sony-xperia-z3-compact/
Wow - talk about making a good deal even better. I've put up a Reddit submission for it: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2gkf75/clove_offering_case_and_car_charger_if_they_hit/
Hopefully that'll get a bit of interest.
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Wow - talk about making a good deal even better. I've put up a Reddit submission for it: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2gkf75/clove_offering_case_and_car_charger_if_they_hit/
Hopefully that'll get a bit of interest.
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Yes indeed! I'm pretty excited to get the phone alone, but would certainly welcome some free accessories!
Thanks for all your information.
I pre-ordered. I recommend that North Americans use PayPal as a payment option - I tried a direct card payment and it failed. I seem to recall having issues with Clove and direct card payments in the past.
Now Handtec are saying that they're going to offer a guaranteed pre-order bundle. This is the start of a price/extras war I hope http://www.handtec.co.uk/sony-xperia-z3-compact-16gb-black-1288-5849.html
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... I tried a direct card payment and it failed. I seem to recall having issues with Clove and direct card payments in the past.
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More likely it's your card issuer; they will decline an international charge to prevent fraud if you don't regularly make such purchases. After calling the bank and verifying that you did attempt the charge they will release the hold and payment will go through.
Edit: BTW, Handtec is matching the free accessories offer for all pre-orders, no minimum order limit.
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Is there any way to get the green variant though? Seems Carphonewarehouse is the only one that sells it but they don't ship to the U.S. :/
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More likely it's your card issuer; they will decline an international charge to prevent fraud if you don't regularly make such purchases. After calling the bank and verifying that you did attempt the charge they will release the hold and payment will go through.
Edit: BTW, Handtec is matching the free accessories offer for all pre-orders, no minimum order limit.
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I never get issuer referrals other than with Clove. It's consistent. I spend A LOT online including big-ticket travel etc. Anyway, it worked fine with PayPal, so again, that's what I recommend.
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Thanks for all your information.
I pre-ordered. I recommend that North Americans use PayPal as a payment option - I tried a direct card payment and it failed. I seem to recall having issues with Clove and direct card payments in the past.
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Yeah, my AMEX was declined, so I used it through PayPal as well. Good tip!
Just posted at RFD: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/clove-uk-z3-compact-d5803-500-usd-550-cdn-free-stuff-1556567/
My guess is that now that Handtec is offering an unspecified accessories bundle with "no strings attached" (e.g. no minimum pre-order qty), Clove is going to have to make good on that even if don't hit the 600 target. We'd never know if they really hit it or not, so it's easy for them to just say they've hit the mark.
Very true, it is very bold of them to throw that out there. Could put a bad taste in the mouth of everyone if they don't make good on this offer. This is my first ever international phone order, so I'm very hopeful of a smooth process in it.
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Very true, it is very bold of them to throw that out there. Could put a bad taste in the mouth of everyone if they don't make good on this offer. This is my first ever international phone order, so I'm very hopeful of a smooth process in it.
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Oh, Clove will definitely hit their mark, either in reality or make believe.
Seriously, does anyone honestly believe that they've sold 'exactly' 400 units as stated in the blog post (not 407, or maybe 386?), or that they will notify us immediately when they hit 600 units?
Their goal is to use the enticement of some free accessories to get the pre-order buyers to do a little advertising leg work for them. Nothing wrong with that so long as we call it what it is, and the accessories would be nice!
Handtec obviously had to ante up, just as they did by beating Clove's price drop by a small margin, and they took the option of making them available to all pre-orders, probably betting that they will receive some orders from people that want the sure thing.
In the Netherlands you get a Sony MDR-ZX750 headset (worth €150) 00 when pre-ordered, not mather where you buy.
Spoke to handtek other day regarding potential delivery date... Although he couldn't divulge.. He did accidently let off that they've sold 300 red z3c already... They must have clocked way over 600 on total.
There website now says expected 22nd September... Yes :thumbup:
Pre-ordered mine now from Clove. (I hope they don't shaft me on the offer)
I've ordered my Z3C through Clove, and would have done regardless of the accessories bundle. They are a customer focused company and deserve as much business as they can get in my opinion.
Rest assured they'll go above and beyond to make sure all pre-orders receive the accessories, even if they don't reach the target (unlikely).
Handtec Vs Clove
So is everyone buying through Clove or Handtec?
I've never purchased a phone online like this before, so please excuse my trepidation. What are the Pros and Cons of purchasing with each company?
Does anyone have any experience with either of these companies? Who would have better customer support for an International (South African) customer like me? Especially if something goes wrong.
Lastly, I imagine both companies are offering similar accessory bundles together with the purchase. Are there any known differences yet?
Thanks guys! Any input is greatly appreciated!
So here is a real live test and review of Waypedia. Spoiler: We strongly advise against using these guys.
We contacted them and wanted to run a campaign with U.S installs only. Explaining that our only interest is solely U.S traffic.
We ran a campaign with 1k installs over 24 hours, something that was close enough, we got the installs but more spread over 48 hours. The price was decent, since we paid 180$ for 1k installs.
So far, almost good.
We requested to continue on the campaign, but to double the installs (2k 360$) and spread it over 3 days instead. Because we wanted to evaluate a bit more, before starting to spend any significant amount of money.
When we started analyzing the traffic, we saw that we got installs from Vietnam and all kinds of countries. Something that confused us, because we clearly states that we're only interested in U.S only traffic.
We contacted Waypedia asking why our traffic was spread Worldwide and not U.S as requested.
They claimed that they misunderstood that the last campaign should be U.S only traffic and therefore initiated a worldwide campaign. (Because having 1500 installs in Vietnam will boost your app how exactly?!)
They offered to have the remainder of the installs in U.S, but wanted to up the price.
After some discussions back and forth we agreed on having the remainder of installs in U.S without any changes to the price.
Needless to say, we're extremely unhappy with Waypedia for having us pay for their mistakes and then not properly rectifying them. Especially since we stated cleary that non U.S traffic is completely irrelevant for us.
We should have listened to our gut feeling after the first campaign, where it was agreed to have 1k installs within 24 hours and we got them with 48 hours. That should have been the warning sign for us to not continue right there. Considering that they could not live up to the commitment of the first campaign. Something we really blame ourselves for.
We thought it was a bit to good to be true. Turns out it was!
We're sharing our experience, so that other developers doesn't need to do the same mistake as us!
developerhouse said:
So here is a real live test and review of Waypedia. Spoiler: We strongly advise against using these guys.
We contacted them and wanted to run a campaign with U.S installs only. Explaining that our only interest is solely U.S traffic.
We ran a campaign with 1k installs over 24 hours, something that was close enough, we got the installs but more spread over 48 hours. The price was decent, since we paid 180$ for 1k installs.
So far, almost good.
We requested to continue on the campaign, but to double the installs (2k 360$) and spread it over 3 days instead. Because we wanted to evaluate a bit more, before starting to spend any significant amount of money.
When we started analyzing the traffic, we saw that we got installs from Vietnam and all kinds of countries. Something that confused us, because we clearly states that we're only interested in U.S only traffic.
We contacted Waypedia asking why our traffic was spread Worldwide and not U.S as requested.
They claimed that they misunderstood that the last campaign should be U.S only traffic and therefore initiated a worldwide campaign. (Because having 1500 installs in Vietnam will boost your app how exactly?!)
They offered to have the remainder of the installs in U.S, but wanted to up the price.
After some discussions back and forth we agreed on having the remainder of installs in U.S without any changes to the price.
Needless to say, we're extremely unhappy with Waypedia for having us pay for their mistakes and then not properly rectifying them. Especially since we stated cleary that non U.S traffic is completely irrelevant for us.
We should have listened to our gut feeling after the first campaign, where it was agreed to have 1k installs within 24 hours and we got them with 48 hours. That should have been the warning sign for us to not continue right there. Considering that they could not live up to the commitment of the first campaign. Something we really blame ourselves for.
We thought it was a bit to good to be true. Turns out it was!
We're sharing our experience, so that other developers doesn't need to do the same mistake as us!
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Wow, thanks, I won't try them. Personally I recommend androidinstalls.com services. I love the CPA service, because it looks netural. They offer not just event completion, but keyword search and retention! BTW the best is non incentivized traffic, but unfortunately too expensive...