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I posted in another thread about the issue of digitizer being glued to lcd. I had more pics to show, and decided disassembled pics are useful to all! So new thread for full set! If you want more I can get more! If I get enough questions I might make a tutorial for dis assembly.
General Disassembly
Slideshow:
http://img96.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=htchd2wificam2.jpg
Desoldered Digitizer Pics
Slideshow:
http://img705.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=htchd2desolderedtermina.jpg
Digitizer Removal w/ Razor
Slideshow:
http://img696.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=htchd2digioffrazor.jpg
ENJOY!
This really is a great phone!
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Fixed problem!
OH NO!! what HAVE U done!!!
I know...The horror...I haven't re-assembled to see if still working...HA!
I disassembled because of a cracked digitizer.
looks like a fur or "plastic" carpet, hope you don't end up with ESD related problems
ESD as in ElectroStatic Discharge ^^
Phone still works just fine.
If anybody knows how to un-solder the digitizer away from the lcd, help would be appreciated!
New images added.
Next up:
digitizer/lcd separation
any updates?
Have you managed to fix it yet?
We all want you to succeed so we can operate on our own cracked ones! Maybe you need the "unglue" chemical - you know, like superglue has an antiglue for reversing it's stickiness. If you could find out what glue bonded it, then a specialist adhesive supplier probably knows how to reverse it.
I'm sure you'll like this (if it isn't posted here before...)
http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked
Still not clear, has he finally removed the lcd on that video from the digitizer? to me it looks they're still cemented
tamas970 said:
Still not clear, has he finally removed the lcd from the digitizer? to me it looks they're still cemented
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Well if they're cemented (hopefully with some hyper-glue), thats a GOOD thing. Then this will be (hopefully) my first device with NO dust under the glass.
Don't you people have insurances on your devices? Talk to the ensurance company and you will get a new device for a small excess - that is, if it's beyond repair
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Well if they're cemented (hopefully with some hyper-glue), thats a GOOD thing. Then this will be (hopefully) my first device with NO dust under the glass.
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its not ... I have dust under the displayglass.
Floatheavy, and everyone else.
I'm currently on my second HD2, first suffered a hairline crack on the digitizer and it went COMPLETELY unresponsive. After getting the second, I had nothing to loose and disassembled the first. I got everthing apart up to the LCM, this module has everything (the glass digitizer, the LCD and the backlight) all cemented together. As I took the phone apart, priodically I would test that it still worked - everything except the digitizer. When I tried to separate the digitizer from the LCD and baclight I ended up tearing the layers of the LCD apart, now one layer is still glued to the digitizer and one is still glued to the backlight. I have yet to see how this can safely come apart and untill I can buy the LCD the phone is totaly screwed. I think one has to purchase an entire LCM and not just the digitizer.
For those that want to try separating the digitizer - BEWARE, noone seems to have found the secret yet! If I manage to discover something new I'll post.
Yeah. I tried the heat method to separate the digi from the LCD...
No luck
It seems it is more than the simple adhesive broken down by heat.
To get the bezel away from the LCM you can use heat to make easier, but to get the digitizer away from the LCD itself remains a mystery to me.
Anybody get any other results?
OKAY..
Pics updated again...
I was able to get the digitizer apart from the LCD, using a razor.
for separate lcd and digitizer
For separate lcd and digitizer, I used nylo fisher string... and it work good... just right my problem is how to past new one ? neopren glue ?
Honestly, I plan on just adding a dot of super glue to each corner.
I believe most phone adhesives are a sylicon based glue.
It`s almost impossible to un-solder the digitizer away from the lcd, i have succeeded a few times whit hot air and very sharp cutter, but still broke 2 screens from 5...it has to be a solution for this...anyway 3 phones from 5 its not the best rate...
2 weeks ago it was raining so much that the whole parking was under water.
I jumped to my car and went home. Halfway I discovered that my phone was missing, so I went back and found it on the parking, laying under water for half an hour, 10 cm deep.
When I picked it up, even it was still under water the lock screen went on.
At home, after disassembly the phone, only under the battery cover where a few drops of water, futher the phone was dry. Even the headphone and micro-usb are no leaking path.
I use it now again for 2 weeks and it still works fine, without any trouble.
Bravo for HTC to make a phone, more than spashproof
brotsje said:
2 weeks ago it was raining so much that the whole parking was under water.
I jumped to my car and went home. Halfway I discovered that my phone was missing, so I went back and found it on the parking, laying under water for half an hour, 10 cm deep.
When I picked it up, even it was still under water the lock screen went on.
At home, after disassembly the phone, only under the battery cover where a few drops of water, futher the phone was dry. Even the headphone and micro-usb are no leaking path.
I use it now again for 2 weeks and it still works fine, without any trouble.
Bravo for HTC to make a phone, more than spashproof
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Yes, htc is the shizz! I just brought mine back to life and everything works after dropping it on the deep side of my pool. On cases like mine, taking it apart right away and putting it on a bowl of uncooked rice for a week(just to be sure) and it will dry it completely!
Alas mine wasn't so lucky, fell in a puddle as I got into the car, grabbed it out, turned it off and removed battery, sim and SD, wiped as much water off as I could with tissues.
Left it for 2 days to dry, nada. Might be that the impact with the ground (wasn't that deep a puddle) killed it.
Embarassingly and luckily I'd only taken insurance out on it that lunchtime!
Wow, that's pretty impressive for a phone. Touchscreen phones are usually prone to most types of damage, but it's good to see being fully submerged in water didn't completely disable the phone.
You lucky guy
Hmmmmmm
I'm a little dubious... I spilled a really small amount of water from a glass on the bedside table onto my HD2. Even though I immediately jumped out of bed, cursed and wiped it dry, the water seeped into it. I could see the water in the LCD (it looked like a shadow that spread across the screen slowly over days). Two weeks later, the digitizer stopped responding to my touch even though the LCD itself still seems to work. I've hard reset the handset and that hasn't helped. I also tried heating up the unit a bit (without the battery) to try to have the water evaporate from it, but that hasn't helped either.
I took the phone into O2 who had their people look at it. Ultimately they said it was out of warranty because of water damage and that I could purchase a replacement (since I don't have insurance on it).
I'm considering trying to replace the digitizer, but it sounds like a lot of fuss and ultimately the phone won't be under warranty.
Annoying... I miss my HD2. I'm stuck with a Motorola Razr at the moment.
You can drop the phone in anything... aslong as the water does not have minerals that are conductive or prone to errosion it will be fine
[OP] just happen to have some clean water falling from the sky
I had a Blackberry Storm that once got submergered in baby oil.. It stopped working and I left it alone for A month or so...One day i picked it up and it started working... The LCD was messed up with Oil in it but other then that it worked...I opened it up and there was baby oil everywhere.... Got some distalled water and let it sit for a day or so to get it clean then replaced the LCD and it worked like new.
Distalled Water is H20 with notthing in it... As clean as water can get... Sine it has no conductive minerals you can drop a phone or PSP and it will work just fine.
Really?
I thought water itself was corrosive to metal? I can't imagine that the rainwater mentioned in the first post would be as clean as distilled water...
Anyway, I was wondering do you guys have have any suggestions? I have this lovely phone that boots up and I can't do anything with.
Should I just wait it out and see if it starts working again.
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I thought water itself was corrosive to metal? I can't imagine that the rainwater mentioned in the first post would be as clean as distilled water...
Anyway, I was wondering do you guys have have any suggestions? I have this lovely phone that boots up and I can't do anything with.
Should I just wait it out and see if it starts working again.
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if it has clorine in the water then yea... most citys add a small amount of clorine in their water system......
the phone boots but its unresponsive?
we love stories
I dont want to THINK mine under water not to be under water NEVER
Hello guys,
today my hd2 fell on the floor and the display cracked. the lcd and touchscreen are still working fine, even in the area where its cracked.
Is there a chance just to replace only the plastic case on the lcd? Or do i have to completly renew it?
Thanks!
Nope, sorry.
There's no plastic display on the HTC, nor anything plastic. The LCD is soldered to the digitizer and normally both should be replaced. They cost around 100$, and the replacement is about 200$ in the HTC center. You do the math, it's the price for a sec hand HD2. Otherwise, you can buy and change the digitizer (costs around 50$). But this is a very delicate operation to do by our own -you have to cut the LCD from the cracked digitizer and do many other things. As someone have said for some other reason "it is an easy operation, but if you have no experience in soldering, do not try to learn it on your laptop motherboard". So, your choice is between repairing it in HTC for 200$ and "repairing" it some other service for 100$, with questionable quality and voiding your warranty.
As you may guess, I have walked that road already. My HD2 was 1 week old. After some sleepless nights (as I was wondering what to do AND because the "perfectly working cracked screen" had cut my fingers) I sold it 100-120€ under the second hand market price and found a new one. That's also my advice to you. I.e. the first one. The second one is to buy a silicon cover for your next HD2.
ingrdgrbl said:
Hello guys,
today my hd2 fell on the floor and the display cracked. the lcd and touchscreen are still working fine, even in the area where its cracked.
Is there a chance just to replace only the plastic case on the lcd? Or do i have to completly renew it?
Thanks!
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Last Friday night I had a little accident and my HD2 ended up spending some time in a river... I won't get in to details but the phone's been drying out ever since and I've got a torx T5 screwdriver on the way so I can take it apart if needed. I tried to turn it on earlier today and it actually seems to almost be working perfectly ; I've got sound, vibration, WP7 boots up just fine and the touch screen is as responsive as ever but the one problem I do have is the backlight. I can only see things on the screen in pitch darkness. From what I've read, it looks like I might have to buy a new LCD screen but before ordering parts I'd like to get a few opinions about what I should try to get it working properly again.
Thanks in advance.
NeoGreendawg said:
Last Friday night I had a little accident and my HD2 ended up spending some time in a river... I won't get in to details but the phone's been drying out ever since and I've got a torx T5 screwdriver on the way so I can take it apart if needed. I tried to turn it on earlier today and it actually seems to almost be working perfectly ; I've got sound, vibration, WP7 boots up just fine and the touch screen is as responsive as ever but the one problem I do have is the backlight. I can only see things on the screen in pitch darkness. From what I've read, it looks like I might have to buy a new LCD screen but before ordering parts I'd like to get a few opinions about what I should try to get it working properly again.
Thanks in advance.
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I'd try the bag-o-rice trick first, since even this late in the game I've heard that it can get the last moisture remnants out and solve some issues.
Sounds like the LCD needs to be replaced to me personally.
Thanks for the reply!
I've had it in a bowl of rice right next to a satellite decoder box (that gives off a little heat) ever since the accident so unless taking it apart completely (once I get my screwdriver) helps it looks like I'll need to buy some parts...
Would an LCD screen like this one be enough ?
http://cgi.ebay.fr/Original-LCD-Ecran-Display-Fit-HTC-TOUCH-HD2-II-T8585-/150427154446?pt=FR_Mobiles_PDAs_Autres&hash=item230628380e
Or do I need/would it be easier to replace with something like this LCD screen and touch screen ?
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ecran-TACTILE-LCD-assemble-pour-HTC-HD2-LEO-T8585-/120723712282?pt=FR_Mobiles_PDAs_Autres&hash=item1c1bb1a91a
Thanks again.
i will go defenitely for lcd + touch screen IF it comes mounted by factory... it will be very easy and more secure for your device.
but if you arent in hury wait 2-3 days just to make sure your phone its ok so you wouldnt i lose more money ( i work in a mobile shop service and wet phones have troubles after couple days if not at the beginning ), i hope everything turns ok .
Dim screen could also be caused by bad ic chip on the board that controls the display.
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Dim screen could also be caused by bad ic chip on the board that controls the display.
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What board exactly are you talking about? So do you think that changing the LCD and touch screen might not even solve my problem?
NeoGreendawg said:
What board exactly are you talking about? So do you think that changing the LCD and touch screen might not even solve my problem?
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Motherboard, but I would attempt lcd replacement 1st, if fails it the ic om motherboard.
i had water damage on 2 phones, both work fine. sun, zip lock bag with rice, hair dryer < that worked for me. i read that dipping phone in 100% alcohol also helps get water out. (when water drys up it leaves residue, alcohol doesnt)
ps. it can take up to a month for everything to 100% dry up. my iphone had glitches, then glitches went away.
Okay I dropped my phone and the screen cracked. Everything is fine except that the glass cracked. Ive seen videos on youtube on how to repair and I feel that I can do the repair but Im scared I might damage something like the digitizer. Is the digitizer easy to break? Should I try to repair it or should I just suck it up for a while?
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Okay I dropped my phone and the screen cracked. Everything is fine except that the glass cracked. Ive seen videos on youtube on how to repair and I feel that I can do the repair but Im scared I might damage something like the digitizer. Is the digitizer easy to break? Should I try to repair it or should I just suck it up for a while?
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From what I've seen the digitizer is very easy to break. You have to heat up the glass to loosen up the adhesive so you can separate it from the digitizer and if you're lucky enough to get it off without damaging the digitizer there's a good chance you're going to end up with bubbles under the replacement screen, especially if you've never done this sort of thing before.
Is it possible to fix? Definitely. Just don't be surprised if you end up needing a new digitizer as well.
If you're really wanting to fix it you'd be better off either buying a used S4 for parts (you can get one with a bad ESN pretty cheap) or just buy a new replacement digitizer/glass assembly and swap it out.
I bought a used S4 with a broken screen with plans on using it with TING. It had a single crack in the glass but the digitizer also had a single crack as well (and wouldn't display anything). I knew I'd have to replace the assembly but just for giggles I decided to try to separate the glass without damaging the digitizer further using a heat gun and although I was able to separate them I managed to crack the digitizer in several other places in the process. Granted I wasn't being extremely careful but still it seemed to break extremely easy.
The digitizer/glass assembly cost me about $200. I paid $200 for the phone. Then I found out it wouldn't even work with TING so I ended up selling it. After shipping, fees, etc I got about $335 taking a bath of about $65 on the project. Oh well live and learn.