Detroit area wireless speeds - Atrix 4G General

Tonight I did some speed tests and I am getting 6.7mbps downloads and 1.7 mbps uploads. I repeated the test a few times and download speeds are consistently over 6 mbps. Uploads will go up to 1.8 mbps and than drop to .28 or so. Wierd as I don't think these are 4g speds I am getting. At list in the menu it said I was on hsps.
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Sorry I meant hspa.
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Can anyone tell me if hspa is att 4g? How do I know if I am on 3g+ or not?
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HSPA is 3G (up to 7.2 Mbit/s)
HSPA+ is what AT&T called "4G" (actually, it is 3.75g, up to 42 Mbit/s)

Thanks for clarifying that. Now, is 4g working anywhere yet, or it hasn't been turned on?
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Anyone know why the speeds differ so much when connected to HSDPA and HSPA?
When my phone says connected to HSDPA, my downloads go from 1-3 and uploads are 0.20. But when connected to HSPA I get 3.1-7.2 down and 1.2-1.6 up. Pings are also lower with HSPA (130ms vs 250ms). And why do they switch so much? I could be in the same place with my phone getting good signal (-58db) and it would constantly switch connecting between HSDPA and HSPA.

cla2000 said:
Thanks for clarifying that. Now, is 4g working anywhere yet, or it hasn't been turned on?
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I would still like to know if 4g is on or not.
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It will be done region by region, there may be a couple of areas that have backhaul in place...the at&t shows my whole tri-state region is 4G* and I have yet to get above 3.5 MB/s down in any speed test I've done.

The 6-7mb/s range is right for 4g. The theoretical cap for our phone is 14.4, but you will never see those speeds (same as someone with verizon lte will never see 48mb/s). The most you will see with the atrix is probably going to be about 9mb/s if no one else is using the network. That's a huge improvement from 3-4mb/s though, and should be plenty fast for anything you can do on a wireless phone at this point.

But isn't there any way for me to check and see if I am actually on 4g or not.
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3G connection?

Is anyone else getting horrible 3G connections? I'm in Marietta, Ga. Im getting on average .34 mbps down and .23 up. On wifi at home I'm getting around 14.31 down and 4.00 up.
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Yeah I have pretty bad 3G coverage over here in NYC as well.
Mine seems to be pretty cool. It's just a cheap feeling phone with a not too strong antenna or something. I notice that when u are around a bad reception area... the phone doesn't hold up at all!
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lebron212 said:
Is anyone else getting horrible 3G connections? I'm in Marietta, Ga. Im getting on average .34 mbps down and .23 up. On wifi at home I'm getting around 14.31 down and 4.00 up.
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Congestion is the number one cause of slow 3G. Is Marietta going HSPA+?
To the others the OP isn't talking about coverage if you didn't understand.
No, I meant my 3G is slow because of the coverage I am having as well, lol.
I'm in nyc and get about 4.5mb up and 1.3 down...
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Just tested I'm getting about 3mb down/0.7 up in minneapolis, about the same as my g1
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Marietta is in metro atlanta. Atlanta went hspa+
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Nyc here getting bumped to edge speeds all the time. Really frustrating. Never had this issue with my G1.
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I am really on the fence on this at the moment. I do love the phone, but when I have my HD2 and my Vibrant in the same spot, holding them the same way, here in my office, the HD2 has a solid 4 bar 3G signal, whereas the Vibrant has 0 to 1 bar, switching between 3G and Edge back and forth.
I think I give it another few days, trying a few different locations, but was just wondering if anyone else experiences something like this, before I go through RMA'ing it and reinstalling everything, etc...
--Marcus
slow 3G in north county San Diego
I am very disappointed with Tmobile's 3G speed. With Good signal strength, it averages 0.75 mbps down 0.7 mbps up. Will this get better when HSPA+ is available?

Very slow 3g speeds in my Sprint Epic....barely reaching 300kbps

Hey all,
With nothing else running, no matter what area I am in and regardless of the browser I use, I max out at 300kbps. Average is about 150kbps! I am using the mobile test from DSL reports. I am in the metro Detroit area.
When I use the same test on my iphone, I always get at least 1,800 kpbs!!
What gives? I know a 3g fix was released months ago, but that was before I got my epic.
Any suggest?
Thanks in advance,
Matt!
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I know right? Is it the phone or sprint? In speedtest I get 126 kbps down.
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Sprint's 3g sucks. A few days ago I took my Epic in to the ATT, T-Mobile, and Verizon stores around. I did side by side tests with the Ookla speed test app on phones with similar hardware to the Epic. Every other network's 3g performed better than Sprint's when I tested them with multiple speed tests.
No matter where I am I rarely get above 500Kbps over 3g.
This was all in San Antonio so YMMV.
depends on location and signal strength
3g sucks in Louisiana too...hell a lot of areas around here are still 1X! On a normal day around town you are lucky to see anything about 80 kilobit. The phone is really useless for apps unless you have a wifi connection. I use force roam a lot to roam on vzw evdo anytime I need to stream or download something.
It's both Sprint and the Epic. Sprint has pretty bad 3G speeds compared to other providers but the Epic makes it a lot worse. It has real sh*tty radios all around. My friend has an Evo and it gets double the speed (both up and down) in the same spot as me.
Its theepics radio.
The ping is horrible too.
I tested sidebyside with my sisters iphone 4, and her ping was 19ms. The epics? 200. Tried on wimax, the difference?about 20ms lower.
Did the test on my friends hero, his ping was 30ms and was pulling 2mbdown 1 up
Epic was 300 down on 3g and on wimax was 3mb down.
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digiblur said:
3g sucks in Louisiana too...hell a lot of areas around here are still 1X! On a normal day around town you are lucky to see anything about 80 kilobit. The phone is really useless for apps unless you have a wifi connection. I use force roam a lot to roam on vzw evdo anytime I need to stream or download something.
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It's strange, in the NOLA area my friend and I do speed tests in different areas in the city (pinging the same server). I get maybe 80kBs down and ~50kBs up (Pings ranging from 133 to 200+ milliseconds). My friend ends up getting ~200kBs down and ~700kBs up.
Of course those numbers vary, but my phone hit 200kBs 1 out of 75 pings. All others were less than 100kBs up/down.
I bring my phone into Sprint for service and the techie decides to compare speeds by bringing up the same website (MSN.com). It felt like it was a waste of time as both phones pulled the site up near the same time. I just don't understand this instability with pings and speeds in our area.
FYI: Be careful with data roaming. We are capped at 300MB a month for data roaming. Anything over is $0.25/MB.
KillerQ said:
Hey all,
With nothing else running, no matter what area I am in and regardless of the browser I use, I max out at 300kbps. Average is about 150kbps! I am using the mobile test from DSL reports. I am in the metro Detroit area.
When I use the same test on my iphone, I always get at least 1,800 kpbs!!
What gives? I know a 3g fix was released months ago, but that was before I got my epic.
Any suggest?
Thanks in advance,
Matt!
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Are you sure that you're actually on 3G service? Those speeds sound like 1xRTT. Your phone WILL NOT tell you that you're not in a 3G area. Only way to find this is in the phone's service menu. So, I repeat, your phone may read "3G", but you are infact probably using 1xRTT, not 3G (Ev-DO). 125kbit/s is average for 1xRTT.
Can you please share the method for getting into said service menu and how to check? This will be interesting to find if its in 1x or not ...
Thanks again
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KillerQ said:
Can you please share the method for getting into said service menu and how to check? This will be interesting to find if its in 1x or not ...
Thanks again
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Settinggs> About Phone
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Also, does anyone know what dbm and asu is? I have 4 bars and its 86dbm and 0asu and idk what that means lol
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Oh....I thought you meant the ## menus. I did look there but saw nothing referring to 3g or 1x.
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Settinggs> About Phone
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So where exactly do you see this on your phone within that menu? I've been looking between the "About Phone" menu and the "About Phone >> Status" menu, still don't see anything stating which network connection I'm using.
sorry, in the hero it would tell you in the status section whether you were on 1xrtt, 1x, EvDO Rev. 0 or EvDO Rev. A
The epic doesn't seem to have that :/ it just states If you're connected to the mobile networ
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Try *#INFO*1111# (*#4636*1111#) and choose Phone Information, under Network Type
Yay that worked! Yup I'm in evdo rev a and getting horrible speeds
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Can you please share the method for getting into said service menu and how to check? This will be interesting to find if its in 1x or not ...
Thanks again
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Koadic said:
Try *#INFO*1111# (*#4636*1111#) and choose Phone Information, under Network Type
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What Koadic said. They disabled the standard *#*#INFO#*#* that used to work on previous phones. You now need to append the *1111 and remove a couple of the *s and #s.
Be happy.
I get 30-50kbs down, but only when it works. Most of the time the connection times out.
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Yay that worked! Yup I'm in evdo rev a and getting horrible speeds
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Same here.

HSDPA 3G or 4G?

Just checking but when your network status says HSDPA that is not considered "4G" right? More like enhanced 3G correct?
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you're right ! but if u have a 4g phone like the mt4g, g2, samsung vibrant4g, etc.
you will get the full hsdpa+ 4g network. so u don't have to worry if it says 4g or just H, or hsdpa in settingsettings info. I can tell the difference with my mt4g compared to mytouch3g. both says H on the notification bar & HSDPA but the speeds for the mt4g is way faster!
The terminology is branding more than anything else. hsdpa is t-mobile's high speed protocol for 3g, but they call it 4g because, well, pretty much everyone has jumped the gun on calling their networks 4g.
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Just checking but when your network status says HSDPA that is not considered "4G" right? More like enhanced 3G correct?
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Someone chime in and correct me if i'm wrong
By definition 4G has to meet 100Mbps on download during peak times. HSPA+, LTE, Wi-Max do not meet these requirements as of currently. And every thing is enhanced 3G.
If you look at it from a "G" = Generation Standpoint we are in the 4th Generation of Mobile Broadband technology. 1: GRPS 2:EDGE 3:HSPA 4:HSPA+. So it really depends on which side of the coin you look. and to really get the idea of it
HSPA = High Speed Packet Access
HSDPA = High Speed Download Packet Access
HSUPA = High Speed Upload Packet Access
If i'm correct typically your phone is considered HSPA if you have HSDPA and HSUPA activated. But if you are on lets say AT&T with the Atrix, they consider that a HSDPA+ phone, because the upload end of things are still as slow as 3G or below.
Well hsdpa will have about 8-10 mbps theoretical download speed. Where later this year T-Mobile is releasing hspa + to have up to 42 mbps download and technically it can be upgraded in to the 100's of mbps.
So personally I would call it 3g
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Someone chime in and correct me if i'm wrong
By definition 4G has to meet 100Mbps on download during peak times.
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I thought it was 1gig
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I was checking because I was wondering if I was getting what I paid for or not.
I put quotes around the 4G because there is some debate about whether it is or not. I really believe its not. Whether it meets standards or not it doesn't bother me because I reallyyyy don't need 100mbps on a phone. Tethering on the other hand....
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TMobiles HSPA+ network is considered 4G by the ITU, which says what should be called 4G. It wasn't originally fast enought, but they changed their mind and said that WiMax, LTE, AND HSPA+ are technically 4G. http://www.intomobile.com/2010/12/18/itu-reverses-its-decision-lte-wimax-and-hspa-are-now-4g/
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I thought it was 1gig
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Network speed isn't really measured in gigs..
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Improved 3G speeds in Florida!!

Recently i have noticed that sprints 3G speeds have dramatically improved.back then i would get 700-800kbps speeds now I'm getting 1-2MBps sppeds here in Miami.Also my 4G speeds have also improved and signal too.
UPDATE:I have NOT edited the 3G proxy everything is default
I will post screenshots later
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fadimo305 said:
Recently i have noticed that sprints 3G speeds have dramatically improved.back then i would get 700-800kbps speeds now I'm getting 1-2MBps sppeds here in Miami.Also my 4G speeds have also improved and signal too.
I will post screenshots later
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Sounds good, there's no doubt that the data issues have been improved in a lot of areas.
Hasn't made its way to Jax yet, lol.
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Chicago 3G speeds also took that same jump bout 4 months ago...
4G has also really improved just recently...not so much that's its faster, but signal remains much more consistantly.
Am much happier.
Lucky you. My 3G is still as fast as a frozen glacier.
Edit: Even you previous 700-800 kb speeds are 3 times faster than what I get.
rugedraw said:
Lucky you. My 3G is still as fast as a frozen glacier.
Edit: Even you previous 700-800 kb speeds are 3 times faster than what I get.
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Update your PRL and Roam,Sprint has Amazing Roaming Speeds on 3G
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Update your PRL and Roam,Sprint has Amazing Roaming Speeds on 3G
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I have the latest PRL, but the "amazing roaming speeds" are because you are running off of Verizon towers when you're roaming.......it has nothing to do with Sprint.
Edit: Also, I don't want to force the phone to roam on Verizon in any way. Hopefully some of whatever you're getting comes my way sooner than later.
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Yea im also getting like 5-6mbps down on 4g before it was like 3-3.5
My 3G speeds in Orlando are kinda slow. Roaming or not, they are actually a little slower when roaming. So I just use 4G as often as I possibly can.
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Yeah figured 3G would pick up when customers are jumping ship. hahahahahahah
MY speeds in Jacksonville (Right along the line of ST Augustine) has increased GREATLY! My speeds went from 50-80 kpbs to 1800-220 kbps DL. And about 10 kbps upload, now 550 (on average). It's great! Beats Verizon's speed @ my house (tested w/ a friend's HTC Eris).
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MY speeds in Jacksonville (Right along the line of ST Augustine) has increased GREATLY! My speeds went from 50-80 kpbs to 1800-220 kbps DL. And about 10 kbps upload, now 550 (on average). It's great! Beats Verizon's speed @ my house (tested w/ a friend's HTC Eris).
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Damn. Maybe I need to flash back to sense and try to update my profile. Just did it like a month ago. Haven't seen a new one released :/
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There is a great deal of work being done on a great many of the Florida sites to improve speed, capacity and overall experience. Glad its being noticed.
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I have the latest PRL, but the "amazing roaming speeds" are because you are running off of Verizon towers when you're roaming.......it has nothing to do with Sprint.
Edit: Also, I don't want to force the phone to roam on Verizon in any way. Hopefully some of whatever you're getting comes my way sooner than later.
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my 1-2mbps speeds are not on roaming but on sprints normal network
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jayharper08 said:
Damn. Maybe I need to flash back to sense and try to update my profile. Just did it like a month ago. Haven't seen a new one released :/
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Good idea..........I haven't tried updating the profile.
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my 1-2mbps speeds are not on roaming but on sprints normal network
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Oh, ok.....I must have misunderstood what you typed earlier.
My max speeds when roaming hit 250 kbps, because when you roam, Verizon only shares their 2G (not 3G) speeds.
i'm in melbourne ,has anyone else noticed they can connect to wi
max?????running decks 2.3.4 and cm7 both upon booting automatically start 4 g and to my surpise lately it connects but gives different I.P. addresses.anyone else???
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My max speeds when roaming hit 250 kbps, because when you roam, Verizon only shares their 2G (not 3G) speeds.
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I'm able to get 3G roaming on Verizon. It's also double the speeds of sprint. I am using PRl 01115. it's nice
Marlowr05 said:
I'm able to get 3G roaming on Verizon. It's also double the speeds of sprint. I am using PRl 01115. it's nice
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Yes indeed VZW 3g is nice. Sprint in Louisiana is horrible...20 kilobit to 50 kilobits for me. Data is useless unless I force roam.
My speeds in Tallahassee were great for about the first 4-6 months of owning the phone, now it's merely decent and there's been no improvement.

Sprint 3g speeds

Much improved! I'm now getting just over 2 Mbps. Now just need ICS and this phone will be good to go for a couple more years...
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Lucky, I get 50~400 kbps
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I've been getting great speeds as well.
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What happened that led to these faster speeds all of the sudden?
Thanks,
Matt!
Sprint is upgrading their 3G network in advance of the iPhone launch next week. thisismynext.com had a few articles about it. I think it's both adding towers, and moving voice to a different frequency so data is not so congested.
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Its called sprint network vision. Nothing to do with the iPhone.
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The timing of the rollout of the network upgrades has everything to do with the iPhone--specifically, with being ready for the heavy additional traffic that will hit their data network as soon as they release the iPhone. Sprint said that specifically in their conference on Friday. Can you imagine the bad press Sprint would get if reviewers compared 3G speeds of the 3 carriers of the iPhone 4S and Sprint was showing <400 kbps?
Ouch I forgot how bad sprint 3g was 5mbps on Tmobile 3g and almost 9 on hspa.
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Wish I was getting speeds like that. I just ran a speakeasy test and got .2 mbps with full 3g bars. It has been like that for several weeks. Hope the upgrades hit metro detroit soon.
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Wish I was getting speeds like that. I just ran a speakeasy test and got .2 mbps with full 3g bars. It has been like that for several weeks. Hope the upgrades hit metro detroit soon.
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Same **** here in Miami. I called earlier about it and it didn't really get anywhere.
where are you located
I'm in Charlotte. It's true Sprint has slower 3G than T-Mobile, but of course we have 4G too. It's really only inside buildings that I'm on 3G, and my experience is most people's phones on other networks don't get reception at all inside.
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Much improved! I'm now getting just over 2 Mbps. Now just need ICS and this phone will be good to go for a couple more years...
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What are you getting for a ping? Download ping off the market and run a continuous ping to Google.com. I get 1mbit down with a fluctuating ping between 80-130ms. Spikes up past 400 once in a blue. Its not stable whatsoever. Pisses me off. I'd be able to enjoy this bf3 beta a bit better lol
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How about a change in radios? Might that help?
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dwielunski said:
I'm in Charlotte. It's true Sprint has slower 3G than T-Mobile, but of course we have 4G too. It's really only inside buildings that I'm on 3G, and my experience is most people's phones on other networks don't get reception at all inside.
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Highest i ever saw on wimax was 10mbps which I can almost hit on good hspa. :/
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If I had consistant access to 10mbps I would be fine with wimax. There is only one wimax tower near me me and its coverage stops about a mile from my home. Even when I can connect to it I have only seen speeds up to 7mbps, with 5 being the norm. Heck, I would even be fine with that if the coverage was even mediocre. However, the 4g coverage is atrocious around me and is unusable unless you are outside. Sprint has there work cut out for them, i think it will be years before we see any fast, reliable speeds. I just hope metro detroit is one of the first areas they upgrade since they hosed us on the wimax coverage, but I'm not holding my breath as I would think they would start upgrading towers before building new ones. Ill just have to keep taking comfort in the fact that my bill is half as much as it would be on verizon.lol
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Ping is in the low 100s on 3G. Actually a lot more consistent on 3G than wifi. What are those numbers supposed to be if you have "good" service?
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Ping is in the low 100s on 3G. Actually a lot more consistent on 3G than wifi. What are those numbers supposed to be if you have "good" service?
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CDMA EVDO Rev. A is capped at 3.1mbps, on paper. Where GSM 3G is at 7.2mbps. Technically, in good coverage, I should see at least 700kbps on Sprints 3G. Unfortunately for me, Sprints network is horrid.
I tried the NS4G under Sprint's trial (about 5 months ago). I couldn't even watch Slingbox or hardly stream anything due to the slow rev.A CDMA network.
I ran back to my AT&T NS.
I'm sure the network Vision project will bring good things, as will AT&T's (and Verizon's) network upgrades, but Sprint simply is not there yet.
Shame cause I like the way they roll. That and the fact that I had Sprint for many years until the O.G. iPhone came out on AT&T (been with AT&T since then). I've always wanted to return to Sprint, but I just can't given the slow 3G speeds currently. Plus it's nice to use simultaneous data and voice.
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