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Hey guys. I hate making my first post a really noobie question but here it goes.
I just updated my rooted Xperia Play to 2.3.3 and it erased and/or re-wrote all of my system apps. I stupidly converted some of my downloaded apps into system apps using Titanium (because system apps turn red on the list. It helped me quickly figure out what was external and what was internal. Stupid, yes, and more trouble then it was actually worth.) so those apps were lost. Didn't matter, I had backups but I lost my root so I couldn't access them.
Forgetting what I used to root my phone originally I decided to use z4root after reading about it somewhere. The site I got it from is usually trust worthy but when I downloaded the file my OfficeScan (its a school bought computer) warned me of a potential virus threat. I wrote it off as just the pop-up ad and un-zipped and transferred the file to my phone. I still am not sure if it was a virus or not... Running z4root it got up to "acquiring shell root..." or something like that before kicking me back to the home screen with no change. I, again, stupidly, re-ran it several times without rebooting between each attempt. Giving up I then realized to reboot. Strangely rebooting was A LOT faster then it was usually is and I don't know if that was z4 or 2.3.3.
Anyway I remembered that I used Gingerbreak last time and re-installed that. I made several attempts with that with no change either. Too many to count, but at least more than 8. Several attempts I got a call or a text and, checking them, ended the process. 2 attempts I left running for about half an hour (I know that the instructions say it will never take more then 10 minutes) and some I ended with a battery pull after more then 10mins(as per instruction).
So I guess I have several questions:
1. How bad did I f* up, If I did so?
2. Any suggestions on how to re-root/fix it?
3. Will switching to an empty SD card, successfully rooting it, and switching back to the full card still keep the root?
4. Does an in phone factory reset work the same as flashing the same rom or will I need to actually flash that new rom?
5. If I do need to flash, where can I find a regular Play rom? Or do you have suggestions about a better rom?
6. Is the fast reboot the work of the half done, possibly a virus, z4root process or just the 2.3.3 update?
7.Lastly Was this tl and you ;dr?
Normally, I wouldn't care if there was no fix; My phone boots much faster, I didn't lose all my apps and only some apps launch a little slower then before. But I made tons of progress on Zenonia 2 and I want my back ups for that... lol.
Any help appreciated. Also thanks for putting up with a noob that's writing way to formally
1. Messing with the system apps, and not backing them up probably caused you to not have an OTA update. I'm guessing you flashed it? Not restoring anything and not doing an OTA was mistake number one. Trying to use z4root was mistake number 2.
2. Get the generic UK firmware from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097591
-Flash that with Bin4ry and Androxhyde's flashtool
-Put in your carrier's APN settings, configure your google account, wifi etc. etc.
-Get Gingerbreak 1.2, run it(I used Astro to open the apk, and you need uunknown sources enabled).
Gingerbreak only worked for me when I formatted an SD card right before running it. I used a spare that was lying around, not the usual one with all my data, and I suggest you do the same if you kept your titanium backups. Hopefully you'll get rooted after about 3-5 minutes. Do not mess with any apps/bloatware after you have the root.
-After you have root, go into the settings menu and start an OTA update.
You should now have 2.3.3 WITH root.
-Once the phone is updated, install Titanium Backup and start backing up your old apps from before you messed up the phone and lost root.
-At this point feel free to remove the bloatware, but make sure you back it up in titanium for later.
3. Switching SD cards won't affect root at all.
4. A factory reset will reset whatever ROM was installed last. In other words, you can't revert back to 2.3.2 with a reset, it'll just reset 2.3.3 - It's really just for wiping data and settings.
5.The regular play ROM is the UK generic I posted above. The only "better" roms are customs that you need an unlocked bootloader to install. Currently they're still buggy and in development and not worth getting unless you like incomplete ROMs with bugs, and wanna lose the ability to update normally. Both OTA updates and the Sony Ericsson Update Service will brick your phone once the bootloader's unlocked.
6. My phone was booting a bit faster after updating to 2.3.3, and became even faster after removing some bloatware.
-Root doesn't speed up the boot process.
-I highly doubt an Android phone would have a virus that makes it boot faster, it's probably just from the update.
7. No, it wasn't. No, I didn't.
Thanks for the (semi-)quick response. Been browsing around the web with this tab open, constantly refreshing like a creep. I'll try your advice soon but its like 3am, just wanted to say thanks and love your Stocking pic.
Btw is there a difference between A US, UK or CAN rom or do those even exist?
The only real differences are carrier specific apps, and some versions have different games installed.
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Seems like I was to late to flash and the link to the rom you gave me may have been updated to 2.3.3 as well. I was looking for a Canada/Rodgers rom anyway but the forum search isn't turning up anything and google seems to hate me...
Help anyone?
The link was for 2.3.2 in the generic.
The only rogers rom available is for 2.3.3 so you won't be getting root without an unlocked bootloader with that one.
Just follow the directions and it should be fine.
The rogers apps are available in the android market separately.
Sent from my R800
I keep getting notifications about an ota update for 4.3. It's about 16 MB. When I get sick of seeing it and hit install the phone reboots into recovery where I then get a warning about an unverified package. I then get chicken and don't wow it to install and reboot (it asks to fix root then to for some reason)
Is this safe to install? If not, can I make it stop telling me there is a system update available?
I am on stock rooted MK2 with TWRP recovery installed. I woke up this morning to see that my phone had automatically downloaded the new system sfotware(i assume 4.4.2). The notification cant be removed from the notification bar and just says click to install. i dont want 4.4.2. My wife updated her s4 and it caused all sorts of minor issues with it. She was not rooted however. How can I get rid of the downloaded update and the notification? Also, is there a setting I can change so it wont try to automatically download updates in the future?
thanks
dbenney said:
I am on stock rooted MK2 with TWRP recovery installed. I woke up this morning to see that my phone had automatically downloaded the new system sfotware(i assume 4.4.2). The notification cant be removed from the notification bar and just says click to install. i dont want 4.4.2. My wife updated her s4 and it caused all sorts of minor issues with it. She was not rooted however. How can I get rid of the downloaded update and the notification? Also, is there a setting I can change so it wont try to automatically download updates in the future?
thanks
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Im sure I will be needing the same information as I am still on 4.3 and want to stay here also, I can tell you I had the same thing with my Galaxy S2 and I remember I had to do something in Titanium backup to stop the update process, but I cant remember the exact steps.
I will be watching this thread closely, Thanks for asking the question!
Search fellas. On the notification . press and hold it. Then you should get a popup of "app info" select it and uncheck "show notification". This will get rid of the annoying update notifications. You can also delete the file from system although I am forgetting right now where.
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Search fellas. On the notification . press and hold it. Then you should get a popup of "app info" select it and uncheck "show notification". This will get rid of the annoying update notifications. You can also delete the file from system although I am forgetting right now where.
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Did that and deleted the file! It downloads it back and the notifications resurrects again.
I froze Configupdater, Sprint Installer, System Update
Disabled System Update on start up.
Dunno what else can stop this OTA notification!!
For me it's even more dangerous because I have the 720T running sacs for 720, hence the update that the system is trying to intsall is the NAE not NAF.
To be on safe side I'm thinking unroot and get to stock MK5 then upgrade to NAF then flash sacs again. This way the update notification will go away. Tedious but thats the only way I think I can get rid of this annoying notification.
Any thoughts?? Keep in mind I'm on 720T
frukyyy said:
Did that and deleted the file! It downloads it back and the notifications resurrects again.
I froze Configupdater, Sprint Installer, System Update
Disabled System Update on start up.
Dunno what else can stop this OTA notification!!
For me it's even more dangerous because I have the 720T running sacs for 720, hence the update that the system is trying to intsall is the NAE not NAF.
To be on safe side I'm thinking unroot and get to stock MK5 then upgrade to NAF then flash sacs again. This way the update notification will go away. Tedious but thats the only way I think I can get rid of this annoying notification.
Any thoughts?? Keep in mind I'm on 720T
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interesting... I had recently ODIN'd back to stock and saferoot'd before calling it a day and woke up in the morning to an update. I also know that the update only downloads if you're on wi-fi. I know before I ODIN'd I was already saferoot'd with a whole bunch of crapware "frozen" by TiBackup and I never got the update. not exactly sure which crapware I froze, but I did it again this time around and I still haven't seen an update message for the past week. below is a list of what I froze... if you have the time to weed out the exact crapware needed to disable the update, please let me know! would be nice to uninstall the crapware that wont affect the update from happening while cleaning up the rest of the crapware.
1Weather
ANT HAL Service
ANT Radio Service
ANT+ Plugins
BaconReader
BlurbCheckout
Bubbles
CBS Sports
com.sec.enterprise.knox.attestation
com.sec.knox.eventsmanager
eBay
EpsonPrintService
Flipboard
Google Play Books
Google Play Games
Google Play Magazines
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Music
Group Play
HP Print Service Plugin
KLMS Agent
KNOX
KNOX Store
Lookout Security
Lumen Toolbar
Messaging+
Mobeam Service Application
Mobile Print
MobilePrintSvc_CUPS
MobilePrintSvc_CUPS_Backend
Phase Beam
Samsung Apps Widget
Samsung Books
Samsung Games
Samsung Hub
Samsung Music
Samsung Print Service
Samsung Video
Samsung WatchON
Samsung WatchON Video
SamsungHub Updater
Share music
Share video
Smart Device Manager
SNS
Sprint - Discover Apps
Sprint Music Plus
Sprint TV & Movies
Story Album
Story Album Widget
TalkBack
Weather Widget
Yahoo! Finance
Yahoo! News
looks like the inevitable just happened... with all the above items turned off/frozen, I still got the OTA download last night! I'm rooted with the hotspot mod and despite all of that, the OTA still came through. the update is located in /cache.
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looks like the inevitable just happened... with all the above items turned off/frozen, I still got the OTA download last night! I'm rooted with the hotspot mod and despite all of that, the OTA still came through. the update is located in /cache.
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Indeed! I gave up on OTA block. The only way I can think of if you stop all framework notifications, but I dont want to do that. Got to NAF and CF rooted. Waiting for stable KK before trying it on 720T. I don't care for sparks.
As of last night I hadn't received the OTA update yet, so I decided to try to fend it off buy freezing the system update in titanium backup... I swear I'm at 10 minutes went by and I can I receive the OTA notification! So now it looks like I'm in the same boat right next to you...lol
As I said earlier back in my S2 days I remember having to freeze the "System Update" with Titanium, but I think I also remember having to boot into recovery and Wipe a cache or something, because something is placed in the cache that looks to see if the update was downloaded and installed, and if not just keeps downloading until it is. So the steps that I do remember are;
1) Freeze system update with titanium.
2) Delete downloaded system files (I'm not sure where they are located, so please help me out with this one)
3) Boot into recovery and wipe a cache or two (I can't recall if it was one or more then one, and/or which one) so maybe someone could help with that?
I am going to do some searching for the S2 instructions to see if I can find them, maybe they will help with this.... Not sure if the update process is still the same though.
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As of last night I hadn't received the OTA update yet, so I decided to try to fend it off buy freezing the system update in titanium backup... I swear I'm at 10 minutes went by and I can I receive the OTA notification! So now it looks like I'm in the same boat right next to you...lol
As I said earlier back in my S2 days I remember having to freeze the "System Update" with Titanium, but I think I also remember having to boot into recovery and Wipe a cache or something, because something is placed in the cache that looks to see if the update was downloaded and installed, and if not just keeps downloading until it is. So the steps that I do remember are;
1) Freeze system update with titanium.
2) Delete downloaded system files (I'm not sure where they are located, so please help me out with this one)
3) Boot into recovery and wipe a cache or two (I can't recall if it was one or more then one, and/or which one) so maybe someone could help with that?
I am going to do some searching for the S2 instructions to see if I can find them, maybe they will help with this.... Not sure if the update process is still the same though.
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as I stated in my last post, the downloaded update file is located in /cache. for the time being I've deleted that file and created a zero-byte file with the same name and its permissions set to read only. not sure what's going to happen if I try to update with an empty file or if I reboot, but I have it this way to hopefukky assure me that if I accidentally press update that it won't update successfully. I doubt cleaning up the OTA downloads will prevent it from downloading again unless you can somehow fake your version number.
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as I stated in my last post, the downloaded update file is located in /cache. for the time being I've deleted that file and created a zero-byte file with the same name and its permissions set to read only. not sure what's going to happen if I try to update with an empty file or if I reboot, but I have it this way to hopefukky assure me that if I accidentally press update that it won't update successfully. I doubt cleaning up the OTA downloads will prevent it from downloading again unless you can somehow fake your version number.
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Doesn't sound like a bad idea! But I can't believe there isn't a fix for this out there though. In my research I found a file for the S2 called fota-killer, you would think something like that wild be available for the S4.
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As of last night I hadn't received the OTA update yet, so I decided to try to fend it off buy freezing the system update in titanium backup... I swear I'm at 10 minutes went by and I can I receive the OTA notification! So now it looks like I'm in the same boat right next to you...lol
As I said earlier back in my S2 days I remember having to freeze the "System Update" with Titanium, but I think I also remember having to boot into recovery and Wipe a cache or something, because something is placed in the cache that looks to see if the update was downloaded and installed, and if not just keeps downloading until it is. So the steps that I do remember are;
1) Freeze system update with titanium.
2) Delete downloaded system files (I'm not sure where they are located, so please help me out with this one)
3) Boot into recovery and wipe a cache or two (I can't recall if it was one or more then one, and/or which one) so maybe someone could help with that?
I am going to do some searching for the S2 instructions to see if I can find them, maybe they will help with this.... Not sure if the update process is still the same though.
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OK I tried the fotakill.apk method and so far I have not received the notification like I was eveytime I rebooted earlier go to here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30205683&postcount=1 for the instructions I used and a link to the file.... I used the manual method rather then installing the zip thru recovery because they said the zip method is device specific..... I'll stop back in a couple days to update how it's working or b4 that if it doesn't!
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OK I tried the fotakill.apk method and so far I have not received the notification like I was eveytime I rebooted earlier go to here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30205683&postcount=1 for the instructions I used and a link to the file.... I used the manual method rather then installing the zip thru recovery because they said the zip method is device specific..... I'll stop back in a couple days to update how it's working or b4 that if it doesn't!
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24 hours and still no update message!
OK it's been 4 or do days and this fix worked for me, we have not heard anything from the thread starter so I assume he has also fixed his, thanks for the help guys!
I didnt see a thread already but my G3 started downloading an update this morning without me accepting or saying anything at all. Obviously with Root and TWRP(Bump) I did not want this. I pulled down the notification bar long pressed on the update download, hit app info, then force stopped the app. I went into Titanium backup, made a backup of System Updates 1_13_10_0 then uninstalled it. I don't know if the download will come back but I don't think so. Also the update was 220ish MB and I have no issues with the phone after uninstalling this. Sorry I didnt get a chance to take a picture of the update since it was almost done lol.
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I have the System Updates App frozen in Ti BU. Haven't gotten any hint of an update and I hope it stays that way.
Same thing happened to me it tried installing the update all on its own luckily it said waiting for wifi network to update so I froze the system updates app with titanium back up.
RyanEJ25, I experienced the same thing as you. I have a Verizon LG G3 (vs985), rooted.
Trying to get more info on this system update and what it contains. I don't think it's Android 5.0 lollipop update, but more like a Verizon bug update/improvements.
I tried to run the system update that was downloaded via WIFI, but it failed due to my LG g3 being rooted.
Before I go down the path of backing everything, unrooting and upgrading and then re-rooting, just wanted to make sure the update is worthwhile.
-Kevin
RyanEJ25 said:
I didnt see a thread already but my G3 started downloading an update this morning without me accepting or saying anything at all. Obviously with Root and TWRP(Bump) I did not want this. I pulled down the notification bar long pressed on the update download, hit app info, then force stopped the app. I went into Titanium backup, made a backup of System Updates 1_13_10_0 then uninstalled it. I don't know if the download will come back but I don't think so. Also the update was 220ish MB and I have no issues with the phone after uninstalling this. Sorry I didnt get a chance to take a picture of the update since it was almost done lol.
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trailrunner76 said:
RyanEJ25, I experienced the same thing as you. I have a Verizon LG G3 (vs985), rooted.
Trying to get more info on this system update and what it contains. I don't think it's Android 5.0 lollipop update, but more like a Verizon bug update/improvements.
I tried to run the system update that was downloaded via WIFI, but it failed due to my LG g3 being rooted.
Before I go down the path of backing everything, unrooting and upgrading and then re-rooting, just wanted to make sure the update is worthwhile.
-Kevin
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The main thing that threw me off was that USB charge modes have changed. Charge and internet connection are removed from PC connections other than that its general improvements to the keyboard and docs and stuff.
You can temp unroot, take the update, then reroot assuming Verizon didn't load a bullet that kills root.
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I'd tend to avoid the update, at least for now, if you want to keep root and twrp. Seems to be a number of people mentioning issues, including trouble reverting to 10b.
I also froze "System updates" with TiBU, going to stay on 10b until things clear up. Freezing that app seems to do the trick.
Why are you posting here, instead of the Verizon forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general
If you take the update, you can't re-root and you can't roll back.
Some people have maintained root after updating.
First of all, I know you just can't update modified stock ROMs with OTA updates, it's just that Huawei Updater keeps downloading the OTA Update and prompts me to install it every other time I awake my phone. Just wanted to know if there's any way to stop it from trying to update the phone, maybe killing a service or something. Also, I believe this constant waking is swallowing my battery, since Android OS is on top.
Potentially dangerous but you can Find the app and freeze it with titanium, or even uninstall it
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First of all, I know you just can't update modified stock ROMs with OTA updates, it's just that Huawei Updater keeps downloading the OTA Update and prompts me to install it every other time I awake my phone. Just wanted to know if there's any way to stop it from trying to update the phone, maybe killing a service or something. Also, I believe this constant waking is swallowing my battery, since Android OS is on top.
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Go to settings,updates, in options there you have two things to slide them off. Do it. Then close that notification. Thats all