I was in a Verizon Wireless store today getting the incredible 2 for my sister, and I noticed the fascinate was gone...I asked the guy about it and he said that they sent all of their fascinates back because there were too many people coming back with problems. He said 50% of people with the fascinate come back in the store and end up having to have their phones replaced. It seems like a pretty short lived run for the fascinate...September 2010 to May 2011? Also, I feel like I got dicked and now I'm stuck with this thing...I want the incredible 2! I guess there'a always new phones coming out so I'd never be satisfied, but I really don't think the fascinate is as bad as some people make it out to be on the forums...haven't had problems with GPS, battery life, voodoo lagfix seems to fix the lag problem...not until recently did the data problems start.
Btw I'm now one of the 50% that's had to have my fascinate replaced...
Mine is working great but my wife keeps getting bad ones but I don't think that verizon would take them out of stores because in like the last hour watching tv I have seen the commercial like 4 times.
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Were you at a Corp store or 3rd party retailer? Also, even if it was a Corp store, whatever the salesman said is likely completely made up and nothing that VZW would have stated officially.
I just saw a VZW commercial promoting the Fascinate; I just got mine about 1 week ago and I'm loving it... no issues here. (Knocking on wood)
Sounds like a isolated incident. I was just in a Verizon store and they had them there. It's the mothers day promotional item, its still got a while to go. Probably until the sgs2, or some iteration of it hits the shelves.
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On my fourth, personally. My wife's and son's have been fine since day one, and I think the fourth one is finally a good one, but yeah...these things are unreliable as hell.
Cannot wait until I can replace it.
Little off topic, I'm completely satisfied with my fascinate delivered on Sept 9th and no issues really but would you recommend to a friend...STOCK? I suggested Nexus S since he is on Sprint but he likes mine...go figure
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Why the hell would you want a more expensive phone with a crappier screen, slower GPU, and totally locked bootloader that's prevented the international version from even getting permanent root many weeks after release!?
Incredible 2 is for suckers.
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Why the hell would you want a more expensive phone with a crappier screen, slower GPU, and totally locked bootloader that's prevented the international version from even getting permanent root many weeks after release!?
Incredible 2 is for suckers.
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Well when you put it that way...
I guess I was referring to newer phones in general. I'd probably wait for the Droid Charge, but I'd be a little shaky going to LTE at this point.
I played with the charge a little today....... think of a fatter bigger and uglier fascinate.. even the back cover is the same slick material, I'm holding my upgrade for vzw sgs2 variant
I've been KANGBANGED!!!!!
Us Fascinate owners should know better than to believe a VZ rep by now so come on.. Sales are still going strong for it at the wireless kiosk in the retail store I work at, most people i know end up rooting and rom-ing it anyway so I haven't heard any problems from them.. As for myself and my SF well there's been a few mistakes due to trial and error but overrall its a great phone and I love it.
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Only reason to get a charge is the fact that its a droid. Vzw will show it love as opposed to us. :-\
I was in a Verizon corporate store just yesterday, I think I saw 3 live fascinate display models and 2 fascinate dummies! I think it's gonna be a while before we see it phased out. Btw, I'm selling mine to pay for the t-bolt I bought while I was there yesterday. PM me if interested.
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+10 million the fascinate I'd still at the top.. I dunno how ppl r so unsatisfied.... Go buy an iphone
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EDIT: heard a mothers day commercial promoting the fascinate this morning
If I had a T-bolt, I would sell it so I could get a Fascinate. I'm loving my Fascinate since they finally !$#@&$!?#$&! upgraded it to 2.2. I won't upgrade until I can get a higher resolution screen, or, better battery life.
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I have to go with the other positives here. Loving this phone with the community rom. Don't see any need to upgrade in the near future. Gingerbread would be nice, but not a necessity for me at all.
And Target is pushing this phone pretty hard, too in their new wireless offerings (at least at my location). They have it for $99 and the rep hanging around said he sells quite a few of them
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I don't think we'll see the end until the Galaxy S2. They're still selling quite a bit, and now VZ is really starting to advertise it, and it FINALLY has 2.2.
I just realized - if you think you're hearing about lots of problems with the Fascinate, well, that's probably because they sold so friggen many of them. I do have to admit though, it does feel kinda "cheap" with it's plastic back cover, compared to the iPhone 4. Why don't they release a titanium cover for it? That would be sweet.
Aside from being just an all around good Android device/phone, the really great features about the Fascinate are the: Gorilla glass (forget ever needing screen protectors again), the wonderfully sleek and lite form, and the AMOLED screen.
Does T-Bolt have G-Glass? Does it have AMOLED? Is it sleeker and lighter? Does it have better battery life???
My friend at work got one and my first reaction when I held it was: Jesus why is this thing so thick and heavy, isn't it a NEW phone?!? So, I figured well, it must have like double the battery life - then he tells me, if he actually USES the LTE he gets like FOUR hours. Seriously, WTF?!? And you can't plug in the charger when you use the "kick stand"? Serious FAIL in that design!
The ONE thing that I like about the iPhone 4 is: the high res display. Reading .PDF files on the little Fascinate screen is not the best experience. I would be willing to take a slightly larger (but not thicker please) phone for a HIGHER RESOLUTION + larger (4.3") display. But it MUST be higher resolution than 800 x 480!!! It almost makes me cry that the S2 isn't higher res. QQ
Actually the Thunderbolt does have gorilla glass. After root and running a good Rom and kernel your looking at battery life that's as good if not better than a fascinate. I sure do miss the amoled screen though.
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Actually the Thunderbolt does have gorilla glass. After root and running a good Rom and kernel your looking at battery life that's as good if not better than a fascinate. I sure do miss the amoled screen though.
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Agreed. Its simply a pitfall of manufacturers skinning android. AOSP has always yielded better battery life for me.
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This is not a bash thread. I owned the epic for roughly 4 months. It is a very good phone. Reason I dropped it was due to it felt cheap. The phone was pretty loose concerning the slider. Also I never used the keyboard. The amoled screen is nice but I needed a bigger screen. So I switched to the evo. And from what I can tell during normal everyday use is that its just as fast. I don't game and I know the epic is better for gaming. I still think the epic is a damn good phone. Just sharing my experience. Also even with gps turned on so far the battery life on the evo is a little bit better. It does not get hot during web browsing like the epic did.
Im still here though. Been here since the epic launched and still glad to try to help other if they need it.
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My only complaint with Samsung is the software. They make awesome hardware, though. I think they do it on purpose because if they matched a software engineer to eke out everything from the hardware, you wouldn't really care about buying a new phone so much.
Even though Samsung sucks at supporting their Products, it'll be hard to go to any inferior screen.
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This is not a bash thread. I owned the epic for roughly 4 months. It is a very good phone. Reason I dropped it was due to it felt cheap. The phone was pretty loose concerning the slider. Also I never used the keyboard. The amoled screen is nice but I needed a bigger screen. So I switched to the evo. And from what I can tell during normal everyday use is that its just as fast. I don't game and I know the epic is better for gaming. I still think the epic is a damn good phone. Just sharing my experience. Also even with gps turned on so far the battery life on the evo is a little bit better. It does not get hot during web browsing like the epic did.
Im still here though. Been here since the epic launched and still glad to try to help other if they need it.
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Not sure how you can get better battery life on a stock EVO. The hardware in the Epic is simply more power efficient than the EVO, it's a fact.
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Love the epic...agree the slider mech sux....
Ive never seen a problem with the sliding mech. Matter a fact I also have a moment and the intercept and those mechs are fine as well. I don't see how they're bad.
Anyway At this point jumping to the Evo isn't a bad idea at all if you want to. All of this "Epic is just a better machine" means squat when it's not even updated with an official Froyo yet. It's like having the most advanced yatch in a desert.
I for one love my epic but the second something esle comes along. I think i'll be leaving myself. Unless the device that comes along is also made by samsung. Then no thanks.
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Not sure how you can get better battery life on a stock EVO. The hardware in the Epic is simply more power efficient than the EVO, it's a fact.
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Well stock 2.2 battery life so far is great. Stock for stock there pretty close honestly. The epics display eats a ton of battery.
Also another thing I am noticing. On the epic I used roam control due to no sprint signal at work. If I left it on automatic the epic would lose signal, the radio would then reset itself 2 times before it would go to roam. So I used roam control to just roam only. On the evo it seemlessly switches between home and roam without completely losing the radio.
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No it doesn't. Its actually much more efficient than the Evo's.
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I for one love my epic but the second something esle comes along. I think i'll be leaving myself. Unless the device that comes along is also made by samsung. Then no thanks.
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Agreed. The Tegra 2 LG Optimus looks pretty appealing, if it gets the advertised battery life. Wonder if it'll come out for Sprint.
That said, I do play some Super Mario now & then on the Epic. The keyboard + Game Gripper is nice for that. I can't do the screen controls, too slow.
I love the Epic to death, but Samsung support sucks.
To the person mentioning switching ... HTC shift.
I know a few buddies who went from the epic to the Evo. Both good devices. Sprint kind of limited.
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Evos a great phone. I had both the epic and the evo, switched back and forth for awhile before deciding in the Epic. The epic IMO is quicker, but the development on the Evo may have changed that by now, idk. I will say that my evo always had better battery life than my epic. Same apps and same usage, both with the Evo on 2.1 and 2.2. Battery isnt a big deal to me personally tho since I always keep a spare battery. Enjoy your Evo. I personally miss the development compared to the epic, but im hopeful that that will changer soon. If you end up not liking it, sell it. I sold mine for twice what I paid. My wife just sold her second evo for $550 cash off craigslist.
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I've had a person on Craigslist practically begging me to switch his 1 month old Evo, for my epic. I have been really torn between what to do. I really like this phone, and it is only gonna get better when 2.2 offically releases and the source code drops. I think I would regret it if I traded and it turned out the epic is being pushed beyond what any other phone has done before performance wise with the release of the source. T-mobile just got their release for 2.2 today, so hopefully we are not far behind (ya I know, we are on CDMA).
Whoa.... Vibrant got an official update? I didn't see anything on those forums...
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I've had a person on Craigslist practically begging me to switch his 1 month old Evo, for my epic. I have been really torn between what to do. I really like this phone, and it is only gonna get better when 2.2 offically releases and the source code drops. I think I would regret it if I traded and it turned out the epic is being pushed beyond what any other phone has done before performance wise with the release of the source. T-mobile just got their release for 2.2 today, so hopefully we are not far behind (ya I know, we are on CDMA).
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I haven't seen anything about the Vibrant getting official Froyo today...Do you have a link
The epic is my first samsung. I always have HTC from the ppc 6700 to the evo. I switched from the evo. Even tho I do agree the epic feel's cheap, but it does have better hardware than the evo.
Deal breaker for me was the camera, I was Surprised how crappy the evo was to take pic's, but at least the epic sux's less, it's actually pretty good.
Development is slower, but it's still gets plenty of love. I for one don't plan on flashing every other day.
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I've had a person on Craigslist practically begging me to switch his 1 month old Evo, for my epic. I have been really torn between what to do. I really like this phone, and it is only gonna get better when 2.2 offically releases and the source code drops. I think I would regret it if I traded and it turned out the epic is being pushed beyond what any other phone has done before performance wise with the release of the source. T-mobile just got their release for 2.2 today, so hopefully we are not far behind (ya I know, we are on CDMA).
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If its the release that I think your speaking of. It was for T-Mobile (UK) not T-Mobile (USA). I thought the same thing once I read about it, but read more and its for the UK.
I have both the Epic and the EVO. I love both phones, but I like the EVO a bit better. I'm sure my reasoning is totally different from others (as expected). I would love to compare the two with 2.2, but for obvious reason I cannot. I'm VERY tempted on rooting my Epic finally. Battery life (for me, as I cant speak for others) have been great on both. But again, everyone has their different uses on their phones.
Well imop, I wouldn't of down graded... When they come out with a better phone damn near every 6 months. I would've stuck with the Epic till something better came out ( like the dual processor ) thats coming... But if you got-it like that just to buy 500 dollar phones because it feel cheesy ( And I agree ) then you made the right decison...
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Well imop, I wouldn't of down graded... When they come out with a better phone damn near every 6 months. I would've stuck with the Epic till something better came out ( like the dual processor ) thats coming... But if you got-it like that just to buy 500 dollar phones because it feel cheesy ( And I agree ) then you made the right decison...
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But in reality 500 bucks for a phone like Epic isn't bad at all. Us American just got used to super subsidized phones...
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In my opinion, I think the Epic is a great phone, the only complaint I would make is the battery life. Then again I use my phone constantly and run many tasks at the same time, but I'm sure emulators don't help either lol. As for the slider, that made all the difference when debating on buying an epic or evo. Even if it is a little loose the qwerty is almost perfectly spaced and is probably the best one i have used on any phone (and I have gone through a lot). As for the software we all knew that Samsung sucked at providing it, but thanks to hard working people there are plenty of ways to get the newest android versions through ROMs which don't take too much work to use.
Personally I don't plan on changing my epic until it can no longer support newer android versions, but that's just me
Here is the link, 1 of out of 2 I saw today for T mobile customers getting Froyo for their Galaxy S phones.
http://www.onlinesocialmedia.net/20101201/froyo-comes-to-t-mobiles-samsung-galaxy-s-users/
you had to go!!!! After having this phone for 2 weeks, it just didn't quite cut it even though on paper it was remarkable. It had a dual core processor, higher resolution, webtop capabilities on and on...
In the end I guess my old eyes couldn't handle the smaller icons due to higher resolution, I had issues with my MP3 player playing only 3/4 of song then stopping and then i wasn't liking the dual core heating up like a toaster oven. THe icons were dull colors too....Motorola likes these dull browns for icons where as HTC likes to use color and make it vivid.
I also like to play around with my phone too much so LOCKED BOOTLOADER was not cool. Did you hear me Motorola, LOCKED BOOTLOADER for a lot of people dont like that.....
So in the end I got the Inspire 4G with Sense. You really cant go wrong with HTC, although I understand the postive and negatives to each phone, mine just happen to fit more in line with HTC.
So for you hopefuls that Motorola will unlock it, wish you the best of luck or that they will do many updates, wish you the best of luck!!!
Not trying to start a huge debate, but if you are on the fence about these two phones, just spend 10 mins. with the Inspire and most people will probably like it over the Motorola.
its funny i had the inspire for 2 weeks....got rid of it a few days ago
got the Atrix...and THANK GOD I DID
4.3 inches at the **** resolution its at was a disaster, hurt my hands. Too heavy
not very fast, barely played videos (htc codecs suck)
Like you said, it comes down to opinion
but switching from inspire 4g to atrix was the best thing I ever did
PS: The battery on that thing gave me EPIC NIGHTMARES.
Can someone just make a "im returning _______" thread/topic/section?
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you had to go!!!! After having this phone for 2 weeks, it just didn't quite cut it even though on paper it was remarkable. It had a dual core processor, higher resolution, webtop capabilities on and on...
In the end I guess my old eyes couldn't handle the smaller icons due to higher resolution, I had issues with my MP3 player playing only 3/4 of song then stopping and then i wasn't liking the dual core heating up like a toaster oven. THe icons were dull colors too....Motorola likes these dull browns for icons where as HTC likes to use color and make it vivid.
I also like to play around with my phone too much so LOCKED BOOTLOADER was not cool. Did you hear me Motorola, LOCKED BOOTLOADER for a lot of people dont like that.....
So in the end I got the Inspire 4G with Sense. You really cant go wrong with HTC, although I understand the postive and negatives to each phone, mine just happen to fit more in line with HTC.
So for you hopefuls that Motorola will unlock it, wish you the best of luck or that they will do many updates, wish you the best of luck!!!
Not trying to start a huge debate, but if you are on the fence about these two phones, just spend 10 mins. with the Inspire and most people will probably like it over the Motorola.
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You actually can go wrong with HTC, its when they put a 1200 mah battery in a 1.8 ghz capable phone then you get to watch your battery lose a percent every 4 minutes of use. I had one it was totally BS battery life and was totally unacceptable. Then people say "just don't OC it" so then you have a 4.3 inch captivate with less ui lag, no usable internal memory storage, and GPS that works.
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Did u try launcher pro plus first motoblur is **** ill give you that but the phone is fast good battery life screen is nice... I'm loving it
i can't wait until i leave my epic 4g from sprint and come to the atrix community
i am tired of htc, samsung and sprints games so it times to give motorola and att a chance
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Or a
'I treat my phone like a dog' thread
'My phone has feelings, but my other one performs better in bed'
'I'm insecure about my decisions, so I will talk about it here'
Seconded.
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HTC phones are so GENERIC. Its insulting you would even compare such a tired, re-hash of a device to the ATRIX.
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Or a
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'My phone has feelings, but my other one performs better in bed'
'I'm insecure about my decisions, so I will talk about it here'
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Lol ;-)
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I love HTC phones. But they have to be Android. I have the evo 4G and I couldn't be happier. It's fast, vibrant, has all the bells and whistles. I literally have a mini computer at the palm of my hands.
I've had it for about 3 weeks now and yeah the battery goes quick but thats because I can't put it down! I had the Hero before switching to evo and I love everything about this phone.
I didn't understand why it was called the supersonic until I used it. Is rather have my HTC evo over any other phone on the market. Puts the iPhone to shame with its 8.0mp camera, and its secondary front-mounted camera makes video chatting a synch, the kickstand is awesome for watching YouTube or movies and also playing games. Oh and I almost forgot it has an HDMI out. Used it and the picture on my tv is remarkable.
Keep up the good work HTC and Google....I love you
Oh and one other thing it has a 4G mobile hotspot that can provide WiFi for up to 8 devices at once. If thats not remarkable I don't know what is
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I love HTC phones. But they have to be Android. I have the evo 4G and I couldn't be happier. It's fast, vibrant, has all the bells and whistles. I literally have a mini computer at the palm of my hands.
I've had it for about 3 weeks now and yeah the battery goes quick but thats because I can't put it down! I had the Hero before switching to evo and I love everything about this phone.
I didn't understand why it was called the supersonic until I used it. Is rather have my HTC evo over any other phone on the market. Puts the iPhone to shame with its 8.0mp camera, and its secondary front-mounted camera makes video chatting a synch, the kickstand is awesome for watching YouTube or movies and also playing games. Oh and I almost forgot it has an HDMI out. Used it and the picture on my tv is remarkable.
Keep up the good work HTC and Google....I love you
Oh and one other thing it has a 4G mobile hotspot that can provide WiFi for up to 8 devices at once. If thats not remarkable I don't know what is
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i like the Evo and a lot of people i kno and see around campus have either the evo or iphone 4, very few galaxy S phone, but honestly i think the Atrix is better then all of them, even the Galaxy S II won't compare judging from the specs that were given(but i can't prove it until the phone comes out so it's just an opinion)
I've never been a fan of Motorola. I have had very bad experiences with mot. Phones. I have had nothing but good experiences with HTC w/google. I also used to have the blackberry curve 8310 and thought it was the best thing since buttered toast. But that quickly changed when I switched to sprint.
Sprint has better service than ATT & Verizon combined IMO. But thats just how I feel. They have given me good prices and great devices with no hassle and I'm not the type to ruin a good thing. Bottom line is "to each his own" but I will recommend HTC with Android until either HTC starts slacking or Google bites the dust (which they wont).
I'm sure you all have valid points about your phone's but I'm pro HTC and definitly pro Google.
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I've never been a fan of Motorola. I have had very bad experiences with mot. Phones. I have had nothing but good experiences with HTC w/google. I also used to have the blackberry curve 8310 and thought it was the best thing since buttered toast. But that quickly changed when I switched to sprint.
Sprint has better service than ATT & Verizon combined IMO. But thats just how I feel. They have given me good prices and great devices with no hassle and I'm not the type to ruin a good thing. Bottom line is "to each his own" but I will recommend HTC with Android until either HTC starts slacking or Google bites the dust (which they wont).
I'm sure you all have valid points about your phone's but I'm pro HTC and definitly pro Google.
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Had Inspire and Atrix. Kept Atrix. The end.
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I've had many htc phones and have always had a good experience. I had a hard time waiting for the atrix when I saw the inspire for $100. At that price point it is a steal for the features you get. In the end i'm glad I waited though. The Atrix is rediculously good!!! Super fast and great battery life (I get about 16 hours a charge... 16!!!) It is hands down the best phone i've ever used. Head shoulders and more above the rest, a GIANT among a sea of average phones.
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I was impressed by the Inspire back when it came out on Sprint as the Evo... what, eight months ago? I made the mistake of buying old hardware that just came out once, the Hero. Never again.
Coming from the Captivate, the only things I miss are how vibrant the games looked on SAMOLED and flashing the new hot stuff roms.
Do not miss accidently bricking the thing and having to use a USB jig to fix it though...
I am from a another continent; a faraway country - Singapore to be exact. Smartphones is one of my hobbies. I have had several HTC phones - Windows Mobile, and now the Desire on Android which is about 9 months old, and high time for a replacement. I have been reading and eyeing the Atrix since Jan 2011 - all excited about it's superior tech specs, and particularly its innovative HDMI/TV docking unit. I have been preparing myself to be an early adopter and to purchase a unit from EBay at a premium price. I have been so impressed with what I read that I even invested in some MMI stocks. But, all these excitement, hype and high expectations of owning a Atrix (will be my first Moto) came to a complete stop last weekend - when I learnt that a famed developer (he did the unroot for the Atrix) abandoned his work because of the locked bootloader! Motorola may have their own reasons to do this, but it is unacceptable to me. So, unless I see a Moto announcement to unlock the bootloader, I am off looking for another dual core smartphone - either the LG 2X or wait for HTC to release one. Obviously I will also sell off my MMI stocks - even if I have to incur a loss, given its recent rapid decline. Sorry folks, if I have been somewhat off-topic. Just wanted to voice my opinion.
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I am from a another continent; a faraway country - Singapore to be exact. Smartphones is one of my hobbies. I have had several HTC phones - Windows Mobile, and now the Desire on Android which is about 9 months old, and high time for a replacement. I have been reading and eyeing the Atrix since Jan 2011 - all excited about it's superior tech specs, and particularly its innovative HDMI/TV docking unit. I have been preparing myself to be an early adopter and to purchase a unit from EBay at a premium price. I have been so impressed with what I read that I even invested in some MMI stocks. But, all these excitement, hype and high expectations of owning a Atrix (will be my first Moto) came to a complete stop last weekend - when I learnt that a famed developer (he did the unroot for the Atrix) abandoned his work because of the locked bootloader! Motorola may have their own reasons to do this, but it is unacceptable to me. So, unless I see a Moto announcement to unlock the bootloader, I am off looking for another dual core smartphone - either the LG 2X or wait for HTC to release one. Obviously I will also sell off my MMI stocks - even if I have to incur a loss, given its recent rapid decline. Sorry folks, if I have been somewhat off-topic. Just wanted to voice my opinion.
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It really is perplexing -the decision to lock the bootloader. I mean, are they afraid someone would engineer a program that steals fingerprints...etc?
Got it a few hours ago. On paper, the specs but don't seem like a huge upgrade, but when you actually use it, you can tell it is.
It's fast. No hiccups, lag, or anything. You may say, "my dinc doesn't have any lag or slowdown either," but when you mess with a dinc 2 you will see what I mean. Screen is gorgeous. Phone feels excellent. Speaker is less "tinny" than the original.
I still need to mess with a ton of other stuff, but if you have any questions, let me know.
I'm most concerned with if/when it gets rooted. And how many dev's it picks up. Looks like quite a few of them already went to the Thunderbolt. I'm not due for an upgrade until July 2012 anyway, so when that date comes, who knows what will be out, but I will probably go with whatever is already rooted, and has the most development.
I had one a few days ago, and honestly, the "faster" tihng is really overblown. A menu screen may pop up a microsecond faster, but it wasn;t any more useable or anything. And the glare on that screen could cut glass.
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I'm most concerned with if/when it gets rooted. And how many dev's it picks up. Looks like quite a few of them already went to the Thunderbolt. I'm not due for an upgrade until July 2012 anyway, so when that date comes, who knows what will be out, but I will probably go with whatever is already rooted, and has the most development.
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Engadget just gave the Galaxy S II a 9/10. And they hate android. It looks really nice - if it comes out on Verizon, I will have to think really hard about saying no...
I don't know what my next phone will be. I can't upgrade until March but I know I want an LTE phone and front facing camera and the dinc 2 only has one of my wants.
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I got one this morning and I'm liking it. I needed a world phone so it was a no-brainer for me. I like the screen size as compared to my dinc1. It's a good compromise with having a bigger screen without being one of the 4.3" phones that I thought were too big.
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Jes7er said:
Engadget just gave the Galaxy S II a 9/10. And they hate android. It looks really nice - if it comes out on Verizon, I will have to think really hard about saying no...
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I'm comming from a fascinate unless they fix their updating process and the file system don't buy any samsung phone...
Yea my upgrade isn't up until December I tried to talk my talk today, but it didn't get me anywhere.
What Sense version is it? What kernel? Is it drm protected so it can do netflix? I noticed on the vzw website it has the same processor as the Thunderbolt. So don't know if it would be. Also noticed it doesn't have a trackball or optical joystick. Thats gonna suck.
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What Sense version is it? What kernel? Is it drm protected so it can do netflix? I noticed on the vzw website it has the same processor as the Thunderbolt. So don't know if it would be. Also noticed it doesn't have a trackball or optical joystick. Thats gonna suck.
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I read somewhere that it's Sense 2.0. The kernel is 2.6.35.9. Don't know about drm.
As for the trackball/optical, i'm glad it doesn't have it. I never used it on my dinc1.
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I read somewhere that it's Sense 2.0. The kernel is 2.6.35.9. Don't know about drm.
As for the trackball/optical, i'm glad it doesn't have it. I never used it on my dinc1.
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Sense is version 2.00.0000.339629
Guess I'll have to play with one to check out the glare thing. DI2 is just the size I was looking for, but no dual core and no LTE, made me actually consider waiting for the GS2..... or better.
I believe its sense 2.1 and I personally like the optical joystick as well.
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http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5641&deviceCategoryId=1
Im playin with one now at verizon and neither it or the tbolt are a big enough upgrade over the dinc for me. Tbolt maybe, dinc 2, no way. Im runnin optimized z and my phone is way smoother. Inc2 screen only slightly bigger, ive got a z camera that is the same. Dinc2 is already outdated IMO.
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I'm most concerned with if/when it gets rooted. And how many dev's it picks up. Looks like quite a few of them already went to the Thunderbolt...
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That's a big concern for me. I just picked up the DInc2 yesterday....at retail price. Why? Both my wife and I are deaf and we live in what you would call a rather remote area, but at least have VZW tower nearby. A 4G/LTE phone is overkill when one lives nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light. So, on paper, as a 3G phone with video chat capability at a lower price then the LTE stuff, the DInc2 really fits the bill by giving me video chat so my wife and I can sign to each other when in different locations. That's a big plus.
BUT... as I scout all the normal forums I've used for my Droid 1, Droid X and Nook, the DInc2 looks like a real sleeper in terms of dev interest. This is my first HTC phone and even though the Motorola Droid has that %*&$#@ 'locked' bootloader, there's still a lot of options as well as the leaked restore files. I don't really want to root a phone until the point where there's some solid dev work as well as the ability to restore after screwing something up.
So, since like I mentioned, we're nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light and the nearest VZW store is just beyond that, I may bring it back on Tuesday when we're in the area and wait for the next suitable phone that has video chat capabilities. I've always used VZW's one-year contract and now that this option has bit the dust, I don't want to sign a two-year extension at the end of the year unless its for a phone that well-supported by devs AND has decent battery life.
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That's a big concern for me. I just picked up the DInc2 yesterday....at retail price. Why? Both my wife and I are deaf and we live in what you would call a rather remote area, but at least have VZW tower nearby. A 4G/LTE phone is overkill when one lives nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light. So, on paper, as a 3G phone with video chat capability at a lower price then the LTE stuff, the DInc2 really fits the bill by giving me video chat so my wife and I can sign to each other when in different locations. That's a big plus.
BUT... as I scout all the normal forums I've used for my Droid 1, Droid X and Nook, the DInc2 looks like a real sleeper in terms of dev interest. This is my first HTC phone and even though the Motorola Droid has that %*&$#@ 'locked' bootloader, there's still a lot of options as well as the leaked restore files. I don't really want to root a phone until the point where there's some solid dev work as well as the ability to restore after screwing something up.
So, since like I mentioned, we're nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light and the nearest VZW store is just beyond that, I may bring it back on Tuesday when we're in the area and wait for the next suitable phone that has video chat capabilities. I've always used VZW's one-year contract and now that this option has bit the dust, I don't want to sign a two-year extension at the end of the year unless its for a phone that well-supported by devs AND has decent battery life.
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It takes a while for the devs to ramp up on a phone. It was a couple of weeks or more before the original DI was cracked and then it took even more time to get ROMs up to speed. Every phone is different and it just takes time. The DI2 was just released YESTERDAY. Your expectations might be just a little high.
...just sayin'.
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It takes a while for the devs to ramp up on a phone. ...
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Yeah, I do understand that. At the same time, I've been seeing devs flock away from other phones as they get fascinated with latest 4G/LTE, tablet, dual-core, etc. So, in that respect, I'd guess the DInc2 would gotten more attention had it been released early Winter.
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It takes a while for the devs to ramp up on a phone. It was a couple of weeks or more before the original DI was cracked and then it took even more time to get ROMs up to speed. Every phone is different and it just takes time. The DI2 was just released YESTERDAY. Your expectations might be just a little high.
...just sayin'.
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Inc S (Same phone) was released months ago...just sayin
so I had an incdredible, got an iphone 4 (huge mistake), then got the thunderbolt. well im now back on the incredible and i gotta say that the inc is the fastest smoothest phone ive had so far. the thunderbolt felt laggy alot, even after i rooted it, no matter what rom i was on. i dont live in an area where 4g exists so that didnt matter. i also didnt like how big it was. im not even sure the inc 2 is as good as the inc 1. they decreased internal memory and increased the size of the screen... just seems a little weird that this phone seems to be better than the newer technology..
Agree with you!
I have been in Verizon, Sprint, and US Cellular in the past few days checking all the phones out, and I can't find anything that is as quick and works as well as the Incredible. I would love to upgrade, but to me there is nothing to UPgrade to. The original Incredible is just an awesome phone.
That's weird. I'd think the added 256mb of RAM would make it faster.
I wonder if it's a matter of the Incredible having been out far longer and devs having more time to figure out how to optimize things for it?
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I have been in Verizon, Sprint, and US Cellular in the past few days checking all the phones out, and I can't find anything that is as quick and works as well as the Incredible. I would love to upgrade, but to me there is nothing to UPgrade to. The original Incredible is just an awesome phone.
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Im glad tho cuz for once I get to use, no wait ENJOY a phone for the full 2yrs of my contract without trying to scheme up a way to upgrade early.
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it has better tech because it's older, and more time was put into it. the thunderbolt has crappy tech, sense 2.1. a good example, i was in the store the other day looking for a belt holster, i did find it, but, was comparing specs on the droid charge to the droid x, the droid x has a faster proc, i asked why the charge costed more since it has lower tech then the x. the rep said "well, this is newer, has dual core (WRONG) has a bigger screen (yeah, because i really need a 4.3 inch screen when 3.7 is serving me fine, ffs i use a 20" HDTV i got for 90 bucks on clearence, no it's not "1080p led, 120hz" crap, but it works.
Shoot Kiboe find me a HDTV deal like that! My husband would love you. LOL!
Yeah I got the Incredible the first day it was out. This phone works pretty good with the Synergy rom.
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I have been looking around for a phone to tempt me away from the Incredible and nothing has even come close. What I find funny is the Verizon stores I've gone to are now locking the phones so you can't get into the settings and see what its specs are. This is truly the first phone that has lived up to its name.
C4H1LL why did you get rid of the iphone 4 out of curiosity? I'm track to buy the new one for verizon when it comes out.
I agree the Incredible is Incredible!!! I will cry when it brakes, running MIUI.US with Incredikernel. The Incredible 2 and the Thunderbolt are basically the same except Incredible2 is global and no LTE. All three have 1gig single core cpu's, but the overclock potential for the 2 and thunder would kill the original. I want a unlocked bootloader dual core HTC.
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C4H1LL why did you get rid of the iphone 4 out of curiosity? I'm track to buy the new one for verizon when it comes out.
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Iphone 4 has been out on Verizon since February. The Iphone 5 is rumored for September release. Before you buy something you will regret, take the incredible(1or2) and load MIUI.US can make it look like a Iphone.
http://forums.miui.us/showthread.php?228-ROM-MIUI-1.6.17.1-Droid-Incredible-Updated-at-2-15pm-6-18
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That is a really really good theme... I might try it lol thanks.
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Iphone 4 has been out on Verizon since February. The Iphone 5 is rumored for September release. Before you buy something you will regret, take the incredible(1or2) and load MIUI.US can make it look like a Iphone.
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MIUI is a GREAT ROM, even if you're NOT trying to make your phone look like an Iphone. (I'm definitely not.)
Still have my dinc.. still an awesome phone. But my inspire has me hooked. Plus att coverage is way better in my area. ( sticks) . At this point in the game its really a battle of specs. To me its all becoming overkill if you think bout it.. while having the latest and greatest is nice. Staying one generation behind is always better. Why? Because of optimization..lol bugs worked out.
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Still have my dinc.. still an awesome phone. But my inspire has me hooked. Plus att coverage is way better in my area. ( sticks) . At this point in the game its really a battle of specs. To me its all becoming overkill if you think bout it.. while having the latest and greatest is nice. Staying one generation behind is always better. Why? Because of optimization..lol bugs worked out.
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ha yea. For these android phones that is true, plus you get a huge discount is price.
You couldn't pay me to leave my Tbolt to go back to my dInc. Or the dInc2. A number of the early custom ROMs where pretty sorry, despite the best efforts of many devs. That mainly has to do with some pretty sorry base leaks from the Big Red Checkmark. I'm currently running a 3D ROM (not exactly easy on graphics) and it lags NONE at all. Furthermore, having 25 to 45 Mbps in your pocket is not something you ever want to give up.
Concerning the dInc2, that's a far better device than the original. The LCD is FAR brighter than the AMOLED, the CPU is more muscular, it's got more memory, it's got a screen large enough to reasonably display a keyboard, a decent front-facing camera, it's even more pleasant to the hand to hold, and it's actually difficult to kill the battery inside a day. If 4G wasn't a factor, I'd have a dInc2. 4G being a factor, the Tbolt is an industrial-strength device capable of summoning speeds as high as 45Mbps, leaving you effectively waiting for nothing. Really.... it downloads songs faster than you can open the music player and play them. Tethered or on the device, streaming HD quality video is NOT a big deal. I've downloaded 310MB ROMs in under 3 minutes.
not everyone is in a 4g market!!!!!!
if you have the money, go with the t-bolt, if not, just stick with the dinc until you do.
Lol had my Inc since early February. I'm happy with it and the specs aren't too low. I do have a bone to pick with HTC on their cruddy bluetooth system. It is pretty much my dependent internet connection when I'm at home. I can't get wireless out here and the closest thing we can get is dial up (not going back). I'm getting closer to go back to CM7 and get better bluetooth, but the camera sucks on it and I won't be able to use the tv out cable. While I have my issues with it, I'm happy I got it. I got it on sale for 50 bucks at Hhgregg, which in my opinion is a bargain. I don't think 4G will take off...at least not drastically for quite a while as its still being developed in many parts of the US. Maybe by the time my contract is up, I'll upgrade to a different Droid or a different non-HTC sense and Galaxy S device. Maybe get something with HDMI as well as more phones are coming with that lol. Plus with the unlimited data I'm grandfathered in and 4G data in the future, I will no longer have to go out for wifi But I'll be with my Incredible Droid until the contract is up. I might hold onto it and see if there's other purposes for it. I say if you can find this phone dirt cheap like Amazon had for .01 cent with a contract, not really into 4G yet, and could care less about a front facing camera then this phone is for you.
There are tech sites (tested.com) for example who talk about how this device is outdated and stuff.
It really isn't... it is a great phone and hasn't failed me yet. I just added on a bulky battery to mine though so it lasts over a day if I can't find a plug. The only con I had before was battery life.
I am probably going to end up dropping it one day and breaking it beyond repair and that is gonna force me to upgrade, because for what I use it for I don't see myself needing anything else yet.
I already replaced the digitizer twice lol... last time was just because it had a lot of scratches though
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There are tech sites (tested.com) for example who talk about how this device is outdated and stuff.
It really isn't... it is a great phone and hasn't failed me yet. I just added on a bulky battery to mine though so it lasts over a day if I can't find a plug. The only con I had before was battery life.
I am probably going to end up dropping it one day and breaking it beyond repair and that is gonna force me to upgrade, because for what I use it for I don't see myself needing anything else yet.
I already replaced the digitizer twice lol... last time was just because it had a lot of scratches though
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Are you rooted? There's probably a bunch of things you can do to help your battery life out, I'm on a 1900mAh battery that still fits in the stock case and I get over a day's use. I use a BUNCH of GPS and data too (according to VZW I used 20GB last month)
But yea the INC is growing a little old but there's nothing I have to complain about it, and no phone is a good enough upgrade for me to go for it.
One day though.. we will part our ways. Just got a new case for mine so I'm in love with it all over again..now spending hours on these forums. oh god. I need to go to sleep.
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Its cool bro..
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Looks really promising
And it has a microsd slot which is real important
People seem critical about it, but I think its pretty nice. I only hope they come out with a white version after a while. But the specs are cool. Which apart from the heftier battery and SD card slot, its basically the same as the One X. So personally, I'm planning on getting one.
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Micosd, larger battery, HD voice, kickstand, camera button.
Enough new features that make the phone better, its easy to overlook the design that's different form the One X.
I think its a nice phone. Most of the new phones coming out are all nice and promising. Not to fond about the network haha sprint just got slow.... but hopefully their Lte will be great we'll see
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1.2mp front camera?
i thought it was 2mp like the original one x?
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1.2mp front camera?
i thought it was 2mp like the original one x?
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It is a nice phone...now we'll probably have to wait a year or so for devs to make better ROMs for it. I *wish* HTC would drop the "Beats by Dr Dre" crap. Makes all audio sound like crap.
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It is a nice phone...now we'll probably have to wait a year or so for devs to make better ROMs for it. I *wish* HTC would drop the "Beats by Dr Dre" crap. Makes all audio sound like crap.
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Why do you assume we'll have to wait that long? Evo 4G was rooted before it even launched, I was flashing new ROMs 2 months later (based on my post history).
I agree that Beats is lame, though. I see students wearing their Beats headphones and telling me how epic they are, I have them listen to my 8-year-old Sony DJ cans (which aren't even that amazing to begin with, compared to the Sennheiser set I had before them) and they totally outperform. Plus, they cost less than half what the Beats label costs these kids (or, realistically, their parents).
I think the Evo One is a great phone, it was obviously announced yesterday because yesterday was the day launch-day Evo 4G buyers were eligible for full upgrade. But that's fine with me, I've been looking for anything that could make me feel as good about upgrading as the Evo did in 2010. Wasn't too stoked about the SGS3 or the Galaxy Nexus, I was hoping HTC would bring something big to the table. They've been faltering as of late, hopefully this will represent a comeback.
Now that's the phone that may keep me around with Sprint after my current contract expires. I just hope that they would have the LTE network in my area soon. WiMax??? I got to use it only twice when I visited Chicago ever since I got the EVO.
1.2mp front cam. i'll pass. what a let down. what a joke. pathetic phone.
not worth the $200 upgrade.
notsrs.
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Why do you assume we'll have to wait that long? Evo 4G was rooted before it even launched, I was flashing new ROMs 2 months later (based on my post history).
I agree that Beats is lame, though. I see students wearing their Beats headphones and telling me how epic they are, I have them listen to my 8-year-old Sony DJ cans (which aren't even that amazing to begin with, compared to the Sennheiser set I had before them) and they totally outperform. Plus, they cost less than half what the Beats label costs these kids (or, realistically, their parents).
I think the Evo One is a great phone, it was obviously announced yesterday because yesterday was the day launch-day Evo 4G buyers were eligible for full upgrade. But that's fine with me, I've been looking for anything that could make me feel as good about upgrading as the Evo did in 2010. Wasn't too stoked about the SGS3 or the Galaxy Nexus, I was hoping HTC would bring something big to the table. They've been faltering as of late, hopefully this will represent a comeback.
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I leap to presume as the EVO4g Design has been out for a long while and doesn't even have a listing on XDA Forums. And I have yet to hear of ROM support for it.
It looks like a promising device. I wish they'd have stuck with the ONE brand name, but that's just a minor quibble. Unless something else hits in the latter part of this year that strikes my interest, this might be my next device (coming from the OG EVO).
Personally I was bit disappointed yesterday, after hearing that sprint would be possibly getting a one-x. I was hoping that they would have kept the one-x the way it was with the two extras that they added. I guess I just wanted something fresh in the aesthetics department as well as specs but o well. I also think that if they had stayed with the look of the one-x that the possibility of more sales could have come from just the looks of a new phone. Customers that dont really care about internals are going to see this 4gLTE one might not be pleased.
Overall, it looks like a decent phone. I'm personally not happy with the sealed battery/case. So I will wait to see if the Samsung Galaxy 3S also has a sealed battery/case before making a decision which phone will replace my Evo OG. Of course, I won't look at either until there is broad LTE coverage in Atlanta. So probably 2014 at this rate.
Defiantly not buying it.
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Personally I was bit disappointed yesterday, after hearing that sprint would be possibly getting a one-x. I was hoping that they would have kept the one-x the way it was with the two extras that they added. I guess I just wanted something fresh in the aesthetics department as well as specs but o well. I also think that if they had stayed with the look of the one-x that the possibility of more sales could have come from just the looks of a new phone. Customers that dont really care about internals are going to see this 4gLTE one might not be pleased.
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Yea i wasnt to happy about the battery being sealed. Im curious if this phone freezes if there is away to do a force boot??
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Yea i wasnt to happy about the battery being sealed. Im curious if this phone freezes if there is away to do a force boot??
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You can do it on an Evo 4G by simultaneously pressing the power, volume up and volume down buttons. So I would assume the new Evo would also have a way to do it. Worse case, you have to wait for your battery to drain.
I'm pretty excited about it! And fyi the front cam is 1.3 mp and its capable of 720p video. I'm not really big on the design, but the features look to be enough of an upgrade to my og evo to warrant paying $200 for the upgrade.
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