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So many defects with the G1....

Ok, I purchased an ADP1 last month and have been running into issues since.
So far:
1. Phones been creaky. I had to fix this by putting electrical tape on the chin of the phone.
2. The earpiece makes a buzzing noise, occasionally harder to hear than the caller on the other end. Had to fix this with more electrical tape on the earpiece.
3. The back battery case was making a chirping noise when I held it with my hand. Had to apply electrical tape on the inside of the case to fix that.
4. Now -- Just discovered that my pictures I take have a huge black spot on each of them (I've attached a picture as an example... the spot is usually noticeable during the day time/outside, but thats a picture against a white wall). Does anyone know how to fix this issue/experience this problem as well?
So many problems with this product is really starting to piss me off. Can anyone offer any suggestions on #4? I've fixed the others with tape. But I just discovered #4 and I'm really beginning to lose patience here.

Defective phone, return it for a new one.

Yeah I would say that you have a defective phone need to look into getting it replaced or return for another one. As for number 4 the only thing I can think of is something on the camera lense or the backcover of the phone but that would be to easy

someprogr said:
Ok, I purchased an ADP1 last month and have been running into issues since.
So far:
1. Phones been creaky. I had to fix this by putting electrical tape on the chin of the phone.
2. The earpiece makes a buzzing noise, occasionally harder to hear than the caller on the other end. Had to fix this with more electrical tape on the earpiece.
3. The back battery case was making a chirping noise when I held it with my hand. Had to apply electrical tape on the inside of the case to fix that.
4. Now -- Just discovered that my pictures I take have a huge black spot on each of them (I've attached a picture as an example... the spot is usually noticeable during the day time/outside, but thats a picture against a white wall). Does anyone know how to fix this issue/experience this problem as well?
So many problems with this product is really starting to piss me off. Can anyone offer any suggestions on #4? I've fixed the others with tape. But I just discovered #4 and I'm really beginning to lose patience here.
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Get a new one.

man that buzzing sound is really annoying me too... disappointed...
i just dont want to send it in because i paid to have this one unlocked and paid to have a full body shield which i installed on it...
thats like 40 dollars i would lose out on
hopefully you have better luck

kp126 said:
man that buzzing sound is really annoying me too... disappointed...
i just dont want to send it in because i paid to have this one unlocked and paid to have a full body shield which i installed on it...
thats like 40 dollars i would lose out on
hopefully you have better luck
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Yeah, well actually I fixed the buzzing noise with black electrical tape on the keyboard ends. I havent heard the noise since.
As far as the spot goes on my camera lens, I'm going to write a perl script that undertakes gimp and automatically eliminates dust from any pictures I take with the click of a button. Hopefully that will fix that issue.
I'd hate to send it in too and get a 'refurb' that has different problems etc.

Open up the back cover and wipe the camera. Maybe that spot is just a spot on the lens.

someprogr said:
I'd hate to send it in too and get a 'refurb' that has different problems etc.
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Refurbs don't always have "different problems" a refurb is a remanufactured device. Which in most cases is better off then a "Brand New" phone because they go through more testing. I have a "refurb" because of the creaking and I have not experienced anything wrong with this device, and have had it for about 2 months. Not always the case but why "put up"with something that you can have fixed. Also refurbs are not always returned devices due to failure, granted the majority are but some also come back as "buyers remorse" type return. "I didn't like it, I don't want it."
Sorry for the long post but point is don't just "put up" with something because of the misconception that because you are getting a refurb it will automatically have problems. You are just cutting yourself short and will never be happy with your device.

savethechicken said:
Refurbs don't always have "different problems" a refurb is a remanufactured device. Which in most cases is better off then a "Brand New" phone because they go through more testing. I have a "refurb" because of the creaking and I have not experienced anything wrong with this device, and have had it for about 2 months. Not always the case but why "put up"with something that you can have fixed. Also refurbs are not always returned devices due to failure, granted the majority are but some also come back as "buyers remorse" type return. "I didn't like it, I don't want it."
Sorry for the long post but point is don't just "put up" with something because of the misconception that because you are getting a refurb it will automatically have problems. You are just cutting yourself short and will never be happy with your device.
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Sooth. The refurb I'm running (TMo forced me to RMA my initial one in November due to a dead cell tower in my neighborhood) was in better condition than my first one. I love customers at my job that whine, piss and moan about receiving a refurb as a replacement. New items aren't tested and there is an acceptable failure rate out of the box. That's the way it is with EVERY equipment manufacturer where as refurbs are tested and repackaged. Personally, I'll buy used if it was tested as functional and comes with the same warranty (which generally happens). But today's generation is now now now, new new new = better better better.

lol i was typing from g1 so i felt the post was getting to long thus i left out the testing that refurbs go thru. i hear this all day, this is always the biggest complaint but people really dont understand what goes into remanufacturing a device

how about removing the electrical tape from the camera lens.
Just a thought

Ok, well im considering returning it back to brightstarcorp.
There they have to conduct "testing" to determine whether its a hardware problem and its "damaged" or "defective"
Would a dust speck fall under this category?

Wow, so just got my X1a Xperia

So I just received my X1a Xperia in North America from expansys.ca
I have to say it's not what I thought it was going to be for $1,000 dollars.
As soon as I got it, noticed the battery and the charger were removed from their bags.
The actual LCD (viewable LCD display) is slanted on the one side... (The gap between the straight peice of plastc horizontally and the viewable section of the screen is greater on the right side than the left... Kinda miffed about this, it's small but Im neurotic and notice these things...)
The back cover of the phone (not the battery cover) was higher and sharp, and not level wiht the battery covery. After closer inspection, I pushed on it, and it snapped into place (it wasn't fully snapped on during manufactoring I guess).
The Camera button doesn't feel secure, and the optic pad for scrolling is very loose and I'm wondering if it is going to fall off...
THANKFULLY the unit has no cracks, hahaha. Kinda also miffed about the sliding. I'm getting scared how easy it is to pull and have the top seperate from the bottom....
Anyone else have any of these issues? For 1,000 bucks I was expecting a bit more. I thought it may have been a re-pack from expansys, but the factory screen protect was on waiting to be pealed off, and when I started the phone it started the initial WM config stuff.
Is there any way to find out how long the phone has been powered on?

why are you buy an X1a for 1 Grand? That's ridiculous.

why not return it, and get it from buy.com for $720 i think you can even get it at sonystyle.com for $799.
I got my x1a from buy.com and had no problems.

Well
Well, it is possible to check in the registry how many power cycles the phone has had. However, this is only accurate if the firmware has not been reflashed since. I think (but not sure) that even a hard reset will reset this effectively rendering this method practically useless. I have noticed it when looking through with SkTools.
The fact the screen protector is on means nothing about the phone being factory, the screen or covering could easily have been replaced if it's a reconditioned.
This sounds nothing like the real build quality of the Xperia. I'm a perfectionist myself and would notice these problems. My touchpad/scrollpad is perfectly secure, the slide is tight, screen is perfectly aligned, and I mean perfectly. The camera button should have no more than half a millimetre play from front to back when looking at the screen, and none in any other direction, even with a lot of use that is the current condition of mine.
Sounds to me like your phone has been rebuilt or you've been very very unlucky.
That being said, expect the keyboard to become a problem after a couple of weeks, but otherwise it's an amazing phone.

Too bad.
I bought mine 3 weeks ago for less than $550 brand new @ Finland.
Optic pad seems loose on my xperia too.

As for the price. The X1a are more pricey than the X1i due.
I needed the X1a to make sure HSDPA works in North America... I don't really care about the price anyways, I shopped around for an X1a and I trust (or atleast trusted Expansys).
I sent an e-mail off to Expansys to find out if it was B-stock or a repack, I'm waiting to hear from them.
I'm wondering if the battery and the charger were removed from their sealed plastic bags because they needed to test them in another device or something...
The only REAL big piss off is the screen... Even though it's a small issue, the blank gap between end of the display and the plastic peice where the buttons start, the right side is 1/16ths of an inch bigger on the right side, compared to the left side. I'm just wondering if a component of the screen is damaged or misaligned... I don't want it to start bending after a while.
I'm concerned about the warranty too as I'm in Canada. I have 15 days to send it back (at my own expense), I'm not to sure if Sony would warranty a product they don't sell in my country...

Start the return process right away. There's no reason for you to keep that phone with the condition you received it in.

Zhariak said:
THANKFULLY the unit has no cracks, hahaha.
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Well, not YET. Mine got cracks at the stylus hole when I had it for 4 to 6 weeks. Good luck and you should really return it before it is too late =P

Ok, soo quick question...
Ive had 10+ windows mobile devices in my life. Everytime I turn them on for the first time (brand new), it ALWAYS asks you to align the touchscreen.....
The Xperia booted up and had confiuration questions, but what's odd is that it didn't ask me to align the touchscreen....
Does anyone know if the X1a prompted them to align the touchscreen when they first unboxed and powered it up?
Also, anyone know the registry key for turn on and offs?

Yes it should ask you to align the touch screen for the first time. Does the phone look like it's been used??? Just return it...I think Rogers is releasing the X1 for $299 w/ 3 year contract...no?
I bought my X1i for $400 brand new

1k?
rofl ... i paid 100€
u can get it here for 350€ new.
wanna buy mine? 800 Bucks

Wow, so I'm an idiot. It has been powered on...
I wasn't promtped for a touchscreen alignment, AND looking at Call history, 333 was dialed once a few days ago, and 222 has been dialed twice a few days ago. All calls lasted for 30 seconds to 2 minutes...
Anyone know what 333 or 222 could be?

By the way, I want to thank everyone for their help... These forums r0x0r! haha
Anyone know howto reset the phone (all my exchange information is entered), I'm returning it for a new unit...

Just press the two silver keys and simultaneously/after that the Key hidden by the stylus [easily pull out the stylus and put it into the hole in order to press the soft-reset button] ...
Or you turn on youzr device, go to Settings/System/Clear Storage ... enter '1234' and press 'OK'
Kind Regards N0r0

To hard reset:
Hold the two silver keys (under the screen) then press the power button slightly (no more than a second!).

Zhariak said:
As for the price. The X1a are more pricey than the X1i due.
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True, but even at a US Sony Style store the price is $799 US, or $920 CAD. And it can be purchased at other stores new in box for less than that.
As for the warranty, for the X1, Sony will honor the warranty anywhere in the world if you can provide a valid receipt. I called before purchasing my X1i for here in the states.

What's with the hater congregation here? If you don't like it, go sell it and be done with it. No need to spam....

jhendra said:
Yes it should ask you to align the touch screen for the first time. Does the phone look like it's been used??? Just return it...I think Rogers is releasing the X1 for $299 w/ 3 year contract...no?
I bought my X1i for $400 brand new
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nice , mine was used for 360
1 grand is just a FRAUD

Well, that comment about Sony providing warranty service anywhere in the world with a valid receipt is awesome!
I remember once I had to get warranty work done on my Motorola MPX220, and they just wouldn't do it even though it was brand new, hahaha...
I ordered another one, and FedEx is picking up the problem one tomorrow morning.
Super stoked to have another "unboxing" haha. Return department at Expansys even said they would check the stock before shipping to make sure it doesn't have any damage to the box and stuff

sounds like you got ripped off bro

Gorilla glass won't save you if you drop her!

I know there is already a post for dropping your tab but I just want to emphasize that it is very easy to drop her as the size of the tab, it's hard to have a good grip/control of the device. It's not like you could easily put it in your front pocket or hold it tight in your palm.
This is nothing news but in case you're naive as I was...
After using the tab as the phone for a few days, I seriously doubt that I will use it as a phone again (perhaps it's just me, clumsy boy). I dropped the thing onto the tile floor while trying to scan the barcode, the screen is...gone. That's right, $650 (after 4 days) is now sitting in the closet waiting for a miracle to happen
To my surprise, Samsung can't do sh*t about it. This makes me rethink about owning Samsung devices (laptop, TV, monitor, DVD drive). I know it's an accident but you got to be able to repair/replace the screen!!!
I'm still trying to contact different phone #s to see if they could repair it.

silversubie said:
I know there is already a post for dropping your tab but I just want to emphasize that it is very easy to drop her as the size of the tab, it's hard to have a good grip/control of the device. It's not like you could easily put it in your front pocket or hold it tight in your palm.
This is nothing news but in case you're naive as I was...
After using the tab as the phone for a few days, I seriously doubt that I will use it as a phone again (perhaps it's just me, clumsy boy). I dropped the thing onto the tile floor while trying to scan the barcode, the screen is...gone. That's right, $650 (after 4 days) is now sitting in the closet waiting for a miracle to happen
To my surprise, Samsung can't do sh*t about it. This makes me rethink about owning Samsung devices (laptop, TV, monitor, DVD drive). I know it's an accident but you got to be able to repair/replace the screen!!!
I'm still trying to contact different phone #s to see if they could repair it.
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Look for teardown pics/videos and screens should be on ebay by now

On devices such as these, I would've gotten insurance. But its too late for that. Sorry for your loss.

silversubie said:
I know there is already a post for dropping your tab but I just want to emphasize that it is very easy to drop her as the size of the tab, it's hard to have a good grip/control of the device. It's not like you could easily put it in your front pocket or hold it tight in your palm.
This is nothing news but in case you're naive as I was...
After using the tab as the phone for a few days, I seriously doubt that I will use it as a phone again (perhaps it's just me, clumsy boy). I dropped the thing onto the tile floor while trying to scan the barcode, the screen is...gone. That's right, $650 (after 4 days) is now sitting in the closet waiting for a miracle to happen
To my surprise, Samsung can't do sh*t about it. This makes me rethink about owning Samsung devices (laptop, TV, monitor, DVD drive). I know it's an accident but you got to be able to repair/replace the screen!!!
I'm still trying to contact different phone #s to see if they could repair it.
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Although this is the least that would interest you right now, but can you give a description of how it fell on the ground. Did it fell with the screen down? Or did it fell on its back, sides? This info could be great for knowing how to protect the Tab.

appelflap said:
Although this is the least that would interest you right now, but can you give a description of how it fell on the ground. Did it fell with the screen down? Or did it fell on its back, sides? This info could be great for knowing how to protect the Tab.
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It landed on the back and flipped over. I was holding it about 3" up.
Thanks for the condolences guys. I will keep watching out on eBay.

Sorry for your loss but I don't see how me breaking my new toy would make me think twice about owning Samsung products in the future or any other manufacturer.
Next time, get a protective case for such a device.

Thats a sad sight
But ive dropped mine from about chest hight onto a pavement on the Tabs upper left corner and I have no scratches at all. Guess I was just really lucky.
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I have dropped mine, while in a soft case from an old netbook (9 inch) from about 1,5 meters to concrete. It landed on its edge and then face down, and miraculously absolutely no damage was made!
It is very creepy thinking how easily silversubie's got ruined!
I guess i was too damned lucky at the time.

I can't imagine parts being available sooo soon since it was just released. And I wonder if the bigger Gorilla Glass makes a difference as opposed to smaller screens like N1. Cause my N1 fell about 4 feet off something I had it set on and the glass I believe hit the metal on my chair. I picked it up and the screen protector was torn but no damage on the screen itself. I assuming the protector help but a there were no damage. I was please with the durability of the Glass on there.
I wish you luck finding part or getting it repaired. Good luck

To OP, did you have a case on your tab?

konawayne said:
To OP, did you have a case on your tab?
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No, I didn't have protected case. This is the 1st tab I eva own so...noob here Again, I'm completely admitted that it's my fault, well, it's an accident but Samsung telling me is not repairable is unacceptable. YMMV.

silversubie said:
No, I didn't have protected case. This is the 1st tab I eva own so...noob here Again, I'm completely admitted that it's my fault, well, it's an accident but Samsung telling me is not repairable is unacceptable. YMMV.
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Maybe i am mistaken but i think is against the law refusing to repair a product that is in production. Giving you a price that is way to much to be repaired is one thing but refusing to do so... you should talk to a lawyer.
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As with anything like this, the bigger the glass coverage, the weaker it will be at certain points. The damage on that screen would indicate a higher height than what you've suggested, but there's lots of factor points.
Obviously the screen on the tab is going to be a bit more fragile than that on a Galaxy S, because it's so much bigger. Did it hit something or did it drop flat. By the sound of it, it contacted the ground more than once, at different impact locations (It initially hit, then bounced and made impact again on another leading edge. It may have survived the initial impact, but the impact from the other point was probably too much for it.
Damn unlucky mate, that's all I can say.
Will your home insurance not cover it, as it was done within your house?

Omg, sorry man

What's all the fuss about the "Gorilla" glass. Honestly it's a shame it can break so easily. I was going to buy one, but am seriously reconsidering now
And Samsung refusing to repair it is just unbelievable
I was thinking about using it as my phone but if I have to put on top of it a protective case it will be even bulkier. Maybe better go with a Dell Streak... (Seems to survive shocks better)
Anyway, sorry for your loss...

Thanks to Tiamath99 & risq for the suggestions. I will have to check them out. I already filed a complaint with BBB. Will have to see what the outcome is.
To be honest, I love the Tab a lot and kinda miss it. But with this quality, especially with 2 kids in the house, i will prolly look for a cheaper tablet (Archos, name_your_favorite_here). If it happens again, I dont' feel too bad about the price tag. I know you could get the protected case but I don't think they could guarantee 100% protection.
Also, as time goes by, I'm sure eBay will pop up with replacement glass. I'm just still very unhappy about the jerk @ Galaxy Tab S help line Alex Nen @18773924252 (I guess I should call a different #) told me that Samsung can't do anything about it.
If you have seen other posts, the users can't even register the tab @Samsung site. When I first called in and request a repair service, the rep told me I will receive an email within 48 hours and call them back. I waited for a week no email. Then I called in again, another rep told me that the Tab is so new and they don't know how to handle repair LoL And when I tried to submit repair request from Samsung site, it keeps telling me that my address is invalid and won't let me go to the next step. WTF?
So, in short , be prepared and be careful with your tab as Samsung doesn't know what they're doing. I guess it will be a few more weeks or months, they will finally know how to handle support.

Alcibiade said:
What's all the fuss about the "Gorilla" glass. Honestly it's a shame it can break so easily. I was going to buy one, but am seriously reconsidering now
And Samsung refusing to repair it is just unbelievable
I was thinking about using it as my phone but if I have to put on top of it a protective case it will be even bulkier. Maybe better go with a Dell Streak... (Seems to survive shocks better)
Anyway, sorry for your loss...
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Thank you. I actually very am tempting about getting Dell Streak. Decent size & Froyo ready. The local AT&T store doesn't have it yet unfortunately. I'm waiting for $99 or something similar with renewal plan.

Possible ... ?
To OP:
If you purchased the tab on a credit card ... check your agreement. Some offer "purchase protection" which will cover a loss/damage, accidental or otherwise, withing a certain period of time up to a defined limit.
I purchased a new PC and within 60 days had a flood in my home. The PC was sitting in 4" of water and was destroyed because all the major components were towards the bottom of the case. They covered the loss up to their max ($500.00us) (pc costs me $505.00us). Hopefully this is the case for you and you'll at least get something to replace it.
Good luck.

Sorry for your loss. My one year old son dropped mine from 1 meter. It survived without any damage/scratches. May be because it was kept in retail package, that it could survive the impact.
Also, never forget that it was just a tablet and not anything more than that. I mean; money lost can be earned back, but you can't reverse the time you lost mourning the damage. Get over it and buy the super AMOLED Galaxy Tab 2.0 whenever available next year

Didn't found any Galaxy replacement screen at this time but you can add the following site on your bookmark to check daiyl if available. Usualy they're very reactiv and have parts only a few days after phone available in stores.
http://shop.brando.com/index.php (for me the best)
http://cnn.cn/shop/
No "How to" available at this time but you can see an open galaxy tab at
http://www.jkkmobile.com/2010/11/sa...tml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Hope this would help

Considering a Nexus 7... screen separation?

So what's the consensus? I was really considering picking up a Nexus 7 until I read about the screen separation issues. I used to have an ASUS Transformer and really liked ASUS's build quality. Is the Nexus 7 really that bad? I don't like the idea of buying a $250 tablet and then having to open it up and modify it just to make it work properly. (Especially since the iPad Mini is rumored to be released next month.)

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So what's the consensus? I was really considering picking up a Nexus 7 until I read about the screen separation issues. I used to have an ASUS Transformer and really liked ASUS's build quality. Is the Nexus 7 really that bad? I don't like the idea of buying a $250 tablet and then having to open it up and modify it just to make it work properly. (Especially since the iPad Mini is rumored to be released next month.)
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I personally loved my Nexus 7, and I'm one of the lucky ones who had their screen crack. I should be getting it back today, as it was supposedly fixed under warranty without a charge (guess I plead a good case when I called 4x reminding them I won't be paying for it). Keep in mind just how many of these units were sold. There's a handful of people here on the forums and AndroidCentral, etc., posting about this issue, yes... but go onto an Apple forum and you'll see the same thing.
Has the iPad mini even been announced yet? I keep hearing rumors but nothing solid. If you're somebody who doesn't mind iOS, it's not a bad option to wait, but you'll almost undoubtedly pay more for a similarly spec'd tablet. I personally wouldn't consider it, but that's just my 2c. If you're somebody who is pretty agnostic about it, waiting to see what more options come about is never a bad thing. Just don't catch the waiting disease... if you wait too long, you'll find yourself in a constant waiting hole with no devices you could otherwise be enjoying. :good:
I will say this, though. If you buy a Nexus 7, buy it from a local retailer. It's the same price as the N7 from Google Play, and plus you cut out the shipping time. Sorry Google, but being able to return a faulty N7 (in the event you get one) at a B&M store two miles away is still quicker than your (albeit, still fast) shipping turn around time.

The issue is not as great as the forums would make you believe. After all every single product ever made has a small number of defects.
Don't worry about it would be my suggestion.

Thanks for the suggestions. I guess my main concern is the reports of people going through 3 or 4 Nexus 7's, even at a retail store, before they find one that is acceptable.

I've had my Nexus 7 since it came out. Not a single defect or issue, its been great so far and I love it.

primalmu said:
Thanks for the suggestions. I guess my main concern is the reports of people going through 3 or 4 Nexus 7's, even at a retail store, before they find one that is acceptable.
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As with pretty much any product out there, I always take the online reviews with a grain of salt. A larger percentage of the people who had problems are likely to post compared to those that didn't have problems. Any time I buy something that causes me grief, I am generally ticked enough to want to post about it somewhere, but it rarely occurs to me to post something about products that work as promised and don't have issues.
This does not apply to my N7 because I love it so much I can not stop telling people. Mine has a tiny bit of screen lift that I would not have noticed if I had not read about it. Certainly not enough to want to try to return it. I may try one of the posted fixes but even that seems unlikely. Can't find the downtime...

The issues are there and they are real!
First Nexus = Creaking and Screen separation
Second Nexus = Screen separation
Third Nexus = Screen separation
Fourth Nexus = Severe creaking
Its sooooo sad as I love everything else about this freaking tablet! But the quality issues are out there just so you know it.

Huge issues
I think the screen lift screen crack and screen becoming un responsive is a HUGE Issue.. Its not just this forum where you see compalints.. You see it from tech reviews and so on.. I know that this is Hyped up causing to to be a bigger issue then it is . But the issue is not just the defects . Its how google and Asus has chosen to deal with this.. They have had my money cost of 3 tablets locked away due to exchange waiting . I Call and email with no response other then we will foreword it to a specialist .
I say get One From a Bick and Mortar store with a good reputation for taking care of there customers .. Buy a Extended warranty to where the STORE Has to deal with your device If and when it breaks.. I have never in my life seen such a Lack of Customer Service or Lack of Response for such issues .. Im left to where if i do not get a shipping confirmation and PAYMENT BACK TO MY BANK i will Have to file a complaint because im near the required time to do so with my card ... This is Pathetic..
so to everyone who says THERE IS NO ISSUE. READ THE INTERNET... im happy you have a perfect device it does happen But im getting the feeling there are as many defective ones as good ones...
OP if it seems like im trolling your Thread i am very sorry .. Just want to clear up some of the above GET IT GET IT COMMENTS. There are issues with this device . yes you can get lucky and get a good one.. JUST BE AWARE TO NOT GET IT FROM GOOGLE PLAY

"so to everyone who says THERE IS NO ISSUE. READ THE INTERNET... im happy you have a perfect device it does happen But im getting the feeling there are as many defective ones as good ones... "
Good advice, because everyone knows that everything you read on the internet is 100% true!!!!

I have one that has slight screen lift and creaking, but It's honestly not bad enough for me to worry about. I can't detect it unless I carefully look at it from the side, or press on the screen hard enough to make it flex. The case I have it in completely hides the problem.
Now, should it happen? No. But I bought a Nexus 7 because it was a fairly high-spec tablet that I didn't have to pay $500 for. I'm willing to accept a few compromises, especially when the cure (on-phone time, a bad refurb replacement) could be worse than the disease.
To minimize hassle, do what others have suggested and buy locally from a retailer with a good return policy.

dparrothead1 said:
"so to everyone who says THERE IS NO ISSUE. READ THE INTERNET... im happy you have a perfect device it does happen But im getting the feeling there are as many defective ones as good ones... "
Good advice, because everyone knows that everything you read on the internet is 100% true!!!!
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bonjour!!! - state farm commerical. lol

primalmu said:
Thanks for the suggestions. I guess my main concern is the reports of people going through 3 or 4 Nexus 7's, even at a retail store, before they find one that is acceptable.
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The prevalence of screen lift is not being exaggerated. It's a widespread flaw, the cause of which is present in every unit. That's not to say that every display is separated, but the way the devices have been assembled through August (C8O serials) has left every Nexus 7 with an inadequate bond under the left side of the display.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29194958&postcount=372
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30703449&postcount=1
Although the adhesive is weak in that area, some other stress should be required to actually force the underside of the display away from the frame. That force is either frame warp or pressure from internal components. ASUS has begun omitting screws from the left side of the device in an attempt to remove some of the stress behind the separation. This points to frame warp as the primary contributor, but it's a partial fix at best.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870556
The fact that ASUS is now implementing reductive measures against screen lift as part of its assembly process should lay to rest any doubts about the scope of this flaw.
Having said that, I would not advise against buying a Nexus 7. It's still the best 7" tablet available, not to mention the best value for a tablet of any kind.
I went through three units with lift before deciding to wait it out, but this was not necessarily the correct decision. My second unit had merely the slightest lift and was well worth keeping, but users on this forum misled me to believe that screen lift was a rare thing so I exchanged it. My third one had more lift and exhibited distortion when pressed along the left side. That one was not worth keeping, so I decided to return it and wait for this issue to be fixed. Not sure if that's going to happen.
Like JaSauders said, the probability of lifted glass cracking during normal use seems very low, and if flexing the display caused a row of dead pixels, or any other sort of display failure, that would be covered under warranty.

I will say this, i never noticed the screen separation until I came to these forums and read about it, HOWEVER, now that I know about it, it drives me crazy.
On the flip side, if you plan to use a case that covers the bezel, you experience or see it anyway, so its not a big deal.
I haven't experienced any other issues aside from the screen seperation, and even then its not noticeable until you start messing with it.

I don't believe the problem is that uncommon.
Both units I've received so far have had the problem to some extent. The first one had it really bad and I exchanged it when I heard that it may be causing screens to crack. The 2nd one also had the problem, but the screen lift was so small that I wasn't worried about it. I still ended up exchanging the 2nd unit because of other issues (mostly the oleophobic coating was rubbing off) and should be receiving my 3rd one today.
If it means anything though, even with the screen lift problem, I still consider this the best tablet for the price and I have no interest in the new Kindle Fire or iPad Mini.

myke66 said:
I will say this, i never noticed the screen separation until I came to these forums and read about it, HOWEVER, now that I know about it, it drives me crazy.
On the flip side, if you plan to use a case that covers the bezel, you experience or see it anyway, so its not a big deal.
I haven't experienced any other issues aside from the screen seperation, and even then its not noticeable until you start messing with it.
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Putting case over the edge of the tablet is NOT a fix for the screen separation issues . Eventually the glass will move enough from this causing it to become weak. or a piece of dirt will get under the screen and it WILL CRACK Or crumble. Anytime hard glass is put in a situation where it can move independently being twist or bent It will weaken and crack .
I know this from Structural Engineering classes.. I have been a project manager for high rise construction for much longer then some of those on here are old. . Glass that is scratch / impact resistant MUST BE SECURED PERFECTLY . Must be allowed to expand and contract from edge to edge .. But must be fixed firmly and equally on all sides with no extra pressure or lack of in any area.. THE LAST Sentence here is the ISSUE WITH THE NEXUS TABLET
Now with the above said i to agree its the best Device right now with its size and cpu.. If there were a worthy 7 inch Device i would NOT OWN A NEXUS 7 .. check out the specs on the new corning-FIT Glass... There should be a metal frame for this glass to sit in..and it should over lap the edge of the screen NO GLASS From edge to edge ..
Of course this is all my opinion. Make your own judgement.. But do not Pretend there is not a issue just because you Love your device and you accept less then Perfect...

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Putting case over the edge of the tablet is NOT a fix for the screen separation issues . Eventually the glass will move enough from this causing it to become weak. or a piece of dirt will get under the screen and it WILL CRACK Or crumble. Anytime hard glass is put in a situation where it can move independently being twist or bent It will weaken and crack .
I know this from Structural Engineering classes.. I have been a project manager for high rise construction for much longer then some of those on here are old. . Glass that is scratch / impact resistant MUST BE SECURED PERFECTLY . Must be allowed to expand and contract from edge to edge .. But must be fixed firmly and equally on all sides with no extra pressure or lack of in any area.. THE LAST Sentence here is the ISSUE WITH THE NEXUS TABLET
Now with the above said i to agree its the best Device right now with its size and cpu.. If there were a worthy 7 inch Device i would NOT OWN A NEXUS 7 .. check out the specs on the new corning-FIT Glass... There should be a metal frame for this glass to sit in..and it should over lap the edge of the screen NO GLASS From edge to edge ..
Of course this is all my opinion. Make your own judgement.. But do not Pretend there is not a issue just because you Love your device and you accept less then Perfect...
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My screen never separates to the point where anything could get under it... it just lifts up enough where I can press it back down..I'm not sure that would ever be bad enough to crack the screen. I'm have a C8O build so it may not be as bad as previous models? Im not sure.

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I don't believe the problem is that uncommon.
Both units I've received so far have had the problem to some extent. The first one had it really bad and I exchanged it when I heard that it may be causing screens to crack. The 2nd one also had the problem, but the screen lift was so small that I wasn't worried about it. I still ended up exchanging the 2nd unit because of other issues (mostly the oleophobic coating was rubbing off) and should be receiving my 3rd one today.
If it means anything though, even with the screen lift problem, I still consider this the best tablet for the price and I have no interest in the new Kindle Fire or iPad Mini.
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Update: Got the 3rd unit
It's one of the new C8O models and it's the best one I've gotten so far.
No screen lift, no flickering, none of the issues I had with the previous ones.
It's pretty much flawless as far as my eyes can tell.

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Update: Got the 3rd unit
It's one of the new C8O models and it's the best one I've gotten so far.
No screen lift, no flickering, none of the issues I had with the previous ones.
It's pretty much flawless as far as my eyes can tell.
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Congrats My C8O had minor lift, but last night I decided to glue it down and now its fine. Two drops of super glue and 5min later I havent had a problem all night/this morning. Played a bunch of 3D games to really heat it up and its golden.

I have the screen lift issue, but I have decided not to replace it. I would recommend that customers purchase the extended warranty at the store if in fact covers broken displays.
That said, I just rub down the face with a microfiber cloth before use and the lift is eliminated for a duration. Helps with the finger prints too.
That said, once a competing tab is released with the same specs I'd recommend that one instead. This QA issue will make me avoid Asus in the future. Google needs to vet OEMs better next time.

I've had four Nexus 7 tablets that have all had screen lift on the left side. Just got my latest one yesterday and it still has the issue. I've purchased lots of tablets and gadgets and this having to exchange something this many times and still getting a defects two months later is hardly normal or expected.
Fortunately the raised glass doesn't impair the functionality of the table (normally) and the tablet is pretty nice with stock Android Jelly Bean, Tegra 3, high DPI screen, and only $200/250. So all it's good points do outweigh ASUS incompetence to manufacture the tablet properly.

Device bend!!?!?

Help me. I was just walking with my device in my pocket. Then I sit down and I see that my device is bend?! What Can I do? And why my device is bend? Hasn't everybody other got that problem?
I really can't understand! If I send my device to assistance they will fix it for free? (I'm under warranty) Thanks for answers and Sorry for bad english

wow, you need to apply a lot of force to bend it, I think the guarantee can not do anything for you, but you can try.
bend test: (see from 1:50) It looked resistant for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkg28dRJXQ0

My G4 Plus is also bent! I only had it in my front pants pocket, not sat on it or done anything out of the ordinary.. I've been in touch with Motorola support but they say that their warranty doesn't cover physical damage, I argued that this is a design flaw but they aren't budging, they keep saying it's a "chargeable repair". I've been a loyal Moto G user since the 2nd Gen, I've never damaged a phone before (not even cracked a screen!) and certainly never bent one! So for them to imply I've not taken proper care of it is a slap in the face. In fact, here's the last email I received from them:-
"According to our warranty terms and conditions, physical damages are out of warranty regardless of the circumstances.
As this phone is bigger than the ones you had before, it is indeed more likely to get damaged if you leave it your pocket and sit on it for example. It is up to our repair centre to look at your phone and see if there is a manufacturer's fault or if it is proper physical damage that happened because you did not take proper care of the device.
Unfortunately, we cannot tell you in advance what this diagnosis will be since only our certified repair centre will see your phone. But as physical damage is never repaired in warranty, it is very likely that you will get a quote.
I understand your dicontent, but our warranty terms and conditions cannot be bypassed, I am truly sorry.
For any further assistance or information please do not hesitate to contact us, quoting your Customer Reference number."​
I'm extremely disappointed and angry that I've wasted hundreds of pounds on the top-spec G4 Plus, only for it to basically be made of chocolate! If this is what they call product design and customer service then I will never buy Motorola/Lenovo anything ever again.

My phone also bent (g4+). Having problems with customer service. Any one ever had this problem resolved?

umm
They don't bend by themselves
Obviously not a warranty issue.
I bent my my Nexus 5 ruined it. My bad.

That sounds bad dude.
Can you upload a photo of the phone bend?

wearing mine in my front pocket as well. It seems that a lot of force is required to bend this. The guy from the video that hyof posted actually bends it back to straight once he applied an excessive force to it to get it to bend slightly.
You could actually advertise your Moto G4 Plus as curved screen smartphone .
Hopefully you get your issue resolved. May the force be with you...

Well I gave up on the G4... a month or so ago it stopped charging properly unless the phone/USB cable was balanced just so, and then it would take hours for full charge. I'm currently in NZ until next year and they said I had to send the phone back to UK for repair for software reasons, which would have cost a bit and then probably cost me for a "repair". I said I won't buy Lenovo or Motorola again (shame, as the P2 with 5100mAh battery sounds pretty good) so have bought a replacement OnePlus3.. which it turns out is a much better phone than the G4. Well, for now at least! :fingers-crossed:

Wow, I was going to buy this device, but this may be a deal breaker. Can someone post a picture of the bend? I'd like to see how bad it is.

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Wow, I was going to buy this device, but this may be a deal breaker. Can someone post a picture of the bend? I'd like to see how bad it is.
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Bending isn't something that happens easily. I have 2 G4s and they bend no easier than the G2 or G3 I owned. Any phone will bend if you apply enough pressure to it.

Tel864 said:
Bending isn't something that happens easily. I have 2 G4s and they bend no easier than the G2 or G3 I owned. Any phone will bend if you apply enough pressure to it.
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Maybe I tend to be a bit paranoid about my devices. I know that any phone bends or breaks if enough force is applied, but some are more fragile than others. I had the first G, the X and the second E, and they all were very sturdy devices. I was very surprised reading this tread.

I like to think I also take care of my phones, but I feel that this one was a bit too delicate. I've owned many phones over many years without damaging them, and specifically a Moto G2 and a G3 for a longer period than 5 months without damaging either, but the G4 was bent within a couple of months of ownership (to be honest, I don't think I could bend a G3 without snapping it! The G4 is only about 1cm taller but quite a bit thinner) Now the bend itself didn't seem to damage the phone, it still worked fine but when it stopped charging a month or so ago that was the last straw for me.
https://goo.gl/photos/SdoQvGQmAxhibr4K8
I've attached a photo of the bend (I think, never done this). It's difficult to make out but it's around the area of the volume rocker. It doesn't seem much of a bend but you can definitely feel it in your hand, especially with the back not fitting flush and creaking - I noticed it myself within a few seconds of picking it up the next morning.
Now I was very happy with the phone, I was recommending Moto Gs to all my friends before this and before the charging problem I could have easily lived with the slight bend. So if you are certain you won't put too much (but how much?!?) pressure on it then get yourself one, I'm sure you won't be disappointed. Unless it mysteriously stops charging properly that is

definitely visible, sorry to hear about your experience. I will definitely pay more attention with my phone now after seeing this. Btw. the best way to show the bend is to look along the edge of the phone back to front while holding it horizontally.

Pretty much any phone will bend if mistreated.
If i bend mine i'm gonna whine in this thread.

That really sucks so see that happen to your phone.
I feel like a lot of the issues that have been happening to people like overheating and so, seem to be determined by pure luck.
I've been putting my screen face down when I sleep and because of the tempered glass screen protector and no case, it's been sliding around while I sleep, I find myself waking up on my side with my phone directly under my shoulder and it doesn't seem to have bent in any way.
Hopefully you get this sorted out.

trsix said:
Pretty much any phone will bend if mistreated.
If i bend mine i'm gonna whine in this thread.
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Yes you do that. Now we know that just putting it in your pocket is 'mistreating' it, we know not to do that. Thanks for your informative and helpful post.

meamo said:
Yes you do that. Now we know that just putting it in your pocket is 'mistreating' it, we know not to do that. Thanks for your informative and helpful post.
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Don't feed the trolls. It happened and anybody should feel sorry for the person this happened to - it could be me and you next. We all know how to be careful with our devices. We also understand that this is not a widely reported bend-gate issue. We therefore expect the manufacturer's response to warranty claims to be most likely negative.
It could be an isolated device build problem that made this particular phone or phones more susceptible.
Personally, i would try to live with the bend if hardware is not affected, or try to bend it back, or try to wear it facing the other way for a little bit too see if it bends back.
Good luck.

Wow! I've carried my phone in my front pants pocket numerous times and have never seen any bend in it. It is as straight as it can possibly be. However, I do have a case on it so maybe that is the difference?? Don't know, just wondering.

Hell, do you use it naked? I mean without any case? Have not happen to me and I do have a rude use with it. Hope warranty makes it for you, cheers.

no bend