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So I installed it yesterday (and thanks to all those who helped).
I think the new ROM is FANTASTIC. Everything works for me, its faster than before and I have no lags. Im using Launcher Pro because the new Blur doesn't support scrolling widgets.
Battery is definitely better (turned on at 6am and had 15% at 6pn which us amazing for me).
Camera has been improved. Pictures look sharper and the colors no longer look weird. I owned an sgs2 and to me the pictures are just as good (and definitely better than the Sensation I owned for a bit). Its also much faster (put it in sport mode and virtually immediate).
Fingerprint reader works. Properly. Period.
Sound on speaker is excellent. Its still the best device on the market.
Sound on earpiece might be a little quieter. I am not certain on this but its something I noticed on my first call.
Gps lock is very quick. It was before too.
Software. Wow what a MASSIVE improvement. Email software is finally useable readable and possibly as good as Sense. Widgets are also better, like weather. Photo software and gallery better. MUSIC is a different application totally. I think I preferred the old one or just need to get used to it. Dialer is improved. Video playback is still great and again an area where this device excels over others I have owned. Animations also very cool. Top bar and notifications simply better than before. Entire color scheme is improved.
Stock keyboard is better but I still make a lot of mistakes when typing. HTC still make the best Android keyboard IMHO and I wish I could port the Sensation keyboard.
Overall its just more elegant and mire pleasurable ti use. For the first time I feel like its a device to show off. I really believe its the best device out there. Had Moto started out with this ROM it would have been considered a device as good as the HD2 in its day.
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I agree that Gingerbread by far is better than Froyo. My Atrix looks and runs so much better.
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ernestdefoe said:
I agree that Gingerbread by far is better than Froyo. My Atrix looks and runs so much better.
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After one day on gingerbread, I'd have to say the keyboard's the biggest improvement for me. An @ key without having to press alt first? Yes! Long press keys for numbers? Yes!
I agree. It's a fantastic upgrade and the new skin is slick....my only complaint is that homescreen scrolling isn't as fast as I expected. The forest LWP is a little slow, and pinch to zoom on stock camera gallery isn't as good as my previous phone or 3rd party market apps
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its is an amazing difference
before making the plunge I wud like to know from u guys about the screen gradient issues
is it solved??
like skin tones appeared really odd and washed out
I thot it was a software issue as the screen grabs also showed them on my PC
that was a big gripe for me but for the otherwise near perfect phone
and ya camera quality was also really poor
Are you talking about kenns?
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dunno whom u are asking but am still on froyo
wud love to hear that screen issues are solved
leaving aside the pentile issue as SGS also has pentile but looked better
Battery life is the biggest improvement forvmr
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I freakin love the new ROM. Thanks KP!
They have made a smart move by selecting a color scheme that greatly reduces the effect of the inherent technical limitations of a Pentile LCD! Its better than Froyo but I guess only because of the color scheme they have decided to go with!
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They have made a smart move by selecting a color scheme that greatly reduces the effect of the inherent technical limitations of a Pentile LCD! Its better than Froyo but I guess only because of the color scheme they have decided to go with!
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Even if the color scheme didnt change its 10 times better. Im tired of the complaints about the phone, go get a different one and/or dont complain about this one. We dont care to hear it.
Loving the new rom so far. I do think the cardock app got worse (looks better, but fewer custom buttons). I love how you can uninstall apps using a long press from the app drawer.
I'm also looking forward to trying the ignore call, respond with text option.
Last thing, wish the default music app worked with Google Music Beta... installed the Google one instead.
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Overall, this seems to be working pretty fantastically for me except for a few things.
- Contact List can get REALLY slow sometimes. (15 seconds to load up a contact's information!)
- Unlocking (the screen, not the phone) can get slow, as well as Facebook and a few other apps. Haven't fully tested yet.
Is this happening to anyone else?
So far, i'm loving the new blur, everything is working fine for me.but i hope this is not the final blur version, because i was watching a demo of blur for droid3 on youtube it looks a little bit better then this. The swipe between screens was different and the quick contact widget was different and more useful.
are you sure about the battery life part.. i got a bad battery life thats the reason why i flashed it back to froyo 2.2.2 ( 1.83 sbf ) .. if you are also using kenneth's beta release >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159385
and if u also talking abotu kenneth's beta one. fingerprint reader doesn't work for me
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are you sure about the battery life part.. i got a bad battery life thats the reason why i flashed it back to froyo 2.2.2 ( 1.83 sbf ) .. if you are also using kenneth's beta release >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159385
and if u also talking abotu kenneth's beta one. fingerprint reader doesn't work for me
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I'm pretty sure is not talking about the ken release.
ohh so its all about the color scheme that's chosen now!!
neways I will wait till the official release
bit scared by the hard brick numbers
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ohh so its all about the color scheme that's chosen now!!
neways I will wait till the official release
bit scared by the hard brick numbers
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You only hard brick if you try to do the OTA. If you use kennethpenn's method using CWM with an unlocked bootloader you'll have no problem.
i just found that launcher in 3.2 is now as smooth s butter when running at potrait mode. browser speed is also increased slightly. great news to xoom owners
Yeap, in portrait is working really smooth now, I did not use the browser jet... hahahaha
Just one thing, when you change from portrait to landscape or otherwise it still takes some time to adapt, a few seconds but after that... it goes really smooth....
I did tried some mkv files, but they did not work fine for me... I have seen other users that tried them and work fine for them.. I do not know why...
What about upside down? It used to lag badly upside down.
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thats weird my xoom doesn't lag when upside down...I do it often took....well only when I'm charging and am using a dock
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thats weird my xoom doesn't lag when upside down...I do it often took....well only when I'm charging and am using a dock
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Its typically on desktop during screen rotation. I know I'm not the only one whose experienced it, I've seen it mentioned a few times before. Its really odd because being upside down should be no different, at least I assume.
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Its typically on desktop during screen rotation. I know I'm not the only one whose experienced it, I've seen it mentioned a few times before. Its really odd because being upside down should be no different, at least I assume.
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You're definitely not the only one. It was a known issue. Happy to say it's fixed now. Though there's a part of me that still wonders how an issue like that ever made it into a major release in the first place.
i think it turns ALOT faster now. Like, I dont mind turning it because it barely takes time anymore.
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You're definitely not the only one. It was a known issue. Happy to say it's fixed now. Though there's a part of me that still wonders how an issue like that ever made it into a major release in the first place.
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Good to hear, and you and me both wonder that, not only an official release but multiples, from 3.0 through 3.1.
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Thanks for reporting this. It was the only thing I was scanning all the 3.2 posts for, and no one else had chimed in on the matter quite yet.
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You're definitely not the only one. It was a known issue. Happy to say it's fixed now. Though there's a part of me that still wonders how an issue like that ever made it into a major release in the first place.
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It was explained at Google I/O I think. Basically Tegra 2 couldn't handle rotation, so they were forced to do it in software. They've probably come up with some clever tricks to optimize things since then, thus the boost in performance.
i still get lag in launcher at portrait mode. not as bad as before, but still lagging.
On the other hand, its very smooth upside down.
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yeah now that I've installed 3.2 I don't see much of a difference at all. Still too laggy for me.
how about trying few times of reboot? cause mine really as smooth as butter now.. removed adw too
Hi all,
Anyone else noticed the screen isn't as responsive since the 4.1.2 update?
I scroll on the home screen and it goes in the opposite direction.
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Hi all,
Anyone else noticed the screen isn't as responsive since the 4.1.2 update?
I scroll on the home screen and it goes in the opposite direction.
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Yep !!! Deffo !
Also have you noticed, flicking doesn't change the page any more, you have to properly swipe.
Finally have you noticed you can't flick downwards for the Notifications you have to slide it all the way down?
Yep. Agree with this. Why did they change this. Sol annoying
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garpunkal said:
Yep. Agree with this. Why did they change this. Sol annoying
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Atleast its not just me
I haven't noticed this. I was having continual touch screen issues that seemed to get progressively worse as time went on. Days before I received my 4.1.2 update, majority of the time my tablet was unusable it seemed, requiring a reboot to work again. Then I finally got a notification that 4.1.2 was available. Since installing it, I've had *zero* touchscreen issues...
You can check me off next to "I fricken love it", however I have nothing to offer in regard to the other issues that you folks speak of. Maybe they were existent prior and I never noticed, who knows.
Damn, this is true. All. I thought it was TSF shell that I use, but it is not. I almost immediately upgraded to 4.1.2 so I was not that accustomed to 4.1.1, but now that you say, yes. You have to slide all the way, both screens and what bothers me more, notifications. Ugh.
I'm still not sure I'm following this. With both Apex and the stock launcher, I'm not noticing any significant change. If I'm in the app drawer and I want to swipe left or right, I can flick the screen and move my finger all but a half inch and the gesture applies accordingly and I see the screen move. Notifications feel no different as well. Am I missing something?
Same here homepage screens bounce back if I don't follow through with the swipe
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Hey guys, I can flick home screens just fine if I do from the center of the screen. Imagine a vertical line from the camera to the charging port. Flicking from near the edges makes the screens scroll in the opposite direction every now and then.
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Having this exact problem to. For me I would hesitate to suggest that this is more prominent when the tablet just been woken up. Really wish it hadn't changed.
I'm having similar problems on my stock, rooted 4.1.2 N7. It's become harder to flick-swipe between screens and the like. I don't have a screen protector on my device either.
Was first raised in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943613 guess more people are noticing it now. Hope it'll be fixed in 4.2
has anybody tried the 4.2 update to see if it has fixed this?
After updating to 4.2.1 i started noticing this issue in both AOSP browser, chrome, app drawer and notification pulldowns... Annoyed my ass off... anyway, after some hard googling, it appears to be a 4.2.X issue? So after flashing CM10 (4.1.2) the problem is gone, but the 4.2 sweetness is as well...
Please star the issue here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39892
Update:
After flashing 4.2.1 again, everything seems to be working just fine... I'm just left clueless
I used to have the same problem. Can anyone here who has this problem right now tell me if they have enabled "Magnification Gestures" under accessibility in the settings menu? If so, disable it and see if the problem is better.
So I just bought a nexus 10 and among the many reasons for getting one, I want to take notes with it. I've bought myself a nice stylus that works wonderfully on iPads and my galaxy nexus phone. However, writing with the same stylus and exact same apps on my nexus 10 isn't working as one would hope. It seems to lag quite badly in picking up where my stylus is and this forces me to write very slowly so that it will pick up all of my strokes, thus making it pretty much useless in a classroom setting, but, like I said before, I don't see this at all with my galaxy nexus.
So, why am I seeing such a huge difference in performance between these two devices when (I assume) the nexus 10 would be so much more powerful than my phone? Is it the apps or the hardware? And how do I fix this issue without just writing my own note taking app?
I faced no problems working on freenote/ handwriting or myscript calculator ?? I might loook at the stylus and not the N10
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I faced no problems working on freenote/ handwriting or myscript calculator ?? I might loook at the stylus and not the N10
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But I've seen this issue regardless of the stylus used... Even with my finger I see a lag.
I also tried free note on my phone and tablet and am seeing a lag only on the nexus 10. I seriously doubt that it's the stylus, it seems to be isolated to my device...though, I haven't tried this with any other nexus 10 device. I don't know anyone else who has one.
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a wild guess could be that the app aren't optimized for the high resolution screen and that is why they have trouble keeping up.
I haven't tried it myself yet but I will when I get my Nexus next week
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a wild guess could be that the app aren't optimized for the high resolution screen and that is why they have trouble keeping up.
I haven't tried it myself yet but I will when I get my Nexus next week
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That's my best guess so far as well. Thanks in advance for trying this out
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Are you on stock? Or did you root and install a custom ROM? what about a custom kernel?
I have found some ROMs to have far more input lag than others, so that is why I am wondering.
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Are you on stock? Or did you root and install a custom ROM? what about a custom kernel?
I have found some ROMs to have far more input lag than others, so that is why I am wondering.
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I'm on stock everything. I am using Apex Launcher though.
Well stock should be ok. I see the most input lag with custom roms that do a lot to the framework and launcher, such as Paranoid Android.
Did you verify http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36855724&postcount=20
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Did you verify http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36855724&postcount=20
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I actually already saw that thread but thank you for pointing it out.
I haven't touched the Dev options and wouldn't even know how to change the magnification. I've only had the device for about a week or two and haven't had any time to really get playing with it yet.
I use lecturenotes from the play store, haven't had much of a lag issue
Using latest AOKP PUB build and Ktmanta
Also have force 2d GPU rendering on dev options
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jrod091 said:
I use lecturenotes from the play store, haven't had much of a lag issue
Using latest AOKP PUB build and Ktmanta
Also have force 2d GPU rendering on dev options
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Just tried this with both lecture notes and free note (free note had less lag of the two from what I could tell)... It did improve the lag quite a bit, but I'm still seeing a noticeable and significant enough (in my opinion) lag. Seems that one step has been taken... Anybody got any others?
Also, I tried using Seeder but saw no significant difference on my device.
FYI, I'm now rooted but still using stock ROM/kernel.
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Just tried this with both lecture notes and free note (free note had less lag of the two from what I could tell)... It did improve the lag quite a bit, but I'm still seeing a noticeable and significant enough (in my opinion) lag. Seems that one step has been taken... Anybody got any others?
Also, I tried using Seeder but saw no significant difference on my device.
FYI, I'm now rooted but still using stock ROM/kernel.
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Sorry about that, my lag seems very minimal, I've been taking notes in class all semester and it sends I've been able to take them quicker in my n10 then on paper, lol
I'm rooted running AOKP PUB 2/11 wit KTManta kernel (this setup, along with sine customizations to the kernel, have made my tablet really responsive and smooth)
Edit: I guess I don't remember what I had previously written, lol my bad
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I'm still having this problem on stock 4.2.2 (as well as the latest CM nightly), and was wondering if anyone had any fixes. My Jot Classic works okay, but not well enough for any serious note-taking, and considerably slower than the same app/stylus on my nexus 4 and 7. My main issue is that it isn't sensitive enough to write small exponents and subscripts.
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I'm still having this problem on stock 4.2.2 (as well as the latest CM nightly), and was wondering if anyone had any fixes. My Jot Classic works okay, but not well enough for any serious note-taking, and considerably slower than the same app/stylus on my nexus 4 and 7. My main issue is that it isn't sensitive enough to write small exponents and subscripts.
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Do you have force GPU rendering on in developer options? If so, turn that off, it got rid if my lag on lecturenotes after the 4.2.2 update
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Today, I finally got my Nexus 10 and I started to investigate this ominous delay or lag. I indeed observe this lag on my Nexus 10 in LectureNotes and all other handwriting apps that I tested. As far as LectureNotes is concerned, I did a number of careful timing measurements and I think I can definitely exclude that the delay is due to slow drawing or anything like that. It seems that, on a Nexus 10, Android sends input events with a noticeable delay of around 250ms or so if they origin from touching the display, this is why a drawn line lags behind your stylus or finger. However, the delay is absent if you use a mouse (connected via Bluetooth), and hence there is no lag and the line follows the mouse pointer very closely. This is somewhat bad news, as this means that this problem cannot be solved within LectureNotes.
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Today, I finally got my Nexus 10 and I started to investigate this ominous delay or lag. I indeed observe this lag on my Nexus 10 in LectureNotes and all other handwriting apps that I tested. As far as LectureNotes is concerned, I did a number of careful timing measurements and I think I can definitely exclude that the delay is due to slow drawing or anything like that. It seems that, on a Nexus 10, Android sends input events with a noticeable delay of around 250ms or so if they origin from touching the display, this is why a drawn line lags behind your stylus or finger. However, the delay is absent if you use a mouse (connected via Bluetooth), and hence there is no lag and the line follows the mouse pointer very closely. This is somewhat bad news, as this means that this problem cannot be solved within LectureNotes.
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If that is the case, could the input delay be tweaked or removed through kernel modifications?
@EniGmA1987: If my explanation is correct and if one can modify the input handling, this might be possible. It seems that users with non-stock ROMS do not suffer from this problem, but this is just my impression based on contacts with LectureNotes' users and might be wrong.
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@EniGmA1987: If my explanation is correct and if one can modify the input handling, this might be possible. It seems that users with non-stock ROMS do not suffer from this problem, but this is just my impression based on contacts with LectureNotes' users and might be wrong.
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Hey, I'm one of the people that has contacted you, and I can say that the input lag is significantly less on a custom ROM then on stock. Still there, but very slight
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acadoid said:
Today, I finally got my Nexus 10 and I started to investigate this ominous delay or lag. I indeed observe this lag on my Nexus 10 in LectureNotes and all other handwriting apps that I tested. As far as LectureNotes is concerned, I did a number of careful timing measurements and I think I can definitely exclude that the delay is due to slow drawing or anything like that. It seems that, on a Nexus 10, Android sends input events with a noticeable delay of around 250ms or so if they origin from touching the display, this is why a drawn line lags behind your stylus or finger. However, the delay is absent if you use a mouse (connected via Bluetooth), and hence there is no lag and the line follows the mouse pointer very closely. This is somewhat bad news, as this means that this problem cannot be solved within LectureNotes.
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Sorry for not being more involved in this thread...been really busy lately.
I feel that have solved this issue for my current configuration. I've found that with the following setup, any lag that may be occurring is so slight that I either don't notice or I don't mind it:
-Get a stylus that actually works well (I had accidentally bought the first generation of the Adonit Jot Pro which has horrible sensitivity. However, after obtaining the 2nd generation, I've had no problems at all... one of my biggest reasons behind the lag was this 1st generation stylus)
-Stock 4.2.2
-Run Seeder 2.0
-DON'T force GPU handling
-Using LectureNotes Pro
-Create all lecture notes notebooks with a much higher resolution than what is initially set as the default. (This is what made the biggest difference)
From what I've observed, it seems to me that the best explanation behind any significant lag on this device is its extremely high resolution. I assume that most handwriting apps are programmed in such a way that the increase in pixel count hinders the sensitivity of the app itself.
Could you please report if your touchscreen has gotten better or worse afer the update?:fingers-crossed:
Some people are saying that it fixed everything for them, but I just saw someone who said that multitouch has become unusable...
For me it definietly made it, and as I see it became smoother...
(I am using ART with stock rooted ROM)
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It's vastly improved for me on 4.4.2
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It's vastly improved for me on 4.4.2
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But the ghost touch bug is still present. I think this is hardware issue but cannot find any service manual to investigate
Good as gold as with all releases since 4.4
nothing changes
I've seen a little bit of improvement, but I also only had problems under some app-specific conditions. Though, I've noticed the N7 is unusually sensitive to hand/finger temperature. If my hands are even remotely cool, I can't get anything to work. Meanwhile, my S4 in a condom Otterbox Defender reads touches just fine even with freezing hands.
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Its not good! i have problem with multitouch and battery life is down!! and i see a bit lack in this new version!(4.4.2 - Nexus 7 LTE ) .... pls Help me .... how to fix it?
touch screen has been issued in 4.4
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Just updated from 4.4 to 4.4.2. I feel the touchscreen is improved a lot. The transition is smoother.
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Multitouch not grounded is worse after 4.4.1-2
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4.2.2 almost fixes my DEB model
Hi,
My tablet is one of the unlucky ones which were not fixed by sfhub's patches.
Fortunately, the 4.2.2 OTA makes my tablet smoother. Except for 1 inch strip of non-responsive space (little below the top vertical position), things work fine. I see no ghost touches and multi-touch works fine as long as I dont touch that 1 inch part.
Hmm, it takes 3 OTAs and lot of belief in customers like me to get to this state!
Perfect so far since 4.4. Also, tested ungrounded with one and two fingers with Google Maps and no issues.
I haven't tested 4.4.2, but I WAS using SfHubs ts20 on 4.3.
I flashed the TouchScreen Unlock and then back to 100% stock 4.3 and updated to 4.4 naturally using the OTA procedure. Then updated to 4.4.1.
I tested all along the way and it seems to have helped some. Typing isn't as big as a problem but there are still missed touches and generally sucks trying to play action games. 4.4.1 seemed to help a bit again.
I'm going to try this again with 4.4.2 since I've heard good things. If this doesn't fix it, I'm sending it off to Asus. I've heard they are now replacing the touchscreen driver boards with different ones which basically means it is a hardware problem and they know it.
I haven't tried the "stock" drivers yet, still using TS09 but I will revert back tomorrow.
I got a old Nexus 7 from my mobile operator the other day.. damn, what a dream touch wize.. Why cant Nexus 7 FHD work like this? :/ I can actually TYPE on the old Nexus.
Mine seems to be mostly resolved since 4.4.
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