I'm thinking of upgrading my daughter's phone to Android. I have a Verizon Droid X and my wife has a Samsung Vibrant.
I was looking at the G2X and the Galaxy S 4G, but really would rather not spend $200 for a new phone.
T-Mobile has the MyTouch4G for free at the moment.
So, how does it compare to the Droid X and Vibrant? Looks like it's at least on par with both of those spec wise. She'll like the front facing camera.
Is it pretty easy to root?
I'm only looking to do stock ROMs. What's the current stock ROM version? Froyo? What's the word on Gingerbread or beyond making it onto this phone?
How's the build quality in comparison to the G2x and Galaxy S 4G?
How's the battery life?
How much internal memory for programs is there?
Anything else I should know in comparison with those 2 phones?
With a 2 year contract, I'd just want to be sure I get something that will survive for 2 years.
I understand that, coming to this forum, I'll probably mostly hear from people happy with their device, but please do share any negatives as well.
Let me know anything else I should be considering here.
A little search and reading will answer most of these questions, but IMO there's nothing those 2 phones have that makes them worth spending the extra $200. The MT4G is at the top of the current available phones spec-wise, looks and feels good in the hand, and should be powerful enough to remain relevant for the next 1-2 years. If money is a consideration, I'd get the MT4G 100%. I wish I could've gotten mine for free!
That's pretty much what I thought. I mean, I don't really see getting tired of my Droid X anytime soon and this is pretty much on par, if not better, spec wise and my daughter isn't nearly as much of a power user as I am.
She had a broken ipod that I was going to replace for $200. I was adding a 3rd line shortly anyhow, so I figure might as well just pay $0 and $20/mo (loyalty data plan) and get the phone rather than deal with 2 devices. Makes a lot more sense.
I think you're making the right choice. If money wasn't a factor, the MT4G would still be a great choice, but considering the price points, it's a no brainer. And that's my reasoning too: I now just use my phone for media/music as well, haven't even used my ipod in like 2 months. Lol I don't even use my dedicated digital camera anymore, I just use my phone for everything. Lightweight FTW.
I have been an owner of every iphone (2,3g,3gs,4) and went to the mt4g, and I find it very nice in comparison to those. I know you didn't want those compared, but I can't compare if I've never owned a vibrant or a g2x
The battery life on the mt4g is really bad until you learn to manage it well. Mine lasts really long now, even longer than my dad's 2g iphone. GPS is the big drain. Even if programs say "use only when needed" it will use it much more than it should, that was the problem I had.
I did ask vibrant vs mt4g, and the general consensus was mt4g > vibrant. It will last 2 years assuming it's not abused and used as a sports toy or something.
danyune said:
I have been an owner of every iphone (2,3g,3gs,4) and went to the mt4g, and I find it very nice in comparison to those. I know you didn't want those compared, but I can't compare if I've never owned a vibrant or a g2x
The battery life on the mt4g is really bad until you learn to manage it well. Mine lasts really long now, even longer than my dad's 2g iphone. GPS is the big drain. Even if programs say "use only when needed" it will use it much more than it should, that was the problem I had.
I did ask vibrant vs mt4g, and the general consensus was mt4g > vibrant. It will last 2 years assuming it's not abused and used as a sports toy or something.
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I'm just curious, but what made you switch from the iphone? Also - having used both, does music through headphones sound better on the iphone, or about the same? Which overall experience do you prefer? Lol I'm just curious, as I'm a mac guy when it comes to computers, but have never owned an iphone.
lexluthor said:
I'm thinking of upgrading my daughter's phone to Android. I have a Verizon Droid X and my wife has a Samsung Vibrant.
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Let me know anything else I should be considering here.
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I'm pretty much in agreement with previous posters. The specs are still top-notch for the moment and will hold up well for the next year or two. To answer some of your other questions . . .
Yes, it is pretty easy to root, but that's coming from someone who is technically-inclined. If you can work a terminal/console window and understand some basic commands, you should be able to follow the guides. Use the gfree method, it does more than the root.sh script does.
At the moment, MT4G runs Android 2.2.1 (Froyo). I expect there to be a Gingerbread update from HTC at some point, but I'm already running a Gingerbread ROM. Just a heads up, some knowledgeable people have suggested that the stock ROM doesn't play well with root.
Build quality is really nice in my opinion. It has some heft to it, feels pretty solid and not plastic-y like many Samsungs do.
Battery life is dependent on a number of factors as well as your usage pattern. The biggest battery savings for me came from installing a custom ROM without all the HTC Sense overhead and installing a custom kernel, which underclocks the CPU and uses lower voltage settings. Aside from that, it's a matter of being conscious and selective about what connections (GPS, bluetooth, WiFi, accounts sync) you leave open and what apps you let run in the background. Don't use Taskillers.
sunsean said:
I'm just curious, but what made you switch from the iphone? Also - having used both, does music through headphones sound better on the iphone, or about the same? Which overall experience do you prefer? Lol I'm just curious, as I'm a mac guy when it comes to computers, but have never owned an iphone.
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well mainly the fact that I had EDGE speed on every iphone, including the 4, just didn't feel right you know?
I do however prefer the iphone interface, just much smoother to me. I'm also not a person that is into customizing much. My mt4g pretty much looks stock, just removed some stuff like yahoo mail etc.
I do like androids market system better, not having to type a pw everytime. I always hated having to put a CC into my iphone app store just to download free apps.
If the iphone 4 had HSPA speed on t-mobile (which we may see!) then I would use that. I feel that music sounds better on the iphone when I'm walking to places, but maybe that's just bias since I've always owned an ipod or iphone for music.
danyune said:
well mainly the fact that I had EDGE speed on every iphone, including the 4, just didn't feel right you know?
I do however prefer the iphone interface, just much smoother to me. I'm also not a person that is into customizing much. My mt4g pretty much looks stock, just removed some stuff like yahoo mail etc.
I do like androids market system better, not having to type a pw everytime. I always hated having to put a CC into my iphone app store just to download free apps.
If the iphone 4 had HSPA speed on t-mobile (which we may see!) then I would use that. I feel that music sounds better on the iphone when I'm walking to places, but maybe that's just bias since I've always owned an ipod or iphone for music.
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you can download PlayerPro from the market and also the DSP pack for it; lets you change your sound preferences for headset, phone speaker, and bluetooth, like an equalizer. you can also run a different ROM (CM7 has the DSP installed already, DSP Manager i think) and it integrates it with the included music player. the mt4g is awesome! only other phone I would consider is the HTC Sensation, eagerly waiting for it. but the mt4g will last for 2+ years, no worries on that one. rooting the phone is fairly easy, took me a total of 15-20 minutes to flash everything and I was good to go(using rooted stock ROM, never had any problems). battery life on sense is 'fair'...but once you uninstall the bloatware and mess with the settings, I can go 14+ hrs on a full charge. I tried out CM7 and wow...32+ hrs on a full charge, so it depends on the ROM also. the build quality is very good, not plasticy feeling like some other phones, descent weight to it, and has a nice design.
con(s): only issue I have is that the buttons tend to squeak from time to time, but it doesnt really bother me. there is also a good display and bad display version, luckily I got the good display on my first try. the bad version doesnt look much different, but the colors look washed out and a bit blurry at an angle. other than that, the mt4g is a beast
The MT4G is the Best Hands Down
I'm another past owner of the Iphone, 2g, 3g, 3gs and 4G.
Mytouch blows those iphones away, especially when you have rooted the the phone and dropped RoyalGinger 1.6 rom on there.
Sweeeeeet!
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I'm another past owner of the Iphone, 2g, 3g, 3gs and 4G.
Mytouch blows those iphones away, especially when you have rooted the the phone and dropped RoyalGinger 1.6 rom on there.
Sweeeeeet!
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the last few days have changed for me
i finally did the gfree method of rooting, installed CM7 7.0.2 and man it is nice
feels better than the iphone 4 did
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In my opinion its a great choice. But if its for your daughter then that might change things a bit. I love myTouch 4G, and so does everyone in this forum, but we're all geeks to our own respect and we all like this phone for mainly the same reasons. But if its for your daughter to replace her mp3 player then you might want to take a look at the Galaxy S 4G, as long as she doesn't care about not having aa flash on her camera. IMO it's a better media phone than the myTouch 4G. Of course it has a bigger screen with the SAMOLED screen and the music app has a nice equalizer and music sounds awesome. Also the myTouch 4G's sspeaker pales in comparison to the SGS2's. And the SGS2 plays divx videos out of the box which is nice if she likes to watch videos on her phone.
Of course I would still hands down pick the myTouch since it would be free for you and its the best all around phone, but if she doesn't care about updates and a camera flash then I would consider the Galaxy S 2.
Hope this helps!
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Awesome! Glad you're coming to like the phone more. Yeah, rooting and flashing a new rom can do WONDERS for your phone! It literally turns it into a whole new experience. I'm on cm7 too, and it rocks, the DSP manager has been a HUGE improvement in listening to music, I can now use the stock player instead of mixzing/poweramp. I was using those just for the eq, but I prefer the simplicity of the stock music app...and re: the statement about stock rom not working well with root, I think it's true. When I first rooted, I stayed on stock for a week or two, and it wasn't terrible, but something felt off, a little sluggish and bad battery life. Flashing to cyanogen seemed to fix everything.
Don't hate me.
TMo now has a promo for the Galaxy S 4G for free with an add a line.
I'm thinking of swapping.
It's for my daughter. I think the size/weight might be a factor. The Samsung is really a lot lighter. I was surprised how heavy the mytouch4g was.
lexluthor said:
Don't hate me.
TMo now has a promo for the Galaxy S 4G for free with an add a line.
I'm thinking of swapping.
It's for my daughter. I think the size/weight might be a factor. The Samsung is really a lot lighter. I was surprised how heavy the mytouch4g was.
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Lol well considering it's for your daughter, that might not be a bad choice. As someone else said, the Galaxy might be better for that particular user, it's lighter and has better stock media capabilities. Overall, the MT4G is the superior phone, but the Galaxy should be fine for her, especially if you can now get it for free.
A few points about Samsung though: they're generally considered to have inferior builds, break easily, have been reported to have GPS problems, and while the AMOLED screen looks great, it's a huge battery drainer, and from what I hear Samsungs are harder to root and don't offer as many rom/customization options.
All that said, I'm sure it's still a solid phone and your daughter would love it!
I have the origipnal vibrant, so I'm aware. Samsung also terrible wth updates.
Tmo makes the swap easy
Guess we'll visit a store tonight to look.
Well, the most important thing is to get a phone she will like, no matter what brand it is. Hope it works out either way!
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I have heard of several phones being hailed as "The iPhone Killer", namely the Palm Pre that I just got rid of. The EVO seems to just about have everything to take that title and actually live up to it. So, what does it take to kill the iPhone and is the HTC EVO 4G it?
Sorry no.
The evo is great, and I am excited for it to arrive, but there are things about Android that need to be ironed out before it can be an iphone killer. My list of things that need improvement for Android to become the mainstream iphone killer.
1. better marketplace experience/apps - but getting better daily
2. better ways to edit/insert text.
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3. better way to manage gps, you should not have to turn it on or off to use it. My coworkers Droid sometimes leaves the GPS on when she is not using it. Killing the battery.
4. improve the onscreen keyboard
5. force hardware manufactures to use transflective displays
6. MARKETING MARKETING MARKETING. Why is it that everybody including my mother knows how to use an iphone based on the TV commercials yet most of the general public has no idea what Android is?
Nothing on my list is serious, #6 I think is the biggest problem for Android.
this phone is amazing. but it's size and some of the things will make it a 'niche' product.
i think it's better then an IPhone, but i post on development forums and read blogs, will my mother think it's better? hard to say.
So, what does it take to kill the iPhone and is the HTC EVO 4G it?
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Why does it have to be a iPhone killer? Some sort of Apple phone will always be around because there are people that will buy whatever Steve Jobs tells buy and there are a LOT of those people. IMO
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It'll be a long time before anything "kills" the iPhone, however I do believe the Evo is doing an excellent job of pushing Apple to continue to advance to keep ahead. It's hard to kill something that's also growing quickly in features and ability.
Ultimately, I think the Cell wars are just heating up and it will be a great time of innovation all around...lots of competition!
jeffla said:
Sorry no.
The evo is great, and I am excited for it to arrive, but there are things about Android that need to be ironed out before it can be an iphone killer. My list of things that need improvement for Android to become the mainstream iphone killer.
1. better marketplace experience/apps - but getting better daily
2. better ways to edit/insert text.
3. better way to manage gps, you should not have to turn it on or off to use it. My coworkers Droid sometimes leaves the GPS on when she is not using it. Killing the battery.
4. improve the onscreen keyboard
5. force hardware manufactures to use transflective displays
6. MARKETING MARKETING MARKETING. Why is it that everybody including my mother knows how to use an iphone based on the TV commercials yet most of the general public has no idea what Android is?
Nothing on my list is serious, #6 I think is the biggest problem for Android.
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1. Froyo 2.2 has a much better updated marketplace and should address that, and as you said, the app offerings are getting better everyday
2. I haven't really had a problem with editing text, but I agree with your number 4 (as does Google). They have stated the keyboard will receive some attention in further builds.
3. Thats what she should do, the GPS is only active when an application is requesting location. It doesn't hurt the battery at all to leave it on, just so long as you dont have an application that constantly pings your location in the background.
Everything else I agree with, however I think the "Droid Does" campaign for Verizon has been successful.
I know several iPhone 3Ga user that have switched and are never going back.
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I traded my iPhone for the Evo and so did my wife and we're both loving it.
I think it's unfair to call this phone an iPhone killer. They're two different animals. Completely.
It's like comparing a semi to a sports car. Both are automobiles, but that's where the similarities cease. One is necessary when moving heavy objects, capable of doing multiple things as once, and the other does only one thing very very well. You can get a semi tricked out to do 0-100 in under 10 seconds, but can you take a sports car and pull a house down the highway? No. Again, 2 different uses, each with their own unique application.
I use to have an iPhone, still have one actually, but I don't use it ever since I got my first Android here in the US. Would I say that any Android kills the iPhone? Depends on what we are talking about. And it also depends on the user.
My Dad uses the iPhone. He's not super techy. He's perfectly comfortable only running one app at a time, seeing as he only uses less than 20 altogether. Does he need advanced hardware to make a phone call? Nope. In his opinion, there will never be an iPhone killer, because they've managed to take a very basic function phone, give it the ability to run selected apps on the phone, without making it crash. That's the pinnacle of simplicity for him, and I doubt he'll ever change. And there are literally thousands of users like him out there, who could care less about a phones ability to hook into HDMI, or true multitasking, or how fluid the interface is.
I, alas, am not one of them. I care. A lot. To say one person's preference is better than another is crazy. Example: I have a rather wealthy friend who loves to eat overly expensive food. He loves caviar. I've tried it, properly, 6 times. Each time, I've lost the entire contents of my stomach through my mouth. Does that make caviar bad? Nope, it just makes it not for me, and you'll never see me bad mouth caviar. But you may see me wince a bit when it's mentioned.
jeffla said:
Sorry no.
The evo is great, and I am excited for it to arrive, but there are things about Android that need to be ironed out before it can be an iphone killer. My list of things that need improvement for Android to become the mainstream iphone killer.
1. better marketplace experience/apps - but getting better daily
2. better ways to edit/insert text.
3. better way to manage gps, you should not have to turn it on or off to use it. My coworkers Droid sometimes leaves the GPS on when she is not using it. Killing the battery.
4. improve the onscreen keyboard
5. force hardware manufactures to use transflective displays
6. MARKETING MARKETING MARKETING. Why is it that everybody including my mother knows how to use an iphone based on the TV commercials yet most of the general public has no idea what Android is?
Nothing on my list is serious, #6 I think is the biggest problem for Android.
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I would disagree the Iphone is junk that has a really good marketing team. At least I can plug my phone in and charge it when the batt is low and still talk on it. The Iphone shuts down for five min and the market place is under apples rule that's why cydia had to be made. I don't have a Iphone and never had one but have jailbroken a lot for friends and family. All of witch say they will buy a android phone next after seeing how easy it is to modify. Oh yea it's now on it's fourth Gen phone and it just now is getting multitasking. It took three just to do video EPIC FAIL Apple. There should be a new name it's not a smart phone. It's just a average phone can't multitask can't call it smart.
blkswanpres said:
I know several iPhone 3GS users that have switched and are never going back.
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And I am one of them! Unless Steve drops one hell of a bombshell on Monday...
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And I am one of them! Unless Steve drops one hell of a bombshell on Monday...
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Yep, I just switched from a 3GS to the Evo and so far, I love it. Like the OP said, the keyboard does suck though, it's just weird and sloppy compared to the iphone's keyboard. Plus, I don't know if it's just me, but scrolling feels not as responsive as it did on the 3gs.
@ this point in time, the way i feel about apple,windows and atnt, Id rather have a bricked hero than support apple/atnt by purchasing anything from THAT merchandising nightmare. I find it sooooo unbeleivable that 90% of the mobile phone users in the world are uneducated TECHnically speaking. To remind you in case no one has: WE ARE THE MINORITY......the ones that know enough to get the most for our money in a device such as this. My hero put away any thoughts i ever had about using my ipwnd ever again after 2hrs of use. OK i lied, its a pretty good wi fi browser....but are YOU gonna throw your old perfectly functioning iphone away? Back to topic....Apple is like a giant plague infecting the (oooh, imma get an iphone because......ummm everyone i know has one?????????) masses. Man we need more android commercials. Im practically one myself. So sad that ppl still have the MOTO DROID confused with the ANDROID OS......ppl are soo dumb, no offense to those ppl. Just stating some facts, and this is in fact, MY OPINION.
I would say the EVO 4G as a great Iphone replacement but not an Iphone killer. There is no need to make an Iphone killer per se. Iphone and the market place they have created will be very very difficult to beat. There are loyalists that won't leave and there are users that don't want to learn a new OS. Android is best served to try and capture the uninitiated.
Heavy texters loves blackberry and blackberry has done a tremendous job catering to them. The new bold 9800 slider will keep their text heavy base of users.
It's good to have this diversity in this market space. I moved away from Iphone as well but it doesn't mean I can't appreciate their products. I really like android and will continue to use it. Windows mobile 7 will also make my list of things to try. Can't wait.
Come on now people. Why people still caring about the "Iphone killer" ideology? The iphone been killed IMO. We know iphone is a simple interface, dumbed down device anyone can use. Yall's EVO, is light years ahead of Iphone as far as functionality. Remember, no restrictions with Android. Iphone OS, u basically can't do squat off tops. U have to hack it. Android is very customizable right out the box. Iphone had its day already. My tilt 2 blows iphone away. The evo and few others with snapdragon, have just changed the whole game up. Especially with Android on the rise so rapidly now. The new wm7 mobile is now basically copying iphone styles and methods. Of being simple as hell and not letting u do nothing customizable or being able to go into the internal system of it. WM hads its day. The Rise of the Machines has Begin. Android
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I dont like being told what to do with something I own So yeah it's an iphone killer to me. and to the guy complaining about the keyboard download swype it's amazing and revolutionary.
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As pointed out, it doesn't have to be a killer. I believe the iPhone and Android phones can coexist in this exciting new mobile world. My friend switched from an iPhone to the Evo and he loves it. But then again, he's a Linux and electronics geek like me, so the phones appeal to us.
The Evo 4G is without a doubt the best Android rendition yet, but there are some things that iPhone does better.
As far as text editing, the new way of selecting and copying text within emails and websites is AMAZING. Being able to easily select the start and end is brilliant.
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Yep, I just switched from a 3GS to the Evo and so far, I love it. Like the OP said, the keyboard does suck though, it's just weird and sloppy compared to the iphone's keyboard. Plus, I don't know if it's just me, but scrolling feels not as responsive as it did on the 3gs.
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I dont know if anyone has mentioned this. But there are tons of keyboards out there for android. You arent limited to the stock keyboard. Its extremely easy to switch between them as well. So anyone holding the keyboard against google, htc or anyone is just plain stupid (not saying the person i quoted is). Almost every app that comes with the phone can be replaced my a "3rd party" one (assuming htc is the main). So people that complain about an app on the phone is obviously new to android.
I would make a post about this but it would just start a huge arguement/discussion. It seems everyone *****ing about the Evo are people coming from an iphone or just Att in general. I havent seen anyone that complained about something say what alternatives that tried to fix the issue. Its just if the phone isnt what they expected out of the box, they cry about it.
Dont need nothing but swype, and I can't imagine using it on a screen any smaller than this. Is swype even on iphone? Out really is a revolutionary way to type on touchscreen devices.
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iPhone was amazing back in it's day it was ahead of it's time and there was nothing else like it problem is it hasn't really advanced much at all since its been around so it will die out eventually. No phone is ever going to kill it though just because it has a huge customerbase already established. People are still using Motorola Razors and other phones some people will continue to use the iPhone forever as well regardless of how outdated it continues to become.
It's definitely lost it's crown though the EVO is undeniably better in just about every way. iPhone feels ancient when put next to the EVO LOL
Which one wins, and why?
Of course im talking about the new iphone. Ive always wondered what people think...
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You couldn't do a search?
Take what you read with a grain of salt because everybody here is obviously biased towards the EVO. I've never actually used (just briefly played with) the iphone and can't give you an objective, unbiased comparison. I chose EVO because of two reasons: my ~20 yr old Sprint contract was grandfathered in and cant be beat and Apple's a creepy company. Compare Apple to a cult and all you'll be missing is poisoned apple sauce. I don't understand why the leader always wears the same black turtleneck and jeans when making a public appearance and why people applauded and praised him for introducing copy and paste 3 years after introduction of their device. I don't understand Apple or their die-hard unobjective followers, therefore I stay away.
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Have you seen these?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAOtC9QfXac
I also am a long time Sprint customer and changing providers just doesn't make sense. My discounts are really
good. The only thing I like about the iPhone is the games my friends play on the network. Love the Ego!
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I love my android phone, but if the iphone came to sprint I'd add a line to get one. I certainly favor my evo but I do have an ipod and I'd more use it to replace that. Gaming on the iphone seems better to me. I like that it is easy to root android phones and customize them. I don't like that apple is so controlling.
The screen on the iphone 4 is very nice and though seems small is much clearer than my evo. But there truly are benefits to both. The biggest disadvantage to the iphone is the network.
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Lol, those are extremly funny to say the least.
I have been a sprint customer since 01, so ive been with them for some time as well..
How about if the iphone was on sprint, would u get it over the evo?
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Have you seen these?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAOtC9QfXac
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How about if the iphone was on sprint, would u get it over the evo?
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hell to the no
Also, as far as my answer to the question, i would def. Go with the evo 4g. My friend has an iphone, so i did play with it for somtime....there is nothing special about that phone at all. I mean yes, it can be compared to the evo on some level, but it just doest do it for me. I guess if i was with att, i would get it cuz its prolly the best phone in their selection..but even if it was avl on sprint i would choose the evo over it anyday. My statements cant really be classified as biased cuz ive used both of the phones extensively.
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Yeah, love my Evo. Not sure what I'd be using now if, god forbid, it didn't exist. Just not an AT&T fan, but even if it dropped on Sprint I'd still go with another device.
I returned my iphone 4 on thursday and hopped into a new Evo later on that day. The reason I returned the iphone 4 was for a couple of reasons. First the reception issues was pissing me the hell off. What's the point in designing such a beautiful phone if you have to hid it in a case to get proper reception. Second I was having major battery issues with it. Reviewers were singing the praises of how much better the new one was comapared to the 3gs, well I was upgrading from a regular 3g and to me there was no difference in battery life. I'm pretty sure that was attributed to me getting one with a bad battery in it. Third reason my GF was continuously complaining of static issues when we talked on the phone that wasn't there when I had my old 3g. Last but not least I was just sick and tired of looking at the same thing. Apple really hasn't done much to spruce the look of their OS up at all. It looks relatively unchanged since the first iphone. I do admit it's easy to use compared to android, but android has is much more customizable compared to ios4. In the end the service is what kills the Iphone, ATT sucks major balls. I haven't gotten one dropped call yet with sprint and the data is much faster. When running speedtest app on iphone I would get average ping time of 1000 while on sprint it's usually at about 100. This alone proves that sprints networks are much more efficient and I can see that in real world scenarios such as web surfing and using google maps. On the iphone 4 there would be considerable lag when searching google maps, whereas on the Evo it's almost instantaneous search results. The only thing I miss about the Iphone is the app quality. IOS apps seems more polished and their games are awesome. I'm sure android will catch up eventually, but damn do I miss playing angry birds!! Sorry for the rant enjoy your day people!
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How about if the iphone was on sprint, would u get it over the evo?
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I am going to be fair about this answer. I have previously owned the 3G and 3G. Being unbiased, the iPhone does have its good and bad qualities.
- Take for instance the on-screen keyboard. Hands down one of the best keyboards I have used.
- The email and messaging system with its copy-and-paste and magnification capabilities is something that I miss and wish I could somehow implement onto my EVO.
- The build of the iPhone (not the 4th generation, I am talking about the previous models) is top-notch. If the EVO had the aluminum body, like the HTC Legend does...it would be awesome. Sorry, but when one of your flagship devices is made out of plastic, you are going to have problems. Maybe if they hadn't rushed the production and didn't skimp out on using a material other then plastic...forums wouldn't be filled with people complaining about cracked power buttons and elevating screens due to lack of glue!
If the iPhone were to come to Sprint...I would not buy one.
I've always felt the closed nature of the iPhone was a problem... when it first came out I loved the iPhone but since then android and the hardware has come to surpass the ease of use and features. the only thing that needs to be worked on is the quality of apps. Apple maintains a higher quality standard of apps it appears but I would rather have the openness anyway...
So in hardware and software I feel the EVO is a better choice.. there is already a lot Android does that Apple is starting to get and android will soon be adding to its features, speed, and so on.
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EVO. Simply because of the OS. Both are great phones tech-wise, but Android offers sooooo much more. However, I don't think there will ever be an "iPhone killer". In this class of phones, they were FIRST to hit it big. The iPhone has an insane cult following. I do think that Androids following is growing faster than the iPhones. We all know about the iPhone and what it can do. So many people are still discovering Android and its limits are still unknown. That being said, I will NEVER own an iPhone.
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Would I own an iphone over an evo if the iphone was on sprint? Hell no! The closed nature of apple just bothers me. I like freedom to root, install roms and just to have choice!
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From a layperson's perspective, they could give two ****s about the closed nature of the Apple ecosystem. The economy of scale Apple relies on is largely dependent on people expecting things to 'just work'
That being said, I have worked with both environments and I feel that the fundamental choice is this:
If you want something that gives you options on how you use your product, the Android OS is the clear winner. You can modify screens and layouts, find programs that replace whatever tools Google (or HTC) shove down your throat, and the ability to add widgets sets it apart.
If you want something that conforms apps and the entire experience into one specific type of regimen, the iOS is your choice. This sounds bad the way I said it, but if you go from one program to another and aren't forced to learn how to use it because they are all built similarly, this cuts down dramatically on user error...especially when your target is a non-technical user.
The best compliment I can pay to Apple is that its taken this long for a phone to really and truly compare to the iPhone. Before Jobs' vertical market strong armed its way into the phone sector, we relied mostly on WAP, crappy JIT java VMs, and pathetic screens to be our gateway to the wireless world. Now, we are beginning to see real choice, and that is certainly a very good thing.
I'm also a recent iPhone-Evo switcher. Have been using smartphones since the Kyocera 6035 and was a first-day purchaser of all four iPhones. Returned the IP4 partially due to the reception issue, but also because of serious concerns with Apple's decision to go with an all-glass, non-gorilla back. Much too fragile for something you're going to carry around everywhere. I was also very tired of dealing with AT&T and all of their baggage. Sprint's prices and the Evo's truly unlimited data plan made the decision to switch to this device an easy one.
The thing that's great about the IOS platform is that everything just works, all the time. In 3+ years of using iPhones, I had a minimal number of freezes and even less app crashes. The UI is the most intuitive interface I've ever used -- mobile or desktop. As a new Android user, I had fears that the OS would be a step-backward toward the days of Windows Mobile clunkiness. After a week or so of using the EVO, I still have issues with the Android UI but, for the most part, have been very pleased with the decision to switch.
Now, had the IP4 not had build issues and if it was available on other carriers, would I still be using an Evo? That's a very, very tough call. I've invested a ton of money in IOS apps (thankfully, I still have an iPad, so it's not a total waste). The IP4 screen is just gorgeous. After having used both the IP4 and the Evo, I have no reservations in declaring that the camera on the IP4 just blows the Evo away in almost all light situations. When people say that the image quality of the IP4 is as good as a $300 point & shoot, they aren't kidding. And the video on the IP4 is as good or not better than the current generation Flip. Finally, the form factor of the IP4 is perfect, but I realize that is a very subjective opinion.
Things I'm loving about the Evo? The big screen, first and foremost. It's not as bright or clear as the IP4, and the color reproduction isn't as good, but having all of that extra real-estate is really a nice change. WiFi hotspot is a godsend (I'm paying Sprint the $30 as opposed to going with a custom rom for this because I tether all the time and blow through a ton of data a month and would feel guilty not doing so). Love having a better notification system (although I still thing WebOS does this the best right now) and availability of widgets. And finally, the ability to once again use a profile manager. Oh, how I've missed that since switching to the iPhone! It's absolutely maddening that Jobs & Co. won't give developers access to the APIs necessary to make a simple profile manager.
The thing that surprised me most about the switch? Everyone talks about the "openness" of Android, how easy it is to customize, how simple it is to root, etc. Now it's admittedly early in my Android education, but I find that rooting is much, much more complicated and time-consuming than jail-breaking, which is usually a one step, 10 second process. Look at the "SimpleRoot" threads on here -- they're 100+ freakin' pages. Doesn't seem to simple to me! This isn't a knock on Android, just something that I've found interesting about the switch.
Finally, I've got to say something about apps. Everyone compares the app stores on IOS and Android and how there are more total apps available on the Apple platform. So far, I haven't really had trouble finding apps to replace those I had been using regularly on the iPhone. And I was pleased to discover that many of my favorite IOS apps (e.g. 1Password, WunderRadio, etc.) are now available on Android. That being said, the polish, quality and feature-set of Android apps lag behind those for IOS 4 to a great extent. This is particularly true when you compare apps that are available for both platforms -- in just about every instance, features are missing from the Android version. However, I chalk this up to the fact that Android is still a much newer OS and some of these mutli-platform apps have only been available for Android for, in some cases, a week or so. I have no doubt that within the next 6 to 12 months, this gap will decrease significantly.
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The thing that surprised me most about the switch? Everyone talks about the "openness" of Android, how easy it is to customize, how simple it is to root, etc. Now it's admittedly early in my Android education, but I find that rooting is much, much more complicated and time-consuming than jail-breaking, which is usually a one step, 10 second process. Look at the "SimpleRoot" threads on here -- they're 100+ freakin' pages. Doesn't seem to simple to me! This isn't a knock on Android, just something that I've found interesting about the switch.
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Nice part about customization is you don't need to root unless you want to:
Replace HTC Sense with Launcher Pro or ADW? Check.
Customize Widgets? Check.
Layout Screens with Icon Organization? Check.
Replace Music Program with Your Own Choice? Check.
Rooting is definitely for us geeks, but you can do a lot more with a shrink wrapped Android out the gate.
Other than that, I agree with your sentiments
Apple wins for all the apps. I previously owned a 3G and loved it besides the fact that I would drop calls every day. I'm pretty sure the new one is going to have drop call issues with the whole antenna issue.
If more developers can develop apps for Android or port over some good iPhone apps then it would be fair to make a comparison. iPhone OS is about 4 years old and Android is about 2 years old. Google is the Wal-Mart of the internet so I'm pretty sure when they buy out companies they'll incorporate cool features in the OS.
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The thing that surprised me most about the switch? Everyone talks about the "openness" of Android, how easy it is to customize, how simple it is to root, etc. Now it's admittedly early in my Android education, but I find that rooting is much, much more complicated and time-consuming than jail-breaking, which is usually a one step, 10 second process. Look at the "SimpleRoot" threads on here -- they're 100+ freakin' pages. Doesn't seem to simple to me! This isn't a knock on Android, just something that I've found interesting about the switch.
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The thing about rooting: No it's not as quick and easy as jailbreaking the iPhone (for whatever reason, I don't know) but the SimpleRoot method really IS very simple. Trust me, I've done it myself. The reason people are having all the issues is because most of them don't follow the directions properly. I made the same mistake. Once I figured out what I did wrong, I restarted the process and it took me literally 10 minutes from beginning to end.
But even without rooting, Android can still do just about anything a jailbroken iPhone can do out of the box. Rooting gives you even more options.
The iPhone of course has its positives but personally, for my own tastes, Android just gives me much more for my money and I actually feel like the device is MINE, not Apple's or Google's or HTC's. I was playing with a friend's iPad last night and all I could think of the whole time was "This is nice. Everything is so smooth and beautiful looking... but I can't really do anything with it except look at things. All in all, it left me wanting an Android tablet more. It just offers so much more customization and a more interactive experience. And despite owning the first gen iPhone, I found myself so used to Android controls that I had a hard time accepting that there was no menu or back button so when I was looking for extra options (in Google Maps for instance) I had NO idea what to do or where to go. Android has a bit of a learning curve but once you know what you are doing, you always know how to access a feature.
Android is still young though and that polish and finesse that comes with iOS will get there eventually. In fact, Gingerbread is supposed to bring a more flashy and beautiful UI, especially with Google's acquisition of the lead man for WebOS.
Just thought I'd share this story with you guys to give you all a quick laugh :
When I walked into my local Apple Store (I was checking out their headphone selection (BOSE FTW)), a typical technologically ignorant boob of a woman stopped me and asked me if my Fascinate was some sort of new iPhone model, based on its similar looks. I simply responded: "Nope, it's better".
She was looking into an iPhone, and she continued to ask a pantheon of facepalming questions: "What's an Android?", "Does that have apps?", "Can I go on the internet?", etc. I proceeded to demonstrate how the Fascinate was better in just about every category. Well the look on her face after that point pretty much resembled that of a cross-eyed sloth, but she said that she was going to return home and "research" the pros and cons of the two phones.
I'd like to think that I did a good deed that day by prolonging (or preventing) an iPhone purchase and glorifying the Fascinate .
You're all welcome to share any of your own iTard encounter stories here as well!
EDIT: It seems I've been getting a lot of hate for thinking Bose is "ftw". Can someone make a suggestion of what else out there is better? (Not trying to be incompetent, just honestly curious)
Anytime you can turn someone away from the iPhone is a DEFINATE WIN.
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Haha that made me laugh. Since we are sharing stories I'll share one of my own. I work in retail and a lady once walked up to the mobile phone booth, looked at a Captivate and said she wanted to purchase one. She kept reiterating saying how she was so glad to finally have it. After everything was wrapped up with the sell she left and went to a nearby AT&T store and told them she got an iPhone and needed to purchase a case for it (cause she didn't like ours). They told her that wasn't an iPhone and she stormed back to our mobile booth and very ignorantly said she didn't want that phone and wanted to replace it with the iPhone even though she used the Captivate and liked it. It's this ignorance of people that have no idea how smartphones work that makes me angry. Apple is good at collecting sheep and for a while that was almost me until I laid eyes on the Captivate that was love at first sight. Ended up getting a Fascinate.
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iPhone worshipers were brain washed.
They think Samsung copied iPhone design.
See this picture. Who copied whose at the first place?
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Guys, we shouldn't get stuck in simple ideological gridlock. I believe the answer to most things is in the middle, rather than at the extremes. Now then, I love the open modifiable nature of Android. But to claim the Fascinate easily overpowers the iPhone is quite a narrow one sided view. Such a view is really propaganda.
Both my brother and coworker have the iPhone 4. Both are EE's who researched it and not simpletons. The battery life of the iPhone 4 blows the fascinate out of the water. While I get a max of 3 hours of display on time, they easily enjoy 8 hours. This is no small difference, I'm constantly short of battery at the end of the day with my fascinate.
I run launcher pro and get pretty smooth UI animations, however it does jitter and jerk here and there. When scrolling any list the processor is pegged at 100% usage. (Part of battery issue) Now then the iPhone 4 is silky smooth in every way, never pausing or jerking UI animations. It's excellent software design.
Every major game developer praises the iOS development environment. (C/C++) All significant 3D games launch on apple first... then maybe some come to Android later. Who wants a performance game running on a freeking Java virtual machine? OK, so Android can have native code too and ver 2.3 removes some JVM handicaps, but there are 0 games taking advantage of 2.3. Plus the fascinate is still on 2.1. Apple has tons of games that run awesome right now.
I like my Fascinate, but iPhone 4 can hold ground against it *very* easy.
Having had an older and much laggier iphone (3g no s), I can say that the iOS experience then, still is better than the time I have with my phone since i got a nexus one. I liked it better at first because it wasn't laggy, I was just happy with it being snappy. And then I went on the Android market.... SMGDH.... Does it have apps? Yeah... but they suck ass, hard... My gf hasn't downloaded ONE app on her fascinate since I got it for her, and what girl doesn't download apps on an iPhone?! Exactly, ... if there were anything worth downloading she probably would have by now... For me, it's kind of good that android doesn't pull my interest away from the computer and other aspects of my technological life, it is just my phone... I like android because it got me OFF the phone from being on it as much as I was on it when I had an iphone. Flashing roms is fun n all, but SSH'ing into my jailbroken iphone and theming it was wayyy easier, music player was better, and of course the games... i had asphalt 5 then (they have like fkin asphalt 7 now), in 2008/9 and it worked better than on this phone or my friends epic? #fail... I had quake 3 on the iphone and that did not work as well as my fascinate, but either the 3gs or the iphone4 will smash this phone at the 1st person shooters available, and that's what im into. So hopefully they make it with a bigger screen this year, and a little secret... Black people don't argue about which smartphone is the best, the ones that use them, know the iPhone is the best, we just can't afford AT&T's hella crazy plan, but we love to use Evos and Epics on Boost mobile and Fascinates on Cricket =/. I pay less than my homeboy who just got the i4 from the 3gs, (130 - 1 line / 115 - 2 lines) #Winning.
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Having had an older and much laggier iphone (3g no s), I can say that the iOS experience then, still is better than the time I have with my phone since i got a nexus one. I liked it better at first because it wasn't laggy, I was just happy with it being snappy. And then I went on the Android market.... SMGDH.... Does it have apps? Yeah... but they suck ass, hard... My gf hasn't downloaded ONE app on her fascinate since I got it for her, and what girl doesn't download apps on an iPhone?! Exactly, ... if there were anything worth downloading she probably would have by now... For me, it's kind of good that android doesn't pull my interest away from the computer and other aspects of my technological life, it is just my phone... I like android because it got me OFF the phone from being on it as much as I was on it when I had an iphone. Flashing roms is fun n all, but SSH'ing into my jailbroken iphone and theming it was wayyy easier, music player was better, and of course the games... i had asphalt 5 then (they have like fkin asphalt 7 now), in 2008/9 and it worked better than on this phone or my friends epic? #fail... I had quake 3 on the iphone and that did not work as well as my fascinate, but either the 3gs or the iphone4 will smash this phone at the 1st person shooters available, and that's what im into. So hopefully they make it with a bigger screen this year, and a little secret... Black people don't argue about which smartphone is the best, the ones that use them, know the iPhone is the best, we just can't afford AT&T's hella crazy plan, but we love to use Evos and Epics on Boost mobile and Fascinates on Cricket =/. I pay less than my homeboy who just got the i4 from the 3gs, (130 - 1 line / 115 - 2 lines) #Winning.
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Cool story bro. Go buy an iPhone. Baaaaaaaaaa.
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While convincing someone to look into android over ios puts a little money in a better place and technically gives them a better devise, I think its a bad idea. For starters an average person with no knowledge or any desire at all to learn any platform is going to have a hard time with both. either device in the hands of such a person will leave them cursing it.
Right now most people are utterly convinced they want and need a smart phone. For those that can't work the microwave (not an insult at all), neither device is right for them no matter how better android is. I have just recently convinced four people into their smart phone decisions, two of them I recommended iphone, and two android. While I have no doubt the two iphoners arnt going to be happy (as they seem to have a hard enough time with making calls on their feature phone). I prefer them being disappointed in apple.
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I prefer to and need to use my phone as more than just a simple toy or entertainment device such as the iPhone. What makes Android a significantly more productive operating system? Three things:
1. Widgets: no need to open miscellaneous app to see when I have an appointment, my calendar is a screen away.
2. The notification bar: its just plain useful: emails, texts, alerts, all at the swipe of finger.
3. Download ANYTHING: I can download virtually any file on the internet and view/edit it as I require - unlike the simplistic PDF viewer and limited email downloading capabilities support of iOS.
Would I buy a 15 year old an Android? No, they most likely can't take advantage of its best features. Would I buy it for someone who needs information without the time consuming glitz and glamor of iOS? Absolutely.
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That is funny. And I dislike the iPhony for a number of reasons. But, I believe there are a lot of sheeple out there that need the iPhony, and she sounds like one of them. Clueless about what the different options are that are available to her. No idea what she wants to even do with a smartphone. She needs someone to hold her hand and give her a nice quiet place to be in. The iPhony may offer that better then an Android.
Someone tries to take me by the hand and show me what to do, it is going to involve kicking, and fists swinging, so I want a more open system.
The main problem here is the fact that iOS and Android are, at this point at least, are about even for the consumers with "average" knowledge of computers that have more than likely grown up using them. Anyone above average that likes to tinker with their devices should quite obviously get an android phone, anyone that is below average that just wants a few apps and to make phone calls and doesn't really want much more than a feature phone with apps should likely get the iPhone. Lets face it android is more like a computer than the iPhone is and therefore, is more confusing for people at first and if the person that gets the android phone doesn't even really know how to properly work a computer will more than likely get confused with the android phone more than they would with the iphone
Ahhh, the simple minded views abound. It is possible to admit the assets of other devices without feeling dissapointed in yours. Most people realize this as they mature. People who should get an iPhone:
1) Anyone, techy or not, that is busy and has no time for tweaks and mods, but yet wants all basic smartphone functions to work immediately and perfectly.
2) Anyone wanting all the best 3D games
3) Anyone without constant access to charger. Battery life of most android phones is pretty bad. I don't want a 3000 mah battery mod for my phone, I want it to work out of the box with iPhone 4's 8 hour screen time.
Now then, its no surprise at all that apple sells a ton of these devices. Please stop being surprised or mad that apple is doing so well. Please acknowledge the areas that they accel, and instantiate yourselves as mature humans.
I kept a close eye on the android os when it was first released and I have always loved smart phones. My first was an imported Sony Ericson p800 (the full touch screen in early 2000's would blow people's mind haha). I absolutely loved my experience with the og droid and fell in love with android. However, with my experience with the fascinate, and the overall direction of most carriers to locking down these handsets more and more, I am starting to reconsider staying with android. Lets face it. These software manufacturers, barring HTC, and phone carriers, are all terrible at software and lack any kind of vision regarding user enjoyment. They are all about maximizing profits and "differentiation" Motorola almost went out of business because they suck at software. They have forgotten this and now insist on making their own adjustments to android that just make things harder to use. With the increasing difficulty of getting android back to stock, it is becoming less and less attractive. I believe phones like the droid is the pinnacle of the android experience, an experience that is becoming more and more rare. It seems the nexus phones won't see the light of day on verizon, who has the best network as well. If the iPhone does indeed have the rumored 4 inch screen, I would have to look at it seriously.
So you are a phone elitist talking down on a person that doesnt know about android,
yet you go to the apple store to buy ****ty bose audio products? What a horrible life you must live to have your day brightened by this type of event.
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So you are a phone elitist talking down on a person that doesnt know about android,
yet you go to the apple store to buy ****ty bose audio products? What a horrible life you must live to have your day brightened by this type of event.
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Hey, I wasn't talking down to her. I'm a salesman, and I was simply demonstrating the features of the Fascinate.
And Bose in my opinion is pretty damn good compared to the equivalent in skullcandy or Sony.
Also, I never stated that it brightened my day. I stated that it was a funny experience that I'd like to share with you all.
Hope that changes your tone =/
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The Fascinate and Android to me are better because of the iPhone, prior to 2006 all phones pretty much sucked. iPhone changed the game.
I feel that Apple Computers are better than Windows. I received an iPad 2 as a gift and I do not like the iOS 4. I prefer Android....
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sheep...
anyone that i hear around me that desire an iphone i have to ask them why they want it. what will they use it for. Then i show them my fascinate running cyanogen 6.2 and they are blown away. i tell them you cant do this on apple products. period. there is no customization. its either apples way or the highway. For people that like to customize and make the phone theirs in every way i recommend android, but for the douchebags that want an iphone because its an iphone...i say let them be sheep...apples digging its own grave by trying to sue samsung for something apple stole from them in the first place. yay apple...
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The Fascinate and Android to me are better because of the iPhone, prior to 2006 all phones pretty much sucked. iPhone changed the game.
I feel that Apple Computers are better than Windows. I received an iPad 2 as a gift and I do not like the iOS 4. I prefer Android....
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Facepalm...
Honestly not sure if its the phone or the OS Im tired of. Have been using my G2 for over a year, been using Android for the same amount of time (G2 was my first Android device). Lately I haven't been interested in trying any ROMs, none have really peaked my interest to be honest due to the little issues in them. Not sure what I should do from here......
End of small rant.
Anyone else feel the same way or am I alone?
I still love the phone but I am definitely getting a little bored with it. Same as with most things. After so long of use, it feels like it is time for something new.
I use MIUI and it seems the fastest and smoothest to me (probably as good as you can get on the hardware), so getting bored I try other ROMs but they aren't as smooth so I go back to MIUI. I think ICS might spice things up for a little while l, but I think an upgrade might help.
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It's called "consumerism". Just use your DZ till it dies of a natural death >.>
i wasn't bored of it, i was simply tired of the lag, missed messages and genrally just the lack of RAM.
i took the plunge and moved to the desire HD (couldnt afford anything newer)
and i notice the difference in ram immediately, there are LOADS more apps open at once now, and everything just generally feels snappier. and even with all my apps open i have 100mb+ ram left, constantly,
it's a shame that the DZ didnt have more ram, because otherwise i think i could've stuck with it for so much longer.
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.... Lately I haven't been interested in trying any ROMs, none have really peaked my interest to be honest...
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Damnit I thanked instead of quoting at first. Oh well.
It's "piqued," FYI.
I still use mine all the time. I have ICS on it. And with supercharger it's plenty fast. And I can text sweet things to my gf much easier and quicker using the keyboard. That being said get a hercules and rock both.
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What's with all of these posts really...If you're "tired" of the phone go buy another one and use this as a backup. A lot of people do it lately.
Sure - I would be happy to buy a new phone, just as soon as you can invent a phone that has the G2's reliability, developer support, style, at least as good of a real keyboard, display quality, and make sure it works with T-mobile so I can have unlimited everything, including wifi hotspot, free tethering and free wifi calling, and no overage charges possible for only $60/month no-contract!
Yeah, that's what I thought, the G2 has no upgrade that can be made, because it is the best phone/carrier combo out there!
But I do wish there was a magical way to have the reception in rural area and LTE deep building penetration that I envy on Verizon (but I don't envy paying nearly $200/month for the features listed above!)
Still love my phone since the day I got it. Reliable and tough, stylish and sleek. I do look forward to an upgrade, but it's not something that i'm set my heart to. Can't really beat the DZ =)
Can someone just lock this post? It's so silly to post stuff like this.
If you're tired of it, then get a new phone.
g2 has been an awesome phone especially for my first Android phone but I can't wait for the next g series or maybe I'll try out the gnex. Contracts not up till October so hopefully there'll be something cool out then
After a year of using something u naturally get bored of it but if ur that boored of it try getting a mytouch4gslide
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Not bored,
I recently tried a few things to give my G2 a different look and feel. Here's what I have:
meXdroidMod Atomic ROM -- been using meXdroidMod for awhile now
GO Launcher EX ICS theme -- cool screen transitions, my favorite is sphere
GO Locker -- ICS style, and I don't have date and time showing
GO SMS Pro -- I have had this for awhile
GO Weather -- besides HD video background, I like the Temperature Trend among some of the other features
With a couple of apps and also creating shortcuts to access them easily and quickly, i find my G2 very useful and not boring. Now if only I had a bigger screen...
I never understood this emotion where people get bored of things and feel the need to get the newest stuff. To me, the G2 is a solid device and the only time I would ever think of changing is out of necessity: not so much boredom. If I needed a faster GPU or a larger screen or better speakers and so forth: I can definitely understand the decision then because you have a practical purpose for the future device. But to be bored of a device and wanting to upgrade for no other reason because of it is exactly what companies want you to do. convolution put it best, "consumerism", but I would also add the word "affluence" as well.
WTF? said:
Sure - I would be happy to buy a new phone, just as soon as you can invent a phone that has the G2's reliability, developer support, style, at least as good of a real keyboard, display quality, and make sure it works with T-mobile so I can have unlimited everything, including wifi hotspot, free tethering and free wifi calling, and no overage charges possible for only $60/month no-contract!
Yeah, that's what I thought, the G2 has no upgrade that can be made, because it is the best phone/carrier combo out there!
But I do wish there was a magical way to have the reception in rural area and LTE deep building penetration that I envy on Verizon (but I don't envy paying nearly $200/month for the features listed above!)
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Lol you must be delusional. This is a great phone, but as soon as I find a nexus s I'm going back. Not only is the phone faster in both the CPU and gpu department, the wolfson sound chip is a god send for music lovers (the g2 can't power my 120$ Sony earbuds and as a result aren't as loud/bass cuts out at low frequencies) , you can't beat the samoled screen (after a little tweaking with voodoo colors it gives a better pq than my 40" ex400) and to top it off ics is smooth as a gyroscope. I can't tell a difference scrolling around home screens and menus compared to my buddies gnex. Dev support is off the charts. IMO the nexus s is the device to have over a gnex or gs2.
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Lol you must be delusional. This is a great phone, but as soon as I find a nexus s I'm going back. Not only is the phone faster in both the CPU and gpu department, the wolfson sound chip is a god send for music lovers (the g2 can't power my 120$ Sony earbuds and as a result aren't as loud/bass cuts out at low frequencies) , you can't beat the samoled screen (after a little tweaking with voodoo colors it gives a better pq than my 40" ex400) and to top it off ics is smooth as a gyroscope. I can't tell a difference scrolling around home screens and menus compared to my buddies gnex. Dev support is off the charts. IMO the nexus s is the device to have over a gnex or gs2.
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Ill tell you what though. This battery life is AMAZING. Running ilwt cm7 @1.3 ghz ondemand with backround data on.
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WTF? said:
Sure - I would be happy to buy a new phone, just as soon as you can invent a phone that has the G2's reliability, developer support, style, at least as good of a real keyboard, display quality, and make sure it works with T-mobile so I can have unlimited everything, including wifi hotspot, free tethering and free wifi calling, and no overage charges possible for only $60/month no-contract!
Yeah, that's what I thought, the G2 has no upgrade that can be made, because it is the best phone/carrier combo out there!
But I do wish there was a magical way to have the reception in rural area and LTE deep building penetration that I envy on Verizon (but I don't envy paying nearly $200/month for the features listed above!)
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truth, it must be quoted. I've yet to see a newer phone with all the qualities I want in a phone. I'm extremely lucky that I got this phone with my family's contract, I had no idea of the developer support behind it when I did choose it.
G2 is my first android device too. And also one year I have been using it. I love my G2 just because it my "first time". I've tried almost every Rom from xda. And now using sense 3.5. But, frankly speaking, I'm considering t buy a new better one.
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RushAOZ said:
Lol you must be delusional. This is a great phone, but as soon as I find a nexus s I'm going back. Not only is the phone faster in both the CPU and gpu department, the wolfson sound chip is a god send for music lovers (the g2 can't power my 120$ Sony earbuds and as a result aren't as loud/bass cuts out at low frequencies) , you can't beat the samoled screen (after a little tweaking with voodoo colors it gives a better pq than my 40" ex400) and to top it off ics is smooth as a gyroscope. I can't tell a difference scrolling around home screens and menus compared to my buddies gnex. Dev support is off the charts. IMO the nexus s is the device to have over a gnex or gs2.
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Wow, that audio chip intrigues me. I primarily use my phone as a music player at the gym and I like my music loud. However I get distortion when I try to adjust the frequencies past a certain point. Is this Wolfson chip a solution?
So, a bit of a backstory: I am still on an AT&T GS4. It is obviously years old, but still chugs along. More hangups now than earlier, but restarting fixes it. My phone is rooted, but no custom ROMs or anything, because locked boot loaders are great like that.
I use Tasker for enough things, AdAway, ClockSync (because I am anal and like "perfect" time), ES File Explorer, Light Flow, TB, and I do have some Xposed modules. Some of my Tasker profiles use Secure Settings. I really did like custom ROMs on my international GS2, and was pretty bummed that this did not have them. I also simply like having full control over my phone. It's my hardware, I want to use it how I please.
I have not purchased a Nexus 6p because it is mostly just too large for me. The S7E might be the biggest I would be comfortable with. At this point, I am looking for opinions on whether I should wait for a possibly new Nexus phone, or pick up this one. I would likely grab the 935F, and not the AT&T variant. Another thing that scares me is warranty, or lack thereof, since I would be buying it from an ebay seller. I've never had a phone with a manufacturer defect or something worth warrantying, but it would suck to have a dead phone and be out ~$700.
Any thoughts/opinions/similar conundrums?
If your really into flashing Roms then yea wait becuase the g4 is still a great phone, but if your like me, I wanted to get away from flashing Roms because it consumes too much of my life the s7e is an awesome phone, I took the plunge with no regrets but if u do buy international spend 80$ more and buy from Amazon or b&h they provide you with 1 yr warranty directly from them so if u do have issues u won't have to try to deal with Samsung
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If your really into flashing Roms then yea wait becuase the g4 is still a great phone, but if your like me, I wanted to get away from flashing Roms because it consumes too much of my life the s7e is an awesome phone, I took the plunge with no regrets but if u do buy international spend 80$ more and buy from Amazon or b&h they provide you with 1 yr warranty directly from them so if u do have issues u won't have to try to deal with Samsung
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It's a GS4, as in Galaxy S4. Or was "g4" just a typo? Either way, it still does fine. Did you happen to buy a carrier branded one or the international?
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It's a GS4, as in Galaxy S4. Or was "g4" just a typo? Either way, it still does fine. Did you happen to buy a carrier branded one or the international?
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Lol my mistake the g7e is such a vast improvement over the gs4 I personally would definitely take the plunge. I did go with the art varient as I like how cool the sd820 runs it barely even gets warm as well as I wanted volte, wifi calling, and Samsung pay, as the international ones doesn't , but im sure the exynos has a bit better battery life but my sd820 averages 7 sot so I'm not craving more battery
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Lol my mistake the g7e is such a vast improvement over the gs4 I personally would definitely take the plunge. I did go with the art varient as I like how cool the sd820 runs it barely even gets warm as well as I wanted volte, wifi calling, and Samsung pay, as the international ones doesn't , but im sure the exynos has a bit better battery life but my sd820 averages 7 sot so I'm not craving more battery
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Haha, yeah. I figured that is what you meant. I assume you don't care about root much then?
Yea surprisingly I don't care about root anymore, every Android I've owned was rooted but I'm just sick of cat and mouse with rooting flashing Roms I just want to enjoy the phone and i feel Android is finally to a point where I don't need root anymore
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Yea surprisingly I don't care about root anymore, every Android I've owned was rooted but I'm just sick of cat and mouse with rooting flashing Roms I just want to enjoy the phone and i feel Android is finally to a point where I don't need root anymore
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Hmm, interesting. Thanks for your input!
No prob best of luck on your decision
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Yea surprisingly I don't care about root anymore, every Android I've owned was rooted but I'm just sick of cat and mouse with rooting flashing Roms I just want to enjoy the phone and i feel Android is finally to a point where I don't need root anymore
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This is pretty much where I'm at. I mean, I would probably root if it were an option for adblock without a VPN, but it's not a deal breaker. OEM's have pretty much taken every cool feature that you could only get through a ROM and baked it in their own, so I have no interest in flashing ROM's anymore.
Wait for an unannounced potentially non existent phone (which is rumored to be by HTC), or get a solid option that you can touch, feel, see.
I think it's personal opinion, as far as warranty, you can get square trade warranty I believe it's called. And if it was never registered you could register it via samsung.
Lastly, depends what you want. I want best screen possible and amazing camera. That's s7 edge for me.
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With a theme and a launcher, I'm running like I'm stock. Best of both worlds.
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I am on the same boat. I am currently watching 2 auctions for the nexus 6p. Don't know if I should pull the trigger or not. My current phone is a iPhone 6 but I wanna get back into the android world as my first smartphone was a nexus. The edge looks awesome but my upgrade ain't ready till October.
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I say get the GS7E. I've been running Nexus phones side-by-side with my Galaxy phones since 2013 and the Galaxies are better for everything except timely software updates.
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I picked up the s7 edge about a week ago, the international 935f. I like the size and weight of the phone. I'm not sure if it's the exynos processor, but it's not as smooth as my Nexus 6p. The camera and battery life are better than the Nexus, not by much. I love my Nexus though and will keep it.
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Yeah, I am not sure what to do. I am sure the S7E is a badass phone, but I really want to be able to root it and screw around, if only just because I want the ability to do so.
I went from HTC One m8 (Sense rom, and also used GPE Rom for a while) + user of a Nexus 9, over to the S7 Edge.
Honestly, you can like Stock android as much as you want.. But stuff like Touchwiz (or other versions like sense, LG ui etc) have the one or other really awesome feature, that just simply don't exist on Android.
One of my Favourite features on TouchWiz right now:
Screenshot.
Honestly. After i do a Screenshot of a Screen, that is Scrollable (like Internet browser, Facebook posts, Whatsapp chatlog, etc), theres a "+" beside "share" and "delete". If i press the "+", the screenshot-function automatically scrolls down, and does another screenshot. If press + again, it does it a third time.
And it stitches them Together into a sort of "Panorama" screenshot.
In Whatsapp, you have your status bar at the Top, then 2345634 Kilometers Chatlog, and THEN just at the bottom your Text field. The Chat itself is stitched together jsut perfectly.
And if i say perfectly, i literaly mean Pixel-accuracy stitched Together.
my Whatsapp screens only look strange, because of my Background Wallpaper in Whatsapp, that will be "cut". If it were a one-color background, it would be absolutely Perfect.
Cant praise this feature enough, as someone who takes Screenshots here and there.
Stuff like this show me, that it was a right decision to NOT take a nexus. (because, i HAVE experience with Vanilla Android, and i miss NOTHING on Touchwiz. Literaly, Nothing. Not even performance. )
Darkseth said:
Stuff like this show me, that it was a right decision to NOT take a nexus. (because, i HAVE experience with Vanilla Android, and i miss NOTHING on Touchwiz. Literaly, Nothing. Not even performance. )
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Hmm, interesting. I don't know that it is super important to me to be able to take extremely long screenshots. I only ever take screenshots of the thing I am looking at directly.
True, but sometimes, it's quite handy Like for some conversations, that are 1,5 - 2 screens deep
But that's just one of many...
There is an option, to reset all Settings back, without having to do "Factory Reset" (which will delete all your data). That was handy for me once, while stock android doesnt have that.
The Camera App from Touchwiz is pretty good, and the Pro mode is nice (you can save pictures as RAW while in PRO Mode, or turn the shutter speed up to whole 10 Seconds which is useable because of the very good OIS).
Well, in the End, my Preferences won't be an Argument for YOUR preferences. If you love stock android, then waiting for the next Nexus might be worth for you.
But i think, the S7 is a damn good piece of hardware, with a really really not bad Software. You could still use Nova Launcher or something, and maybe a Material Theme, and you'll be noit that far away from a stock android experience. But still have some nice features (+ the awesome hardware)
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Well, in the End, my Preferences won't be an Argument for YOUR preferences. If you love stock android, then waiting for the next Nexus might be worth for you.
But i think, the S7 is a damn good piece of hardware, with a really really not bad Software. You could still use Nova Launcher or something, and maybe a Material Theme, and you'll be noit that far away from a stock android experience. But still have some nice features (+ the awesome hardware)
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I've never even used pure, stock Android before. Never had a Nexus. I don't have an issue with Touchwiz either, as I would already use Apex/Nova as my launcher anyway. The phone/software itself is great, I am positive. My issue is the locked down environment of it. I want to be able to tinker, and Samsung does not want that.
In a geeks opinion, if you're really into exploring and having fun with that device, I would suggest a Nexus device,it'd be first one to receive updates, Samsung series are good and eye candy, but what they lack is update, late updates and sometimes no update at all. Any ways if brand really matters I suggest go for Samsung, otherwise for full potential use Nexus
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In a geeks opinion, if you're really into exploring and having fun with that device, I would suggest a Nexus device,it'd be first one to receive updates, Samsung series are good and eye candy, but what they lack is update, late updates and sometimes no update at all. Any ways if brand really matters I suggest go for Samsung, otherwise for full potential use Nexus
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I certainly do like the idea, and would have purchased a 6p when it came out, but it is just too damned big for my hands, unfortunately. I essentially have to decide if I want to wait until November or not.