I'm tired of new question threads always asking about the same problem, so this is a list of most common problems in Android and how to solve them. I'll add more things as I read more and I also would appreciate your feedback, I'm using SD without MAGLDR and probably will keep on using Android this way so I'd also appreciate any feedback about how to solve problems regarding MAGLDR and NAND, though some of the solutions here might apply to them as well.
hopefully this will get stickied so new Android users will find it fast.
there's a small FAQ at the buttom, which will be improved and expanded in the future.
This thread is tagged with Android Troubleshooting
for easier search
feel free to ask your questions here, I'll try to answer them, and will post only the answers that work here, so I would appreciate it if you say which solution worked for you. Do not post questions, however, that are already included here before you try these solutions.
Before you start, make sure you have the newest Radio, 2.15.50 because it supposedly handles power consumption better, so if you have power problems, try to flash it. look in windows 6.5 section for how to do this. the red number is mandatory, flashing a non .50 radio will not enable you to run android.
also, make sure you format your SD using the SD card formatter 2.0 or 3.0 http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter_3/ choose full(overwrite) with size adjustment ON, or at least fully format it FAT32 using 32KB allocation unit size. Note that some cards don't work this way, but if you have Kingston, SanDisk, A-Data, Transcend or Team you should be fine. if it works with a card other than the ones mentioned please let me know.
My card fails to mount after I ..../ Card error, etc
it's mostly caused by files system errors, some are small so android will disregard them, and some are not, and thus is will ask you to remove the card. Most slow cards give this issue, if you want to know how fast your card is, benchmark it here: here a card with fast random read/write will probably not give these errors, or at least it will get them rarely (personal experience)
Solution #1
here's a fast solution: use any tool to check for file system errors, the native windows tool will do, there's also a similar option in minitool partition wizard and in plenty of other disk tools. in windows, all you have to do is right click the drive icon -> properties -> tools -> error checking and make it automatically repair the errors because it's more convenient.
Solution #2
if you still encounter the problem frequently, backup your data then format the card using the panasonic SD card formatter, or just google for SD formatter, you might stumble upon the official SD association which also offers a similar tool. in options set full(overwrite) with size adjustment ON. I recommend deleting all android cache files before you resore your files to the SD, even the image thumbnail folders.
Solution #3
if your device has these lags from time to time, don't start overwhelming it with extra commands, leave it to rest for a few seconds and then start again, I found this decreased the errors on my device.
Solution #4
try another SD card, preferably from another brand.
My device stuck on [fill in the blanks] after I started android for the first time
I'd recommend first rereading the whole developer's build page and see the FAQ on their page, check if you've missed something somewhere.
Solution #1
make sure you have at least 1.5 GB on the card after you've copied your android folder and make a fresh install again after you check your card for errors.
Solution #2
check if the build you want needs special partitioning, as far as I know, most builds run on unpartitioned SD, but make sure you read the build page thoroughly.
Solution #3
Wait for more time. Depending on the speed of your SD it may take longer to create the Data.img file or to convert needed system files, but normally shouldn't take more than 30 minutes. if it fails, reset and check the Android folder, if it has a data.img file but still smaller than 512/1024 MB (depending in the build) then you should probably wait for a longer period, or just try another build
Solution #4
some build require a config.txt file to be created before they can run, make sure you have the right confing.txt for the build and that you haven't misspelled a thing here or there. I once set the data.img size to 1MB accidentally and gladly I checked that before asking the developer ;p
I have a high battery drain on wakeup/standby
we'll start from easy solutions to more extreme ones.
Solution #1
lower the CPU speed using setCPU, this also sloves the heating up issue -> freezing. I've used my device with normal CPU speed without freezing, but wakup power consumption really decreased with lower CPU speed. however, setCPU caused my standby power consumption to increase four folds, so I removed it. Probably build-related.
Solution #2
make sure you let WinMo settle before running android, that means let sense load fully and wait for a minute or so. also Try to load android with flight mode on.
Solution #3
install a monitoring app so you could see which apps are consuming more power, some beta apps use your processor even in standby, mainly beta apps, uninstall those apps and it might solve your problem. I've found that in my case, setCPU caused a high standby consumption. Also perfect viewer1.4, Circle launcher, and some widgets also cause me high standby drainage. Killing Perfect Viewer solves it, but I had to uninstall the other apps.
Solution #4
Flash a new Radio/ a different Radio. I've used 2.10.50 without a problem on Super RAM Froyo, but 2.15.50 definitely improved things on sense builds. some users repost 2.12.50 to work fine as well. Try different radios and see what works best for you.
Solution #5
Try another build
Solution #6
Try a different SD card. Cards differ in their power needs, so search for one that consumes less power.
FAQ
Q- Which android build is the best/ I want an android build that has….etc.
A- Every and each android build is the best to someone. Developers spend long hours to make their builds better, faster and more stable, each with strengths and weaknesses. So to make it more simple, you have to look at each build page, see if it has what you need, then try it. If it doesn’t work, try another until you find something that suits your needs best. Here’s a page that lists all the builds for you:HTC HD2 Android Roms
each one is worth try, and believe me, asking which one is best will NOT save you time.
Q- which SD card class is better to install android?
A- All! the class means the device can write faster on the card, and probably read faster as well. But it all really depends on how fast can the device access info on the card, it's called Access time or something.. the lower the time the better, so two cards of different classes may have the same access time, so the only difference you'll notice is the speed of file transfer. look it up and you'll see what I mean
Q- My device lags after installaing apps
A- You probably have a senseHD build based on DesireHD. the original device has a similar lag so it's normal to have a lag on that build. Don't stress your device with clicks and just wait for 20 seconds after each app installation then tap open or done.
Q- I have a wakeup lag/lock screen of death
A- It's mostly SD dependent since users report not having a lag with higher classes, though I never had a lag with my SanDisk 2GB C2, and I have a small lag with my A-Data 8GB c4, so it's probably the card access time again. you can try setting the brightness to max, or never stress the device, if you do, it'll freeze and when the screen turns off, you'll never get it on again sometimes.
If you encounter a wakeup lag after a call, it's proximity sensor-related, there's a tool on this site to recalibrate the proximity sensor. I've never needed it though.
Q- Do I have to use task killers?
A- In Froyo, you don't. Froyo handles files differently, in a way that won't affect performance or battery consumption. if an app uses more power, then it's tha app's problem, uninstall it. If you kill it, Froyo will load it a few minutes later if it feels like being used frequently or so. but be my guest and try it for yourself.
I found some of the solutions here by myself, and read the others everywhere on the site. since it's hard for me to name all the people who found those solutions, I would like to thank them all, whoever they are. I could never have done this without the XDA community.
Hi,
I can see you have put in a lot of work into this.
The problem its that people tend not to search first. They just post the same questions(hence your post).
I hope it doesn't just sink down the postings.
Anyway,i've given you a little bump.
Flashed from my fingers to your face
Reserved For MAGLDR problems
reserved for NAND issues
Related
hi all
ive been reading this thread re installing android on my HD2,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733752
it says on page 11 might have been before that i need radio 2.10 2.12 , i then started to read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
about updating my radio but it has several different downloads for radio 2.10 and 1 for 2.12 then below there is some that start 15 so not exactly sure which one to download
i would like to try the latest android version the froyo 2.2, not bothered about it autobooting, i dont mind having to press a button once the phone is running but would like to keep wm as my main os.
here are my phone specs, ive not altered the software in anyway since i bought it.
UK T-Mobile
os version 5.2.2189
manila version 2.5.20121429.0
Rom 1.72.110.4 (86525) WWE
radio version 2.07.51.22.2
flash size 512mb
8 GB sd card
could someone pleasse list exactly what i need links to files would be grate, someething like
step 1update radio to (link to radio download)
step 2 download latest android ( link )
step 3 install android loader
i can follow instructions in the links i gave but just a little unsure which radio and andriod version to get. and as ive seen altering files can ruin my phone i want to be as sure as i can before i start this
in any stage of adding android to my phone will it wipe my memory card ??
can the android part be completely uninstalled ???
i have the usb cable and windows mobile device center so i guess ill wait for a reply.
thanks for reading and hope someone can help me
cheers craig
Hi Craig,
I am willing to help but first read the link AGAIN & AGAIN, if you are still not sure then PM me on my Hotmail.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
I have 4 HD2s in my friends including myself, and I am dealing Android on all the 4 devices.
My recommended Android ROM is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859817
Regards
Sid
thanks for reply sid,
i read the post you linked to and updated the radio and Hard SPL, i then downloaded the rom you linked to and copied that to my sd card, clicked the two files and it rebooted as android, seems to work ok,
just one thing if you could let me know is that can i just delete the android folder and be back to normal or when it booted did it copy files somewhere else or is everything contained for androlid os in the android folder,
might try some different roms thats all but would want to remove others first
thanks
Wahaaayyyy, Well Done.
If you want to try another Android Rom than you have to EITHER delete or backup (for future use) few folders such as:
* .android_secure
* .bookmark_thumb1
* .estrongs
* .footprints
* .Mail
* Android
* DCIM (This is the folder where the Camera picture saves !!! IMPORTANT if you want to save the pictures taken from within Android)
* download
* LazyList
* LOST.DIR
* media (I think this folder keeps all the ringtones)
* myalbum
* rosie_scroll
* rssreader
(Dont worry if any of the mentioned is not in your card)
Then again put new rom's android folder in the card & run 2 files as you did.
Important: It is recommended to Format the card each time on FAT-32 (Not Quick Format) for a fresh start but MAKE SURE to save/backup your Windows folders prior to format, and copy them back after format, this will save you from some random rebooting or crashes of Android.
If you want to try an ULTRA FAST Android rom than try this one, as this one uses your HD2s hard chip RAM rather than the RAM through the SD-Card, But this is without HTC sence: (READ the instructions carefully) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
Good luck & let me know
Regards
Sid
thanks again for your reply sid,
i tried the other faster version you linked and it seems loads quicker but battery life doesnt seem to be as good unplugged it from charging this morning and used about 80% in about 10 hours, is this normal.when i am running windows it lasts about 2 days before needing to be charged,
also when i booted back into windows i got some errors, saying couldnt run exe files as they wernt signed or something to that effect, after googling the error it turns out afew people had this error after using android, and a hard reset was rthe only cure, i did this and both are working fine so not sure what happened there
what can you recommed to do a complete backup of my windows OS, including installed apps contacts / messages etc, basically a full backup in case it happens again,
thanks for your input already its been much appreciated, the feedback from both the roms is the 2nd 1 is definately loads quicker at loading, also the apps close fully not leaving them running whereas the 1st one seemed to leave them all running unless i was doing something wrong, i just press the back arrow to close them,
the second rom doesnt have loads of pre-installed stuff, which i like beacuse i just put the stuff i need on,
just need to use it a little more to find out where stuff is
cheers craig
Craig the battery consumption is also depends on the speed of the SD card (Class), I am using class-4 16GB Kingston, I have also tried Class-6 16GB but that was sucking the battery allot more than class-4, but class-2 makes it suck as well because it takes more time & provide less info to the rom in the required time, I hope you are catching what I am saying.
So according to my experience "Kingston Class-4 8/16GB" is the most appropriate card to run Android through the card.
Although Android through the SdCard will always consume more battery than any OS on the chip itself, that is why Windows OS is giving us 2 days. There is a way of DELETING Windows OS and install Android on the HardChip through MAGLDR, but I am sorry I can play anything with the SdCard but with the device itself NO WAY.
My aim was to try Android in my hand rather than word-of-mouth, so I can decide about my next device.
About the Windows crash & Hard Resetting, I would suggest you to install/Design all you loving softwares in WinOS and once you finish use "Sprite Backup" (Brilliant application) to take a complete backup of your Windows as well as your Android folders at the same time in one single or two separate Sprite (self executable) files.
My tip to you: Use Sprite Backup in android with the schedule backup (at-least twice a week) of your calls & txt, as Android DO CORRUPT suddenly sometime, OH YES, (Just had a weeping friend this weekend, lost his 150+ txt, woooooohhhhh).
Keep me updated
Regards
Sid
morning sidd,
im using an 8gb class 10 sd card, i read through the post for the rom and it mentioned turning the wifi off as some people will suffer a high battery drain, i had it fully charged last night before bed and this morning its only gone down 7 % on 6 1/2 hours so thats much better, i suppose it was me messing about with it a lot more than usual plus the wifi so ill run it today and see,
ill look in to the sprite backup also, not really bothered about texts so probably wont backup it up as often as twice a week, its mainly the apps n contacts having to reinstall them all the time and more often than not loosing new ones that havent been synced.
you are right about not changing the software on the chip too, leaving it with windows so when i come to sell it will be as it should and the buyer can do with it what he/she likes, also giving the same reason as to why i put android on in the first place, so i can try it for myself and workout the next phone which is about 6 months off
Hi Craig,
According to my experience even the Class-6 was consuming the battery a bit extra than class-4, a normal Android standby MA (Milli-Amps) should be around 3-6mA then you can have a bit more than 1 whole day of battery life. (App called "Current Widget", see attached picture).
If you are worried about the apps to install in the Android than there is also an easy way of installing all your favourite apps at once rather than going one-by-one. In Mdeejay's roms there is a folder "AndroidApps" (\Android\AndroidApps), you can copy your desired APKs in there and on the first time installation Android will install all the APKs automatically for you.
About the HardChip installation side (MAGLDR), you can also revert back your Windows Rom before selling your device through any Windows Rom, but obviously there a procedure for that, and I would HARDLY suggest anyone to read & read before play.
Regards
Sid
heres my finding after a few days of use,
the desire rom mdeejay one is good but it leaves loads of apps running in the background, if from the home screen i slide down for the notifications i can see them across the top and asume from this they are still running which will use the battery faster, to close an app i use the arrow key, (in the darkstone rom i can hold that key and app killed comes up, they dont show in the notification screen)
i do like some features of HTC SENSE though, like the clock and weatjer on the main screen and the friend stream, most of the other apps i wouldnt probably use
the darkstone rom is very fast, kills apps from memory and isnt pre installed with loads of apps which makes it easier to customize as i dont have to remove all the other apps first, the only downside i can see so far is i cant get rid of the adverts, if copied the host file but they are still there even after several reboots.
the other difference in both roms compared to windows is the contact setup, in windows if i goto a contact, i can select messages and it will show me only messages from that contact, same with call logs,so while im in a specific contact the messages, emails, call logs are all related directly to that contact, i dont have to keep looking in different screens
so to conclude
option 1 i would like to run the darkstone rom with the clock and weather widget and friend stream from mdeejays rom, but would like my contacts to be like they were in windows 6.5 but no adds
option 2 would be run mdeejays rom, with the long press back arrow to kill apps and find an app for contacts like windows
if anyone has a suggestion as to how i can achieve this it will be appreciated, thanks
Ok... I have been a member for awhile, reading this and that...
I have been using WM based phones ever since i could remember (minus a small sidekick phase). So, when I found out that WM7 wasnt avail for my HD2... I was quite upset.
I decided to take the plunge and try Android for my SD card. W O W!!!!
Very fast, & functionable. I have stayed away for installing roms and such because of their instability. But this is absolutely beautiful.
Now i haven't updated to the new release that came out this morning, and was wondering if i should because i have been having some small issues.
1. When running WM6.5 since the install, i have had a problem with messages updating on main screen, don't know if it is related or not.
2. This was a fresh install of WM6.5 along with an SD card format. I am not allowed to store any info on card anymore. It's a 16g card, and I don't like to waste space. I no longer have a place for my tunes..... not cool. Not to mention can't store pics, and all the movies I burned via DVDFab.
3. Now I have read that there is a way to 'partition' my SD card, but there are so many ways to do this. I would like to do this with the best way/program so i dont fry my card. Link to the most stable way of doing this would be appreciated.
4. Now as impressed with AmeriCanAndriod as I am.. I have a question about the lockscreen... It is NOT about it's size/fullscreen as i have read on here... But when i walk away and it appearantly locks itself, it goes BLACK. the buttons on the device still light up, but screen will not activate and i have to end up pulling the battery. I have read that this is not advisable since shutting down is where the OS saves it's data to the SD card itself.
Yes, I am as green as it comes to this, but I am not a complete fool. I do try and look up issues pertaining to my problems. I can strip a PC down and rebuild it again in minutes, but phones are new to my tinkering. I love my HD2, and love all the things I have read I can do with it.
I understand that the forced close issue has been rectified in the build released this morning. Can this be confirmed????
Also will I be able to save the data.img and restore my apps and settings i have installed if I want to update to the new release?
Partitioning the SD... Will it cause me to reformat card and have to re-install Andoid on phone?
LASTLY..... Thank You to the AmeriCanAndroid Tean for making a beautiful OS that can easily be installed. Having a dual boot system is perfect for me. All the power and funtionabilty of WM & all the fun of Android. You couldn't ask for more. All the talent in this OS truly shows in this streamless, beautiful, user friendly system.
~Bdwlf2~
First off, this is not the place where to post. You should post in the builds own thread located here. Second i know that black screen happens to me as well but what i do is leave it for about 3 min on standby and its cleared up by then. Make sure to have the latest build from the thread mentioned above. And yes you will be able to keep the same data.img from the previous release unless specified. Partition yes you will format but simply drag and your Android folder to your desktop and once you're done drag it back in simple.
Thank You for the reply. I was going to post in the AmeriCanAndroid thread, but since this is my first post. I had a popup tell me I had to post HERE, instead of that thread until I reach 10 posts.
If a Moderator wishes to move this, I have no problems with that. I wanted to post where it was most relevant in the first place. I just want to be able to reply without the 'newbe' restrictions.
Relieved that I can save my things, by saving the data.img file.
Partitioning, would love a link to the best/safest method.
Blackscreen.. So I just hit a button and leave it for awhile? That's not very practical if I had a buisness call to make, or an emergency. Is there a workaround? Can I shut off the Auto Lock?
What folder do I add music, ringtones, movies and other goodies to? Can WM 7 Android share these same files? (as long as they're not OS specific obviously)
Ah, i see your reasoning, no problem. A good guide on partitioning that i used as well can be found here. And well there inst really a fix to the black screen problem and i haven't searched for one since it only happens on boot of Android. What seems to make it come back faster for me is locking and unlocking the phone quickly. And you can just place a folder and name it anything you want on the root of the SD card. Heck you can put all your mp3,photos,documents on the root of the SD card and Android will still pick them up, it doesn't matter. And when you say "Share" do you mean Bluetooth sending? Then yes, you can.
Nope... SD card will not let me install anything while i was hook to puter. I was running WM at the time, not android. That shouldn't have been a problem. I am about to hook SD card directly to copmuter itself and copy files that way.
I have had all music located on card before this install, nicely organized by artist or genre, along with my movies, pics, etc. But wont allow me to do this now. I am little confused about that, unless android locked SD/root to android application only. Since most programs that lock things usually prompt you for user allowances, which i did not see, i am ruling that out as an option. Phones and computers are very similar as i am finding out.
The blackscreen doesn't occur on Droid boot... It happens when it sleeps, hibernates, or whatever you call it. Can not wake it from this state.
The Data.img.... Do i put that in after i update and run android, or do i put it in the very begining when i copy droid folder to SD card?
Thanx
~Bdwlf2~
Yup, android put a 'write protect' on SD card. Trying some format tools now. Had to put a re-partiton on it to get rid of protection, which made it a Bad Disk. So trying a recovery on it now. I refuse to be beatin by an object smaller than my thumbnail. Arrrgh!
Android does not lock the SD card to application only, that's very odd that you cant copy files to the SD card. Maybe its a setting on your computer that wont allow you? And about the black screen problem, there seems to be no one reporting about that on the thread as far i can see. Are you running SetCPU or a Task Killer by any chance? Those make Android behave very odd. If not i would suggest downloading the latest build again and formatting your SD Card and putting Android on it again. You can also move your stuff your desktop and put it back again. About the Data.img, you don't really need to move it anywhere. When there is a new update to the build, i simply extract the contents of the new build to the Android folder on my SD card and over write. Simplest method I've seen yet.
bdwlf2 said:
Yup, android put a 'write protect' on SD card. Trying some format tools now. Had to put a re-partiton on it to get rid of protection, which made it a Bad Disk. So trying a recovery on it now. I refuse to be beatin by an object smaller than my thumbnail. Arrrgh!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That seems very odd. I've been using this build since February 24th and it has never locked up like that. But nonetheless you found a fix, good work.
No, not running any of those programs. I have extensively swapped data with this card numerous times.
I checked all setting in android prior to putting into puter. In therory, android should NOT write protect the disk, but something did. I have read this happening to others just in XDA forums alone.
Just got disk back to the "good" state using MiniTool Power Data Recovery... Let's take a peek as to see if it works correctly now.
Hmmmm... I think I should have used, repair damage partiton after recovery... still not working.
***scratches head***
I may need another cup of coffee for this.
How about a simple reformat?
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App
Nope. Tried that.
Windows formatter - no
SD formatter - no
Mini tool -nada
MyDefrag - not
Test disk - running now... pending
Try to reformat the SD from Windows Mobile?
Yup, first option....
Would go partially thru it, then stop. Worked fine yesterday. This starting to become un-nerving.
I will find a way. There is always a way. Unless something shorts/melts/breaks/ or fry's... there is always a way. Just a matter of correct knowedge and tool combination.
bdwlf2 said:
Yup, first option....
Would go partially thru it, then stop. Worked fine yesterday. This starting to become un-nerving.
I will find a way. There is always a way. Unless something shorts/melts/breaks/ or fry's... there is always a way. Just a matter of correct knowedge and tool combination.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Alright good luck.
Trying HDD Regenerator v2011
Seems to be doing something, using limited Demo mode. At least it is identifying the bad sectors.
This one is gonna take awhile. If it works, or i find something that does, I will post. I've read other's have had this problem, and I can save the person buying/tossing out cards.... Then the work is worth it.
57min into it and only scanned 11mb????? This may be a month to scan 16g. If my math is correct. That's 1gig (1000mb) / 11per hour = 90.90hrs to complete 1g of scanning, multiplied by 15 (usable gigs) = 1363.6363hrs or 51.81 days? 51 days to complete scan?!?!?!?! Gonna look for another program. Wow.
Good thing I have a small 2g card. Unfortunately it won't hold 1/2 of my music. Argh, and I just put a 2 HD movies on there.
If you want to partition or format your SD you HAVE to be in Windows Mobile.
Also, if you are repartitioning your SD, I recommend you recreate your data.img or else it will have issues.
I tried to format in WM... Fail. All the files reappeared.
I did notice .android_secure file. That wasn't there before.
I have unmounted, seems like it is remounting itself. I even unmounted and yanked battery immediately. No success.
Yes, Android still boots.... Something in there is locking card. If card was bad, Android would obviously not be booting.
I cant add or remove data from that card. I have tried several programs.
**** Edit****
Please Do Not ask if switch on adapted is locked, I have two adapters, both UNLOCKED... For some reason, my "Spidey Senses" are telling me that I am about to be asked that question. Being asked this will only cause me to "sigh" loudly before i bang my head on desk. Which will still leave me with locked card and now a fresh migrane.
Ok i am new to Android i just traded my iPhone 3G for a HD2. I spent around 3 or 4 hours trying to get it running the way i like. After many errors i am on NexusHD2-Gingerbread_V2.9_NAND_(Android-2.3.5) and i am very happy. So now i need some help and yes i did look around before i am asking this. I read on a forum that i could install my apps onto my memory card and not into the phone is this true for the OS i am running now. And also i wanted to know if there is any apps i may need to make my phone run better even some cool apps i make need just to be happy/
hi razielleonhart, I believe you're referring the to the ext-sd function. To do that you'll have to repartition your SD card. You can do that in CMR (I believe you are booting form NAND?). Normally just choose a ext partition size and set the SWAP memory to 0 (I'm not sure what the SWAP is for, but I think it's to compensate your RAM if your RAM runs out of space, but that's unlikely on the HD2). When you boot back into Android you will notice that your "internal" memory has increased. Not all ROMs support this, and you'll have to check the thread on the particular ROM to see if the developer has cooked his ROM for that.
And you might want to check out some cool (but sometimes slightly hazardous apps) like SD booster (sets a new cache size on your SD card to make it run faster, just search the market) or SetCPU (allows you to overclock/underclock your phone's CPU, see link at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419).
So suddenly I got the new market and with it like thousand of updates.
Problem is now I'm constantly running on low phone space.
All apps left that can not be moved to the SD-Card are a must have.
So deleting them is not an option
Except the ones that I can not uninstall (like Google Books) guess because they came preinstalled.
I can't even install some new apps as they require more space then I obviously have.
What are my options?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670087
Move apps to SD (non-root and no apps required on phone)
I just did this yesterday with my Nexus One...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001202
Read the FAQ, question 9.
I can not do this as I run a stock rom I think.
SocalVisor said:
I just did this yesterday with my Nexus One...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001202
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
DarsVaeda said:
I can not do this as I run a stock rom I think.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you read?
From what I can tell, you do not need root to do this, just a working ADB connection. No additional on-phone software is required.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Given your parameters, only solution is to partition your SD card, create an ext-flavored filesystem on one of the partitions, and run one of the available software solutions (referenced in the links above) to permit saving of ALL apps and app data (and dalvik cache) on the SD card.
If you do that, cheers to you, but do some critical thinking and research before buying into the Class 10 hype. Most benchmarks have shown that the bottleneck in the N1 SD read/write speed is not the speed of the card, but rather the combination of software and hardware that handles SD card input and output. In fact, on some benchmarks, Class 4 cards perform as well as Class 6 and Class 10, and in some, Class 10 cards underperform Class 4 (which may have to do with the different standards applicable to Class 10 versus 2,4, and 6...the older cards had to meet a certain minimum read/write speed on a fragmented card for a single large file transfer; for Class 10 the specification is sequential writes on a defragmented SD card -- if you ask me both specifications are insufficient...how about a spec that tests sequential operations on a fragmented card?).
Or, alternately, consider removing some apps. Unless you are a developer, I can't see that you "need" to have more apps than the admittedly meager flash allocation can handle. You may want them, and want them very badly, but I've always found that a self-critical distinction between needs and wants makes me happiest in the long run, because it's easy to ignore wants. If this doesn't work for you, look above. Whatever floats your submarine, man.
I never had any problems with the sd-card performance.
Doesn't matter anyway as my problem is that there are 9gigs of free space on the card but I fear I will soon run into the problem of being unable to install any more apps (even to the card) as the phone space is too low.
This actually happens already now when updating apps.
Unfortunatly I did not manage to get the adb thing working yet so I can not test SocialVisors solution.
I'm unrooted as well, and have this problem as well. I'm hoping the nexus prime hits soon enough (and on tmo).
Otherwise, I'll look into rooting (which I'd rather do, if I'm going to modify, I'll go all in), I think one of the benefits is being able to uninstall unwanted stock apps and keep them off. So like the amazon mp3 store, for instance.
Okay so I now managed to get ADB working.
I could move some heavy apps like swype. I could not move "Astrid Tasks" as then the widget does not work anymore. Hopefully that is the only app.
I am now back at 30MB free space.
But still there are some hughe apps, like Google Maps(11MB), that can not be moved at all.
And yes, Google Maps is a must have!
Did you read the FAQ?
Did you read rallyemax's answer, and put attention to the first paragraph?
Are you looking for a solution, or do you just want to complain?
tkirton said:
How to install:
NOTE: ROMS THAT ARE ORM (ORIGINAL ROM FROM MANUFACTURER...ALSO KNOWN AS STOCK ROMS) WILL NOT RUN ANY VERSION OF APPS2SD EXCEPT FROYO.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I alread said I run a stock rom (not froyo).
The only one who is complaining is you.
You can just ignore this thread if you don't like it.
But thanks to everyone so far.
In that case, it's simple: you can't do a thing.
Your 2 options are:
1) Run a custom kernel over your stock ROM, or a custom ROM, and install A2SD support. Need to root / unlock the bootloader / hack the bootloader, of course.
2) Do nothing and don't look for solutions that don't exist, just accept the fact that you're stuck with less internal storage that you wanted.
No third option.
Hey there,
i updated my HD 2 (europe) from 2.3 to 4.x version of android because i had crackling sound and gaps with the old musicplayer and i like the new swipe keyboard. Now with JB or ICS its fine but i have many other problems. It doenst matter wich version of android 4.x i install, they are all very laggy or unstable. Some of them wont even start some times. I tried NAND and NATIVE SD (Class 10 Sandisk ultra 16 GB) installations with magldr and CLK... The probably stablest version i found for me is ZeJesters PAC on Native SD but this is very slow too and i can't start my most important apps "DB Navigator" or "Öffi" (ppl from germany will know them ) because they crash instantly . Is there anything that could be wrong with my phone so 4.x android roms wont run like they should? At first i thought it is just this or that rom that doesn't work but i can barley find a "stable" version at all... Now i'm pretty clueless... Some Ideas anyone? I realy like the new features of 4.x and dont want to go back :silly:
Untraced said:
Hey there,
i updated my HD 2 (europe) from 2.3 to 4.x version of android because i had crackling sound and gaps with the old musicplayer and i like the new swipe keyboard. Now with JB or ICS its fine but i have many other problems. It doenst matter wich version of android 4.x i install, they are all very laggy or unstable. Some of them wont even start some times. I tried NAND and NATIVE SD (Class 10 Sandisk ultra 16 GB) installations with magldr and CLK... The probably stablest version i found for me is ZeJesters PAC on Native SD but this is very slow too and i can't start my most important apps "DB Navigator" or "Öffi" (ppl from germany will know them ) because they crash instantly . Is there anything that could be wrong with my phone so 4.x android roms wont run like they should? At first i thought it is just this or that rom that doesn't work but i can barley find a "stable" version at all... Now i'm pretty clueless... Some Ideas anyone? I realy like the new features of 4.x and dont want to go back :silly:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You might want to try using a DataOnEXT installation with a large system partition. You will have to read more on fine tuning, like min free, buffers, disabling unnecessary auto starts, etc. I trust you realize that your card is not functioning as an ultra card, yes?
---
If you have a 50% chance of being right, you will be wrong 90% of the time...
Thank you for your response...So you'r telling me i should install system on nand and data on ext right? i will give it a try later but what do you mean the card does not function as "ultra"? Just bought it because of its class 10 and 16 gb... i tought ultra is just the name of it
I dont realy get why the different roms run that more or less good at different devices of the same type... why do some have to tweak and some dont?
Untraced said:
Thank you for your response...So you'r telling me i should install system on nand and data on ext right? i will give it a try later but what do you mean the card does not function as "ultra"? Just bought it because of its class 10 and 16 gb... i tought ultra is just the name of it
I dont realy get why the different roms run that more or less good at different devices of the same type... why do some have to tweak and some dont?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Mobile Ultra (grey/red card) is a UHS I card (faster than Class 10) which falls back to Class 10 if needed. The HD2 cannot supply the required voltage to the card bus to enable (turn on) the UHS I transfer rates. If you want more details look for the heading "DEFINING BASIC CARD SPEED" in post 1 of this thread.
NYLimited said:
The Mobile Ultra (grey/red card) is a UHS I card (faster than Class 10) which falls back to Class 10 if needed. The HD2 cannot supply the required voltage to the card bus to enable (turn on) the UHS I transfer rates. If you want more details look for the heading "DEFINING BASIC CARD SPEED" in post 1 of this thread.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, I never included the link... The "this thread" should have been a link, my apologies. The thread I mentioned is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1947560
No Problem at all
But do you think the not functionality of some apps is caused by for example wrong system partition size?
Untraced said:
No Problem at all
But do you think the not functionality of some apps is caused by for example wrong system partition size?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is a more difficult question. There are many, many possible reasons for lag and fc. Tell me a lot more about your setup (bootloader, partition sizes, what exactly are you seeing)
A system partition that is too small can create strange problems. Bad blocks in NAND. can be even more a problem if the system partition is not big enough. So, yes, odd things can result from that.
Lags when starting apps is more related to memory. With the HD2, unlike some newer phones, memory runs short easily, especially when lots of apps run on startup. Loading a big app can take 5-30 seconds depending on what the device was doing. Much of this can be significantly improved (though never totally eliminated) by more aggressive memory management. Search the thread I pointed you to for "min free" or "aggressive" and you should find settings to improve the lag. The information should be in the first 3 posts somewhere.
---
If you have a 50% chance of being right, you will be wrong 90% of the time...