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Skype Mobile apk on T-Mo?

Is there any chance the Skype mobile apk file could be modified to work on T-Mo network?
Of course this thread might get the easy answers such as:
1) "No"
2) "It cant be done"
3) "It checks verizon's network?"
... but I'd be happier to hear from experts that know how it actually works/could be done.
Verizon skype apk: http://www.sendspace.com/file/rnwab1

No. It cant be done. It checks verizon's network.

Ok, helpful now... There's no need for Skype mobile.
Using it to call normal phone numbers uses minutes. The only free part is using it to call other Skype numbers. And you can already use Fring or Sipdroid from the Market to do this (AND do VoIP calls to normal numbers), so the Skype mobile app for Verizon is pretty much just crap.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/25/skype-mobile-for-verizon-on-android-hands-on-with-wifi-off

Paul22000 said:
No. It cant be done. It checks verizon's network.
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LoL You Suck!!!
Always great to hear from ya though Paul

ap3604 said:
LoL You Suck!!!
Always great to hear from ya though Paul
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: P
Check out my second post (we posted at same time)
This might also help: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=264ef8ddf7c82bcc&hl=en

Paul22000 said:
Ok, helpful now... There's no need for Skype mobile.
Using it to call normal phone numbers uses minutes. The only free part is using it to call other Skype numbers. And you can already use Fring or Sipdroid from the Market to do this (AND do VoIP calls to normal numbers), so the Skype mobile app for Verizon is pretty much just crap.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/25/skype-mobile-for-verizon-on-android-hands-on-with-wifi-off
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Yeah your right it is pretty crappy that Skype put those restrictions on it by sleeping with the enemy (Big Red).
I was just going to see if it could work on T-Mo though because then I could get my family members to use it as well and make good quality voip calls like I could on the iPhone version.
SIPdroid is dear to my heart but the quality on outbound calls is pretty unusable for me, inbound is still good though. I tell all my friends that "if you get a call from me, dont pick up and just call me back."
Fring 3g quality was serviceable before but it was laggy (I would say something and the other person would start talking and then mid sentence would hear what I said and it would mess up the conversation). It probably has had some updates though so I will try it out again.

dunno if this helps but i read somewhere today that vonage is coming to tmobile and att with calls over wifi capability.

3 has got this for a long time now (no Android client yet) but the acctual calling is routed using a gsm center, no VOIP at all. I have installed the apk for t-mobile and it almost does the same thing ( it doesn't work outside tm network)

superg81 said:
dunno if this helps but i read somewhere today that vonage is coming to tmobile and att with calls over wifi capability.
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http://gizmodo.com/5513904/vonage-voip-apps-now-available-for-t+mobile-and-att-android-phones
Just checked the Market. Vonage is there.
It looks like free USA calls, but only over wifi.
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[Edit]: I'm reading the app comments and I don't understand, people are saying $5 pay as you go, etc.
So maybe you have to pay $5 a month for "free" wifi calls. I don't get it. Anyone tried it yet?

http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.vonage.andrd/
Read the comments here ^.
Is it really free over wifi?
Seems like false advertising.
[Edit]: Just signed up for Vonage -- it DOES work if you sign up using your Google Voice number, hahaha!

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http://gizmodo.com/5513904/vonage-voip-apps-now-available-for-t+mobile-and-att-android-phones
Just checked the Market. Vonage is there.
It looks like free USA calls, but only over wifi.
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[Edit]: I'm reading the app comments and I don't understand, people are saying $5 pay as you go, etc.
So maybe you have to pay $5 a month for "free" wifi calls. I don't get it. Anyone tried it yet?
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Thanks for the info you guys! I've made 3 calls over WiFi with Vonage app and the customer service reps say I sound crystal clear
Now for the real challenge boys... Since Vonage can make free domestic calls over wifi. How do we trick the N1, like on jailbroken iPhone's, into thinking its on wifi even if its on 3g?
Edit: The wifi calling is 100% free, dont add any money even if the app asks you for it (just press the back button to get rid of the prompt)

ap3604 said:
Thanks for the info you guys! I've made 3 calls over WiFi with Vonage app and the customer service reps say I sound crystal clear
Now for the real challenge boys... Since Vonage can make free domestic calls over wifi. How do we trick the N1, like on jailbroken iPhone's, into thinking its on wifi even if its on 3g?
Edit: The wifi calling is 100% free, dont add any money even if the app asks you for it (just press the back button to get rid of the prompt)
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How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?

Paul22000 said:
How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?
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Just disable the phones radio via the INFO screen(Dial *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Information ->)..

Paul22000 said:
http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.vonage.andrd/
Read the comments here ^.
Is it really free over wifi?
Seems like false advertising.
[Edit]: Just signed up for Vonage -- it DOES work if you sign up using your Google Voice number, hahaha!
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so does that mean I won't have to pay a monthly bill? I can just basically, use my google voice number through wifi?

ram130 said:
Just disable the phones radio via the INFO screen(Dial *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone Information ->)..
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@ap3604 or ram130, what do you have set for Google Voice settings to get vonage working on Wifi?
Use Google Voice for all calls / no calls / ask each time?

Paul22000 said:
What do you have set for Google Voice settings?
Use for all calls / no calls / ask each time?
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ask only for international calls. I have not setup vonage yet, gonna do it now and see what is possible. I'll update ya in a few.

Paul22000 said:
How do you KNOW it was making calls over wifi?
I just signed up and installed it, and no matter what I do, it always calls from my normal phone number, rather than my Google Voice number, which is what I chose during the sign up process.
Also, turning Airplane mode on and then turning Wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. It says disable airplane mode.
Is there a way to KNOW 100% whether the call is being routed over wifi or normal phone?
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On my end I can guarantee that its making the calls through WiFi because of the data only plan I am on. T-Mo has two different types of $40/mo data plans:
1) $40/mo with T-mo hotspot access but cannot make ANY calls (except 911)
2) $40/mo without T-mo hotspot access but can make calls for $.10/min
I have the first option and if I try to make a regular call it says "the service you are attempting to use has been restricted or unavailable" and hangs up. Even if I try to make a call through GVoice it says the same thing so I know I cant make any cellular calls. But I can make a call through the Vonage app with WiFi (although I do have to have on Edge/3g with the WiFi your right).
I just checked my T-Mobile account as well and I dont see any minutes used either.
Now if only we can get this thing to think its on WiFi even if only on 3g!

Paul22000 said:
@ap3604 or ram130, what do you have set for Google Voice settings to get vonage working on Wifi?
Use Google Voice for all calls / no calls / ask each time?
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I set Google Voice to "Do not use Google Voice to make any calls" to make sure it was only Vonage making the calls.
I'm tellin you guys this app works great on the free WiFi calls Just gotta hack the N1 for tricking it into thinking its on WiFi even while on 3g.
Lemme know if you guys have any trouble setting up the Vonage account to test...

ap3604 said:
I set Google Voice to "Do not use Google Voice to make any calls" to make sure it was only Vonage making the calls.
I'm tellin you guys this app works great on the free WiFi calls Just gotta hack the N1 for tricking it into thinking its on WiFi even while on 3g.
Lemme know if you guys have any trouble setting up the Vonage account to test...
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When I set GV to not call intercept, it will just call using my normal phone number. Vonage just sits there doing nothing.
A few times the Vonage dialer has popped up (if I had GV set to make ALL calls), but then Vonage crashed (Force Close).
Bleh, must be an issue with the Desire caller =\

Fring is flawless with skype dumb easy to setup for idiots like myself
I use it w/o a simcard in my g1 and keep my sim in the n1
I tried this vonage doesn't seem to work with the sim card out or in...if any one can post the correct steps to make domestic calls over wifi on the vonage app please(w/o a sim card it the only sure way to know its using wifi only)

WiFi calling tmous

Hi all, just wanted to know if any of the android builds or winmo roms allow WiFi calling, because I get no service in my house in nyc..Ty all
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BUMP. Cannot get any service within my college dorm either (yet outside, there are 5 bars and no network connectivity issues). I've been reading up on T-mobile wireless frequencies and their inability to effectively penetrate walls and other surfaces.
Here is the forum post from the Nexus boards (unfortunately a bit above my technological knowledge).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807116
Apparently to get wifi calling working, kernel-deep implementation must be applied before the app is even installed.

Google voice, although I believe you have to use a different number. On the plus side you can use gvoice over 3g as well
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dung8604 said:
Google voice, although I believe you have to use a different number. On the plus side you can use gvoice over 3g as well
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Calls with GV android still go out over a standard cellular network so therefore this doesn't work in the case where you have no network access. An alternative is to use a SIP service in combination with GV which is terribly unreliable (I can speak from experience of using a variety of SIP services, et.al) and also uses a different telephone number which isn't ideal in my case. Thank you for the suggestion though.

gus_chi said:
Calls with GV android still go out over a standard cellular network so therefore this doesn't work in the case where you have no network access. An alternative is to use a SIP service in combination with GV which is terribly unreliable (I can speak from experience of using a variety of SIP services, et.al) and also uses a different telephone number which isn't ideal in my case. Thank you for the suggestion though.
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LOL, are we at the same school? No signal whatsoever when I was in my freshman dorm... Damn the walls were thick!
I had a backberry back then, which supports Wifi calling.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774672
looks like cmyxlgo has it going in this thread (link above). do you know if this still takes minutes from your plan.
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smartphonedummy said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774672
looks like cmyxlgo has it going in this thread (link above). do you know if this still takes minutes from your plan.
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Unfortunately yes it does take away from your minutes. T-Mobile decided to get rid of the '$20 unlimited wifi calling package' in exchange for the new UMA service. Its primary purpose now is to provide service where there isn't any and/or to allow customers traveling internationally to make phone calls using their plan minutes over wifi--completely avoiding the need for an overseas phone/plan.

gus_chi said:
Unfortunately yes it does take away from your minutes. T-Mobile decided to get rid of the '$20 unlimited wifi calling package' in exchange for the new UMA service. Its primary purpose now is to provide service where there isn't any and/or to allow customers traveling internationally to make phone calls using their plan minutes over wifi--completely avoiding the need for an overseas phone/plan.
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thanks, that is what i was afraid of. they also got rid of "my Faves", which eliminated free calling with google voice. has anyone had any luck with fring ?

gus_chi said:
Unfortunately yes it does take away from your minutes. T-Mobile decided to get rid of the '$20 unlimited wifi calling package' in exchange for the new UMA service. Its primary purpose now is to provide service where there isn't any and/or to allow customers traveling internationally to make phone calls using their plan minutes over wifi--completely avoiding the need for an overseas phone/plan.
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So, if you travel internationaly you're not charged roaming if you use your phone over wifi calling?. You just use your plan minutes as if they were domestic?

roycio said:
So, if you travel internationaly you're not charged roaming if you use your phone over wifi calling?. You just use your plan minutes as if they were domestic?
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WIFI Calling takes your call from anywhere in the world and routes it back to the states as if you were next to a T-Mobile tower. This doesn't mean that you can call a number that would be classified as roaming at no cost. For example, if you are in a London hotel and connect your phone via wifi to call a local London restaurant for reservations, this would be considered an international phone call. However, if you just call your friends and family with their US based area codes, you would just be using your minutes.
Source:
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/06/t-mobile-androids-getting-wi-fi-calling/

gus_chi said:
WIFI Calling takes your call from anywhere in the world and routes it back to the states as if you were next to a T-Mobile tower. This doesn't mean that you can call a number that would be classified as roaming at no cost. For example, if you are in a London hotel and connect your phone via wifi to call a local London restaurant for reservations, this would be considered an international phone call. However, if you just call your friends and family with their US based area codes, you would just be using your minutes.
Source:
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/06/t-mobile-androids-getting-wi-fi-calling/
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Understood, thank you. Do you know if the sms work the same way or is only for voice?

roycio said:
Understood, thank you. Do you know if the sms work the same way or is only for voice?
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Yeah SMS works the same way. I really wish I could get this to work for me as well. But Wifi calling doesn't work on the newest HD2 Android builds.

Has anybody been able to get WIFI calling to work on TMOUS, NAND?

Doesn't seem that the Devs really care about this. It's hard to even find any info. I wish this could be done as Then I could replace my wife's blackberry with UMA with my Spare HD2.

I see one dev who seems to care. Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=927671
Notice where it says:
Coming Soon:
Kineto GAN interface(based on CM kernel style to help work on T-Mo US Wifi Calling)
Kineto is the company that created an app that can do wifi calling for certain android phones and the app was (I think) successfully ported to the Nexus One. It doesn't do cell tower to wifi handoffs because that is apparently a chip-based feature and this is purely a software solution.

dublus said:
I see one dev who seems to care. Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=927671
Notice where it says:
Coming Soon:
Kineto GAN interface(based on CM kernel style to help work on T-Mo US Wifi Calling)
Kineto is the company that created an app that can do wifi calling for certain android phones and the app was (I think) successfully ported to the Nexus One. It doesn't do cell tower to wifi handoffs because that is apparently a chip-based feature and this is purely a software solution.
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Yep. One of the smartest user comments all day
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International Use

Hi. I tried searching the forum and didn't see anything. Has anyone traveled with their phone out of the US? Does it work internationally? Can I just use the wifi setting and still use my phone while traveling?
Thanks!

missaye said:
Hi. I tried searching the forum and didn't see anything. Has anyone traveled with their phone out of the US? Does it work internationally? Can I just use the wifi setting and still use my phone while traveling?
Thanks!
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With wifi, google voice, sipdroid, and goggle voice callback... There is a forum post explaining how to set it up.. Basically turns your phone into a wifi phone... Not sure if you will be charged for goggle voice outside america using the setup though.
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missaye said:
Hi. I tried searching the forum and didn't see anything. Has anyone traveled with their phone out of the US? Does it work internationally? Can I just use the wifi setting and still use my phone while traveling?
Thanks!
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apart from the voip/wifi option outlined earlier, vzw apparently has international cdma roaming agreements for voice in over 40 countries... Mostly americas, asia and pac rim but not in europe. I've used a vzw phone in mexico from time to time, but cdma networks are still relatively rare outside the usa (but there's more out there than I thought).
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missaye said:
Hi. I tried searching the forum and didn't see anything. Has anyone traveled with their phone out of the US? Does it work internationally? Can I just use the wifi setting and still use my phone while traveling?
Thanks!
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My fascinate went to montreal with me last year and worked fine. Had to get my data plan switched to an international one (i think it was about $65 instead of 30), but the rep I talked to said there was nothing they could do for voice or text. So, I had to pay per minute and text while I was there. Luckily it was travel for work, so they covered the extra expense while I was there
Google voice was still free in canada (it should still be I think?), so I used my laptop a lot to make calls in the evenings.
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missaye said:
Hi. I tried searching the forum and didn't see anything. Has anyone traveled with their phone out of the US? Does it work internationally? Can I just use the wifi setting and still use my phone while traveling?
Thanks!
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I don't have enough posts to enable links, but here is Verizon's website that shows CDMA roaming rates for voice and text:
b2b.vzw.com/international/Roaming/rates_coverage.html
Copy and paste the link directly into your address bar. Do not add www to the beginning.

Here is the link for roaming data rates:
b2b.vzw.com/international/GlobalData/rates_coverage.html

thanks all. I didn't want to pay for the international plan since I'm only gone for 2.5 weeks. I'm hoping to use google voice over wifi and whatever else I can get working. I'm not sure how skype works over wifi, but I'm under the assumption that as long as I'm on wifi and not over the network, it shouldn't cost me anything, correct?

missaye said:
thanks all. I didn't want to pay for the international plan since I'm only gone for 2.5 weeks. I'm hoping to use google voice over wifi and whatever else I can get working. I'm not sure how skype works over wifi, but I'm under the assumption that as long as I'm on wifi and not over the network, it shouldn't cost me anything, correct?
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A similar question was asked on the Skype forums, and here was the answer supplied by one of the staff:
Your fascinate is using Skype Mobile for Verizon and your iPhone is using Skype for iOS. Skype Mobile uses cell minutes to connect calls and can not be used to place calls to US landlines or cell phones as this will be charged by verizon.
If you fascinate has Android 2.2 you could put Skype for Android on this and it would work almost the same way as the iPhone except it cant use 3G
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The direct link to the topic is here. Sorry, but I still can not embed links:
forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=799555&st=0&p=3335973&#entry3335973

[Q] Calling from N7?

Hi, I know there are many Tablet SMS applications, but I want to know is there a way to make calls from your N7?
Preferably using my normal contract phone number, so people know its me.
Im sure I've seen it somewhere on the web on a video I saw, but havent a clue what it was called.
Im from the UK so no US only apps please.
Much appreciated.

You mean by Sim or by Wifi? If sim, impossible.
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zlewe said:
You mean by Sim or by Wifi? If sim, impossible.
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No I mean a little bit like TabletTalk, where it connects to your phone for example.
I don't mind whether its VoIP or whatever, I just want to be able to make a call from my Nexus7, that uses my phones number.
IVE SEEN IT on a Video which makes it even more annoying.

Wilks3y said:
No I mean a little bit like TabletTalk, where it connects to your phone for example.
I don't mind whether its VoIP or whatever, I just want to be able to make a call from my Nexus7, that uses my phones number.
IVE SEEN IT on a Video which makes it even more annoying.
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Tablet talk will allow you to answer calls as well you just need a bluetooth headset connected to your actual phone, it works in the same sense as the sms you phone is still the one connecting you are just controlling your phone with the N7

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Tablet talk will allow you to answer calls as well you just need a bluetooth headset connected to your actual phone, it works in the same sense as the sms you phone is still the one connecting you are just controlling your phone with the N7
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Thanks for your reply mate,
On the Video I saw it was using some sort of VoIP and used the N7's mic, no bluetooth mic needed.
I know that the connection goes through the phone which is fine, as how else would it get the number etc, but I don't want to buy a bluetooth headset.
It may have been GrooveIP but I think thats US only any UK alternatives?
THANKS !
EDIT - It was GrooveIP, what is the difference between GrooveIP and tablet talk?
As tablet talk is made by an XDA user and would love to support them rather than a company.

I've used groove IP on my phone and it does work in Canada but the sound can be glitchy. You have to sign in through Google to set it up, haven't tried it on nexus though.
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Can any1 provide a UK alternate to Groove?
Why is it US only?

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It is possible to call from SIM if you have a N7 with 3G.
Some Internet providers have also an Internet+Voice option that you can enable. With a specific rom or application that can pop dialer I am pretty sure that you can make calls with your Internet/Voice SIM. I didn't activate the option but I did activate an Internet + Messages option and sending / receiving them work like a charm. I'm pretty sure with a Voice subscription you can do that too, but do keep in mind, if you have a SIM slot.

Wilks3y said:
Can any1 provide a UK alternate to Groove?
Why is it US only?
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It is US only because of the laws that GrooveIP must follow. It is the same reason Google Voice is so hard to deal with, because Google provides it for free but has to dodge some laws here and there. Google may require payment after 2013 (they have secure 2013 as free, though).

Whose up for enabling WiFi Calling?

Sprint released an update yesterday for their S5's which enables WiFi calling. That got me thinking and after poking around in settings.db to see if the toggle existed in our notification panel, i found it is - "WifiCalling". Im wondering if anyone is up to digging into the code of the Sprint phone and seeing if it could be modified to work on the VZW.
Forgive the improper use of "Whose" in the title, it should be "Who's"

ArmedCitySlicker said:
Sprint released an update yesterday for their S5's which enables WiFi calling. That got me thinking and after poking around in settings.db to see if the toggle existed in our notification panel, i found it is - "WifiCalling". Im wondering if anyone is up to digging into the code of the Sprint phone and seeing if it could be modified to work on the VZW.
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im sure those without unlimited minutes might benefit from this
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I know I'd benefit. I still have old plan with unlimited data. I don't talk on the phone much, but I'd still like to have it
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I have a feeling some of this will be server-side reliant and we won't be able to use it until Verizon says so.

Is this the same as ASOP VoIP account in dialer?
Id like to to add my SIP account to my phone, which is in stock CM11 Dialer

elliwigy said:
im sure those without unlimited minutes might benefit from this.
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Those who find themselves in areas with weak cellular reception would as well.
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I have a feeling some of this will be server-side reliant and we won't be able to use it until Verizon says so.
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Correct. WiFi calling isn't something we could simply activate on our phones. Verizon has to support it in order for the calls/texts to be properly routed, and as far as I know they don't (outside of using a network extender).

The Verizon messages app supports texts over wifi so this feature must already be partially enabled
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joshua.justice said:
The Verizon messages app supports texts over wifi so this feature must already be partially enabled
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I use Google Voice, paired with a free pbxes.org account and Sipdroid on my phone. Calls work just fine this way using my google voice line. Incoming and outgoing. It's like having a second line that just uses data. Sipdroid allows me to specify usage by placing a + in front of the phone number. This prevents me from needing to switch back and forth between default dialers or wait for it to prompt me, which messes up handsfree calling in the car.